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House of the Dragon 2x04 Full Reaction! (Patreon)

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Thomas Corp

Well, shit. Before I even click on the video, Jess, I see the thumbnail which tells me you and everyone from the sound of it is more upset than I upon completing this episode. On the other hand, last I heard, my brother and sister in-law haven’t gotten to this yet. More on the specifics on that momentarily. It kicked up a notch this week on House of the Messy. You ask did you mention that you were nervous, once or twice, yes. Start by talking about Daemon at Castle Hill House having cave of Dagobah visions. I understand your position of not particularly caring for vision/dream scenes to expand on things that could be readily apparent, yet here it is quite well utilized as it is most enjoyable seeing the prince squirm. Especially, when the vision of his niece calls out one of my consistent thoughts over the last two years, which is that much though I have my issues with Rhaenyra, a lot of how she is all Daemon’s fault. And he knows it as evidenced by his uncouth decapitation of his niece. That scene and when he sees his late wife, I’m having the thought, “Verna around?” He really should accept what he is: A fallen soul. Sadly, little Simon this episode, though it does get balanced out by the brief appearance of Ser Fucketh Around And Find Out, liked your reaction to him, and a proper introduction to Miss Mystery Woman. I’m living for her too especially when with her sharp owl eyes observes and calls out Daemon for hiding from his niece and shirking his princely duties. I share loving the tension with the Targaryen brothers. It is most enjoyable how the council largely puts up with Aegon, and when he leaves, they have an “Oh, no. Anyway.” type of response leading to a shared laugh. Aegon carrying on about how nobody takes him seriously. It is a most familiar scene: A boy complains because he thinks the world is unfair. He cries to his mother when the toy breaks or the knee is skinned. A man knows better. The things that happen, happen. Who lives, who dies. You don’t yell at the boulder for being a rock. And indeed, in perhaps my favorite scene of the episode, he gets ZERO sympathy from Alicent who took her son to the barbecue and roasted his ass whilst having such pure and strong Angela Lansbury energy, with a light sprinkling of Al Pacino. Olivia, Olivia, Olivia, as you say, Jess. Olivia dominates so thoroughly with the eclectic range of emotions as Alicent spirals, but she keeps it all inside. I concur that Olivia does such a wonderful job that it makes a man ask: Why does she not have all the major awards for this show? And with it, the hope that it is a problem that will be rectified sooner rather than later. Another highlight was Alicent expressing how whatever intentions were, it is now irrelevant as from now on, she and Rhaenyra are enemies. Contrast to Rhaenyra who has deluded herself and is set on it being their destiny to sit on the throne. Or so the prophecy says. “A prophecy that misread could have been.” Of course, the resolution of that in the parent show, like I said, was not even one of the less than a handful of grievances with the last season of Game of Thrones, and I like the idea that was mentioned here last week how the potentially misread prophecy is part of the tragedy of errors that is the whole mess in this show. We’ll see how it goes. The big talking point is the dance of dragons. For all his faults, Aegon did show relatively little fear as he fought with nothing held back. Admirable, but mistaken. Just as it would have been a mistake for Rhaenyra to fly into the fray as you detailed. Addressing Sunfyre and how you asked if we’ve seen them before. Well, I think we’ve seen them once before. A hell of a jolt when Big Mama entered the chat. And leaving it to us to decide who you referred to. I assume Aemond as Vhagar is Gargantuan Grandma Dragon. That is her name. Horrifying to see him rain fire on his brother. Now to Rhaenys. I confess I’m more saddened to lose Eve than her character. I suppose my heart’s that cold and blackened and dead. Your reaction to her scenes and her death were striking. You say she’d have made a good hand makes me question who the hand for Team Black would be. Rhaenys’s final scene was immensely well done. A most tragic touch upon seeing the expression Rhaenys has before death claims her is that in the midst of making peace with how her life is going to end, she is taking some succor and comfort in the knowledge that soon she will be reunited with her daughter and son. And so, Rhaenys dies in the Targaryen fashion: Flammis acribus addictis. She is, of course, not the first, and history tells us she will certainly not be the last. And there is concern for Aegon. You kept asking is Aegon dead, and you ask us not to answer, which I am not. I am neither confirming nor denying either way. What I am saying is that you say that and I’m such a nerd that I got the Bring Out Yer Dead scene from Holy Grail stuck in my head, then the musical number from Spamalot. I also quipped upon seeing Aemond surveying the scene, “Aemond, we need to talk to you about that. You should find yourself a safehouse or a relative, close-by; lay low for a while, because you’re probably wanted for attempted fratricide. Though on the other hand, seeing as there are no witnesses, you can spin it far easier than Daemon can what with his sanctioning the murder of your baby nephew.” Regardless of if Aegon lives or dies, there is now the small vacuum and Criston is contending with the idea he has to report, “Aegon and Sunfyre felled in the battle of Rook’s Rest, film at eleven.” to Alicent when he gets back, or relayed through raven, which is where we end this episode after two Return of the King style fakeouts. Anyhoo. Once again, your reaction was beyond exceptional, Jess, your post episode thoughts and observations, likewise. I appreciated all of it, thank you so much.

Ryan

I first started getting excited upon seeing veteran Game of Thrones (among several other prestige TV shows, and Sex and the City, I guess) director Alan Taylor was brought in for this one. And he definitely brings his A-game to not only the big climax, but also Daemon's seamless slipping being dreams and reality in Harrenhal. His attempts to branch out into feature films have been sadly lackluster with the likes of Thor: The Dark World and Terminator: Genysis, but he's absolutely a good one to bring in for what he does here. Hopefully this isn't the last we've seen of Milly on the show, as it would be kind of weird to have her severed head be her final image, but either way it's always a thrill to hear her skill at speaking Valyrian. Elsewhere in this story, Alys Rivers' introduction is rather curious if they're planning to stick anywhere close to her role in the books, but I'm already fully on board with her, and it was a blast seeing you instantly be in love too. At the moment she's quite reminiscent of David Bradley as Henry VIII's jester in The Tudors, the only man who can freely talk back to him, and Gayle Rankin chows into every line before Matt Smith can get his boots on. And well done on remembering Willem Blackwood, which I've seen a few reactors miss. One thing I've noticed more and more this season is that the writers seem much more confident with the kind of material that the younger actors can handle, after getting experience with them last season. Aegon especially is much more clearly defined here as a guy who genuinely wants to be a good king and is endlessly frustrated that he's instead immediately embroiled in this war, which everyone thinks they'll be better at than him. As a huge book lover, I especially appreciate that he simply had his father's books moved out of sight rather than burned. Olivia Cooke gets some of her best material so far, reminiscent of Sissy Spacek's magnificent scene furiously condemning all her children in the final episode of Bloodline, while also never once dropping the background discomfort of the Plan B juice (and you have to wonder if she appreciates the irony that this is exactly what first drove a wedge between her and Rhaenyra, down to being the very same guy). I also got a kick out of the background Kingsguard trio who constantly seem a second from poking each other's eyes and saying "Why I oughta!". Very much speaks the truth of Aemond's comment about the level of person Aegon saw fit to let in. And now, that ending. I of course went into this knowing full well it was the end of Rhaenys having read the book, but they do an amazing job playing to both sides of the audience, and holding on her leaving the seemingly ended battle just enough to raise our hopes that her survival will be among the changes they made. One of those changes is that this originally really was a fully constructed plan between Aegon and Aemond that went off without a hitch, so I'm extremely curious where that little development is going. I half expected Aegon to say "Marv, what are you doing? Marv?". And for as much as Criston Cole has been a pretty thankless role so far, Fabien Frankel absolutely nails his shellshocked wandering through the after-battle carnage. Much like Freddie Fox's usual roles, the performance hinges entirely on how well they can do the eventual humbling, and this certainly shows they got the right guy.

Ryan
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I have no idea if it was intentional, but it fits so well that I'm definitely going with Rhaenys turning back to the battle was to make up for not finishing off Aegon when she had the chance, and she gets poetically crushed under Meleys just like all those commoners she didn't spare a second thought for.

Thomas Corp
>>143074169

That idea does really fit well. I’ll buy that. The poetic karma with Rhaenys being crushed, I was trying to be nice in that I didn’t want to say anything about that as I probably would have been an insensitive asshole about it and given how it seems everyone is saddened by her death, better not to take the chance. I do concur, however, that there is the potent poetry. Rather curious if anyone within the show is actually going to talk about all those commoners that Rhaenys didn't spare a second thought for. Halfway through this season and I don’t think I’ve heard a peep about that. It’s weird.

Thomas Corp
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Alan Taylor has shown great skill with this show. I still have the second Thor film as my least favorite MCU film that I’ve seen thus far, though I recognize he got hampered by the executive meddling. Likewise, I don’t hold ill will toward him for Terminator Genysis which is the WORST FUCKING film of that franchise. I’d like to see him direct a film relatively unhampered by any of the meddling. If it is the last we see of Milly in this, (doubtful) it is a hilarious last image in this, I’ll tell you that much. Miss Mystery Woman, whom you said her name is Alys, has my attention. She reminds me some of Britt Ekland, Diane Cilento, and/or Ingrid Pitt in The Wicker Man with how she deliberately winds Daemon up some. Gayle Rankin is doing very well. Sorry to hear that people didn’t realize about the Blackwood kid all grown up. Yeah, there is greater trust in the cast playing the younger generation. It is interesting how Aegon is in that bottleneck of seeming to want to live up to his station, yet nobody trusts him or thinks he’s competent enough to do that. It is good that we don’t go Godwin’s Law where instead of burning the books, Aegon simply removed them. Particularly as he makes a point to specify that. Olivia was magnificent in that big scene. Good shout on Sissy Spacek, like I said, my mind went to Angela Lansbury, namely in The Manchurian Candidate. She does the perfect balance of condemning Aegon whilst dealing with the moon tea. I imagine the reversal/irony is not lost on her with the moon tea. I do recall in the cobwebs of my brain that people chattered away about the battle here, though it didn’t fully spring to mind until after seeing the episode, so the experience was still great. I had heard of the change made compared to the source material. I hate myself for how fast I understood the Marv reference that you made. It reminds me how once or twice, when venting about people spoiling things on the internet, either for myself or Jess, I’ve said “Ya JERKS!!” like Harry does in that scene, and when I relay that to my brother, he has the instant recognition of what I’m referencing. Fabien Frankel did sell the shell shock very well. I am curious to explore the fallout of the battle and Criston’s resulting mental state.

Ryan
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It helps that it may be the only time in his entire career that Joe Pesci ever used that particular tone.

Vanessa J McNamara

I don’t know what to say about this one that you haven’t said. Glad you enjoyed it, Jessica