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The Bad Batch 3x13/3x14 Full Reaction (Patreon)

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Thomas Corp

We do start out with how the throughline of this is the culmination of Omega’s arc. Her and Ezra get insanely wonderful arcs. She has absorbed and learned from all the lessons, missions, and experiences with the batch that she’s grown up, and is getting the damn thing done. We all watch feeling like proud parents. The first half of this reaction, the highlight is the batch finding Tantiss. Tantiss, by the way, having zero stars for comfort, like you said. Makes sense. The Emperor never sleeps, the lucky bastard, he doesn’t give a shit if anyone else is comfortable. Love your love with Echo being back in the mix. When Rampart asks if they think he’s lying, I didn’t even bat an eyelash, and I said “Yes” before the boys did, and you and I had the shared laugh at that part. Knew you would have a strong response to Rampart being given the uniform, and Echo’s sass with that. I spoke for the boys on that one when I first saw it, I indulged again this time round. When Rampart complains about the uniform being that of a captain, I bone dryly said, “Right. And?” and when Rampart reminds the batch that he was a vice admiral, I again bone dryly said, “And?” And then when he grouses about hating clones and most any time where Rampart grouses about shit in these episodes, a man just yells, “Hard cheese, you stupid, scum-sucking, shitheel, flypaper, insignificant, dried out little TURD!!” You don’t feel comfortable with Rampart in the mix, though I do like and wish to thank you for how you don’t think he’ll ultimately become a good guy. Rather, you have the question of could we count on him trying to stick it to the Empire or would he double cross our boys. I’d stress why it would be in his best interest to cooperate, by explaining how the arrangement is quite simple: if Rampart does what Hunter asks, and he does it convincingly, this will all be over before anyone knows it, and they drop Rampart on most any planet he wants where he can hibernate and wait for a better season. If Rampart doesn’t do it convincingly, then Crosshair steps in, and he will send Rampart to a deep, dark place and he is going to have FUN doing it. Allow Wrecker to get a few thumps in too. That should brighten his day. To his credit, Rampart never does betray the batch, and he does well enough, whilst getting on all of our nerves. When he insists on being referred to as Sir, I would tell him, “Don’t press your luck, pal.” It becomes much more difficult when they find they can’t download the coordinates to Tantiss, and have to hitch the ride. Rampart, of course, complains, making me say, “The deal has been altered, Edmon, pray it does not become altered any further.” It all builds to that fantastic sequence where Echo sneaks onto the ship to disable the sensors, and Hunter is at the ready. Loved your and Crosshair’s vote of confidence in Echo in that. Warms the heart. And I love your observations when Hunter is with Omega versus when they are trying to rescue her. With Omega, Hunter is very cautious; a protective dad. When Omega is in danger, there is no time for caution. Well shown when Rampart keeps insisting that what Hunter is trying to do, it’s impossible. No, it’s necessary. And I LOVED your reaction to when Hunter goes for broke, and everything about your reaction to that final sequence was even more perfect than I expected, Jess.

Thomas Corp

Now to the second episode. Again, great how Omega is organizing the teamwork with the other kids. One small note is that heartless bastards though the scientists are, they do allow the other kids to look after the baby some. Not that that makes them that much more sympathetic or anything. I love the show showing how the Empire is smart that the activity gets reported to Hemlock, and he’s at the ready. You begin to derive satisfaction from seeing Hemlock already starting to sweat and squirm. Perfectly understandable. He became so used to Tantiss being his own personal fiefdom, and in his arrogance and overconfidence he never stopped to consider what he would do if Tantiss ever became compromised. You wish for brutal death for Hemlock. I believe that was a popular sentiment back in April. There is something really sweet how Wrecker is not the one most scared of the heights this time round. Such is the big brother energy in rescuing Omega. Rampart, on the other hand, is less enthused as evidenced by his wailing. Wouldn’t have pegged Rampart for having a terrific soprano. I would surmise, given the sluggish speed in which he is traversing through the jungle after that, that in the course of rappelling down to the surface, that Rampart broke at least three ribs, which is technically his fault since he should have cushioned his landing better. Also, the unctuous serpent presumably shat himself, which is, of course, the greater indignity. Hahaha. Loved your words on the comparisons between Crosshair and Rampart. Likewise, it gets you right in the heart how you can see and hear how Crosshair is in hell going back into the lion’s den, yet he will gladly suffer all of it, so long as Omega escapes and lives. Tension rises when Rampart wakes up the creature that would likely use him as a toothpick. Loved Wrecker jumping to in that fight. It is such wonderful feelings of joy when the kids feel the shudder, and Omega observes, “They’re HHHHEEEE-reeee!” And there’s shared aversion to people saying, “You’ll think of something.” by the way. The anxiety becomes strong with that one, and I’d probably default to saying, “Oh, uh, I, I’ve got a headache.” to cause a distraction. She sees the Zillo Beast, making us very excited. The concern for Echo, I understand. Quick sidenote: knew you’d love his hand pun. The day may still come where Echo does not make it leading to your camera impacting into your wall. You mention yourself that it is not as impossible as you would like. However, it is NOT THIS day. THIS day Echo FIGHTS! It is great his confrontation with Emerie; Dee and Keisha sell that well. I live for how you are getting behind Emerie joining Echo, and it feels quite Kino. I want to make a comparison to something else, but I don’t know for sure if you’ve seen the film. I imagine you have given your overwhelming love for the franchise in question. Since I am uncertain, better to not take the chance by making the comparisons. Thus, the situation leading into the finale next week: All the players are now in place. The batch is on Tantiss. Rampart has been rounded up. Hemlock is afraid. Emerie has found her steel. The kids are all set for the one. Way. Out. And Omega has discovered a VERY big ace in the hole. Which means that we have come to the day where, despite what has befallen the players, despite their diverging paths, we have arrived at the said day where they inevitably come together in the red circle, to borrow/paraphrase the expression that is attributed to the Buddha, when really, Melville just made it up because, I don’t know, I guess he thought it sounded cool. In answer to your saying you expect bittersweetness. That was set in stone since Tech died. My one thought was that I was fully prepared to lose the batch. That they would all die. And I could live with that, so long as Omega lived. She was the sole character I felt was guaranteed to live. How that would happen, remained to be seen going into the finale. Which now I play the waiting game for a week to see how you react to said glorious finale. Until then, a most BEAUTIFUL penultimate reaction to The Bad Batch, Jess, thank you so much.

Saltire le Hutt

3x13 : The first scene where Omega meets the kids sets it up beautifully for the following scene with her and them. We can see how dejected they are. Omega though will help them. Echo getting the hero welcome this episode and he shows why in these episodes, that its justified. :) Haha Rampart may be a snake, but he's fun these episodes. His voice actor Noshir Dalal has a great sense of humour and was on the Star Wars reddit pages going into these last episodes when his character came back, and had a lot of fun engaging with the fans who liked seeing Rampart back. Dr. Scalder giving Emerie grief about having Omega in with the kids is perfectly valid from her POV as we know the trouble Omega can cause; but she should take it up with Hemlock - it was his decision to have them all together, not Emerie's. Now, onto my favourite Omega moment in the whole series, when her boss music starts up and she tells the kids they are getting the hell out of there. We can see the culmination in her training now and growth. Remember she came here by choice, to get the clones and now these kids out; she isn't going to hang around waiting on her brothers rescuing them, she's done this twice before. What I love about that scene is that she isn't saying she'll possibly get them out, she WILL get them out. Its not arrogance, its certainty! Her spirit is too radiant to be caged by the imps and she is giving those kids something they haven't had here before - hope! God I love that scene! :D Echo is great in these episodes. A lot felt he didn't get enough time to shine by himself in the Bad Batch, but he's shining here, showing us exactly why he was an ARC Trooper in the war; he can do stuff like getting on board that vessel without detection, without any effort. Ha, Wrecker looked cute with that tiny imperial cap on his head - he should have kept it! :D Crosshair telling Rampart to relax and that Echo has got this, is a nice touch. Crosshair knows what Echo can do, but its great hearing that confidence in him come from Crosshair, since he's been away from the squad for a couple of years. And he comes through in the nick of time, just as Hunter docks milliseconds before the science vessel jumps. Here we go!!!

Saltire le Hutt

3x14 : So from the off, Scorch and Hemlock are onto the Batch coming in and put them on the defensive. Yes Omega your brothers are coming, now time to press forward on your escape! Dalal's voicing of Rampart is great here, hearing the absolute hysteria coming from him as the squad exits the ship and they slide down the ropes into the jungle. His screams are hilarious - he's never had to do anything like this! Crosshair beginning to get the fear coming back here. We can't blame him, but with the care and love he feels for Omega now, he'll help her anyway he can, even if it means going back to his personal hell. The droid speaking to Echo is the same model of protocol/navigator droid as AP-5 from Rebels which is a lovely touch. Dr. Scalder is a piece of work. She isn't a clone but one who chose this line of work, and there is no compassion whatsoever from her. Even if Sami is only stalling her by pretending she's hungry (though I doubt the food portions they get in that place are particularly big), just flat out fobbing her off by saying it will pass, is dreadful. What makes someone become like that? I like that its Echo speaking to Emerie in that scene about her being involved in all of this. More on Emerie in the finale, but Echo knows better than most about being experimented on so quite rightly is angry about whats being done on fellow clones here, and kids. I can't be upset with Emerie saying she was just doing her job, as she knows no other life outside of being in laboratories. I always say that she is Omega who never got out to live. Omega and Echo have had all these experiences and are able now to see whats right and wrong, and to help no matter what. We saw in early Clone Wars that the clones were trying to find their place in all this. Sure there was clones like Rex and Wolffe who were legends from the off, but we saw the likes of the clones with Yoda all the way back in episode 1x01 of Clone Wars not have that identity until they had their eyes opened from being with Yoda. A few episodes later with "we are clones sir, we are meant to be expendable" and Plo Koon replying "not, to me!" helped those clones finds value within themselves. Heck Echo later in the training sims on Kamino and at his first outpost, was very regulation heavy, always quoting those regulations, hence how he got his name; until it all kicks off at that base and he and Fives make it out and join up with Rex under Anakin and Ahsoka to then get those experiences and form his own identity, to where we are now where he shows Emerie that there comes a time to stand up or shrink away. This is her moment to do some good. And of course Omega has a plan, and that it involves the Zillo! Lets go! The music in the end credits is a variation on the clone theme; its time to stand tall or fall. This is it!

Saltire le Hutt
>>147719302

Yes whether we like Rampart as a character or not, he does give a different dimension with CF99's mission here, and adds tension for them wondering if he will stick with them - for now - or betray them the first chance he gets. I did laugh with him saying he didn't get to Vice Admiral on looks alone, as he is quite a good looking character, especially with the beard; its just a shame his soul is ugly, and we can see how he can't see the possibility that someone like Crosshair, someone similar to him, can have the potential to change; and that is his tragedy.

Saltire le Hutt
>>147719319

Having a child have to look after an infant is just as horrible as having an imperial look after Bayrn imo. Sami is doing a lot of heavy lifting she shouldn't have to; and you wonder if she is the one who has to change Bayrn and see to him for any accidents he may have; which shouldn't be on her. Alas though, outside of Emerie, you wouldn't trust anyone else there at that base to look after him, so perhaps in these circumstances, its for the best. I think Wrecker isn't scared to jump out of the ship since he's determined to fulfil the mission, and he's trained for it so its less of an issue. If he had to think on it though, I bet he might have had second thoughts. Also Wrecker later jumping on that creature, where he still thinks he's in the war, but he bit off more than he could chew there with that monster. Yes looking forward to the finale next week, its a good one.

Thomas Corp
>>147721473

Omega rallying the kids is great. Well, of course Echo got the hero’s welcome. Jess probably demanded it, and Filoni provided. It is fun seeing how NOBODY takes Rampart seriously. One would be more receptive to his not unrealistic or invalid complaints, if he actually offered anything helpful. How he keeps complaining, you note, “You have any better suggestions?” I would not go so far as to say I liked seeing Rampart again, but it was nice to see him go through it. Turning off one’s morality, Scalder is objectively correct in her observations. Perfectly valid. And you would be more inclined to give credit to that if not for the moral bankruptcy that is Tantiss. That scene is a wonderful demonstration of the culmination of Omega’s growth. Her and Ezra, like I said, got superb arcs. Good note on how Omega is certain rather than arrogant in saying that she and the kids WILL get out. She is trying not. She is DOING. For there is no try with Omega. Fantastic moment. I know well the complaint that Echo didn’t shine properly in this show. The reactions Jess had would suggest otherwise. He does get wonderful time to shine here. Wrecker with the little hat was a handsome look. I cry when Crosshair says, “Echo’s got this.” That last sequence was another occasion where the adrenaline runs HIGH leading to the big cheer. Luckily there was no work the next day, though actually getting to bed after riding that high was a mite difficult. One or two celebratory beers helped with that.

Thomas Corp
>>147721513

Our boys are on the defensive from the start here. I would imagine they likely anticipated that. There is the saying: No one screams like a little girl like how a grown man screams like a little girl. There’s a behind-the-scenes story about that with James Hong in Mulan how his character insists that he does not scream like a girl, then immediately gets spooked and demonstrates that he does. The filmmakers were going to have a young girl provide the scream, but they realized that it didn’t sound funny enough, so James himself did it, and it sounds hysterical. Just as Rampart sounds hysterical here. Wonder if he takes requests. Crosshair makes the heart go out to him as he exhibits the trauma that he’s fighting through so he can save Omega, personal hell be damned. Scalder is a nasty piece of work. I imagine the food provided is like that goop in Narkina 5, which still sounds better than the bowls of slop in The Matrix. Echo has gone through what he went through that he has no tolerance for the Nuremberg defense. Emerie does illicit sympathy as she has known no other life, and as I note, she mentioned Hemlock noticed and recruited her indicating that she may have been in unfavorable positions prior. Emerie is very much what Omega would have become had she not gotten out. It is like the other instances where the clones embrace who they are. Like when Yoda encourages that though they may share the same face, they are all still their own man, woman in Omega and Emerie’s case. And there was Plo’s refusal to treat any of the clones as expendable, and they all became Plo’s Bros. And I now have to fight the urge to sob that comes from just thinking about that. Echo and Fives had their own self-discovery, as you detailed, which now Echo presents the option to Emerie that if she’s with them, then be with them, and she finds her steel. Massive excitement was felt seeing the Zillo again. The music is wonderful as always.

Ryan

Okay everyone, time to once again take our lives in our hands with the full knowledge that watching Disney+ means the company can murder us all whenever they want. Maybe it's just seeing Christopher Walken so recently, but the kids working on those games in that room immediately has me shouting "Don't get sent to the break room!" Michelle does such an amazing job charting Omega's development from naive little kid to seasoned rebel fighter, so that you barely notice any change in her performance as you're watching, but if you go back to the start right after seeing her here, it hits you right away. Maybe one of the hardest things a writer can do is create a genuine feeling of suspense even when you know full well the heroes will succeed because that's just how storytelling works, of which the greatest example ever is the climax of Star Trek's The Doomsday Machine. And the ending here uses the same principle of how so many things have to go right all at once that you can't help feeling the tension of whether it will work out, even knowing full well that there's only two episodes left so there's no way they'll mess up and have to come up with another way to find Tantiss. Hunter having such complete trust in Echo to start the docking process with no idea if he's actually close at all to turning off the security is about as clear a sign as you could hope for of just how close these guys all are, and the perfect way to send them into the final battle. Of course, a big highlight of both episodes is the absolute lack of concern anyone has for Rampart's dignity or comfort, and I'm sure there was some temptation to spend 30 seconds on him stumbling around after falling into the jungle, getting whacked in the face by a bunch of rakes. One downside to the show ending now is we don't get more of Omega and the other kids becoming a proper team; I'm sure Lucasfilm could make a whole show from that setup. And then there's the Zillo Beast, long after we'd all given up hope on its tease back in Clone Wars ever being followed up on due to the show's initial cancellation. So that was a big piece of excitement during this final week. Just one more episode to reveal C-X2 is Tech and for Rampart to become a good guy; better get on that. And speaking of theories that make less than no sense, there were also a few people insisting that the blue-skinned kid would be revealed as a young Thrawn. What makes you think I know?

Thomas Corp
>>147732153

Well, there are more fucked up ways to go than being murdered by Disney+. We bought our tickets. We knew what we were getting into. Why not? It is the problem with those games: They got to have more cowbell! Michelle really does a tremendous job with her voicework with Omega, and like you noted, it’s a very subtle evolution, and it plays so beautifully. These final episodes do exhibit strong showcasing of though you know that the mission is likely to succeed, given these being the final episodes, the tension remains strong. The suspense still remains of will any of them die in the process, which I felt was very likely. I know Jess has the strong concern for Echo. Yeah, Hunter going through despite not knowing how close Echo is to turning off the sensors, in addition to being a big, “FUCK YEAH!!” moment, it does showcase the trust in Echo and how tight knit the boys are. Such a perfect moment. The complete lack of even a single solitary shit about Rampart is great. Oh, I would not doubt that there was the urge to subject him to more, such as him falling face first into a pile of shit, which we then throw our heads back in laughter. The teambuilding with the kids does get a tiny bit short changed, true. We can always get more of that elsewhere somewhere down the line. It still feels unreal we got a follow up to the Zillo beast. I finished my venting on the one theory last week. Like I said, I appreciate that whilst Jess is curious what direction Rampart will take, she’s not entertaining the idea of him becoming a good guy. Your mention of the Thrawn theory is the first I’ve heard that one. Considering that Thrawn is around seventy by the time of Ahsoka, he’d be in his forties around now, so that theory holds ZERO water. So, I don’t know WHAT the barreling FUCK anyone is thinking with that one.