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Rebels 3x19/3x20 Full Reaction! (Patreon)

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DieWinterkirsche

Mauls final line shows perfectly that he's just another victim of Palpatine and the Dark Side... Maul is such a tragic character and I loved the duel... The short duel also shows how much Kenobi thought about how to fight Maul!

Saltire le Hutt

Slightly disappointed your thumbnail Jess wasn't AP-5 singing in space! :P Anyway these two episodes perfectly sum up the series. The first, daft and a lot of fun with comedy gold as Chopper and AP-5 go against each other. Then Twin Suns, which is as good Star Wars, as you'll see anywhere. Rebels is the best! :D Poor Wedge, having to suffer AP-5 and Chopper arguing that whole flight trying to one-up each other and referencing famous lines with "anything you could do (I could do better)" from Annie Get Your Gun! Chopper chasing that mouse droid! I love the cat references with him. :D The scene where Wedge goes to the loo, was actually a big deal at the time, as we had never seen toilets in Star Wars before! Now we've also seen them in Mando, Andor and probably elsewhere - another first for Disney; move over George Lucas! :P Zeb really enjoyed shocking Chopper with his bo-rifle. You can't blame him after all the grief Chopper has given him over the years! Said it before, NEVER get Hera mad!! Chopper and her could bring down the galaxy in their fury if they so wished, and perhaps we can see why Chopper is as he is, because Hera is frightening when angry - and he uses that side of her as a trait, to get away with what he does! I LOVE that they go full-on Disney at the end when AP-5 is singing in space and feeling at peace, its a lovely surreal moment. I heard that had he not been rescued, he'd have catalogued the stars around him before losing power and drifting onto eternity. Chopper is actually apologetic - briefly - at the end with AP-5 and Wedge, but then why would AP-5 believe him, he's Chopper!!! Love that he quickly gets over it and the sounds of his arms coming out resemble the sound of sharp knives, just before he hits them! As you say Jess, you never know what you'll get from this show, fun, silliness, heavy, drama, themes, lore, or here, musical numbers!! :D

Saltire le Hutt

Star Wars at its best, great visual storytelling in particular from Filoni with this one, so much in it thats that marries together two of the trilogies. Couple of notes before the big stuff. Ezra checks out the holo's calling to him, but Kanan isn't in his quarters at night, interesting! Jedi should be meditating or resting at night shouldn't they? :P You feel for Rex as he says no one would be more glad to see Obi-Wan than him, and Ezra is right, if Obi-Wan were to come back, he would be the Rebellion's greatest asset. Chopper doing a double-take at Ezra, as he walks into the desert, reminiscent of R2-D2 doing the same with C-3P0 when they split up at the start of A New Hope. That sand again, perhaps Anakin was right, it truly is Star Wars greatest foe!! Finally then, the circle is complete : Obi-Wan Kenobi kills Darth Maul. While we can never feel sorry for Darth Maul, his story, and the story of the last three Sith's in Maul, Vader and Tyranus, are all tragic in their own way. Anakin and Dooku however misguided in their beliefs and faults, DO make the choice to become Sith; Maul didn't have that choice, he was taken as a child by Sidious and trained for decades in the dark arts, he knew no other way. His true tragedy however is that he was given another chance at life after Naboo, even going through the hell of becoming an insane mechanical spider and being resurrected by Mother Talzin on Dathomir (who was his biological mother btw which is strange to think). After that he sticks to the dark side behaving as a Sith would, seeking power, raises his crime syndicate and becomes ruler of Mandalore. However, after all that throughout the Clone Wars, he loses it all, and rather than try to learn and move beyond all that, all he feels he has left is vengeance and Obi-Wan. In the holocron episode where he and Ezra look into both of theirs looking for answers to their questions, Maul remarks he sees 'nothing, only oblivion'. The holo wasn't failing to give him an answer, it was, it was telling him going down this path will only end up in his death. When he appears at the start of this episode lost, he is both that physically and mentally, and just seeks one thing, closure. One way or another, it ends on Tatooine. This episode sums up for me why Obi-Wan is my favourite Star Wars character, and Jedi. We've seen his trials and tribulations throughout his life, but at each stage he grows in maturity and wisdom; even during his darkest times in the Kenobi series, where he is deep in depression about everything that happened to the Republic, the Jedi and Anakin. By the end of that series though, he found his balance once more, and became what we saw here; a Jedi Master certain of his path, and of the hope that is to come with the boy he is looking after here. (This is what he is now, looking after kids in deserts, with Luke and Ezra here! :P ) The fight is subtle but brilliant and yields a very heavy nod to the Phantom Menace duels. I don't know how much Japanese style swordplay you have seen Jess; but this is pure Akira Kurosawa. Obi-Wan wins the duel before they clash blades. He firstly goes to his classic Soresu stance, then switches up to Qui-Gon's stance. Maul adjusts his feet in anticipation of doing exactly to Obi-Wan, what he did to Qui-Gon - push his hilt into his face, stun him and then go in for the kill. Obi-Wan knows this, is waiting for it, then splits his sabre in two striking the final deadly blow to Maul and finishes him for the last time. When we first saw the two of them, Maul was a Sith Lord, sure of his destiny to have power alongside Sidious. He was a superior warrior to Obi-Wan then, but got overconfident to his detriment as Obi-Wan splits him in half. He should have won that duel though. During the Clone Wars however, as Obi-Wan becomes a more experienced fighter throughout the war and becomes a High Council Jedi Master, we see that when he was balanced, he was more than capable of taking on Maul, they were equals there. However, here he is way beyond anything Maul, or any Sith, could hope to become as he reaches true Jedi Masterhood that very few Jedi every achieved, to make him one of the greatest Jedi in the history of the order. What sets Obi-Wan apart though is his compassion. As Maul falls, he is quick to catch him in his arms, cradling him as he did Qui-Gon and Satine, both people very dear to him, who were killed by this very foe. However, he doesn't see an enemy now, just someone else who like the Jedi, was played by Sidious, as the whole galaxy was. And when he puts his hand on Maul's chest as he passes, he shows sorrow for his fallen nemesis. Even writing this makes me weep slightly! You couldn't imagine Mace Windu being like that... He tells Maul that Luke is The Chosen One. To some this may contradict what George Lucas says, that Anakin is that. However it ties up with what is said in the OT films. Both Obi-Wan and to an extent, Yoda, believe Anakin is too far gone "he is more machine now than man, twisted and evil", and thinks Luke will become the Chosen One to end the Sith once and for all. Luke does do this, but finds the Jedi way of doing it, by trying to bring Anakin back to the light. Obi-Wan and Ahsoka couldn't do that, but Luke can. Speaking of Luke, seeing him run across the desert back to the Homestead hits me every time. In just over a year from now, he'll begin to realise his destiny as R2 and 3P0 come into his life, and it changes the fate of the galaxy... Then to finish it all off, cue Binary Sunset as we fade out. Perfection.

Thomas Corp

Yeah, the time has surely flown by. Yes, these two terrific episodes showcase the range of tone of Rebels. I’ll likely have to split my comments up as there is a lot to say about the second episode of this reaction especially. Start by talking about the first episode. I had tears in my eyes from laughing at Chopper and AP-5’s Annie Get your Gun back and forth. It was a great plotline of Chopper being compromised and AP-5 being the droid who cried loth-wolf. This is also why poor Wedge is on the mission so that the drama can unfold. By that I mean, Wedge isn’t as familiar with the Shady Bunch, more specifically, he lacks the intimate knowledge of just how much of an obstreperous menace Chopper is, and that his being nice would be as out of character as in Seinfeld the idea of Newman eating broccoli. An act that Newman wouldn’t do even if said broccoli was deep-fried in chocolate sauce. The lack of knowledge combined with AP-5 being “on one today” as you put it therefore allows the drama to unfold. To Wedge’s defense, he does clock Chopper being nice as curious, thus when Hera expresses concern, he does share that thought, which I love how it causes Zeb to sober up lightning quick. I still get a laugh over the head technician. My initial reaction upon seeing him was, “...Was that accidental or did the show make this guy look like Stewart from The Thick of It on purpose?” I then found out his appearance is based on Star Wars writer Pablo Hidalgo which makes greater sense. I keep forgetting Josh Gad is the voice. I lived for your reaction when Hera unleashes the mama bear to avenge Chopper. I again laughed so hard that I had tears in my eyes over AP-5 in space. That moment was pure Douglas Adams and I LOVED it. Now onto the second episode which was heavily hyped in advance, and it also serves as a fortieth anniversary tribute episode to the franchise. Or at least the original film. That opening scene was haunting. It makes sense as Darth Maul knew Obi-Wan is in the desert of Tatooine but lacks a precise location. Contrast this with the Third Sister who at least had a starting point to where to look for the Lars’ homestead. Sam Witwer went above and beyond with his voicework, especially the infamous, “Kenobi. KENOBIIIAUGHAUGHAGHHAGH!!!!!” which made my brother and I go, “Holy SHIT!!” One small moment that hurts is hearing Rex state he believes Obi-Wan to be dead. Lovely that Chopper goes with Ezra. As you observe, a highlight of this is how the episode shows Ezra’s growth from where he was when we started the series and where he is now. Massive credit to Stephen Stanton with both episodes, but his voicework as Obi-Wan was astonishing for how pitch perfect he was sounding like Alec Guinness. There was a scene or two where it almost sounded like Alec himself. Obviously, you know it’s not literally Alec as he died back in 2000; I remember the headlines about that being in all the papers. Even so, most impressive, the voicework was. It is a lovely moment that Obi-Wan and Ezra shared and Obi-Wan assured Ezra that he will attend to the “old wound” which made me smile, and say, “That was a nice touch.” Also, it is somewhat surreal seeing those two characters interact. The whole thing is even more profound following the Obi-Wan show. It adds so much to that already powerful moment.

Thomas Corp

Which brings us to the moment. Massive praise to Sam and Stephen both with their verbal duel. What was great was how it was not strictly speaking a foregone conclusion that Darth Maul would die, but the moment he deduces the existence of Luke, that’s when you know he’s not living past the episode. And as you said, killing Obi-Wan was really all he had left. I like to interpret that he was fine with victory or death, he just wanted one last chance to strike down his old adversary. Everything else in his life has been a constant failure to get the rock to the top of the mountain as it always keeps falling back down just as he’s almost to the top, so now he wants one last chance. The final physical duel did get some backlash for being so short, though that has lessened significantly over these past six and a half years now. My brother and I loved it, one for how Maul tried to kill Obi-Wan the same way he killed Qui-Gon, and Obi-Wan defeated the strategy. Two, we loved the Kurosawa influence of the duel. And we loved the poetry of the final moment; how it rhymed with moments past. First, Obi-Wan Kenobi held in his arms Qui-Gon Jinn, the man who was like a father to him. And Qui-Gon dies after assuring Obi-Wan about the chosen one; that he will bring balance. Second, Obi-Wan Kenobi held in his arms Satine, the love of his life. And Satine dies after one last time assuring her dear Obi-Wan that she’s loved him always; that she always will. And now thirdly, Obi-Wan Kenobi holds in his arms Darth Maul, his mortal adversary and killer of the previously mentioned characters. And this time it is Obi-Wan offering assurance about the chosen one, and Darth Maul dies content with the knowledge that they shall be avenged. “And again, it’s like poetry, it’s sort of, they rhyme. Every stanza kind of rhymes with the last one.” And when George said that statement, he noted that hopefully things would work. In this scenario it most certainly works as evidenced by Maul’s death genuinely getting you to tear up some which I did not expect. As you see though, thirty years following Phantom Menace, eighteen years in real life, we have the death of Darth Maul. No resurrections this time. It got me something fierce. Still does. Just like the final scene where Obi-Wan watches Luke from afar, complete with audio from A New Hope, and a specific presentation of John’s main theme for Star Wars, which beautifully segues into Binary Sunset. As I mentioned on youtube, your post-episode thoughts were perfect. No, seriously, I’m not kidding, everything you had to say, you were sensational, Jess. And it warmed the heart immensely to hear you say how your love for Obi-Wan has grown to what it is today. And how it would not have happened had you not embarked on the journey through these shows. And I find I cannot thank you enough for how wonderful a journey it has been sharing with you, well, everything. Thank you, Jess, for one of your most beautiful reactions.

Thomas Corp
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Oh, I knew that the thumbnail would be Obi. Had the episodes been reacted to separately, yes, I would have loved AP-5 in space to have been the one thumbnail. Love the Annie Get your Gun reference. The writers sneaking in musical theatre jokes had me going, “Oh God! These are my people!” The refreshers are actually a reference to the X-Wing series of books from the expanded universe of old. My brother especially loves those books, particularly for the focus on Wedge and Baron Soontir Fel. I’m with Zeb in that it probably felt damn good giving Chopper a good jolt. Oh, yeah, you get Hera mad, you incite a fury which like Hell hath no. That’s a good thought about AP-5’s fate had he not been rescued.

Thomas Corp
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The heart does go out to Rex for when he thinks Obi-Wan is dead. I like to imagine Chopper swearing like a sailor about the sand, saying stuff like, “I hate this goddamn fucking sand! It’s getting fucking everywhere in my goddamn circuits! Son of a bitch!” That is the great tragedy of Darth Maul that he never had the choice unlike Darth Vader or Count Dooku. Or hell, even Palpatine made the choice to become Darth Sidious; he sought that out himself, and not for altruistic or misguided desire to do good. The Emperor wanted to become a Sith. He chose evil because it was evil. He wanted the power. Just as I enjoyed Jess and her take on Obi-Wan, I loved reading your own thoughts as to why he is your dear beloved favorite character of Star Wars. The physical duel was fantastic. As I commented, I recall it initially getting backlash. But my brother and I were most happy with it. True, it did surprise us with how abrupt it was, but that wasn’t a problem for us. We loved the symbolism with the lightsaber stances, the poetry, the pure Kurosawa influence, we loved it. We had no complaints. I hear you on how even writing the comments about the end of Darth Maul and Obi-Wan comforting his old adversary gets you emotional. I had the same thing. It just catches you off guard. It did so again watching it this time. You know what’s coming and it still gets to you. Concerning the prophecy, even Yoda conceded it misread could have been. I love the varying interpretations of it. It makes for great debate and discussion if nothing else. Yes, that ending scene gets the tears flowing.

Saltire le Hutt
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Loth-wolf, I see what you did there Thomas! Well played. ;) I could see how AP-5's space epiphany can be seen as pure Douglas Adams, though I went with old school Disney in my interpretation. Really need to read Hitchhikers again someday, its been too long. Maul's design this episode is a bit different, his legs have been sandblasted to show he was probably aimlessly wandering around that desert for quite a while searching for Obi-Wan. A metaphor for his life after Naboo. "will it end here?" - there is almost a pleading way he asks that, he wants a conclusion one way or another. I feel for Rex when he shows sorrow about Obi-Wan, believing him dead. The only crew he has from his war days now is Gregor and Wolffe. He thinks Anakin died at the Jedi Temple, Obi-Wan too, and more recently Ahsoka. Not to mention all his other brothers he knows are gone. Its a shame he probably never got to know that Obi-Wan was still playing a significant part in trying to stop all this, just in his own way. Yeah Stephen Stanton does an admirable Ben Kenobi, showing the transition from James Arnold Taylor's Obi-Wan earlier in the episode. No one can be truly Alec Guinness, who for me was the greatest screen character actor of all time, but its a damn fine effort from Stephen. Obviously this was made before the Kenobi series, but this works still beautifully following on from that. We saw at the end, when Obi-Wan found balance within himself once more and became refocussed watching out for the Skywalker kids, that Qui-Gon would help train him for immortality if needed, and it was needed to help guide Luke on the path to truly bring around the end of the Sith (for the time being!).

Saltire le Hutt
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Yes, when Obi-Wan ignites his lightsabre, he does so with purpose to kill his nemesis; not out of fear and hatred and all the past they have, but his mission is too important for Maul to be around still knowing about it. He doesn't want to, but he has to. Maul has been Sisyphus so long now, he has his chance to end it here finally. Death would be preferable to the life he led for so long, for even victory were it to happen, would be hollow. The duel is perfect and shows care and understanding by Filoni and co. In just over a year from this time, Obi-Wan and Vader will have their final duel on the Death Star, and we see there that he isn't flipping around and doing fancy manoeuvres, so it would look out of place if they added that here. And this is so much better as it also shows Obi-Wan doesn't need to do those tricks to win this duel, his masterhood in combat is now total. And the Kurosawa/Leone touch as they adjust their positions and stare at each other is wonderful. We don't need a 10 minute epic duel, when this has more impact in these moments. And yes as Maul dies, he realises he failed in his life, but knowing that vengeance will come for the one that put him - put everyone - in this predicament, and in that he finally finds peace within himself to let go and pass on. And in that, we can empathise with this Frankenstein's monster.

YodatheHobbit

💙💔 A heart for blue sabered Obi, and one for heartbroken Maul.