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Rebels 4x11&4x12 Full Reaction! (Patreon)

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Saltire le Hutt

We learn at the start of the episode that it was a pyrrhic 'victory' for Pryce in taking out Kanan, as all the fuel pods are now destroyed, something Thrawn was wanting guarded at all costs to keep his factory moving; and she throws a parade in 'celebration' to cover this up. Thrawn is too smart not to find out though, and is furious with her. So Kanan's sacrifice not only saves his crew, but also completes their objective in shutting down Thrawn's TIE Defender factory. He suspected this in his vision, and hence choosing the rendezvous on top of the fuel pods, was a deliberate act on his part. Zeb smiling as the shuttle comes in, oblivious to the events, is hard to watch. And Chopper goes straight over to Hera to comfort her even before Ezra tells Zeb about Kanan. Chop knows instinctively somehow that Hera is in great pain, and when he goes to hold her hand, it gets me every time... Our crew are utterly defeated at losing Kanan; Zeb and Sabine naturally lash out and seek revenge. Hera gives into her grief, and Ezra his fear. Rhyder is thinking about the bigger picture and looking to our crew for answers, but they are in no fit state to think straight. Ezra says "you didn't prepare me for this Kanan" - thats one of the lines we heard Kanan hear in meditation in the last episode; he saw this path. And the wolves chasing Ezra are telling him not to give into defeat, fear and despair. Ezra running is showing he is giving in to that. He was taught to overcome these issues, and to continue to fight. Too see Hera broken in the cave as she is succumbing to her grief and self-doubt, is overwhelmingly sad. She is usually our crew's source of strength, and seeing her heartbroken is devastating to watch. Chopper helps her through it as she has helped him in the past. A piece from Kanan's holocron will be added to her kalikori in his honour and memory. The music in this scene is achingly beautiful. It doesn't overpower the scene, but like all great soundtrack music, adds to the emotion of it. Ezra meets DUME! Kanan's body may be gone, but that doesn't mean he can't still be with the Spectres in spirit to help guide them! Whether DUME is real or a vision of Ezra's is up for debate; but what isn't up for debate is what he tells Ezra, that the Jedi Temple is in danger (something that has been referenced all the way back to season 2, and was also mentioned in Kanan's meditation last episode), especially now the Empire has control of it. There are secrets within that he mentions, that cannot be obtained by the Emperor. Ezra must somehow stop Sidious from getting access to this knowledge. Zeb almost killing Rukh here in revenge, is something we would all be fine with; but Kanan would not, he wouldn't condone murder in his own name. When this episode originally aired, it aired directly after the last one. Hence those watching were both shocked at what happened in Jedi Night, but this episode helped them come to terms with the loss, and grieve - it doesn't rush straight back into the action. It takes its time to remember Kanan and what he stood for, such that, like our crew here when they next get back in the fight, they will do so not out of revenge for Kanan, but to honour him and his sacrifice.

Saltire le Hutt

4x12: Chopper having the time of his life in the wolf's mouth, as we hear him grumbling away as they sink into the planet! The wolves are an amazing addition to Star Wars. :D I wonder what Chopper would have seen or heard - if anything - during the vision as they travel through the planet? Interesting that Hera hasn't seen the wolves before and what they can do, hence her asking how they are able to do this. She goes with the flow though as she trusts Ezra when it comes to anything with the force. You are correct Jess that late Rebels gets quite mystical. We saw it several times in Clone Wars, but Rebels seems to dive into it a bit deeper and helps it stand out from its more illustrious older brother. One of the themes of this series too, is showing how nature itself is trying to fight back against the Empire; Bendu, the wolves and Loth-cats, amongst others, try to guide those strong in the force onto paths that could help fight back. Dave Filoni is a big conservationist, especially when it comes to wolves. Most of the times he gets interviewed, he tends to have a t-shirt depicting a wolf. I believe the native Americans have a thing about wolves themselves, how they are spiritual beasts that can guide them - and also have the yin and yang philosophy, which depicts two wolves interconnected, one black, one white. Both representing the psyche. What side you feed or yield to, will determine the path you will go on, one of light perhaps, or one of darkness. Throughout Clone Wars and Rebels, you have seen now, many wolf references; Plo Koon's Wolfpack Squad, under the command of Commander Wolffe (the one with the cybernetic eye), Mortis has wolf references (which is apt for this episode), depictions of wolves in caves and temples, and on Sabine's pauldron in the early episodes. Loth-wolves themselves, and even the production title for Rebels when in development was 'Wolf'! So we see the Empire digging out the site of the Jedi Temple. They are looking for a way to access the inner temple, some of the secrets - and the 'gateway' mentioned by the Minister played by the great Malcolm McDowell, within it. The fact that the Emperor himself is involved (Ian McDiarmid back in the role too, yay!) is very bad news. More to come in the next episode on this. Hera is unsure about proceeding when the Emperor is involved, but Kanan spiritually puts a comforting hand on her shoulder to console her and steel herself to give the go-ahead. Remember when all our crew had to think about was stealing fruit and weapons from the Empire? Now they are taking on the Emperor himself! Love his Rebels look, he looks completely like he does in Return Of The Jedi. Good to see Mortis getting a call-back here, and to see them heavily associated with the Jedi themselves, is big. We knew that in the Clone Wars episodes with them, they each represented a state of being; light, darkness and in-between with the Father, and that it was them who contacted the Jedi using an old Jedi distress call 2000 years old when they sensed Anakin; but still to see just how connected they were with earlier Jedi beliefs, is something to think about. The music when Ezra follows the Loth-wolves to the portal, is definitely a nod to Raiders Of The Lost Ark when Indy found the location of the Ark Of The Covenant. Of course that series was also composed by the great John Williams, so Kevin Kiner again doffs his cap to the great man in imitation here. Strap yourself in for episode 13 Jess, its bonkers!

Thomas Corp

Start by talking about the first episode, which wisely takes a breather to allow our Shady Bunch, and the audience to process and digest the events from the episode prior. It breaks the heart to see Zeb’s smile and expressions of hope and victory be crushed and ground into the dirt when our heroes come back. I KNEW it would get you so bad when Chopper goes straight to Hera, holds her hand, and he too cries. (Metaphorically speaking.) You know it’s serious when Chopper cries. Hera’s grief and despair is heart wrenching; Vanessa went above and beyond with that. It is therefore so great that Chopper rouses his mom from her stupor, and your reactions to all of Hera’s scenes were beautiful, Jess. Ezra’s line of not being prepared hits harder now than it did five years ago, leading me to say, “Let you in on a little secret, kid, nobody can prepare you for it. Nobody.” Startling to meet Dume the Okkoto looking loth-wolf. Shame he doesn’t have as quite an impressive voice as Keith David in the English dub of that film, still a pretty goddamn impressive voice though. It is great how Pryce tries to cover up her fuck up, and Thrawn sees right through it. Lars sells his fury which is startling, and you know Thrawn’s going to ensure that she explains her actions to three men who are a far less... patient audience than he would be. Yes, it is so great when Zeb and Sabine do the heavy lifting, especially their confrontation with Rukh. I got such a kick out of the Rear Window moment when Rukh sees Zeb. You and I are Slytherins, Jess, hence the shared reaction when Zeb starts beating the ever-loving shit out of Rukh. It is effectively jarring as Zeb has always been an avuncular sort. To see him in such murderous hatred and rage does give one pause, and Steve was perfect with the line delivery. I imagine Thrawn would want to study the artwork on Rukh, likely angering Rukh to the point that he would want to stab Thrawn in the back; wouldn’t be the first time. Now to the second episode. I’m with Zeb on the discomfort. Astonishing music that Kevin Kiner provided for that sequence, loved you dancing along to it, by the way. To see the Empire attempting to plunder the temple highlights the seriousness. We meet Minister Hydan, voiced by the always marvelous Malcolm McDowell. Based on his appearance, I would wager he’s a member of the Imperial Court, which combined with the line about the message from Coruscant provides JUST enough of a warning before you hear that beautiful voice. Hearing Ian McDiarmid again as the Emperor was everything, especially hearing Ian say, “The Mortis Gods.” And Ezra is right that the time to act is now. I’m chiming in this time saying, “I don’t know if you’ve checked the forecast. But if the Emperor’s involved, there won’t be a rainstorm ruining the parade. Hell, it won’t even be a thunder and lightning storm. If old Sheev’s gotten involved, it’ll be a GODDAMN HURRICANE.” Good on Zeb saying what he did to Hera, followed by the appearance of Kanan, which your reaction to that was perfection, Jess. A question mark remains as to how long the Sith have been after what’s in the temple. Assuming that they’ve been aware of the existence of the secrets of what lies within the Jedi Temple on Lothal, this has been, I presume, a goal, or plan, if you prefer, of the Sith, probably for millennia, to gain control of it. “To lay their just hands on that Golden Key / that ope’s the Palace of Eternity.” as Milton said. I can certainly see the Emperor having been aware of and after the secrets for decades at least. As mentioned, the music homages the masterpiece of a score that John Williams composed for Raiders of the Lost Ark. Specifically, the music when the location of the Well of Souls is discovered. With it, it adds an ominous note, not unlike what our dear beloved Sallah said in that if the secrets are real, then perhaps “it is something that man was not meant to disturb. Death has always surrounded it. It is not of this earth.” Which leads me to concur wholeheartedly with your observation that, yes, this show has done exceptionally well with exploring the mysticism of the Force. A remarkable reaction, Jess, one I thank you for most sincerely.

Thomas Corp
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And by disrupting the production of the TIE Defenders, it means Thrawn loses the backing as Project Stardust is closer to completion. Thrawn, of course, does plan to salvage the situation as the war is still young. And he plans to offer Pryce’s head, on a plate, to go. Yeah, Kanan undoubtedly planned for that outcome. Zeb’s reaction never does get easier, nor does Hera’s despair. Good on the little murder-bot to get her back on track. Right, Kanan would not approve of murder in his name. I see no problem with it, but it is good that Sabine gets him to cool down. So lovely that the episode lets us take a breath before going back into the action.

Thomas Corp
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Chopper yelling, “Put me down this instant, you overgrown, flea-bitten mutt!!” is most amusing. Good question on what he saw or heard if anything during the journey. Filoni doth have great love and appreciation for his beloved wolves. I was delighted that Malcolm McDowell was Hydan, and the character even looks like him, meaning if they wanted to, Malcolm could portay the character in live action. Ian returning once again to voice our dear Emperor, made me weep tears of joy. I assume whilst he recorded his dialogue, they asked Ian to record the lines the Emperor had back in season two, hence the updated version of that episode. Old Palps does look just as he did in Jedi, it’s so great. Yes, nothing says how far our Shady Bunch has come when their primary concerns were stealing fruit and weapons from the Empire, to now, where they have to stand against the Emperor himself. The Raiders homage in the music is stunning. My brother and I concur that when it comes to an overall tapestry, John’s masterpiece is Star Wars, but when it comes to individual themes, Indiana Jones is where John excels like no other. Such as that wonderful scene of Indy discovering the location of the Well of Souls. Lord, did it sound beautiful in a theater sound system.

Saltire le Hutt
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Chopper holding Hera's hand gets everybody. All the reactors I've watched, get tear-eyed when that little scamp does that to help comfort Hera during her bereavement. He knew before Ezra came over to Zeb when he saw Hera, that he'd need to be there for her like she has been for him so many times over the years. He knows her better than anyone. He may be a murderous, surly little sod, but he's loyal to the core for our crew (well perhaps not Zeb as I still don't think he ever forgave him for betting him off against Lando!), especially Hera. Yes Vanessa Marshall is fantastic as Hera in these episodes; you can feel the pain she is going through, and how vulnerable she is here, as her rock is now gone; though its a wonderful moment when Kanan's spirit helps her make the right decision after being hesitant to go against the Emperor. This also does turn Ezra's world upside down too. While he has lost his parents and has no siblings, he didn't see them die, which is a completely different thing to what he experienced with his surrogate father and mentor Kanan going like he did. Now is not the time however to crumble, he has to be strong and carry on all what he has learned, if they are to win this fight. Jess is a Slytherin eh? Had her down as a Ravenclaw. Gryffindor for me, though dunno why, when I'm far from a courageous person lol!! I do have a cool Patronus though, an eagle owl. ;) Yes Zeb is a genial and honourable fellow, but he wasn't Captain Of The Honour Guard for no reason, he I'm sure could be terrifying to anyone crossing him. Was rewatching a playthrough of Jedi : Fallen Order the other day and Jaro Tapal is definitely someone you wouldn't want to get on the wrong side of; though Zeb doesn't need to be a Jedi Master to be that, as a warrior Lasat, that would be enough and this "Gryffindor" would run away faster than C-3P0 after a full charge, if he was coming charging at me! :D Great to see Mortis return, my jaw literally dropped the first time I saw this episode when they brought that back! Its a great question about how the Sith haven't found out about all this until now, or haven't found a temple with the secrets this one possesses, until now. Is there something special about Lothal (and Ezra?) in particular? Perhaps we can delve into this a bit more after next week's episode, but it does raise as many questions as it answers, like Mortis did during Clone Wars. And yes, it is great when shows like Rebels and others delve more into the mysticism of the force and what it all means. I've always found that to be the most gripping thing for me about the franchise. We could all ask a dozen people what the force means, or is, and how it communes with people, and we'd probably get different answers from every one.