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Doctor Who 14x01 "The Star Beast" Full Reaction

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Ryan

I was a bit worried in the opening few minutes where it seemed like this might just be a whole hour of everyone shouting their catchphrases at each other like a latter-day Allo Allo. Luckily, that quickly dies down and the rest is everything I could have possibly hoped for. RTD has clearly spent the last decade-plus thinking over what he could have done differently, and I'm sure the show itself calling out how terrible Donna's ending was through the end of Clara's story played a role in his wanting to take this chance to correct it. And I'm sure getting to give an open "fuck you" to the BBC's openly transphobic rhetoric in recent years was a huge bonus (and also means we get to watch all the people who'd somehow convinced themselves he'd be rescuing the show from being "woke" crying over it). Seeing Tennant and Tate come back to these roles after all the other stuff they've done in the interim (seriously, check out the 2017 Ducktales show if you haven't; it's a million times better than it had any right to be and Tennant's Scrooge going up against Tate's Magica is a treat every time) feels so natural and exactly as it should have always been. I also have to give a huge shoutout to the always awesome Miriam Margolyes, who nails both the Meep's innocent childlike act and real evil mastermind personality. The brief period where it seems like Wilf has died is incredibly painful after Bernard Cribbins' real life passing, but thankfully doesn't last long. I'm so happy with how this turned out, and with the huge secrecy that's been built around the next one, I have full confidence it's going to be just as good.

Andrew Vignaux

I really enjoyed both the episode and your reaction. While there are so many good things to mention, I'm going to pick one of the most trivial - that I adored: I don't know whether pulling out the wig was a callback for those of us who have seen the trial scene in "The Stones of Blood" story, but I loved it so I'm absolutely treating it as a callback.

Paul Hayes

Great fun to watch - thank you! And thank you so much for persevering with it for us. I honestly didn't notice anything amiss!

Andrew Vignaux

Thanks! I'm staying away from all behind-the-scenes stuff in case I learn something I don't want to know yet. i.e. I didn't want to check, so thanks for letting me know

Liam Kershaw-Calvert

I like to think at the end when they’re talking about what happened to Donna and the Doctor says “it killed me”, he said it four times because it killed 10 and then each Doctor that came after. So good to have the DoctorDonna back 💙

Mark McKeown

Yeah no worries. He talked about it on the video commentary that's on iPlayer. From what you've said I would say avoid it until episode 3 cus they actually drop something that I'm surprised they did.

Ryan

It could also stand as a nod to Tennant's role in Broadchurch, alongside two future Doctors.

Thomas Corp

I am sorry to hear you say you had a difficult day, Jess. Personally, I didn’t notice anything off with your hair and makeup. Also, as you note, the special just made you forget about the troubles, which is nice. The overall feel of this was melancholic and nostalgic. And ultimately most heartwarming seeing the Doctor and Donna again. Her daughter made a strong impression. Likewise, I loved her husband. I loved how you loved Sylvia’s vibe. You summed up well my thoughts on her in this in that the moments are hysterically funny, yet they mask the terror she has that Donna will die if she remembers. And Jacqueline sold it all so well. The mention of Wilf got me BAD. Like you said, lovely to hear the character lives. God bless Bernard in that role. The Meep was terrific. Miriam Margolyes was delightful, and when the Meep revealed the Meep’s diabolical nature, I LIVED for Miriam going full-tilt ham. I shared the conflict of you want Donna to remember, but you’re dreading her death if she does. Thankfully, she lives and remembers. Good Lord, David and Catherine getting you right in the heart bringing back their old energy as if no time has passed. All of your reactions to that were marvelous, Jess. I also suspected you’d appreciate the coffee machine, which yes, hopefully it is unscathed. And even if it is damaged, I imagine that there are plenty of terrific coffee machines in Sesska’s Spa they could borrow. Unless, of course, you are FIERCELY protective of said coffee machines, I would not blame you in the slightest if that is the case. A lovely reaction to kickstart this trio of specials. Again, I am sorry you had a bad day. I hope filming the next two specials will be much better. Until then, thank you for the lovely reaction, Jess.

Thomas Corp

There was a fear of pandering/fanservice on my end as well, but that faded quickly as you said. You can tell Davies has given this a lot of thought. The new Duck Tales was quite good. The wound that came from what happened to Donna has healed. Miriam as the Meep was everything. The Wilf scene hurt, and then became more uplifting upon finding out he still lives. No idea what is to come, save for one thing, but I have full confidence it will be great.

Ryan

Rose’s actress is also in the Netflix series Heartstopper, which is well worth checking out. So much queer goodness.

Nicole Mazza

I was so happy with Phil Collinson's confirmation of the reference, as I totally yelled out at the screen when the Doctor put the wig on: 'STONES OF BLOOOOOD!'. But then, that's one of my fave stories, so...

Nicole Mazza

I honestly was pretty meh about this story tbh, but was super happy to see Beep the Meep and the Wrarth Warriors return from the 1980 comic. <3

Josef Schiltz

Hi Jess. Rough day or what? So glad that you loved this special and that took the stress levels down a notch! As usual, the juxtaposition of distant and far flung realities that is Doctor Who fandom couldn't agree on it. Some of the written venom could have come from the Meep itself! As the Speaker in the House Of Commons might yell, "DIVISION!!" Those of us who are older are fully familiar with the turncoat that is the Meep, and weren't in the least surprised that it turned nasty, as this special is based on the comic strip The Star Beast, that was in Doctor Who Weekly Nos 19-26, - which ran from Thursday February 20th 1980 to Thursday April 9th and was written by Pat Mills and drawn by Dave Gibbons in his back bedroom studio back in 1980 - the sort of freelance studio set-up that I had back then. The strip featured the creatures you saw, including Beep the Meep, whom in this special is voiced by Miriam Margolyes ( aka Professor Sprout from Harry Potter) and the Wrarth Warriors who were hunting it down. The Doctor portrayed in the strip was Tom Baker and I suspect, Jess, if you've a moment or two in your schedule, you could turn up some pages in an image search. The Doctor in the strips was usually without a companion owing to the money they didn't want to shell out for too many likenesses! The only exception was Sarah Jane Smith who appeared in a few at the beginning of Tom's tenure in the role and - If I'm remembering correctly without hauling the collection out! - in a Holiday Summer Special with Jon Pertwee's Doctor. In the World Distributer Doctor Who hardback annuals - which were a welcome sight on Newsagents shelves a few weeks before Christmas - the companion(s) of the day were usually included. In the original Star Beast strip in Doctor Who weekly, a companion invented solely for the story was called Sharon.

Josef Schiltz

I think that the problem that I am seeing at the moment is that the cause and effect 'air' is being so filled with fix-it-all energies that Doctor Who is losing it's distinctivity from the Marvel Universe, the latter being all very well in it's place. Doctor Who has always dwelled withing the realm of a Human-like man who uses super sciences, wit and his vast experience and intelligence to get out of scrapes, with the super science aspect being handled by the TARDIS, although the TARDIS being sentient and erratic as we knew, and there was always an air of mystery about both the Doctor and his wondrous machine. With the events of this episode in mind, I recall not really being a fan of the meta-crisis and the Doctor-Donna and 'solutions' being obtained by the sudden endowment of superpowers. The sonic screwdriver is quite near enough to a superpower, although it is a device and a device that is a get out of trouble one for the writers. As it was with K9. I can sympathize with the evolution of the screwdriver to include the abilities of it in this episode. After all, why wouldn't a scientist, who gets into all the mischief that the Doctor has, not avail himself with the add-on tech of a shield to protect the vulnerable - including himself - and a holographic tech screen so that he can work things out on the hop. Useful! But when all the superpowers business starts flitting about, we may as well be in MCU and I have to ask myself "Would Robert Holmes have written this?, even Terry Nation, who was fond of his tropes." In 1962, the year before Doctor Who burst onto our screens, in his book “Profiles of the Future: An Inquiry into the Limits of the Possible”, - a handy copy of which in secreted in my library - Arthur C. Clarke formulated his Three Laws, the third law is the best-known, being “Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic”, which is quoted by the Doctor on one occasion - perhaps more. I've always felt that the character of the Doctor, despite his abilities and his air of mystery, was nearer to Quatermass, HG Wells and the worlds of SF, than Doctor Strange. The distinctions have, to all practicalities of storytelling, well and truly blurred so that the casual viewer, even the longstanding viewer, can be hard put to tell the difference.

Andrew Vignaux

I must admit that I quite like it when the sonic screwdriver is used to unscrew something.

Josef Schiltz

i had to look that one up. I remembered her in the first series, but not in the second. It is years since I saw Blackadder in it's entirety and C-PTSD also messed up my memory - except for Doctor Who, which seems to stay no matter what - so forgive?