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Ahsoka 1x04 Full Reaction! (Patreon)

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Ryan

This actually isn’t the first time that Rosario and Hayden worked together. That would be the movie Shattered Glass, which I’ve been using this show to promote every chance I get, since it’s sorely underrated and tells a little-known true story that’s only become more relevant since. And after his appearance in Obi Wan got some mockery for not trying to de-age him in any way, it’s very neat to not only see it happen here, but in the form of an otherworldly spectre so that the waxy, uncanny valley effect they still haven’t overcome actually fits the scene. On the downside, this is the first of two times in the show where I think they fell down on making the story accessible to people coming in cold, though I also can’t think of any way they could do it since Ahsoka has already been in the World Between Worlds and it wouldn’t make sense for her to be asking what it is. I’m also still a bit ticked off that they went so far out of their way to give the villains a constantly masked henchman and then had the nerve to act surprised when the fans assumed some big reveal about his identity was coming. At least it didn’t turn out to be Ezra as quite a few absolute maniacs among the fans were insisting. And I have to give major kudos to the show actually making it believable that Sabine would team up with the bad guys by making it all about getting back to Ezra, and it also really helps that Baylan is that most effective of all villains, the one who truly believes they’re doing the right thing. Ray Stevenson fully makes you buy that viewpoint even with our still knowing little about what his goal actually is, especially in contrast with his gleefully, knowingly evil performance in RRR. And considering some of the crap the Jedi Council pulled in its final years, how can you say he doesn’t have a point?

Thomas Corp

We certainly got an action-packed episode. Start with Hera. It is great how she does what she knows to be right and damn the consequences. Love seeing Teva team up with her, your own reaction seeing Teva was heartwarming. I second your wanting Zeb to have been part of the group. It made me laugh too as one of my brother’s oldest friends was particularly livid over Zeb not being part of the group, yelling, “Where’s Zeb!? WHERE the FUCK is ZEB!?!” I didn’t argue with him on that one when he told me that. I like how you anticipated the rotten likelihood of the uncomfortable yet necessary conversation of would they have to sacrifice the map, and with it, any chance of saving Ezra, to prevent Thrawn’s return as Heir to the Empire. Hearing him be called that, made me point to the screen in nerd glee. To your point, you figure the map won’t be destroyed given the build-up, still, a moral conundrum. Loved your reaction to Huyang’s adorable moment, and I especially enjoyed your DELIGHTFUL reaction to Huyang throwing down with the fisticuffs, pugilism, the manly art of self-defense. Likewise, it was so great seeing your reaction to Ahsoka, well she doesn’t have the Obi-Wan moment of cutting the Inquisitor in half. She does, however, get in the Seven Samurai moment resulting in the revelation of what appears to be Dathomirian magic, hinting this Inquisitor was possibly a walking corpse. In any event, I loved that reaction, Jess. This then means everyone’s Inquisitorial theories ended, chief among them, that said Inquisitor would be Ezra, despite the last episode already strangling that theory in the crib. I was mean with people saying, “So sorry about your Inquisitorial theories. I did tell you they would go up in smoke. Had I known how literally said eventuality would transpire, I would have been nicer about it, and phrased things differently.” You are right that this show has crafted most worthy adversaries for our heroes. Ivanna does such an excellent job conveying how Shin is an intimidating woman with a bob who can handle her shit. And she has her own gadgets and tricks. Theatricality and deception are powerful agents to the uninitiated. But those that are Dark Siders ARE initiated. Then there’s Baylan. And it’s this episode that it really becomes depressing as hell that Ray is no longer with us, as he SOLD his scenes. I loved him bringing the Alan Rickman mentality of “As far as I'm concerned, I’m not playing the villain. I’m just playing somebody who wants certain things in life, has made certain choices, and goes after them.” Filoni even commented on it by saying, “As we were shooting, I’d remind him, like, “Ray, you’re the villain here. You understand that?” He was like, “I don’t think so.” I’m like, “Okay, I appreciate that you don’t think so, and Baylan wouldn’t think he’s the villain, but you are a villain in this.” And he’s like, “We’ll see.” It was kind of perfect.” his fight with Ahsoka is most impressive, especially when he targets her unprocessed trauma. Not helping Ahsoka is her brief fear that Sabine was killed, and her Joe Pesci and/or Ronald Lacey moment of grabbing the map whilst the metal is piping hot. I SO appreciated your reaction to Baylan convincing Sabine to acquiesce to working with the villains to have the chance to see Ezra again. Lots of fans condemned her for her actions. I loved, Jess, you did not. You took the time to understand. Love the smug glee that Diana gave Morgan in the moment of The Eye of Sion making the jump to ludicrous speed. Now to the final scene, which yes, that’s how you end an episode. Breathtaking to see the World Between Worlds in live action. Now to the part of this show that got leaked then buried. It leaked a year in advance that Hayden would be in this, and then it quickly got buried. So, I knew at some point we would see Anakin. Even so, it did not prepare me for when I’m still processing seeing the World Between Worlds, then you hear “Hello, Snips.” Which, the subtitles only said the speaker was a mysterious voice. But I instantly recognized the voice, and the use of “Snips” started the sobbing. A major shout-out to Rosario expertly changing Ahsoka’s body language as if Ahsoka had emotionally and mentally regressed to being the young padawan she was upon hearing her old master’s voice. All of it leads to seeing Hayden as Anakin as he looked in Revenge of the Sith. And just seeing Hayden as Anakin interacting with Ahsoka is something I NEVER thought I would ever get to see. Seeing it at the end of this episode, the tears were relentless, and they have increased seeing your reaction to that moment, which was PERFECT, Jess. And to then end on a few notes of The Imperial March, chills. This reaction was most magnificent, Jess, thank you so much.

Thomas Corp
>>126545707

I’ve heard that Hayden and Rosario have also been close friends since their school days, which marvelously contributed to the fantastic chemistry they have in this. Also, Mary Elizabeth Winstead has the previous experience of working with Rosario lending to the great chemistry in Hera and Ahsoka’s scenes as Mary and Rosario were both in Death Proof, which despite it ranking last on my personal ranking of Tarantino’s films, is still plenty fun, and the two ladies are great in it, as was everyone in that. I never had a problem with the lack of de-aging for Hayden in Obi-Wan, nor are there any complaints about the use of it here. It’s this episode that convinces me that this show is more for the more ardent and passionate fans rather than casual fans. Then again, my brother, though he hasn’t seen Clone Wars or Rebels save for one or two episodes, wasn’t entirely lost concerning the World Between Worlds. Primarily because he’s had friends loudly vent about how much they hate “time travel in Star Wars.” which leads me to explain it’s more akin to the Palace of Eternity as Milton described. It also helped that my brother considered the location and what it was to be a secondary concern to the emotions of seeing Hayden again. The thought being, “Whatever this is, I don’t know, but we got Hayden back! Let’s go!” My sister in-law was more befuddled, though she had my brother to help her keep up, and later, I explained a few things. Yeah, the theories that the Inquisitor would be Ezra were the most annoying, especially after the Inquisitor’s reactions to the purrgils completely destroyed the theory, yet people kept insisting that it could happen. The writing of Sabine’s decision was excellent. And yeah, it just continues to be heartbreaking about Ray’s death. Made worse that he never got to live to see how the fans so warmly embraced Baylan. Concerning the actions of the Jedi Council, they’ve got a LONG history of doing morally questionable shit over millennia, not just the shit they pulled in their twilight years. Thus, yeah, regardless of if one happens to think Baylan is right or wrong in his beliefs and goals, hard to disagree with him, or at the very least, you concede the exceptionally valid points he raises.

Ryan
>>126553290

My immediate reaction to hearing Hayden would be in the show was "They have to have him call Ahsoka 'Snips.' I mean, what possible reason could there be for not taking that opportunity?" So it literally being the first thing he says was a very happy moment. I remember a lot of people were expecting Zeb just because his cameo in The Mandalorian would be a bit pointless if they weren't making sure they had the animation model for a larger role, but on the flipside there was also the argument that it was because he wouldn't be appearing and they wanted to head off everyone asking where he was. Of course, I won't be saying here who was right.

YodatheHobbit

Jess, there's a shot at about 10:33 in the episode, after it cuts to the rebel trying to think of "something", right before Hera enters the camera frame, a small but familiar face looking back at Hera on the dashboard/controls of Hera's pilot seat of The Ghost I think you should see.

3dbadboy1

FYI, the next episode (5) was such a big deal that it had a limited release in theaters.

Saltire le Hutt

This world is a lovely setting for this episode, with the red trees showing that once again Japanese inspired environment along with feel; then we have the cliff where the map is being calculated leading into a rough sea, indicative of changing times once more and where our characters are at mentally. Sabine is acting out of emotion and Ahsoka is looking at the big picture. She does want Ezra back, she made a promise to him in Rebels that she will find him too; but the cost of doing so, may be too high for whats to come with Thrawn and a fleet returning. I like the line Ahsoka says to her "can I count on you?" and shes says this in a weird way - which I'll come back to. Huyang fist-fighting an HK droid was awesome. I love after the fight as well that he takes a bit of time to get up, its a nice detail to show he's not a spring chicken! Jacen asking Hera "why do I have to do as I'm told and you don't?", and you can hear Chopper reply "yeah, what's up with that?" - Chopper you know very well why YOU need to be kept in line! :D I love that Carson is with Hera going off on their own against orders. We saw in Mando he was disillusioned by the red tape the New Republic seemed to be stuck in and so went off himself to get support by getting Din and investigating what happened to Gideon. He's going to have Hera's back. He's become a bit of a legend that fella, give us a series with him and Zeb patrolling the galaxy righting wrongs! The fight choreography was excellent this episode, all these different stances which felt so much like watching a Kurosawa samurai film, than Star Wars. We've had fights choreographed similarly in SW before, but not to this level; its been more about speed and how cool it looks in the past, particularly with the prequel fights. I prefer this I have to admit. It was a cool moment with the spinning lightsabres where Ahsoka just struck through the damn thing to show they really aren't all that for someone of her level. And I love that after all the theories about who Marrok was, they literally all went up in a puff of green smoke! It looked like he was an exhumed Inquisitor held together using Nightsister magic, which is so much cooler than him being Starkiller (ridiculously), Ezra or Cal Kestis, as some guessed. Also again his smoke leaving him violently (a bit like the Witch King in Lord Of The Rings too) was also like the blood splattering out in a samurai movie. Lovely details they are sprinkling in here, but thats to be expected when its Filoni. Baylan mentions 'how inevitable' when Ahsoka ignites her sabre. She won't be reasoned with in his eyes and she is Anakin's apprentice so will always coming in fighting. He thinks she is being misguided by not seeing it his way, but Ahsoka will always seek to prevent a war before it starts. Both have been here before. I note that he holds his lightsabre like a claymore sword, which matches someone of Ray's size. He also don's medieval looking armour (as did Marrok and Shin) literally showing him to be some sort of "Knight". His brute power going up against Ahsoka's athleticism and speed. She doesn't ignite her smaller shoto sabre. She's going to need two hands to deflect his blows and also has a hand free to try to get the map. Again showing how well these duels were worked out. Back at Sabine's duel, she almost gives Shin a type of force slap, but Shin isn't impressed. So she catches her off-guard instead by switching to her hand rockets. Nice! Ahsoka grabs the map but is burned by the spell thats on it, it may even be more than that too as she is almost completely disabled, giving Baylan the upper hand. Finding out Sabine's family of Tristan, her father and mother all got killed in the Mandalorian Purge, is new; and helped split her off from Ahsoka. This helps solidify to Sabine her choice she has to make and not destroy the map. Going back to Ahsoka's line "can I count on you?" earlier, she said it in a way that suggested she had read Sabine's mind, as that's what Ezra told her in the Rebels finale "I know I can count on you". Ezra got there first and she was always going to choose Ezra over her master in this situation. She is put in a difficult place and she makes her choice. The Ghost, oh The Ghost! Its become such an iconic ship too, god I love it, and that glorious sound it makes when it re-enters normal space from hyperspace. One of the best sounds in Star Wars. Oh and if you look closely at the console in front of Hera, she has a picture of Kanan on it. :'( That ending though.... The transition was great between the ocean and seeing Ahsoka back in the World Between Worlds. Hearing Anakin say "I didn't expect to see you so soon" - indicating she is in purgatory, and balancing between life and death. As you all know by now, I've never been a huge Anakin fan, but what always affected me with him was what happened to others close to him. And I have to admit, I reacted similarly to you Jess on seeing him. Obi-Wan was filming around the same time, so its cool they got Hayden back for this too, so that we can have Ahsoka and Anakin talk once again; which will bring closure for her and all that has happened to her, so that she may move on and become Ahsoka The White. This episode really kicked things into high gear.

Thomas Corp
>>131301624

A strong Japanese look to the planet which was great. They do a great job of Sabine and Ahsoka having their stances on finding Ezra versus stopping Thrawn from returning. Good fighting moment from Huyang, and it is good he has that silent, “I’m getting too old for this shit.” moment that you pointed out. Oh, that Chopper still being a gadfly. Teva has become quite a beloved character. Maybe the Rangers of the New Republic show can star him and Zeb. Kallus too, though there’s question on casting. All those Inquisitorial theories proverbially and literally going up in smoke was a hilarious irony. I assume whoever the Inquisitor was, that they were a corpse they dug up for some extra muscle. Loved the scenes with Baylan in this episode. He has a great fallen medieval knight feel which greatly provides the contrast to Ahsoka being the ronin that she is. Getting burned by the map likely handicapped Ahsoka at the crucial moments. Your observations on Sabine’s choice, very well spoken, sir. The Eye of Sion going to ludicrous speed was a jolt. Hell of a transition, yes. Seeing Hayden again, there really are no words to describe the emotions I went through. Like Jess said, THAT’S how you end an episode.