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Ahsoka 1x04 EARLY Early Access! (Patreon)

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Ahsoka 1x04 "Part Four: Fallen Jedi" Reaction

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Ryan

And I can't believe I didn't bring this up before: apparently Ursa and Tristan were killed in the bombing of Mandalore! Seeing as we only have Baylan's word on that, I'm holding out some hope that it isn't true, but then, that's the exact same argument that people made between Empire and Jedi that Vader wasn't really Luke's father.

Thomas Corp
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I have heard about fans holding out hope for Ursa and Tristan. My own thought is that seeing as Baylan prides himself as being a man of his word, he is telling the truth, or at least believes he is telling the truth. I concede it is possible he’s misinformed; thus, he wouldn’t be lying, he’s simply incorrect in what he says. There’s also the line that Neil Gaiman wrote for Lucifer that I came across and have loved despite not yet reading the comics, “They used to call the devil the father of lies. But for someone whose sin is meant to be pride, you’d think that lying would leave something of a sour taste. So, my theory is that when the devil wants to get something out of you, he doesn’t lie at all. He tells you the exact, literal truth. And he lets you find your own way to Hell.” You see that a lot with the Emperor in that most of his manipulations of Anakin especially, he rarely if ever lies. He often omits key details and/or has rather inventive versions of the truth which he shares with Anakin, yet, again, rarely does the Emperor ever outright lie in those scenes. Though it is interesting we have a repeat of fans holding out hope that the villain is lying ala the whole Empire, “No. I am your father.” situation, which is why Lucas had Yoda and later Obi-Wan confirm the truth in Jedi.

Ryan
>>126560188

I was amused as hell when I found out how caught off guard Lucas was about that, with so many people including James Earl Jones seriously expecting the next movie to have Obi Wan say "Oh, he was totally just screwing with you there. Sorry about your hand, that was over nothing."

Thomas Corp
>>126560188

I always give credit to James that although he was convinced Vader was being dishonest, he even said his first words upon reading the line were, “He’s lying.” he still sold the lines with the conviction that Vader was telling the truth, which, of course, he was.