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Overanalyzing Korra: Endgame (Patreon)

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Overanalyzing Korra: Endgame

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the8thgear

While it causing other things to get messy rule-wise, I think you missed how Amon was removing bending. He was blocking chakras. There being no airbenders, Korra was his first attempt at removing airbending. Korra could still airbend because Amon had no practice. It also explains not doing it earlier because needing to take an airbender was never part of the plan, nobody knew of Korra. She was still hidden away in her secret Avatar training camp. ...however Amon putting on a show to remove Tenzin's airbending then makes so sense.

the8thgear

Similar to how Aang couldn't bend with his chakras blocked.

Garrett

I've never watched the legend of korra so I hope he does the whole series!

Gavin Young

I feel like the last air bender greatly benefited from the plot resolving around the climax of the 100 year war. It gave the characters a reason to grow as things escalated. That is something Korra doesn’t get which is why in my opinion it feels like the characters don’t have as many opportunities to grow at such a pace air benders characters did.

Maxi Channel

Tarlock said that Amon truly does believe bending is the source of all evil. He's willing to use it as a means to an end.

Manura Ariyathilake

I always thought korra airbending made sense, nothing ever really contradicts this so my idea is that each element has its own chi path, and they need to be active for amon to be able to "feel" them, since korra never really unlocked airbending, there was no active chi path to sense, if the avatar has 4 active chi paths then that also explains how their bending seems to naturally be stonger even outside the avatar state

Kolby J

we're so back

Manura Ariyathilake

I think Korra beating amon makes more sense under the context of the fight, Amon was constantly getting caught off guard and exhausted from being thrown around, so when Amon is at his moment of highest self doubt and Korra at her highest moment of self confidence(in the fight), I can get behind the idea that something like that could weaken the bloodbending grip

Groceries

So the big question now is: is season 2 on the table? You mentioned in the first episode of Korra that you wanted to give season 1 an honest shot. I feel like it was great and would love more!

bervaveli

i agree, hopefully he sees this and decides yes

Barbiewithdilutionfridge

Next up who knows?- I know Season 2 is quite weak, but I would still like to hear your thoughts on it.

Rayan Alam

I think that's what the creators also said and it does kinda make sense, but it would strengthen the finale and the show as a whole if they found a way to clarify it because the large majority of viewers wouldn't even think about that.

stifle97 stifle

yeah, Id love to see him do the whole show. especially season 3.

Marvelous

I think Iroh’s fire and lightning use was used because of the situation like a fire blast wouldn’t have made it through the propeller and he was prone on the wing so he couldn’t lightning bend. Also missed animation, how did the lightning not damage the propeller?

Marvelous

I always thought that the show was saying even though they hated their dad and his ideas cruelty and tried to get away from it Tarloq and Amon both inadvertently attempted to complete their father’s mission because the were brainwashed and the experiences were so traumatic. Tarloq made it to the council to improve Republic City and lowkey rule in his own way and Amon decided bending caused him and his family so much suffering that being as strong as he was he could do something about it and i think being able to literally control another living being would give anyone a God complex

Marvelous

Amon taking Korra’s bending makes sense because if he’s really just using water bending to block certain chi paths or chakras Airbending was already locked and you can’t extra lock an already locked lock. Never had access to it in the first place so you can’t remove access.

Sargent _Carrot69

I would say that the whole fire boost is more like a short term thing. At this point in order to make it make since i\'m pretty much ignoring the comics. We see Azula use this "fire booster" twice, once during the boiling rock where she propels herself on the zipline, and again during Sozin's comet. And ignoring the comics, these things seem like a short bursts of fire that propel you a certain way until your weight overcomes the propulsion, which is why it isn't used that much, not only that, but this kind of move would leave you wide open, so it doesn't have many uses in fights.

Sargent _Carrot69

I would say for her air bending scene, its like a chakra being released. Like she had her fire, water, and earth locked away, but her air was already locked away, so their was nothing to lock. And by unlocking it in that moment, she is able to use a bending that isn't permanently locked away.

Jake N

appreciate your perspective as always and hope to see you finish the series (you’re gonna rip book 2 to shreds)

Apex Fear

Ngl I think season 2 will be mostly your criticism (which I’m looking forward to) but am massively looking forward to season 3 where I feel the show actually picks up and I hope it makes it that far. Much love for making this series even if it doesn’t continue <3

Christopher Shivers

yes avatar the last airbender setup the way bending works. Ppl unlock bending. Remember what the lion turtle said, before the avatar people used to bend the energy within themselves. Aang takes away bending like the lion turtles give and take away bending, through energy. We all know bending has something to do with chi. They also went over this when Aang was learning how to enter the avatar state by unlocking his chi paths. and not to mention chi blocking. Ty Lee can take away bending temporarily through chi blocking. So yes, you unlock bending. Also in avatar the last airbender there was numerous times that ppl used firebending to fly

TheLithp

Most of the things I was going to point out about the first half were already done by other comments, but the show literally does tell you Amon believes his hype. Just last episode, "The revolution may be based on a lie, but I think Amon truly believes bending is the source of all evil." Yes, the "Korra was contemplating suicide theory" is still alive & well. Pointing to the fact that she often sits beside cliffs actually reinforces the point. What does it mean to say she's "reached her lowest point" if this is just something that's happened several times before? Logically, there has to be something more to it than that. If you suspect that she's not just kind of sad, but y'know, they actually showed us that long drop for a reason, then it suddenly makes a lot more sense. She was at the end of her rope & hoping for any other alternative to come along. And so it did. Aang just looks like how Korra's seeing him. It's really not as complicated as you're making it out. Since past Avatars are part of the same Avatar spirit, hence why we see Aang's past lives come out of him in Sozin's Comet, you could technically say this is a representation of Korra energybending herself through the memories of the Avatar State. But either way, it's stated in Book 4 that energybending can be used in the Spirit World anyway. Since energybending is manipulation of spiritual energy. To the conclusion, I think the plot of Book 1: Air is way more interesting than Book 1: Water, even granting that the character arcs aren't quite there. But also, even though they thought they only had one season, we don't actually live in a world where Legend of Korra only has one season. So, it's kind of a moot point that Korra doesn't grow much here because, when taken in the context of her entire character journey, this is just the start. Zuko is a better comparison than Aang. Book 1 Zuko is still very set in his ways, but we know he changes a lot later, especially toward the end of the show. None of Korra's supporting team get quite that same development, but Legend of Korra is different in that it's really zeroing in on the protagonist. So, while I can see some of your points, I do find myself often asking if they're really that significant. Like okay, the city is always empty, & that's really odd if you think about it realistically, but in terms of this being animation, it's pretty obviously a cost-saving measure. Most of those scenes are also supposed to feel really eerie & like our protagonists are isolated, so I really don't think it hurts anything. Or like the bombings, where I guess they could've made it a bit clearer exactly how the airships dropped them or what their targets are, but it's like a 3 second scene & it doesn't really look like he's aiming for the people. I guess one thing I'm not really sure of is if Amon feels he's ready to have Hiroshi abduct Korra, then why is he trying to keep Hiroshi's cover? I'll have to think about that one, but even if it turns out to be a plot hole, I mean it's not like Last Airbender doesn't have its share of "Why didn't the Earth King tell the Gaang he told Azula about the invasion plan?" Oh, & speaking of plans, one thing I almost forgot is that of course Amon's goal is doomed to failure in the long run. I always think this is a really weird criticism because it's like asking why the Nazis thought they could take over the world, or the Soviets, or this empire, or that empire. It's because, as intelligent & forward-thinking as Amon is, he's foremost motivated by his ideology. He has to believe he can take on the rest of the world because that's the only way he can ever cleanse it of bending. But that Amon would ultimately be stopped by something or other isn't the point of the story, it's what are the effects he has NOW & can Korra stop him HERE? But while I disagree on a lot, I will say I enjoyed Overanalyzing Korra so far. If Overanalyzing Book 2: Spirits would have similar energy, then I'd love to see it.

TheLithp

I think what throws people off is he talks about "ruling the city," but the more important lines are "I was to be the city's savior" & "I thought I was better than my father." Tarrlok is supposed to seem like a sleazy, power-hungry politician at first, but the ultimate reason he's doing all of this is supposed to be that he's trying to be a hero. But in trying to prove how not like his father is, he's blind to the fact that he's becoming exactly like him. And this is because, going along with what you said, even though they don't like or agree with Yakone, they can't help but being shaped by the fact that his ideals were drilled into them in their formative years. So, they're still prone to seeing things in terms like "if I just had enough power, I could make the world do what I want it to do." It's tragically not uncommon for people to have similar "I won't turn out like my parents, oh god, I'm turning out just like my parents" experiences, albeit not to the extent of trying to take over a city.

TheLithp

If you think of Amon as blocking chi paths, Amon can only block a path that is already unblocked, which is why he can't block Korra's airbending. The reason he puts on a show to remove Tenzin's bending is that removing an element from the world will be a massive morale boost to his troops, so he wants to make an event of it. Of course, we know he's not technically removing it for good since they can still have children, but the Equalists don't know that.

TheLithp

Yeah, I think they could've shown it better, but we do get hints throughout the show that bloodbending isn't omnipotent. The lieutenant isn't a waterbender, but he could move while Tarrlok was bloodbending him just a little bit more than the other Equalists, clearly because he's supposed to be the strongest of their fighters next to Amon. If there were a few small changes to the scene to make it a bit more obvious that Amon was struggling with his bloodbending & Korra's moves a bit less exaggerated, it would've been perfect.

Manura Ariyathilake

I gotta give u props for this comment, You've said basically every negative thing I've been feeling about this series so far, I should clarify that I am overall enjoying this series despite the parts I disagree with, I do feel that his criticisms on book 1 has been a little unfair at times, I hope he is more fair on book 2 but then again, book 2 is book 2 so that's unlikely.

TheLithp

Thanks, & I get what you mean about enjoying the series despite thinking a lot of criticism is unfair. It's an odd feeling to try to communicate, & I'm not entirely sure I did it justice. Like you say, I think the big trouble is next would be Book 2, so if people tend to dial criticism of Korra up to 10 (but Overanalyzing Avatar did more of a 7 or 8), people tend to take criticism of Book 2 up to 11, if that makes any sense. There were at least two other channels that tried doing Overanalyzing Korra, & I remember Book 2 being very hard to get through in both cases because it's just not all that fun to listen to people complain about everything.

KiwiAnonDA

Awesome video! Especially good work in the “taking away bending” segment. It seems a lot of people in the comments completely missed your point on that one, as well as Amon’s motivations being mostly speculation from the audience’s pov. Very excited for season 2!

Thomas Cassidy

I want you to know as a fellow Canadian Adult viewer of ATLA and TLoK that you material around them is one of the only things I have consumed that has made me need to literally stop the video because I was laughing so hard I was about to pee or needed air. You are hitting the nail on the head with me at least.

gamebuster800

thanks for the videos! I'll be back when Season 2 starts. See ya!

Arden Foxx

I think what you said about the worldbuilding in ATLA vs Korra is very accurate. In ATLA we go to a new place and meet new people basically every episode. The world feels like it’s teeming with life and it’s begging to be explored. Korra’s first season takes that, gives us new pretty meh characters to watch run around in a drab city they barely explore or interact with. In ATLA extra characters drove the problems the main cast had to solve so they could grow. The Kormabosami show just sort of subsumes that and the problems the main cast face are either each other or Amon.

KiwiAnonDA

There “being some more to it” doesn’t mean she was suicidal. That’s a much larger leap than “she is extremely distraught over losing her bending and is absorbing miserable.”

TheLithp

Well, firstly, the counterevidence against her being suicidal was to say that she normally goes to cliffsides when she's upset, so to then be like "she's extra special upset" is contradicting logic. Are we saying that scene was normal for her, or are we saying it's not? If it's not, in what way, specifically? "Extremely distraught" is too vague to sufficiently explain what "lowest point" actually means & why it opens her up to the past lives. But it seems to me that you don't get much lower than questioning if you want to live anymore, & it makes perfect sense from several angles why this would awaken her connection with her past lives. You could look at it in terms of being closer to death, or the recurring theme of detachment as awakening spiritual abilities, or it being a cry for help. Any or perhaps some combination of these would account for why she's suddenly open to something she has never has been before in a way that's much clearer & better established than some vague "level of sadness." Because the closest thing I can think of to establishing that being very sad can awaken spiritual abilities is Aang activating the Avatar State upon seeing that his people were all killed. But even if we ignore how this overlaps with the much better-established pattern that RAGE makes him awaken the Avatar State, & also that this didn't really get him in touch with the past lives at all, we still have that this is a specific type of deep sadness that involves mortality & how to move on from it. And as it turns out, there's even clearer precedent for near death experiences unlocking the past lives considering Kyoshi is finally able to contact Kuruk in Shadow of Kyoshi by diving into the ocean & almost drowning, reasoning that she'll either contact him or die trying. You also have to consider evidence of author intent. Again, the scene with the tear dropping serves no purpose but to show us how long that drop is. It beggars belief that they just put some random scene in there without any thought to what it would imply to the audience. I guess you could argue it was some metaphor, like a way to visualize how low she feels, but there are a lot of ways to do this that aren't specifically a drop off of a cliff. So, again, we come to the problem of why, specifically, this is represented by a drop off of a cliff: What does that mean? Sometimes art requires interpretation, especially if it's dealing with subject matter too heavy for the censors. A "larger leap in logic" is justified if a smaller one doesn't explain things nearly as well. Because sure, you can barely move at all from what the scene literally tells you, but if that explains little to nothing, maybe that's a sign to go deeper because it's trying to tell you something it can't just say outright. This is all the more true when we can gather supporting evidence justifying the concept. It's also not like people haven't made huge assumptions for less. The whole idea that people use a weaker form of lightning generation that is faster but less fatal isn't said anywhere in canon, & if we grant it exists, then it also just seems to come out of nowhere. We could very easily just assume it's not that lightning has changed but that it's a combination of luck & other factors that have allowed people to survive the lightning blasts. But since many people, including Overanalyzing Avatar, don't consider that a satisfying explanation, we instead get the assumption of this "lesser form of lightning."

Evan Schwartz

YOU ARE THE REALEST ABT AMON BEING A LET DOWN. crazy how Korra like straight up has these really cool elevator pitches that they just fail to deliver on yk? absoluetly bonkers. coocoobanana cocopuffs. absolutely bootyballs popeyes.

SC

To be fair to Amon, he’s never done his hocus pocus on an Avatar. Can we really blame him for missing a bit?

Toke

The Avatar might be one of the biggest plot armors in history in most forms of media, but I don't believe Amon is using the same ability as Aang does when taking away bending. While Amon is physically taking away bending, I believe the avatar is taking it away more spiritually. Furthermore Amon has yet show he knows exactly how to take airbending away yet at all never having done the technique to an airbender, maybe furthering his reason for being so hesitant to attack the air nomads sooner to begin with. Now granted I don't want to give the writers too much credit, with how the majority of the season was, but I digress. love the series.