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Sacred Symbols+, Episode 434 | Sacred Symbols x Defining Duke: The Nexus of the Universe (Patreon)

Published:
2025-02-01 17:00:17
Edited:
2025-02-19 21:00:15
Imported:
2026-06
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Welcome back to another episode of Sacred Symbols x Defining Duke, our Sacred+ sub-program dedicated to an occasional meeting of the minds. As such, Colin, Dustin, and Chris are joined by Matty and Cog, and the approach this week is twofold. For starters, let's get into Xbox's ever-evolving market situation, its amazing software sales accompanying precipitously-declining hardware numbers. What's the future hold? Then, speaking of the future, it's time to then delve into PlayStation's games-as-a-service meltdown, and how Sony may (or may not) be able to pull-up before it smashes the entire operation into the side of a mountain. Will it ever find success in such a vital sector?

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Tom G

The pinnacle of LSM content has returned!! Yesss

Machine-Xp

Why buy an Xbox or why use the Xbox ecosystem/platform?? Here's why some would still prefer Xbox or to still use one Xboxs VP of next gen has stated plans to combine the best of windows and Xbox for Current windows PCs ad well as next gen hardware for Xbox Ease of use of an Xbox/console, access to PC/windows apps and software, native access to a premium top tier sub service w/ loads of day1 releases, access to steam library (aka games that miss xbox), benefits and features of the Xbox/MS ecosystem like play anywhere - cross buy, cross play, cross save, cross progression, playing the games across console, PC, handheld, and the cloud, acess to multiple stores fronts, more customized experience, hardware some may preferr (controller) ...notice how I didn't say anything about exclusive games 🤔

thesonofit

No XBOX without a Box MS' inconsistent vision and messaging and lack of commitment in regards to the XBOX console, which is the basis for the brand, will put them in a position of having to logically cancel the brand in the end. MS will continue to shovel money by the boat loads from publishing games but the brand XBOX will be completely destroyed without a box anyone is willing to commit to at the top of the company. I like PS and XBOX for different reasons and both appeal to me, but ever since they came out with the "everything is an XBOX" nonsense I lost the last bit of faith I had in them and stopped purchasing games for the ecosystem. I just can't deal with their flip flopping silliness anymore.

thesonofit

Matty's point on the actual impact on the creators, human beings, which are the first having to suffer from bad management decisions of being allocated to unfitting or stupid projects, can't be repeated often enough I feel. I've never heard anyone talking about how they must feel, ever. Truly tastefully and intelligently creative people are game devs and console makers' most precious resource. Treat them accordingly. Don't waste years of their lives on silly projects and put them to work at a project where they can excell.

Big titty drinker

lol at Colin thinking the majority of people hate horizon. Their wallets kinda scream the opposite along with the metacritic scores. I think Colin puts way to much stock into really loud horizon haters like jaffe / twitter. Like saying most people don’t think horizon is a good game just isn’t congruent with reality from a commercial or critical standpoint.

Phil

I know you probably won't read this Colin, but if I understood that you are literally bicep curling 40 pounds, it's not good at your size. The bicep is a very small muscle that is meant to be used in conjunction with your back muscles to pull. Isolating it in a bicep curl will likely lead to some kind of tendonitis

Diddy’s Dong Quest

The whole “Sony is tired of making 300 million dollar games and not making a big enough profit” is so frustrating. It’s true, but frustrating. I highly doubt any consumers NEED their games to have the cutting edge visual and audio tech anymore. Games don’t need to be anything more than what they were in 2018-2020.

Mysterious Narrator

On the topic of a new xbox hosting other launchers. The key to access those launchers would be to force a subscription to gamepass. Similar to the 360 days of needing gold to access Netflix.

Big titty drinker

Also matty makes an excellent point about games releasing on top of each other. That shit kills half the games that come out. Like why are we releasing multiple 80 hour plus games in the same month on top of each other. And then wondering why only one sells well…

Kenneth Fox

$800 for health insurance for two people is INSANE. I can’t imagine paying that much.

Matt Llewellyn

Dietary cholesterol does not equal blood cholesterol. Cutting out eggs is crazy. Eggs are one of the healthiest foods you can have.

Simmo

I think the next xbox will be completely modular offering with third parties being able to sell custom parts for it. They cant just sell another black box it will be a disaster. Imagine being able to build your own console in the design lab like they do controllers. It will bridge the gap between traditional console gaming and a PC gaming with a completely flexible hardware approach without all the technical hassle

Mark Michaels

At 36:30 how does no one see the fact that you all do not represent all of gamers. You play on PC, a lot of people don’t. You’re sitting there saying there is no benefit like the Xbox console isn’t the only console you can play all of those games day 1 natively included in the subscription. While on PS5 you are going to pay. There is a huge value there. For those of us that prefer gaming on our comfy sofas and chairs and not sitting at a desk there is a reason to buy the console. This gen I have played a ton of games on GamePass some of which I would have never tried until they were in deep discount. Some of which I would’ve paid 70.00 for. Because games are your job you completely discount this. Yes it’s going be a smaller use case & it means nothing to a casual but there is a common sense reason. Having listened further Dustin touches on this and wonders why despite the value are people not going to Xbox. The main reason for this is because they don’t market it. That’s on purpose too. They don’t actually want everyone to know you can go to GamePass to get these games like COD if people will pay for them. They are right now playing both sides. They have never went all in on marketing GamePass or even Xbox in years.

Wayde

Most people buy 1k phones over 12-36mth payments. A 1k xbox would be a niche platform at best

Chase Carter

Someone tell Colin 40lbs is too much to curl with little boy arms, if you have to swing the dumbell its too heavy.. Lower the weight to 25lbs and do slow controlled movements. Youtube search "RP Bicep Workout"

Kevin Cooper

One of the main sales drivers for Xbox games on Playstation will be from previous Xbox owners that migrated to Playstation during the PS4/PS5 launches. Now they can buy/play many of the franchises that they thought they left behind at the time.

Bailey Callis

I wish Dustin would speak a little more in general

Glen Yelenovic

Submarine pitchers never have arm issues. Its the normal over hand pitchers that need Tommy John’s

Aaron

Xbox series S is the cheapest entry point for people to come in and play GTA 6

Cotten

Love the Sacred x Dukes episodes usually are my favorite ones every time good stuff!