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Sacred Symbols, Episode 348 | Warning Brothers (Video) (Patreon)

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2025-02-28 17:00:19
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Warning Brothers | Sacred Symbols, Episode 348

In 2022, approximately 8,500 people lost their jobs in the games industry. In 2023, that number rose to 10,500, and just last year it ballooned to an unfathomable 14,600. Will it be worse this year? That's currently unknowable, but one thing's certain: Industry playing and spending habits are radically changing, and the newest victim of the environment (and loads of really bad choices along the way) is Warner Bros. Games, which shut down three studios (including the vaunted team Monolith Productions, cancelling its Wonder Woman project in the process) while declaring it's all-in on very specific IP, but nothing more. Is WB Games' meltdown a cautionary tale? Or is it a simple example of more-of-the-same? With seven out of 10 PlayStation 5 players playing at least one of the 10 most popular games on the platform -- and with an astonishing 40% of playtime on PS4 and PS5 spent with those 10 games, and those 10 games alone -- we are nearing an inflection point. There are too many people making too many games alongside too little interest in much of what's being released, and frankly, the bloodletting is nowhere near finished. We discuss. Plus: PSVR2 gets a major price cut, THPS 3+4 Remastered leaks via ratings, Black Myth: Wukong sells huge on PlayStation 5, Sony-published Midnight Murder Club gets a release date, and more. Then: Inquiries from our beloved listeners. How hyped are we for Death Stranding 2? What do we make of the rumors of a God of War-related announcement slated for March? Could we define the term "Eurojank"? Will Chris ever get another haircut again in his entire life? Follow the hosts! Colin: https://x.com/longislandviper Chris: https://x.com/ChrisRGun Dustin: https://x.com/DustinCanFly A new episode of Sacred Symbols: A PlayStation Podcast launches each Friday morning. To receive instant access, as well as other perks, please support the show on: https://www.patreon.com/LastStandMedia 0:00:00 - Intro 0:28:36 - Colin's lower octave 0:36:39 - Does Chris need a haircut? 0:42:10 - Imagine Dragons in space 0:46:06 - Colonoscopy customer service 0:51:59 - Ohio slander 0:59:20 - PSVR2 price cut 1:10:43 - Sony stashing PS5s in US 1:23:43 - 40% of playtime is on 10 live service games 1:34:52 - Sony sued over PSN digital monopoly 1:43:11 - THPS 3+4 1:48:40 - Konami and Bloober sign a new deal 1:54:44 - Black Myth: Wukong sold 5 million copies on PS5 1:57:27 - Midnight Murder Club is coming to early access 2:05:18 - What Are We Playing? 2:21:52 - Chaos at WB Games 3:14:25 - PS Plus Essentials 3:27:43 - Circana January stats 3:33:00 - Death Stranding 2 Special Edition extras 3:37:06 - God of War returning 3:40:40 - Did Quantic Dream get away? 3:47:11 - Everything is a meta-verse 3:54:07 - Addicted to maps 3:58:30 - Eurojank

Comments

Misanthropic_Altruist

Hearing the name Djarum brings me back. I must've cut my life expectancy by half chain-smoking that shit.

Bisexual Lighting Rigger

Lots of games here in Canada are more expensive digitally than if you buy physically on launch. It seems like its mostly Japanese games that do this shit. The standard price for a game is 89.99 Canadian. Right now FF7 Rebirth is 93.49 digitally. Even though its not much its the principal of it. I'm going to buy the cheaper, more versatile and re-sellable version of the game every time.

Max Davis

Is chris partial hosting new? First time I’ve heard him do it and it is fantastic. I love hearing his takes and I think he knocked this out of the park leading the convo here.

Walker Simmons

The nemesis system was so dope. You could kill an orc with fire and he'd come back with a burnt face and extra pissed or cut off there arm and they'd return with a metal arm and ambush you. One orc I met only spoke with song lyrics I always spared him because I looked forward to his encounters

Envydiel

He hosts his own show, the snark tank. I tried to give it a watch but his co hosts on that show aren't my cup of tea.

Seth

I used to love that Podcast but literally every episode lately is just them talking shit about other people with different opinions. They just find a person and call them Grifters and idiots for an hour and a half. That's the whole show. It's very California scumbag love the smell of your own farts vibes which is a shame because Sween and Chris are hilarious together and always have been.

Stal

I use to be a massive magic the gathering fan I was even playing a tournaments in the competitive field. After all of the cross overs started flooding the game and Wizards of the Coast Refered to its own sets as "Magic IP" sets during a road map on what's coming next I decided to move on from the game I once loved as it had become cross over the card game. A damn shame

Xbox's Sloppy Seconds

In Poland new games are usually more expensive in the PS Store vs physical releases although nothing as dramatic as 40% brought up during the show. One more item - Cyberpunk 2077 had to be first person due to performance issues. I don't believe the Team at CDP Red would manage to get it into a launchable state with 3rd person camera.

Germanos

The fact that the '40% topic' was just pretty much shrugged off by Chris and Dustin, tells me everything I need to know, about how deep their understanding of the industry goes. I entirely agree with how stunned Colin was by that number. This is devastating for video games. Our industry was living on gamers playing new games constantly, but for the most part, BUYING NEW STUFF REGULARLY. It is essential to the existence of our hobby - the money needs to flow from one creator to another, continuously spent, turned into new product and the process loops. Now we see that most of the time (and by that money) stops at a fraction of entities. Layoffs, closures, cancelled games, live service push - this is the core of the "problem". What the hell do you mean by: "I need more data on this", "Is Gran Turismo part of it?" ?! Christ sake.

Germanos

What does a company mean by saying 'game X did not meat our expectations'? Well, it means they spent Y amount on it, and were expecting to get Z from it, and the outcome was below Z.

Germanos

I don't seem to get the question, Colin. What do you mean by asking: "What is enough?", when it is never enough in product development. In every company, the lines must go up. YoY every company's revenue needs to increase, it's so common for me and I do believe everyone who worked in companies. People in the indie team get older. Their financial expectations change. Start families. Want bigger flats. Want better cars. Want to afford better places to spend on holidays. Would like to eat better. It never ends. There is no 'enough'.

DavidHayter

O man I don’t like the sound of that at all. Hosting needs to be done by Colin!

spicesandverbs

Dear Colin, Stand down on the shirts comment. Not everyone is sardine sized. I'm 6ft 6 inches. The hell am I gonna do with a shmedium tee? XOXO

MATTKBAN

After 55 minutes Chris mentions the Mini-ha-ha boat ride- that’s actually in Lake George, NY. Not far from my town. Very cool 8)

Surge!

Oooff, Avatar is the least of the atrocities to have emerged out of the magic the gathering crossover world. I submit to the jury to look at the Jeff Goldblum Jurassic Park cards. Now there's a scene.

Jordan Dunn

Colin, just play one of the shadow of mordor games. considering your passion for single player games and LotR, its a no brainer. experiencing the nemesis system is worthwhile, you dont even need to finish the game if it really doesnt strike a chord with you. play 5-10 hrs to see how enemies rise or fall in the ranks and how they interact with you over multiple encounters. the system would be a great fit for any game with an army of enemies, or mafia/yakuza style game.