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Sacred Symbols+, Episode 458 | Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 Spoilercast and Review Discussion (Video) (Patreon)

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2025-05-24 16:01:05
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Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 Spoilercast and Review Discussion | Sacred Symbols+, Episode 458

Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 has created a dramatic splash, earning high praise from both critics and players alike. With its unique store, incredible music and tight combat, there's a lot to love. So what do we think? Join me (Dustin), Hoeg, Cog, and Chris to break it all down.

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Matt Millard

I am really glad that there are people like Hoeg willing to push back and be a little more critical of this game. It’s a great game and deserves its flowers, but I think the narrative around it has gotten a bit out of control. It’s not a perfect game and it’s okay to talk about why lol. Personally, I loved it, but KCD2 was a more special game for me. Also, there are just too many big games left in the year like DS2 and Ghost of Yotei to even begin declaring a GOTY, so people need to chill lol.

Walker Simmons

I think the world being "fake" brings up an interesting question. Let's say in real life you find out every friend you've made, your wife all the good things etc aren't real and you could return to a much sadder reality. Reminds me of a wizard of Oz or matrix scenario. I think I'd rather stay where I'm happy despite knowing it's "fake" stay in that fantasy long enough and it becomes your reality. It would be hard to accept that fact and erase everything

Jim60

Why is bottom right guy shouting so much!

Watch Ergo Proxy

Patreon once again ruins something that worked fine before. Now when I click the little youtube logo to open it in the app and save for later, it opens a browser tab. Apocalyptic levels of dookie.

Levelupbrady

Hey, just wanted to share some quick feedback. I know everyone brings their own style and energy, and I totally respect that. That said, I found it really hard to listen to this episode because there was a lot of yelling by Hoeg and constant interruptions by Hoeg. It actually got to the point where I had to turn it off, which is a first for me. I really don’t want to sound negative, and maybe it’s just me (lol), but I think it would help if things were a bit more balanced in the future. I absolutely love you guys and appreciate all the work you put in, keep it up! 💛

Threadzilla

Very well said. I feel the exact same.

Winston G McDaniel

To add on to this as a point of feedback - I agree. Hoag is one of my favorite guests on the show and I'm instantly interested in whatever content he's on. However, I do think he dominated the discussion too much here, and it felt like it took the wind out of the sails of the other speakers.

Peter

Just wanted to say shout out to Hoeg , I have the same issues with the story of E33 but I still think it’s a good game. Don’t listen to the haters keep doing your thing man

Nicholas Guarente

Sadly I am much more interested in what will come in the 2nd spoilercast as Hoeg dominates this one far too much. I really want to hear what the others have to say just as much as Hoeg, but he doesn't leave enough oxygen.

Kevin

I felt the exact same way as Hoeg.

Orchard

Hoeg is an incredibly articulate speaker, and obviously passionate. I do unfortunately wish he was as good a listener.

ErrantRob

I loved listening to this; if I can offer feedback on it I have one thing: next spoilercast please have at least one person who has finished the endgame content and even saw some of the developer comments. There were some plot points made and gameplay points made that seemed to completely miss the mark and would have benefited from more knowledge of the end game

Parangariku tirimiquaro

Still can't find the game physical at Gamestop. Going for $100 at Amazon. Saw a $1,500 listing for the collector's edition.

Gareth Rigden

I ended skipping Hoeg parts, way too heavy handed, felt like he wanted convince everyone one it was bad.

Lalo Vargas

Hoeg might have valid points and interesting perspectives but he absolutely killed the vibe and conversation.

EvanThePoet

It sucks with how much I was looking foreword to the talk about this game and the moral points that this cast would have on aspects of this world and narrative, but to have the conversation dominated by someone so absent of what the game was trying to say was such a bummer. I loved the way Cog would go in depth on areas he didn’t overly like with nice points, how Dustin and Chris bring this story into their lives, and just get the other front not fully understanding the narrative concepts. Really looking foreword to the second spoilercast.

Chrispy

This is something that pisses me off on ios all the time with multiple apps. They open youtube in a safari window first and THEN ask me if I want to open it in the app. Just open every single youtube link through the app, is that so damn hard??

Timothy Horvath

“Don’t listen to the haters”…you are the haters lol The criticism isn’t invalid; however, it comes down to not allowing yourself suspend disbelief.

Timothy Horvath

It’s interesting, I don’t exactly disagree with Hoeg; however, for some of the reasons he didn’t like the story, I actually liked it! I loved the conundrum of the world being a work of fiction but the people feeling real and how you grapple if that is enough to be “real”. I also love that so much is up for interpretation and less told to you.

D

Would have enjoyed hearing from the other 3 hosts. Did not appreciate the monologue that was 80% of this "discussion".

K. Huntington

i hate skill trees with the passion of 1000 suns, so i honestly didn't even notice gustaves tree was limited, because i don't think i even looked at his skill tree 😅

Joe

First time, long time. I should maybe give you guys more praise for the great job you’ve done. However, this was the first Sacred Symbols anything I could not finish. It felt like a Fox News or CNN panel where one person was raving mad and had to be right about everything. Constantly cutting off other hosts to the point where they had to say “stop” “wait” and “hold on” repeatedly. I have to deal with people like this in my professional life so this wasn’t fun, it felt like a bad day at work. I really hope the second one gives this game the chance it deserves.

getreadytolearnchinesebuddy

I generally like Hoeg but this was incredibly annoying, he just kept going on about what he wants in a game and kept interrupting people and made this so much less fun to listen to after having such a fun experience with this game and wanting to hear a more engaging discussion. It generally turned me off so much that I just didn't even want to listen to this spoiler cast after the first hour.

DonglerofThaShnutz

Man i was looking so forward to the spoilercast but Hoeg really just interrupted everyone wayyyy too much. When even Cog has to say “hold up- let me finish” you know it’s too much. Also- Hoeg is literally just yelling into his mic. It was a very hard listen unfortunately. Looking forward to a second spoilercast where everyone actually gets time to talk.

Bobby Knuckles

I don’t think it’s hyperbolic to say Hoeg ruined this episode. I would have really liked to hear more from everyone else and it’s a shame that Hoeg not only dominated the share of the episode time wise, but also flavored the entire thing with bitterness.

Denver Walker

You guys need to chill out. Hoeg is spot-on about 90% of the game's flaws, but it feels like you can't breathe beyond your front porch without someone filling your lungs first. I'm not surprised the game is so popular—the statistics speak for themselves. It’s shocking, makes you feel like you got it when you need to get it, and people love feeling like they’re part of that big something. They spelled everything out for you from the first beat, and you picked right up on it when it mattered most. Simplicity makes the loudest fart but those with no stench ain't left much longer to stink... Something like that? If you haven't played any other JRPGs, this might be the cat that hung your coat. But for folks who have? Whaaaat? I’m sitting back here, unbuckled, hoping Dad decided to crush a few before the road trip when I hear some of the praise this game has gotten—especially from people who’ve played better JRPGs, and not that long ago. You all need good games in your life. Some of you had it with Metaphor but this is the one that found it's way down your panties, I guess? I’m getting sick of people shutting out others opinions just because they don’t align with the wider audience. Hoeg has fat man balls. He’s not afraid to grease up the fattest pole in the room and squat down even if that means he'll be met with other unwanted (the fuck am I saying here??) poles. If you have any storytelling sense, you should’ve cracked this tale wide open before leaving the prologue. Fine story, great combat—that’s about it. Not one of the greatest made and fucking bizarre so many think so. Fuck the police and Hoeg is right! ((The cops are cool by us, I’m just typing things out while I work.))

Max Davis

Dustin hit the nail on the head! The character's aren't real Hoeg, but neither is any character in any game or story ever, and yet they evoke these amazing emotions from us. The emotions of love and grief and excitement. Those emotions are the same no matter where they come from. In that way, Verso is no more real than Maelle, even within the context of the game's world. At least to me. Although i also 10000% want to also get the alternate version of the game where the paintress was "real" and so was the entire world.