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Sacred Symbols, Episode 367 | Here We Go, Down That Same Old Road Again (Patreon)

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2025-07-11 16:00:31
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2026-06
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If you're tired of The Last of Us, well, it's really too bad. That's because Naughty Dog has updated The Last of Us: Part II yet again, this time with a so-called Chronological Mode that orders the game's chapters and subchapters sequentially. It's easy to mock this many updates, of course, but in reality, is Sony going above-and-beyond in keeping some of its older games alive? Shouldn't we applaud the years-long dedication to not only The Last of Us, but to God of War, Ghost of Tsushima, Days Gone, Horizon, and others? We discuss. Then: Twisted Metal's second season on Peacock gets a new trailer, STALKER 2 is finally confirmed for PlayStation 5, Final Fantasy IX Remake may be in trouble, Capcom acknowledges Mega Man, and more. Plus: Listener inquiries! If we could only play a single game-as-a-service, which would it be? Could gaming be entering a more serious phase, as the industry finds itself fused more with education? Is it crazy to play sequels without having experienced the original? What are the percentage odds Colin is on the precipice of becoming a Kingdom Hearts superfan?Timestamps:0:00:00 - Intro

0:25:36 - Favorite color and number

0:26:16 - Furries

0:35:30 - Hot dog advice

0:48:36 - Sacred vernacular

0:53:57 - Fawn-ta

0:58:34 - Kingdom Hearts Stockholm syndrome

1:05:21 - Upcoming Games list

1:07:14 - Last of us Part II Chronological mode

1:18:00 - Twisted Metal Season 2

1:22:34 - STALKER 2 is coming to PS5

1:28:26 - Is FFIX Remake canceled?

1:38:32 - Capcom comments on Mega Man

1:48:25 - SAG-AFTRA strike is over

1:57:14 - The industry's statement on Stop Killing Games

2:13:08 - New PS+ Games

2:23:42 - May Circana

2:30:55 - May PSN sales

2:37:01 - PS4 Firmware update

2:42:39 - What Are We Playing? (Death Stranding 2, Peak)

3:15:17 - Gaming attention span

3:28:38 - Picking one live service game

3:33:23 - Sequels that clicked

3:39:15 - Does our jobs make us enjoy games less?

3:51:11 - New concurrent player count record

3:59:35 - Video games in education

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Comments

MetalhedX

"If I don't bust your balls, it probably means I don't like you." I tell people the same thing constantly. The closer the relationship, the harder it gets. 😆 🤣

Dante B

No matter how hard he tries, Dustin will never convince me that playing Overwatch will be remotely on the same level of painful as Colin playing Kingdom Hearts.

Girth Brooks

I’m sorry but if you’re above the age of 5 and put ketchup on a hotdog you need to be in jail.

FlynnTaggartGuy

Hadn’t gotten to Part 2 Remastered yet, so chronological was a nice surprise! Its been interesting so far.

Wick3d3nd3r

Is Colin’s favorite number 14 because 3+11?

Chris B

This man and his hatred of mustard. If I see someone put ketchup on a hotdog or brat, they are kicked out of the cook out 🤣 Nah, you guys would still be welcome

Jake Z

Colin, you might be interested in a book about the history of the Luddites I recently read called Blood in the Machine by Brian Merchant. It's very good

Alec Rock

I gotta echo Colin’s frustration with Genki lmao overall a great follow but FUCK that Astro Bot spoiler annoyed me.

Shadi Haddad

I saw the AstroBot update went live early in the morning and immediately went to do the levels before work because I knew someone would spoil the bots. I've been waiting for those bots since launch and as soon as I finished the levels, there they were at 7am all over Twitter.

Frank

Ever since DS2 came out I’ve been muting a lot of people on Twitter. Genki and Gene both have been for me.

Soulful Bison

Risk of rain 2 is worth it simply for the soundtrack

LastStandMedia

No, it's because I was born on the 14th. But that's a solid theory, I admit. -Colin

Anibuddies: An Anime Podcast

I've never felt more seen than when Dustin mentioned eating taco bell while listening to the persona soundtrack

Adam Barnes

Dustin’s a slut for a slot dog

Michael Thew

I, The Royal "we"! You know, the editorial... -The Dude.

FlynnTaggartGuy

Hard to avoid that situation when your dad is Satan

Josh Ashley

Yo, as a 39yr old florida man, colin scolding the dude about "royal you(we/us/them)" was tough. Ive never heard it aside of literally you colin (and maybe chris) Most American English speakers would say "you 'in general'" Relax. No one says "royal you"

Wayde

Should invest in a smoker way better than gas or charcoal

Dustin Furman

I would like to get a smoker, but gas is great for grilling dinner 3-4 nights a week. Maybe I'll get both at some point. -Dustin

Wayde

During the summer, I use my smoker 4+ times a week. Even during the winter when its 2 degrees out and snowing tbh. It heats up just as quick as a gas grill. From the time that I turn it on to the time that it's heated up is less than five minutes usually.

Michael McCoy

I’ll chime in here to attest that playing Overwatch is much, much, much worse than KH. Especially because Dustin is gonna be playing ranked, which is one of the nine circles of hell

GetNoct

I'll permanently move up patron tiers if Colin streams his KH playthrough.

Girth Brooks

This is the most terrifying thing I’ve ever witnessed. 40 year olds still putting ketchup on hot dogs. Our culture really needs to bring back shame.

Dudley

I can remember Colin putting 9 right behind 4 and 6, then behind 7 too when he replayed it and the remakes, which is another example of his rankings of them changing. I like that about the series, they all have their differences. PS- Colin, I know you aren’t a fan of ff12 but I honestly think you’d like it a lot more if you replayed, especially the ps4 version that uses the job system.

Envydiel

Stop killing games is simply arguing for developers moving forward to include an end of life plan into their online game to activate after the servers go down. E.g. Destiny 3 goes offline, but now people who bought the game get a .exe that'll run the game locally offline in a stagnant state so you can play the campaigns.

Otacon

Dustin when informing Colin about 5 staring each terminal you didn't mention that he should check “share cargo with other porters” everytime you go to a terminal. Get lost packages from there. Even if you can't carry anymore or want to deliver them put them in the “Facility Storage” to come back later. Over time it will refresh what is in the Share Cargo and can add more to the Storage so when you come back you can bank 30 packages.

LR INT Kid Buu

Genuinely bummed me the fuck out. Some of the characters I wanted in the game desperately and it sucked the joy out of seeing them without having any prior knowledge.

WhatDarrenPlays

The stop killing games talk was so infuriating to listen to. It’s super simple: When a publisher plans to sunset an online game, they have to make it available offline, or provide a way for people to run their own servers. There’s no “security risk” in people who choose to run their own servers, and people who choose to partake in an unofficial version of the game. Everyone is a willing, opt-in participant at that point. And yes, even MMO’s can provide this, many people run these types of servers for fully online games already. Stop Killing Games is just asking that the publisher’s who don’t allow that, do. I’m a programmer, I worked at AAA studio for 3 years, and I work for an indie game right now. It is true that it’s an extra cost developers would have to consider, not massive, but it is extra work. In real terms this would mean they would bake this functionality in from the beginning as a foundation and simply unlock it when they sunset the game. I don’t know why anyone would be against this. I don’t care if people don’t support it, but actively trying to argue against it is strange.

Ryan

The people who overreact about Dustin being sensitive or Colin being actually mean lowkey self report they don’t have friends or know what it’s like to just chop it up

Deemac

Colin's confusion on why soccer/football is so big, and not the likes of hockey, is hilarious. Not much hockey going on in places like South America, Africa, even most of Europe, etc. etc. He's probably joking to some extent, but it's another example of his mind being so enclosed within the USA lol

Lunar Tear

I'd love to hear a knockback with Colin revisiting FF9 as an adult. It has some pretty deep, existential themes that are betrayed by its cutsey aesthetic. For a man who seems to have an affinity for the morose, I can see Colin really vibing with some of what FFIX is really getting at underneath its chibi art, and whimsical world.

Dante B

616 having a stroke trying not to lecture Colin that the reason he doesn’t like Superman is because he doesn’t understand the character.

Supes

you do know it's possible for people to have different tastes in games right? lolz

Dante B

Wow dude I had no idea that’s definitely what I’m saying here lolz lulz teehee

Supes

yeah, it's bizarre. It's iike the most normal way for dudes to interact in my experience. It's just stupid banter, guys mess with each other as a joke and it's all in good fun. Taking it seriously makes it weird.

Adam Barnes

Maybe he’s confused by its popularity because it’s the most boring shit to try and watch. Even fans of it have to start gangs and get into brawls just to get some enjoyment.

Adam Barnes

For real. Discord mod energy coming from those guys

Philip Dunphy

FF9 is great. Really hoping the Remake wasn’t canceled. The first and second act are so strong and the weaving of character storylines are top notch.

Deemac

Lmao, it's fine if it's not for you. But it's incredibly ignorant to try and act like it's not the biggest sport globally, and to be surprised at its popularity (which is well, because it's the biggest sport globally. And most accessible)

TheWubbz

Who told Colin the new Superman isn’t good? Dean Cain? It’s getting great reviews.

paracetamol consumer

Same here. Gene spoils games on Twitter the moment they release. Wasn’t going to let it happen to me for DS2

Anthony Rented

Have none of you gone to a sit down restaurant like Applebees or something local to you and had dinner by yourself? Only asking because although I’ve definitely had Taco Bell in the car by myself before. Dustin seems resigned to ordering in or Taco Bell in the car.

Eisley

You’re right, Collin speaks with such authority about everything but evidently doesn’t know a lot about EVERYTHING he talks about

pbsandwich_

lmao really showing your ignorance here Adam. just say you don't like it and move on. I think golf is boring af but I can understand why others like it

PuppiesOnParade

Fuck it, just make a 4-person sacred symbols crew. Micah belongs here too.

Cole Minder

We don’t expect you to understand the beautiful game Colin

Cole Minder

Just say you’ve never played it and don’t understand it

Max Stahl

There's a Wood Man *and* a Snake Man?

Benji_B2sick

I think forza was a real gap in the market. Gears how ever not so much. It will sell, I’d be surprised if it’s more than Forza though.

Clayton Garrett

That whole attention span/tech/boredom section reminded me of the dual Maynard James Keenan classics, Tool's "Stinkfist" and APC's "Dissilusioned". He's been preaching against this tendency since 1996.

DogMeat

Wasn't the commercial for fanta said like Chris says? Fanta fanta don't ya wanta?

Benji_B2sick

I’ve got the platinum for DS directors cut. And I have no idea of what the story is about.

Glen Yelenovic

I am Italian and have lived on Long Island my entire 41 year life… I have never heard someone with a big head called chowder

Aaron Barnes

Rangers and Celtic fans are like Bloods and Crips

Adam Barnes

It’s cringe how butthurt you guys get over a gay sport. ✌️

Derek Hart

A few years younger than you, from Massachusetts, and I used to hear people say "Chowder head" all the time. Grew up with a ton of Italians but I don't remember it being an Italian thing though 🤷‍♂️

Glen Yelenovic

Makes more sense as a New England thing than Italian

Glen Yelenovic

Yeah, Chris is correct. I remember the commercial well

Benjamin Pope

Love it or hate it, I'm genuinely excited to hear Colin's thoughts on Kingdom Hearts. That will be a fun listen

Pianopower

American wonders why Soccer is the global sport and not their own crap . Lol

NinjaDC

"How can furries afford their suits." From what I understand, furries essentially run the internet in a literal sense. The very high end programming jobs at Google, Apple, Microsoft etc are apparently filled with furries. Anti social super nerds. I recall the person in charge of Pittsburgh's event has a PHD in physics.

Pan Ic

How are you Italian if you've lived your whole life in the US?

WoodyBlock

We have soccer here as well. Just no one watches it because it’s no fun to watch people flop around like fish and cry on the ground for 4 hours 😂 jk. Kinda.