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Sacred Symbols+, Episode 532 | Sacred Symbols x Stop Killing Games (Video) (Patreon)

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2026-08-29 16:01:03
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Sacred Symbols x Stop Killing Games | Sacred Symbols+, Episode 532

It's me, Colin. Please welcome YouTuber, machinima artist, and founder of Stop Killing Games Ross Scott, as well as founder of Alderon Games and project lead of Path of Titans Matthew Cassells to the show. I invited this duo to Sacred+ for a conversation about the aforementioned Stop Killing Games initiative, and indeed, this is one of the most-requested topics for me to cover here over the last few years in particular. Within our winding chat, we discuss the popular gamer-led movement that's attempting to stop publishers and developers from disappearing their games, treating their customers (and their money) with more respect and predictability in the process. But while what's being proposed is simple in premise, it's far more complex in practice. Join us as we talk about the legislative, economic, and populist pressure being leveraged against the powers-that-be in our industry, and how the landscape might change when players themselves assume a more dominant position.

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Homecookedmeals

Are we still getting a sacred plus of the gta 6 extended look or did they decide to cancel that?

LastStandMedia

No, we decided to just fold it into the show. -Colin

TonetheLoc

Just a heads up, all of my LSM shows stopped showing up in my Apple Podcast library. I added SS back but none of the other shows are showing up.

Germanos

Colin, I’m disappointed by this interview. I was really curious to see where the conversation would go and what arguments the SKG group would bring to the table, as I’m very skeptical about the core idea behind the initiative. I kept listening, but I never heard the single most important question I would have asked them: Why? Why should video games be playable indefinitely? I was pulling my hair out hearing so much about "it’d be awesome to show Marathon to someone ten years from now" or "I really love the game and want to keep playing it," but I didn't hear a single strong, rational argument for why. And please, don't tell me it's "just natural" or "self-evident." Comparing this issue to choosing between drinking clean vs. poisoned water is a weak argument. Weak and childish. I spent over 1,500 hours in Destiny, and I knew that eventually, the servers would shut down and the game would become unplayable. The price I paid was for the opportunity to experience those hours. That is simply the nature of online multiplayer games. I spent over 200 hours in Final Fantasy VIII on PS1 as a kid, and I knew that if my PS1 broke, it wasn’t up to Square to ensure I could still play that disc in 2026. Why should it be any different for Marathon? I’m not asking because I want games to die, but because the lack of a strong core argument feels like a missing foundation for the entire SKG movement. Colin, you mentioned recently on an episode that you’re not a populist and that you don’t tell people what they want to hear, but what they need to hear. I respect that completely—I hold that exact same standard in my own content, and I really appreciated when you said that. However, I feel that ever since your account was stolen, you've lost your footing when it comes to digital licensing and ownership rights for non-physical goods. I agree with requiring clear disclaimers about server shutdowns and licensing terms. I agree with shifting the language around buying a license versus buying ownership. I am capable of making informed purchasing decisions, and I know what I’m paying for. We shouldn't shift the responsibility for a lack of buyer awareness onto the developers/publishers. If the vast majority already knows what they're signing up for, let's just make sure everyone knows so they can make their own choices. I really missed some solid pushback in this discussion.

Germanos

OMG... oh my god! Does the guy know that it is not SONY's or CDPR's decision to allow players to buy the game in a GOG-like way so they have a DRM-free license?! How can you lead a movement and not know that it is the game publishers will, to do so or not? Jesus christ.

Andreas Tsiapis

I have very mixed feelings about this one. The two guests had very little to offer apart from feelings based rhetoric, yet they were very “loud” with constant interruptions. Seriously, the interruptions were so annoying and I felt they were trying to “let’s not let Colin get his opinions through, if said opinions don’t match ours” I am sad to say but I think this movement is lacking an actual leader.