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She likes him because he challenges her. And by "likes," I mean she hasn't killed him yet for challenging her. Or for being an arrogant ass. 

No, the story about the MIT/CERN kid isn't Deus's backstory, but it apparently is a not-uncommon arc for child prodigies who grow up surrounded by a bunch of average brain types, then finally settle into some bleeding edge profession, and learn that they're in the 50th percentile of the intelligencia 1%. 

I think exponential intelligence is genuinely incomprehensible, because individuals or groups at one intelligence level really lack the tools to understand a group that's, for instance, ten times as smart. Of course, "ten times" is impossible for us to really quantify anyway, because "ten times" what? The word "intelligence" is really poorly defined in absolute terms. I mean, if you're good at math but can't remember dates and anniversaries, are you smarter than someone who struggles to add 15 and 7, but has an eidetic memory? Or is the world's best astrophysicist smarter than the world's best diplomat? One can figure out what dark energy is, the other can save hundreds of millions of lives by preventing wars. How much does emotional intelligence factor in? Without it, we'd have a world of sociopaths. At a certain point, information throughput becomes a limiting factor. Is a once-in-a-generation genius who secludes himself and occasionally publishes some revolutionary mathematical proof "smarter" than The Machine from Person of Interest (which was a show where a massive supercomputer processed every video and phone call and text message, etc, and alerted the Feds to terrorist plots - which sounds terribly dystopian, but the inventor (the glasses guy from Lost) made it a closed system so the government couldn't use it to spy. The bulk of the episodes revolved around the fact that it could also detect people plotting non-national level crimes like murder, so the inventor put a backdoor in that would spit out a Person of Interest, and they wouldn't know if it was the perpetrator or the victim. Anyway, I thought it was an entertaining show.) You'd probably say that The Machine in this case wasn't intelligent at all, but throughout the series, it demonstrated an ability to learn and had a non-human intelligence that allowed it to stay ahead of the evil government agencies and corporations that wanted to abuse its abilities. 

The point is, actual capitol-S Super intelligence is one of those things that are on Archon's short list of Apocalypse level threats, because it's very likely that the individual with that ability could out plot, plan, and prepare the entirety of the rest of the human race. If Deus built a suit of armor or a rocket powered paraglider and wore a goblin mask so he could rob banks, no one would give a crap about him on the macro level. Instead, he has the resources of a medium-sized-and-growing country and access to alien technology and probably demonic magic. So he's being watched by a lot of agencies and interests. Some think he might become an exploitable resource, but they're dumb. I mean, literally, compared to him, they're very very dumb. Of course, that's not to say he's the only super intelligence on Earth. But most of the known ones are more like Digit. Focused on tangible sciences and engineering, not his broader approach to economics, diplomacy and politics. 

Obviously Deus has some broad-spectrum approach to resisting chemical influence in place. After all, he's the leader of an up-and-coming, expanding nation, and seems to be, on the surface, doing a good job for the people under his administration. And he's making enemies of every surrounding country and eventually he's going to start hitting countries that third parties have financial interests in. Third parties like diamond oligopolies, mining consortia, all kinds of larger criminal organizations, and eventually, whole countries. Not to mention the Alari colony ship. They've agreed to live under his rule, but what that really means is they do whatever they want within their little fiefdom, which amounts to the area they've expanded their ship into, plus some extra land they negotiated with Deus, but outside of that, they're subject to the laws of Galytn. They would immediately assume authority if something "happened" to him. That's assuming they could keep Thothogoth from using Galytn as a foothold for his own conquest, or that either of them could stand up to the Supers in Deus's military.

So Deus has some preventative measures and contingencies in place, they're just not super overt like most comic book Super Smarts do. You know, an army of Deus-bots, or a metal throne room with Kirby-esque pipes and energy fields full of dots that project force fields that can only be deactivated after he delivers a monologue. 

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codesurfer

interesting to think about how he processes the world too since in his example the thing that trips up the kid is experience. How does he deal with information gaps and such. This scene is interesting in general because it answers the question of what happens when he finds something new. We're finding out our BBEG might be doing all of this to fuel his quest for knowledge/experiences. He isn't taking over the world because he wants to be master of the universe, but because he wants to change things so he can have more intellectual stimulus that he can't have currently.

Sharien

hmm when he mentioned complimentary powers as in "super strength comes with the required durability to survive it" in an earlier conversation he was mostly talking about sufficient empathy to not self destruct with super intelligence but i wonder... super mental resilience might be included in that package as well - and that would be very likely to overcome any kind of mental effect...like drugs

Justin

Deus would probably no longer percieve the world the way humans do. His brain would be working like a quantum super computer, simultaneously pulling in, processing, and reacting to information do quickly and completely as to make him effectively alien. I could see it that he IS getting effected up there but he just can process it so fast that the effect lasts for micro seconds. He might even be able to have conscious control over his bodies chemical reactions. In theory her power drug would have to bind to certain receptors to cause it's effects. Meaning that if Deus knows what those are he might be able to force his body to produce it's own chemicals to bind to those receptors in s different way. Like creating his own Narcsn. If that where the case, i wonder what the limits of that power application would be. Could he make himself immune to any drug or chemical compound that works by binding to neuroreceptors? Or could he think himself to being immune to neurotoxin like snake venom? Can he choose to let alcohol affect him or not? Does his brain give him much greater control over his bodies chemical reactions that he can change the way he... Uh... Tastes at will? Or, does he have to go for just obsessive and tactical pre planning and preparation? I mean, he probably does that anyway and since he knows more about the functionality of super powers than any one else he might actually be and to plan for impossible chemicals. I think all three are terrifying in different ways. He just can process even chemical influence that fast. He can purposely change what and how his bodies various chemical productions are. He is so smart he can literally plan for eventualities that where actually impossible. That last one really does get into dr doom territory, which is the villain I've always thought Deus was closest to in mainline comics. What if Doom was actually as smart as he thinks he is.

Michael Obert

It doesn't make you immune, no, but the smarts to know everyone's gunning for you sure helps.

Gullindjemprins

He’s got that Batman v. Poison Ivy willpower, but also much more of a goofball.

Matthew Lambert

I assumed it made him smart enough to comprehend the chemical interactions taking place and how they would alter his thoughts and then ignore them, shutting off those thought patterns.

Greg Morrow

Deus might be remote piloting a "Deus" waldo.

Krahazik's Shipyard

Kind of like a thought I have had about the truth serum used in some movies and series. The serum, to my knowledge, in most cases can not force the person to speak or to provide the specific answers the questioner wants. If you are aware of its effects and are smart enough with enough mental discipline, you could avoid providing the questioner with the information they want while still being completely truthful.

Lucas

He does seem regularly overjoyed to not only perform experiments but specifically teach. He seems to genuinely want to make more of the world like himself. Which kinda begs the question about that face scar, now.

Lucas

He did just note that super powers don't change reality as much as add to it, so the underlying chemistry in place for awareness and analysis would still have to be in place, but supplemented by a kind of chemical metaphor for extreme lucidity and mental flexibility.

Lucas

You know, we just saw that Maxima occasionally has to ingest Mercury. Deus is a big boy, and the brain is naturally the most energy demanding part of the human body baseline; have we covered what his nutritional needs are?

Stephen Gilberg

The scar certainly suggests that he hasn't always had a perfect run. I doubt he'd do it to himself on purpose. He doesn't seem to want anyone to underestimate him.

Noise

It is affecting him, just like the strength drain was affecting Maxima that time she destroyed the Vault Guardian. He just has so much brainpower that he's feeling the chemical love, but the rest of his brain is overpowering the reaction.

Nathan

So far, this is sexier than the vote incentive. Its also hilarious!

codesurfer

I love the cracked fanfic idea of it just being him learning the theory behind walking before his body could keep up and just faceplanting on concrete as an infant

Magraal

That ass in suspenders, thigh-highs and heels activates my neurons.

Sororitas Cupid

Deus is a fantastic villain. Definitely evil, but not so stupid as to actually break the law. And absolutely loving every minute of his evil.

Hugh Eckert

As far as I know, most "truth serums" are like sodium pentothal, which basically lower your inhibitions to answering, but also lower your comprehensibility. I think Sidney had that experience a while ago (with a side of ADHD).

Hugh Eckert

My Chemical Enemies to Lovers.

akrasia

I must respectfully point out that he's a murderer. That kinda seems like breaking the law.

akrasia

I'm now thinking that Deus is an ascended non-corporeal energy entity, inhabiting his old body. Maybe "Deus" isn't entirely figurative.

JasonAW3

What she doesn't seem to understand is, once you understand HOW something works, you're more than 50% of the way of figuring out how to block something from happening. And Deus not only knows about what she does, but has had more than enough time to figure out multiple ways of preventing what she does from working. And, your point about those with extreme intellects? Very well taken, but unfortunately, far too many people of exceptional intellect miss out on the possible life expanding opportunities that are now becoming more commonplace for them. That, and the current obsession of the academic community to teach people WHAT to think, rather than HOW to think, has crippled the last few generations in social and economic developement.

Phoenix

I do love Deus as a villain, one of the rare few 'super smart' villains who comes across as actually super smart. So far, he/we haven't even seen the tired Sherlock Holmes (movie) fight scene trope where he predicts everyones actions out 30 seconds to 2 minutes in advance. One of the things I picked up from my (ordinarily of very limited use) Math degree is that Chaos Theory, to most people's understanding, is completely bass ackwards from what it ACTUALLY is. Which is that complex systems with lots of inputs require so much more foreknowledge that it becomes not just exponentially difficult to model them (like the fight scene), it becomes effectively impossible, even for theoretical super intelligences.... well, at least those that are bound by causality anyway. Throw in FTL or time travel or such things and fergeddaboutit.

Teksura

I'm guessing he has some sort of nanobots which are designed to keep him healthy (deal with infection or toxins, kill cancerous cells, ect.) and they are as they speak simply collecting the chemical before it can affect him as it has identified it as a foreign, unknown chemical. Alternatively, the whole "that sounds suspiciously like he knows how to make supers" follows up with "And why would I not give myself a very useful power to ensure my continued good health."

AlpineBob

My Chemical Romance! Someone has already probably made that joke... Anyway, I expect he either has a toering of Resist Poison, or took a potion of such before interacting...

Magraal

"I'm as smart as Maxima is strong" makes me wonder if this is a reveal that he got his 'powers' from the same source, having recalled that he had the rock that caused her transformation...

Jacob Bissey

Intelligence is essentially just processing speed/efficiency. How long does it take you to get from information input to conclusion? That's what IQ is measuring, and because IQ is intentionally statistically normalized such that 100 is both the mean and median, and the standard deviation is 15 (meaning if you have a population consistently testing above or below 100 and said population is large enough for this to not just be a cluster of people with above or below average intelligence, it doesn't mean people in this population are smarter or dumber on average than everybody else, it means you have a bad IQ test). Also, standard deviation and percentile matter far more than the actual number. Intellectual deficiency is defined as two standard deviations below the mean, so IQ 70 and below, and genius is defined as two standard deviations above the mean, so 130 and above. An IQ of 70 means you are dumber than 97.5% of people, and an IQ of 130 means you are smarter than 97.5% of people. If you go up to three standard deviations, so 145, you are smarter than 99.5% of people. Beyond that, IQ differences barely even matter. And really, IQ matters extremely little in general, it does not at all correlate with academic success in post-secondary education or scientific achievement, and in fact it has a negative correlation with executives in major corporations (I know that sounds like a joke, but it's actually true, I read the study, it was years ago so I don't recall who to cite, but it's out there if you look for it). The only thing that IQ matters for is learning, because processing speed is most useful for getting the most out of a lecture or textbook, and it is very helpful for information retention, since you reach genuine comprehension faster. However at some point in highschool or college this advantage is supplanted by hard work and discipline, as most inborn talents are, hence why there's no correlation between IQ and post-secondary education success, but there is in primary and secondary education success. Having a higher or lower IQ doesn't make you more or less capable of learning, it just means you learn faster or slower. The only thing stopping someone with an IQ of 50 or below from earning a doctorate in quantum physics and fully comprehending it is time and the patience of teachers, as each step to get there takes longer by a large amount, but if you had infinite time, the perfect learning environment, the perfect learning tools, and perfectly patient and knowledgeable teachers, they would *eventually* learn anything, it just might take ten thousand years for the more advanced or complex subjects, so not something that's practically feasible. The way a super intelligence like Deus' would work, would be something along the lines of perfect information retention coupled with an impossibly fast processing speed, possibly with an imagination capable of perfectly accurately simulating reality so he can model and test things within his mind to expedite the process of figuring things out and testing hypotheses.

eddi_TBH

He would be bored in seconds living like that. His brain just reacts faster than Sciona's chemicals.

eddi_TBH

To commit a murder one requires victims someone cares enough about to bring charges. A killer of killers is a classic hero trope.

eddi_TBH

Deus has an unlisted superpower. The ability to drive women crazy by being uncontrollable and unkillable.

akrasia

... Are you implying that it isn't murder if you kill someone nobody cares about, or knows about?