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Patreon 2.0 Announcement - New Tiers Coming Soon (Patreon)

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2022-01-03 18:32:59
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2022-01-03 18:52:00
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This is an important update for all Daily Doug Patrons...

Hey, y'all! Things are happening here at the Daily Doug Patreon. We are so grateful for all of you and for your support of our channel and content. 

As we move into 2022, we have reconfirmed our commitment to leading this community and delving into the music, art, culture, and ideas that help us along our journey. 

As a result, we're updating our Tier Structure. During February, patrons will be asked to update your membership to one of our new tiers for 2022. The detailed information is in the video and below:

The Existing Tier 1 will be replaced by a New Tier 1 called Helvering's Army. The perks will remain the same. Folks in Helvering's Army will have access to our Discord, the Patreon Polls, and general community posts. The new Tier will be $2 per month.

The Existing Tiers 2 and 3 will be replaced by a New Tier 2 called The Doug Club. In addition to the Tier 1 perks, this Tier will give patrons access to ALL of our pre-recorded (non-livestream) videos, including all episodes of The Extended Play Lounge, Behind the Score, and the new Fan Favorite videos. The new Tier will be $5 per month.The Existing Tier 4 will be replaced by a New Tier 3 called The Council of Dougs. In addition to the Tiers 1 and 2 perks, this Tier will give patrons access to all scheduled (and unscheduled) Daily Doug Live hangouts as well as a dedicated Tier 3 Discord channel. Patrons can also access and view previously recorded livestream/hangout videos. Be a part of the inner circle that gives feedback and recommendations as to the direction and programming of the channel. The new Tier will be $8 per month.

Please view the video and consult the accompanying document. And, please reach out to me if you have any questions or concerns. Much love to you all!

Doug, Megan, & John

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Things are happening here at the Daily Doug Patreon. We're updating our Tier Structure during February. During this month, patrons are asked to update your...

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Sapphyr

Sadly, still no subtitles :(

Glenn Wo

Ouch, everything is getting more expensive these days. I have to think about if I will stay as tier 2 and pay more and thereby cancel some other patreon sites and cancel YT membership, or if I just stay as a YT member. (though this "Priority reply to comments" does not seems to be applicable)

Amitai Hupert

Major price raise, sadly I have to leave but I'll keep following on YouTube, was fun in this great community

Dave Vick

Y'all are pricing yourselves right out of your market. Sayonara...

Garance A Drosehn

The first tier should be more musical. "Helvering's Chorus" or maybe "Helvering's Harmonies".

Bernard Dawson

I agree about the price hike. I might well leave.

Great Scott

so $1 goes to $2, $2/$4 goes to $5, and $5 goes to $8. hmmm.

Aaron West

Good for you for re-adjusting the tiers. Compared to other Patreons, you deliver a lot more value for the price.

Arrow2theACL

Initially $2 for 2-4 extended play listens is a good deal. Now that a lot more extended play listens will be added in the up coming months, $2 for someone to come in for one month and be able to listen to every extended play submisson and just be able to leave is just criminally undervalued.

Arrow2theACL

Like always there will be some backlash for the price increase. That can be expected. People will leave, but I do feel it is fair if Doug is going to be dedicating more of his time to this as a bussiness. Anyone who is considering leaving, I doubt you will find any content creator that will put their content on a seperate platform when their video is blocked on YouTube for free like Doug does. For someone to do that, I will support.

Jim Reeves

I'm thrilled to be among the "Council of Dougs", I feel so important now! LOL

Itsfun2listen

I feel the direction is being mislead in the favour of pretentious music for an elite few, a lot of the suggestions are lost on me and I am a huge progressive rock fan. Haken for example didn’t make any sense

Itsfun2listen

I subscribed to Patreon after enjoying the YT reactions, not seeing the value in Patreon as yet, need to widen the artists under analysis. But I feel I may not be able to influence away from the take all abstract artists and run with it, I like RED but King Crimson is wearing thin

Garance A Drosehn

Huh. I liked Haken, and I had not heard them before. I even bought one of their albums and an EP-ish release.

Trent Curtis

I don’t mind the small price increase. I think of it this way: I spend a few hours each week listening to Doug’s work. For a couple of bucks per week, I think that’s fair, especially factoring in the amount of time and effort he’s putting into all of this. It’s cheaper than seeing even one new movie, or going to Starbucks.

Wakelyn

I'll unfortunately probably have to leave, as I am a college student and don't have much disposable income--still, I wish you the best, and hope I'll be able to come back someday!

Jay

Whenever you get back to Yes, please do "To Be Over" or "Into the Lens". I hated to see you waste a Yes episode on "America", and "Topographic Oceans" isn't great – the tracks are just long. I think you've exhausted most of their good 20+ minute material.

Matt Leppard

I’d like to hear the whole of Fly From Here Return Trip or maybe all of Drama. For Genesis, all of Wind & Wuthering:

Les Mable

As the late Douglas Adams wrote... (but he could just as easily have been describing music) “Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is.” When someone expresses surprise that I haven't heard an artist, I think of this, and can readily counter with..."And have you heard of ...." citing some other artist I know well, but that they most likely have never heard of. My family are used to it by now... :) In summary - there is always something new - thank you Doug for helping to bring that to your audience.

Eusebio R-Z

Increases (from lower tiers to higher ones) are 100%, 150%, 25%, and 60% respectively. It's not that small (most members are probably experiencing increases in many areas, and in the end, a few $$ here and a few $$ there they do add up). Consider that most people who are currently in the $2 tier probably had some reason for not being already in the $4 tier, and asking these members to increase their contributions to $5 sounds like a risk of a large percentage of them just leaving. Personally I think it may be a mistake, if the community is still in a growing phase there is probably more to gain by keeping membership prices low and the growth rate higher. In the end free markets will likely do their work: some people will leave, some people will stay and other people will let their membership lapse and re-join every now and then. After the dust settles, the results will speak whether it was a good decision or not. It will probably be a one-way experiment though, if the price increase doesn't go well, bringing the prices back down will not bring back everyone that left (in business terms - member acquisition is harder than member retention).

doughelvering

Thank you for your comment. I’m very aware of the inherent risk in changing our tier pricing. It’s something that we’ve debated for months. It is our hope that folks will see the value in our content and be patrons at these new tier levels, which will now stay consistent.

Trev

But as you've already alluded to "will now stay consistent" will only be for 2022

Jean-Michel LaFontaine

When will we have to make a choice ? We're going to notified by mail ? Thanks Doug!

Marc La Porte

Does that mean we get less for the same money?

Frits van Voorst

Maybe nothing to do with the new tier structure but at the discord site all channels are suddenly ‘read only’. My fault?

chuck Rowland

Umm..I get it as you contribute daily. I do appreciate your depth and insight. I think that it may be a tad of gouging going on. You are a professor of music and have an income etc..some of us are in financial turmoil due to covid and other reasons. I do resent any type of gouging..Any You tube page is for fun not for income.. We are not here to supplement your end of day profits..We are HERE because we love what we HEAR..Consider me gone soon..but I will always listen online when available.

BRIAN MILLER

I seem to have lost access to the Discord channels. Not sure why.

Brian Brylow

I fully support the idea of the new tiers. I don’t think that anyone understands how much work goes into putting productions like this together and as Doug has said previously in his videos, this is his full-time job providing content an education to all of us. I for one am certainly willing to give back in return for that.

Rick Morse

Well said, Brian! "The Daily Doug" is the only Patreon subscription I have, and the understanding of music theory & composition that I've gained from Dr. Doug has made me a better guitarist / bassist. Worth every penny!

ArTi

I will not be able to support the channel with the new tiers, so I want to thank you, Doug for all the content I've seen so far. It was a pleasure and a rewarding experience.

Ian Raine

As a current tier 3 type, Douglas, I must say the only reason for not going top shelf, was that your live zooms don't actually work time zone wise for me. I'm sure you'll agree that 6am Saturday my end is a bad time to ask someone to appear on camera. Apart from that, I've got the T-shirt and, I get it, it's become an earner for you (and fair enough, you do a great job presenting and we like it mate, keep it up!!!) With this simplification of levels I am going to go one higher, but can I just say, 1) Would it be possible to vary the times of your zoomies and live threads to take into account your followers from the far flung antipodes?; & 2) Instead of buying you a beer, can I dedicate my patreon fee to buying the lady of the house a cocktail? Ref: the Pogues, and when are you going to do Gasworks Wall (Dirty Old Town).??