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Disney's Remake of Beauty and the Beast (Patreon)

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2018-07-31 06:32:08
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2026-06

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Thanks, I hate it.

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Beauty and the Beast Got a Remake

Thanks, I hate it. ~ S P O N S O R E D C O N T E N T ~ Listen to books like DisneyWar (a mere 36 hours!) and other really long books while your life slowly seeps out of your mortal shell in LA traffic with Audible - get started here: audible.com/lindsayellis

Comments

Caitlin

IT'S FINALLY HERE

Maeghan

THIS IS THE GREATEST DAY OF MY LIFE IM HYPERVENTILATING RIGHT NOW

De

I was just about to go to bed.... I mean like getting up out of the chair going to bed. I have no will power in certain regards.

William Gross

Heyooo. This movie was hot garbage. I was actually astonished by how bad it was.

Jeff Shirray

Nitpicky flub at 10:00 or so where Lindsay says "original dvd release in 1991" referring to the dvd commentary. Not sure if worth fixing, but felt I'd be remiss not to mention it. sorrynotsorry. Awesome so far

duckie

God damn it, the one time I check an email notification in bed, it turns out to be a half hour of you ripping into one of my favorite hot garbage piles. FINE. Who even sleeps anymore anyway

Jeff

It was one of the most financially successful movies ever made, and I never had any interest in seeing it at all. Now I feel like I have to before watching your video.

Callen

The original Disney movie or the original story?

Lindsay Ellis

the accurate phrase would be "original dvd release from 2002" but I figured that would be even more confusing - the commentary is from 2002, the movie is from 1991

Mar MB

Great video. Also: How do you manage to find all these awful techno remixes of Disney songs?

Lindsay Ellis

But yes point taken - I should have phrased it better ;)

duckie

I love these graphics and feel so validated by the use of dogespeak so this was pretty much perfect

Kylie Corcoran

OMG This just made my week!! Btw, where can I find that remix from the credits? I need to torture my friends with it! >:D

Tennelle Flowers

Ah yes, let me just soak in this actual critical discussion of this film. yeeeeeessss

David Loring

Hoping this comes across as a positive question, but does the Audible plug at the end indicate you getting more opportunities to grow an even wider audience? Cos yay/well done if that’s the case!

thefifthmatt

Huh... I had no clue Aida was a Disney musical. But hey I saw it in high school and the soundtrack is actually pretty dope, aside from a few songs being Tim Rice writing from the perspective of an enslaved African people. Elton John did a bang up job though.

Callen

DVD release of the original film?

Farah Ismail

I thought there was a lot of chemistry between Belle and the Beast in the scene where the Beast says "Save Martha." It worked for me.

Joost van Amerongen

Obligatory 'hah you said dvd release in 1991', but otherwise "Thanks, I love it!"

Matt Cramp

Your objection to the change to letting Belle go sort of... makes it sound more appealing? It's not a trolley problem, it's him giving up on Belle and accepting death, justified as altruism. That's kind of deliciously fucked-up, although if the movie still thinks that's him being genuinely good-hearted that's a problem.

bewires

THANK YOU for pointing out the fact that this movie leans REALLY DARN HARD into placing it into a specific time in France. I really honestly think a big strength of the animated films is that they AREN'T set in particular clearly identifiable time periods, because I studied history and to be completely honest, it really just pulls me out of the fantasy because I know shit about it. Specifically, the choice to do the powdered wigs and the big skirts and the little napoleonic schoolboys kinda drove me crazy, because that preeeeetty much implies this takes place just prior to or just post Napoleon (esp because there's paired dancing which wasn't really popularized until then)....and then there's that damn plague doctor mask and the black boils. Like, I don't want to give a shit about historical accuracy in this movie but like you were clearly aiming for a time period there and then just didn't bother to google when the black plague was actually in paris? all the historical detail does is make the baffling choices of this movie worse.

josey (bog unicorn)

There's an actually good remake hiding inside this movie somewhere, which is to say I kind of enjoyed the hell out of it but it is flawwwwwwwwwed.

Frederik Schramm

The problem is that he also condemns all the other inhabitants of the castle to death. It becomes a trolley problem because now the curse not only transformed them, but also kills them when the time is up

Eric Lundquist

God I freaking hated this movie. I haven't really been a fan of any of this wave of live-action Disney remakes, but I didn't think any of them were *bad.* This one was, though. The moment that broke me was the freaking library scene. They took one of the strongest character-growth moments from the original and twisted and contorted it into an act of insult on Belle's taste in literature. I had seen a lot of negative criticism before watching this movie, but I really tried to give it the benefit of the doubt. I desperately wanted to enjoy this movie. But once the library scene happened, that was the point when the movie became irredeemable.

halla

Cavedaddy killed me, I'm dead now.

Christin LeJeune

YAAAAAAAAAY!! I'm so glad you finally tackled this (though I am sorry you had to watch this abomination so many times.) My friends and family know that I am a massive BatB fan so when the 2017 remarke came out, they would all run up to me with these eager, overexcited faces and be like "WELL??? ISN"T IT AMAZING?? DIDN'T YOU LOVE IT??? WASN'T IT SOOOOOOO MUCH BETTER?" and be absolutely astounded by my intense loathing for it. lol. Love your work so much!

Jane Cozens

Paige O Hara was at Supercon and a lot of people asked her on her thoughts on the remake. I think she is obligated by Disney to say she liked it but subtly added her real thoughts and I quote, "I think the first one is more magical" .

Cal O'Boyle

Thanks you for this. My 90s and early 00s nostalgia was so triggered with the opening clips.

Will Park

I guess I made the right decision to not watch it

Eric Mulder

Really loved this video! And, very few people mention how (sadly) influential Neil Strauss's book, "The Game" actually is. That book presents the most toxic version of masculinity as the only possible choice for straight men, and because that vision has been accepted we get a beast with no "best self." Hell, there's an entire franchise dedicated to popularizing Neil Strauss's vision of masculinity. Hmm...I think somebody did a whole series of videos touching on that topic :-)

Reo Scrolls

Thank you so much for this! Oh my goodness I've been trying to explain to my family why I really don't like this movie and now I'm just going to send them your video.

Turtle Powa!

The American Dad! episode "Minstrel Krampus" did a much better job in remaking Beauty and the Beast than this drivel. Krampus is a huge jerk at first, his animate object servants are charming, he and Steve bond over a musical number, and his death brings Steve to tears.

SEAN BADGER

I'm not sure if Lindsay reads these comments before posting to Youtube, but at 8:15, "Positivity" is misspelled "Positivty".

Cosmic Frog

Love the essay Lindsay. This movie always bothered me, but I could never articulate the reasons why. I always end up getting frustrated with people that think it's the greatest thing ever. I think you pretty much nailed all my reasons for disliking it. Question about those post credit ads. Are you giving plugs to people or just getting sponsors now. I'm not going to drop my patronage as a result of this (you have every right to seek additional financial support - I don't know your personal situation), but I am curious.

Dag-Erling Smørgrav

Isn't it supposed to be set in the mid-18th century? Definitely Ancien Régime, since the Beast is an actual ruler. I'm no expert, but the furniture looks like Louis XV to me.

bewires

honestly the nods to historical accuracy are pretty inconsistent to me. at best guess, the idea is that beast and the castle are mid-18th century, so like you say ancien regime, and everything around them isn't anymore? because rural schooling is kind of a post-code-civil thing, and there were those little school boys at the very beginning. which is why the guy who gets upset about Belle teaching a girl to read is really weird because that is the time period when widespread alphabetization happened for everyone in france. so like little farm boys learning to read would have been equally incongruous. Unless the little town wasn't that little and it was a pre existing lycee or latin college but I DIGRESS BECAUSE IT'S DUMB ANYWAY. my biggest nitpick is honestly that fucking waltz cause the viennese waltz is preeeetty darn specifically dated to 1806. I don't care in the animated film because it's just pretty and spinny and who cares because you mostly just see the pretty dress spinning, but in the live action you can see their feet. and you can see the whole court starting to dance it at the end. so to summarize: the movie basically hints with its historical cues that while the beast was beasting, the revolution happened. and they didn't need to do that and it was a bad decision. also like the last black plague outbreak in mainland europe was in the mid 17th century. so that's also pretty stupid.

Arrogant cum trucks

Awesome video!! Just wanted to mention one little that wasn't really mentioned..this movie was ugly. Very ugly & everything looked dark & busy. I noticed this with the other live action versions too, there is something missing in translation where for despite throwing more money at these films, they feel empty & have less visual impact than their animated originals (at least for me). thanks for all the lovely work you do!!!!

Andrew Lewis

Loved the video. As always you rock and I hope you write a book someday! You give me hope for the future of film criticism as both entertainment and as an artform.

The Princess and the Scrivener

That about covers all our complaints with it as well! My only real bit of feedback is that considering Disney doesn’t have anything close to actual trans characters, I think showing Terk for that joke wasn’t really appropriate. It kind of perpetuates some harmful ideas, especially the very common one that trans=drag. A group shot of Gay Days or a stock photo might've been safer. I know it was in jest, but it came across as more flippant than I think you intended. No need for an apology, maybe just something to keep in mind next time.

Lisa Medin

Sooooo good. As always.

Alex Wright

In the spirit of nitpicking, I think you said the original DVD release of Beauty & the Beast was in 1991, just in case you have time to dub or put a subtitle over that part. Edit: Oh I see that was mentioned above.

Alex Wright

Otherwise yeah making me see it in a new way as usual. :)

Alex Britta

Belle's invention subplot that goes nowhere was a request from Emma Watson, herself. They weren't going make her father an inventor like in the animated, so she asked if they could make that Belle's thing instead. Apparently, the writers thought it was a good idea, but not good enough that they would bother to explore it further than throwing in a couple scenes and going "Hey, Look!"

Peter McDevitt

I remember seeing this in theaters. it was SOLD OUT. and while everyone "enjoyed" it, i was just sitting there waiting for either Belle or Beast to say the name "Martha" once we learned they both had dead moms.

Tamar Kalir

Yay I love Lindsay hating stuff. That makes good videos. Also I literally lol-ed at the trolley problem stuff. Thanks!

Elizabeth M Hyde

I gotta ask... what did you think of the Cinderella live action? I’ve heard good things; my older sister loved it, to her complete and total surprise.

Bin Lee

Lurve this. Also, you got a corporate sponsor! Congrats!

Josh Clark

TWO VIDEOS IN A MONTH!

Adequately Sized Dog

Now that you got audible as a sponsor, when are you going to get the Cheesecake Factory as a sponsor?

Scott CineRam

Congrats for once again being feature by avclub.com! They say your videos are "killin it" and I could not agree more.

Ettore

A disappointing videos, too much like the old NC ones. You have the producer looking at the camera, having performative anger about how she hates the movie and how it hurts her. The objections about the movie are brought to the extreme and they seem more personal than analytical. Even worse, Lindsay makes some mistakes and misunderstandings about the movie, which is something she usually doesn’t. It’s a pity, because I agree on the basic fault of the movie, explaining too much the alleged plot-holes. I am sure the next video analysis will be a return to form.

Natalie Bear

I like how, even when you're really down on the thing you're reviewing, your video essays aren't a negativity fest. You're not inviting us to revel in how bad the movie is just to guffaw--it's actually really obvious you had an emotional stake in the film & wanted it to be better. It's just really nice and I wish more internet critics looked at movies the way you do.

Derrick Jones

I hear a lot of these remakes are designed for the Chinese and Russian markets, since they didn't have the opportunity to see these in the theatre, but they'll be DAMNED if they don't see it in full HD!! <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/08/23/why-film-studios-really-like-movie-remakes/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.d42fa47e29e2" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/08/23/why-film-studios-really-like-movie-remakes/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.d42fa47e29e2</a>

Cormac Mor

Silly question: what was the font you used at 0:37 with the long t crossbars and y extenders?

EFF.ORG

Love the video, the sorely needed input on Disney live-action work, and the "thanks I hate it" format. Great work.