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Breaking Bad: Season 4 - Episode 3 -4 - Patreon Exclusive (Patreon)

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Tenwyn

I don't think there's a problem with reading the episode titles before watching the episode. The titles were there when the episodes originally aired so the creators obviously thought there was no issue with them.

Will Sofer

I’m sort of the opinion that the creators wanted the viewer to know the episode titles, going in; they’re often deliberately vague, almost to the point of misdirection. LOST does something similar, and they definitely want people to know the titles before watching. Breaking Bad is a finely crafted show, and I’m fairly sure Vice Gilligan wouldn’t leave even something like titling to chance.

Jeff K
>>132135532

Plus, the titles for Breaking Bad (and Better Call Saul) are incredibly vague if you've never seen the show, so it'd be pretty impossible to predict/understand the reference in almost every case.

Jeff K

These are two great episodes, and I can't wait to see y'all's reaction to Bill Burr popping up when I get the chance to watch... but I don't think I'm alone in being even more excited about one of the episodes coming next week.

Tay Schumaker

Episode titles were for sure released before the episodes aired. I remember, especially in the last season, there was a lot of discussion based on what the next episode was called. And in some instances they even released trailers based on the episode title. Can’t really say more without spoiling anything

Geoff Walsh
>>132136470

Season 2's 'Seven Thirty Seven' 'Down' 'Over' 'ABQ' being a perfect example of the importance of the episode titles!

Pam Nail

The episode titles were almost always revealed by the network beforehand, usually a few at a time, a few weeks ahead of time. I don't think the titles are spoily at all; in fact, I think the writers went out of their way to name the episodes things that don't really give you much to chew on until you've seen the episode. I think it would be better to look at them after the episode rather than before. That way, it can be part of the post-ep discussion, rather than looking at them before and trying to guess.

Actuarial Lurker

The episode titles were usually vague- like Half Measure and Full measure from last season which indicate the story Mike tells in one and then Walt going all the way in the next. So all you knew was that someone would go extreme. Of course the "inside joke" is the collection of titles to Season 2 where you see episode 1, 4, 10, and 13 spell out "737, Down, Over, ABQ." Which is the 737 plane crashing into the Cessna due to Jane's father and ABQ is the international airport call sign for Albequerque, So this WAS the show trolling the audience for reading the titles and offering them an Easter Egg

LT

The name of the episode does pop up on the cable menu btw

Tay Schumaker

Jesus George I did a power point presentation in 1995 in junior high. And I’m pretty sure it had been out for a while by then

Brad Lowry

Interesting anecdote about Titles and who chooses them: There was this book about baseball that the author, W. P. Kinsella, a Canadian BTW, wanted published under his preferred title, but the Book Publishing Executives and Promotion and Sales Types convinced him to call it "Shoeless Joe" because his title was too flowery for a Baseball Book. Later, after great success as a book it was made into a movie, and then all the Film Executives and Promotions and Sales Types convinced him that "Shoeless Joe" wouldn't attract a broad enough demographic and only reach baseball fans, so he suggested the title that the Book Executives shot down and the Movie folk loved it so they went with Kinsella's original Book Title for the Film, "Field of Dreams"... pretty cool.

Actuarial Lurker

Of course the Bullet Points title is a double entendre- also alluding to the cartel shooting up the truck that Mike was guarding in addition to Skyler's story about how Walt got his money

Jeff K
>>132141302

(which should also serve as a casual reminder that George and Simone should ABSOLUTELY watch Field of Dreams. Baseball season is coming up soon, after all, so the timing is perfect.)

Chris B

Titles won't spoil you anything. They are thought through by the writers to be intelligent, vague and will make more sense to you after watching the episode than before. Example from season 3: There was an episode called "I See You". It was the one which largely took place in the I.C.U. Great double meaning but wouldn't spoil anything.

Dan Holmes

I would recommend reading the titles after, there shouldn't be any spoilers but it is more of a fun "ah ha" moment once you already know the story because the titles are mostly quite clever, you should also go back and read all the previous titles, i'll let someone else explain why season 2 is special ;)

Brad Lowry

Another Fun Fact about French Connection / Popeye Doyle talk by Hank regarding Gale Boetticher. Notwithstanding Promotional Art to the contrary, Popeye Fried Chicken is NOT named after the cartoon character, but is actually named after the Gene Hackman Character, Popeye Doyle, referred to by Hank from the film "The French Connection" (1971). It is an amazing Action Film and perhaps this film should be placed on "The Big List" (The Project Backlog of Cinebinge, so to speak), especially as it won Best Picture Oscar and Gene Hackman won Best Actor Oscar for portraying Popeye Doyle.

Jeff K
>>132150081

I just got to that part of the episode and came into the comments to note the exact same thing... ha!

Vwlss Nvwls

The 808 they were singing about in that song is reference to the 808 kick drum, a popular drum sound created by a drum machine (TR-808), and heard in most hip hop songs since the 80s.

Vwlss Nvwls

Pizza is natures most perfect food, so never feel bad about wanting it. :)

Philipp Roensch

Yes, episode titles are set when the script for the shows are written, and they appear in TV guides. Sometimes there is last minute changes before airing, but most later releases also keep the titles. For BB they certainly have a meaning and are thought of with the directors, it would be nice to see your aha-moments even if you read them after the episodes. I feel they don't spoil anything, but that is a personal decision. Gus did probably not have camera's because he wants full deniability and does not know where the cartel might be watching as well. Jesse's story is really at a low point at this time, he blames himself and got so into being the bad guy, he sees no way out but drowning out this reality. I think he is really sympathetic because it isn't all his fault.

Ballsac McGee

what are you talking about?? when has anyone ever gotten spoiled from a title????

Jonah

I just looked through the episode titles of season 4 and 5 and can't imagine any of them being a spoiler. only one of them tells anything and its very little, and you'd honestly have to not have any idea what episode you're on to not already know what it spoils. And you guys have always payed attention to what episode you're on, so the title won't spoil anything you wouldn't already know from common sense. I would like to hear your thoughts and interpretations on what you think the episode titles mean before you watch them if you care about my input at all. And I hate spoilers so I'm not baiting/trolling. Hope this helps! :)

Jonah
>>132163621

Then you still get the AHA! moment at the end when you can be like "so that's what the title meant" in your post watch discussions.

Jonah

The TV guide wouldn't tell you the name of the episode just by looking while you're scrolling but you'd be able to hit "info" and pull up the description and it would either give the movie tag line and main cast/director, or tell you the name of the episode and the description of what the episode is about, just like in the tabs in netflix/hulu/ streaming services. Probably a carbon copy of the info.

Jonah
>>132163958

Some TV guides would have the info up in a little window by the small video player that your guide would allow, so you can keep watching, like the top right would be your TV channel currently playing, top left would be info over whatever you're currently hovering over, and bottom whole of the screen would be the TV guide. And it would say the episode name and description in that box next to the video player.

Jonah
>>132138058

I agree with your first part, but I would like to see them have both the brainstorm of what it could mean, and the aha moment in the post-watch discussion.

E. D.
>>132163621

I still hate, to this day, that I read the ending/twist of The Others years ago in a YT comment :( I‘ll watch the movie regardless but still :(

Sumner Hayes
>>132141174

First release (Mac-only) was 1987, then Microsoft bought it up. First Windows version shipped in 1990, alongside the Windows 3.0 release.

Victor
>>132163401

someone’s clearly never seen always sunny in philadelphia

akaTheBARON Tokyo Drift

🖤I think I have the answer to your "to read the title or not to read" dilemma. Ask a friend who has already seen the show to give you fake episode titles for each episode before you watch them. They'd be non-spoilery but still based on the episode. So last week you could have said "Next we're watching episode 2 from season 4 and it's called...punchy punchy time" Or the episode titled "one minute" it could have been "and this is episode 7 from season 3 and it's called Hank Gets Double-Teamed" .. Ok that last one may still be too spoilery... plus it sounds dirty XD

Logan Kerlee

lmao, loved the episodes! Always a lot of fun. :) xD Go George and deplete the cow reserves. hahahaha, enjoy your burgers.

Vhii

Imo reading the title of episodes wont spoil you, unless you have some crazy deduction skills. Titles of some previous episodes have been things like: Fly, 737, ABQ, Phoenix, etc. If you manage to figure out what happens in the episode from the title alone, I'll be seriously impressed. It would be fun to see you guys speculate though. And one more thing. This may have been brought up before but I think it fits the topic. In season 2 the titles of all the episodes with the black and white beginning spell out: "737, Down, Over, ABQ". This obviously foreshadows the plane crash, but during the release of the episodes nobody figured it out. Point being I think reading the titles is fine :)

Silje

Just to add, Skyler IS a published writer. In season 1 they mention she's authored a book/novel.

Honey Hermsen

It's the episodes titles, how much of a spoiler could it possibly be?

Honey Hermsen

People wanna know why Skyler is hated? How about she cheated a man out of his own business?

Honey Hermsen

I'll never understand how they buy a car wash for 800k but Skyler bitches about the champagne for 320 $

JoeE

My favorite title was I f t

Actuarial Lurker

S3E1 was "No Mas" and S3E5 was "Mas" and in the first Walter quits and in the other he gets "pulled back in"....so that was spoliery

Jay

I love it when Simone's cat purrs into the microphone, so cute:)

Vhii
>>132181952

Ah, must've missed it! You do go a bit more into detail in regards to the Easter egg with episode numbers and such. Good comment :)

Vwlss Nvwls
>>132155867

Yeah, pretty sure they are also singing about the 808 kick drum, because if it was the 808 area code they would sing more about a specific city/area. So when they say "that 808 will hit ya where the good lord split you" then they mean the bass from the 808 kick drum will kick you in the ass. :D

Kevin

I think for shows like breaking bad and better call saul you will NOT be spoiled by the title. They are more clever than that. So I recommend before. But if not before, definitely after. Maybe just as a TV fan, I think its a good idea to know how to reference a specific episode. And some of these episodes are famous.

jackthegent

I would like for yall to say the episode title. They won't spoil and its good to know how to reference certain ones.

Jesse Coombs
>>132193073

I don't have a dog in the race, but I'll just be happy if they go on to watch Better Call Saul.

JBK405

re: The Camera .... for a criminal enterprise (of any type) you don't want ANY direct documentation, because that is how people get convicted. Al Capone and his tax records is the classic example, but there's countless other examples of somebody documenting something 'for fun' and not realizing that it's incriminating. Recording the actual operation of a drug manufacturing facility is a sky-high risk because it's direct evidence. Remember the key line from 'Training Day': It's not what you know, it's what you can prove. People don't realize that in real life, most criminal organizations are actually (relatively) well known. People know who the leader of the gang is, and who his moneymakers are, and where he's stashing his cash. You can find Wikipedia articles galore on current real-life crimelords. But without proof, "knowing" it is meaningless. As long as they can avoid being caught on tape, or having their key henchmen be caught on tape, they can continue to operate as normal. With that recording, if it is ever discovered in any circumstance, they can PROVE that illegal activities were occurring here. To have a camera installed shows that Gus has SUCH distrust that he's willing to take the risk.

james repka

Episode titles could be seen on iMDb ahead of time, but in that era the "Reddit Detective" phenomenon was in its infancy. The season 2 reference was four episodes whose titles were known, but to my recollection it wasn't revealed before the episodes aired, partly because they were episodes in which the B&W pre-credit scene included the NTSB investigators, which you didn't know until it aired. In the last couple of seasons they did supply iMDb with fake cast lists so that people couldn't surmise any information based on who was in a particular episode. The week before the finale it listed ALL of the actors who had appeared in the entire series (including the dead characters) perhaps implying that it would be a clip show. By the time Better Call Saul aired internet sleuthing was maturing. In one season someone figured out that there was a message hidden in the episode titles that would have sorta been a spoiler but it was one that most viewers saw coming from a mile away.

An Inanimate Fucking Object

It's not both directions. Seeing the episode titles is fine and intended by Gilligan. Plus, they're too vague to spoil anything

Nick Kessler

DO NOT READ THE Episode titles. Trust me. i don't like spoilers either. Some will be spoilers and some will not be. Yes some are are very clever but it's just as enjoyable to read them after the fact.

Andrew

I found George's comment about wanting Jesse to go back to being with Jane interesting. She turned a part time meth head into a heroin junkie, not sure they were really good for each other, lol.

Breaking_Greggs

Ii think it would've been nice if you didn't spend the introduction talking about the episode titles.

Paul Davey

Be careful about knowing episode titles beforehand, because the title for the episode where Walt tries to shoot Gus and accidentally hits Jessie instead is a big spoiler.

Justin Leone

In this episode, George is very disrespectful to dirt! I can see that he is serious! Get out of his way! This is no place for loafers! Join him or die! Can you do any less?! I accept the challenge of Mr. Sparkle! #AwesomePower

Charlie Keeler

New series watchalong suggestion if no one mentioned...Mythic Quest conedu on Apple TV about a game development company

Paul Davey
>>132260910

Dàmn, you spoiled it. No going back now I guess so might as well comment by saying I think it was a very smart of way of Gus getting Walt to work for him without Pinkman by making Walt think Pinkman's killing was his fault.

Justin

It's not weird Gus didn't have cameras in the lab- he vets everyone he does work with and he told Mike he doesn't believe fear to be an affective motivator

Matt

As far as the episode titles go, most shows (at least prior to streaming), would have episode titles released before, so they would often be fairly cryptic as not to give away any surprises. This can vary from show to show, and some of the bigger prestige dramas would withhold episode titles or omit them prior to release in ads or promotional material, Game of Thrones for example did this several times. Breaking Bad follows this more cryptic model, with the exception of season finales, from which you could glean some limited information about the episodes beforehand, but they would still require a good bit of supposition to call correctly. I just reviewed the titles for S4/S5, and this holds true. If you wanted to be careful, you could get a list of the episodes and omit the finale titles, but it might be tricky because you'd know what you were attempting to avoid looking at. If you want, I could type a short list with the finales ommited for you to screenshot, or you could have someone you know do it for you. Not sure how much looking at the titles beforehand will help, but it could give you a little more structure in your lead-ins. Not that they're lacking now, but some rhythm can help if you're recording early or have reactor's block (to the extent that's a thing) but I've worked in live TV and Radio, and these little things can help even in a recorded-live scenario like yours.

Noe Ramirez

For some reason I had thought you guys did read the titles? Did you start and stop or I'm I having a mandala effect thing happen to me just now. haha

Thall

No matter how many times I see them discussing the champagne price, I do NOT understand the issue. They just bought a CAR WASH for 800k dollars. They saved 79k dollars by negotiating. How is 320$ gonna make a difference? If they are broke, wouldn't anyone wonder about the CAR WASH not the bottle?