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J. Valentine

I've been pressing F5 for like 10 minutes.

SlaverStudios

God... I JUST ate. Now I have to watch this without food. I've been refreshing this page since 6:00AM. I'll have to remember 8:00AM from now on lmao

JoshG

Have you guys ever seen stranger things? Can’t remember if you’ve mentioned if you have or not.

AC10

Huh?? What you talking about? TV time and Snack time is The Same Time... Everyone knows this. (Hint hint.. it doesn't matter if you just ate...)

Pam Nail

My God, "Ozymandias" is the best episode of this show, period. I mean, I love the finale, but Ozymandias is just next level.

JakeyShakeyBakeyBoy

Ozymandias is straight up an 11/10. The acting, writing, filmmaking, the improv’d Holly moment, using the Jane reveal as a weapon - honestly one of the greatest episodes of TV ever

Shane Darcy

Fun fact: Ozymandias is the only TV episode in IMDb history that holds a perfect 10/10 rating with over 200,000+ user votes; which really is a statistical anomaly. GOT s6e9 is in 2nd with a 9.9/10

djKENTO

We’re almost there…

Aye Ready

I disagree on Hank with the Jesse sting tbh. He is convinced that Walt is there to actually talk to Jesse and not kill him. He would much rather have Walt confess to Jesse and get Walt that way, without Jesse dying. Hank has no loyalties or ties to Jesse and really doesn't think much of him, probably justifiable so. If Jesse was killed, I think Hank would simply see it as another inevitable victim of the drug industry. How he reacted to Gonzo's (big guy that bled out at scrapyard) body is a great example of his attitude towards this. I would like to think Hank and Gomez would've intervened if Walt did try to kill Jesse in the town square, out of a sense of duty as cops. He just wouldn't care if Jesse did die. Being apathetic to someone's death is not the same as wishing someone dead or actively pursuing that goal. It is obviously meant to portray Hank in a bad light. The cinematography demonstrates this perfectly. Just after he says his line about Jesse being a "junkie murderer" the camera films him through the crib/cot, making him look as if he's behind bars. It's complex, it's shows that there's a coldness to Hank but honestly, I think his apathy is warranted. He doesn't care about Jesse and rightly so.

Vwlss Nvwls

When these last episodes aired, my stomach sunk further and further each time. They were all so well done, but hurt so much to watch.

FWPJR.

I’m behind on BB reactions ( I’m on episode 6 of this season right now ) but I’m already excited to watch you two react to the these two and especially the last few episodes which are coming up because imo BB has the best series finale ever. So I can’t wait to see what you two think about that. I’m trying to hurry up and catch up, and I’ll continue trying later tonight. You two have been killing it with BB reactions, I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again. I follow a few other reactors, and I think you two are without a doubt the best. That’s why I actually pay to watch everything.

SlaverStudios

This episode was the most-watched episode of the series when it aired with over 6 million viewers. It has a perfect 10.0 out of 10 rating on IMDb and won three Emmys... just a monster of an episode. One of the best hours of television EVER.

Tenwyn

Bryan Cranston's acting, especially in episode 14, is just amazing.

Tenwyn

I've watched many reactions to this episode and you're the first reactors to get upset that Flynn falsely accused Walt of pulling a knife on Skyler. I'm glad you guys mentioned it because every time I watch that scene I'm like "kid, your mom pulled the knife on him". Regardless, I think Flynn was probably just completely out of it and I can't blame him honestly, his entire life is being turned upside down at that moment.

Cincassette

“this is my least favourite episode”, says Simone, as she’s watching the highest rated episode of television of all time 😂😂

Ginger

So, "Better Call Saul" next? :D (I know, you mentioned the poll in the video. But that would be funny.)

Luca Kelly

I think when Walt jr said that Walt “might’ve killed somebody” over the phone, he was referring to Hank, so he wasn’t falsely accusing him of anything.

Aye Ready

It's a barrel morons, it rolls!

Honey Hermsen

So excited for this! I hope you will understand the phone call. So many people don't understand that scene and I don't know why.

proVaxxer

The fixation over what Junior told the emergency dispatcher is really odd. He wants the cops to come and save his mom from his dangerous father. Why is it so wild that he slightly twisted the facts in a spur of the moment decision to accomplish that?

miniature

did you listen to the discussion after the episode? they literally talk and laugh at themselves about it.

miniature

she seems to only like shows and movies where theres no stake and nothing happens.

WayneC

Walt Jnr's phone call was to get the police to the house quickly. And to get Walt Snr to leave.

Travis H

I have been looking forward to these two eps since you started, while also dreading watching Ozymandius. I have watched clips from it (it’s a masterpiece of an episode) but when it aired I was so affected by it I was screaming at the tv (which I don’t do) then I had my first ever full blown panic attack when Walt took Holly. Fingers crossed that doesn’t happen again when I watch this later.

WayneC

After the end of Breaking Bad, you should watch the "Alternate Breaking Bad Ending (Malcolm in the Middle Edition)".

Vwlss Nvwls

Simone was not so crazy, because there are two episodes and then the movie "El Camino" which could be viewed as one long episode. So... three episodes left. :) Good job, Simone!

Jeff K

I totally forgot that Rian Johnson directed Ozymandias.

megamoo chilli

Great Episode. Gotta love a show that ends well and doesn't get worse as it peters out.

Actuarial Lurker

The most brutally emotional scene in TV history at the start of episode 14

Anthony De Los Santos

Its the greatest episode of television ever made. People either agree with that (most people) or there are those very minor few who think its overrated and overdramatic. But that lack of in between probably explains the rating a bit.

Philipp Roensch

Sorry, I think you read Walter Junior's quick call wrong. If you have a dangerous person in your house, you threaten to call the police, you actually call them, and you say anything to make that person leave. Finn's got my applause for that. Stop that logic brain and feel, maybe you need to turn up the volume, the music was also telling of the tension here. Other than that, glad so see you so taken by two of the best episodes, dark and sad as they are, confrontations with consequences like this, are the best. Finally Walt has to admit how much he destroyed his family.

miniature

The irony of your comment is that you read what they're saying wrong. They both literally laugh at them selves about how at that tense moment the false accusation bothers them, and that the irony for them is this is the one time Walt gets blamed for something he didn't do when so many times he didn't get blamed for things he did do. Both of them literally say all that laughingly.

Tim T—

Since you both "love" cliffhanger endings so much, I’d like to nominate L O S T as the next big show. (Or Better Call Saul) Shoutout to the character Marie, violet and vilified.

Kevin

Nightcrawler Prisoners Crash Emperors new groove Hitch 12 years a slave I love you man Wreck it Ralph Horrible bosses The town

Phillyman!!

Looper is a great movie also directed by Rian Johnson

Ste Rawlings

In regards to what George was saying about Walt changing his tune from when he was pissed about having to pay off Mike's guys because it meant he got less money. It hasn't been about the money for Walt since like season 3. That situation with Mike's guys was all about power and ego.

Diiirk706

Better Call Saul is a M U S T. AND even somehow weirdly better than BB, though the two are inseparable/can ONLY be described as ONE HUGE show... It's Fucking spooky; Vince and Pete are some scarily talented Mother Fuckers, along with the teams, and actors, they managed to assemble to execute this Masterpiece Vision... IDGAF how pretentious that might sound, it's just the truth.

Spencer

He also directed "Fly", so both the highest rated and lowest rated Breaking Bad episodes on IMDB.

Dragonhunter

I mean imagine 1 hour earlier he was probably thinking about what's for breakfast tomorrow and suddenly his dad is a drug dealer.

Hunterrim

One of my favorite bits of episode 14 is when Walt gets back in his car after the shootout, and moves his rear-view mirror so he doesn’t have to look at his own face. Easy to miss on first watch but it says so much

Carlos Hurtado

The “I watched Jane die” line hits hard every time. Jesse's devastated reaction always makes me tear up.

Zoran24

To me he essentially did cause Hank's death, and Walt's family didn't know otherwise if he did or not. IMO you're being hard on Flynn, his family was threatened by Walt's presence, not Skylers, to me it doesnt matter who pulled the knife out.

Cinebinge

okay just to clarify. we're not ACTUALLY blaming Flynn. thats why we were laughing at the absurdity of feeling "irritated" that of all the things Walt should be blamed, this is the one thing he literally didnt do. we get why Flynn do it, we arent actually on Walts side or is against Flynn. we understand why he did what he did. again, thats why we're laughing at ourselves in the discussion after the episode.

Cinebinge

okay just to clarify. we're not ACTUALLY blaming Flynn. thats why we were laughing at the absurdity of feeling "irritated" that of all the things Walt should be blamed, this is the one thing he literally didnt do. we get why Flynn do it, we arent actually on Walts side or is against Flynn. we understand why he did what he did. again, thats why we're laughing at ourselves in the discussion after the episode.

Charlotte Drolet

I think the phone call was a way to show Flynn taking his mother's side. Throughout the show, Flynn has constantly taken his father's side. But with the situation with Hank not being there and Walt saying what he said he said, I think it finally clicked for Walter Jr. that his father may have done something bad to Hank. So for the first time, he defends his mother.

Jethro Divine

Simone, do not lie about food. It's glorious and deserves to be the truth.

PIG

The main writers, Vince Gilligan · Peter Gould, were on Fresh Air on NPR years ago before this last season and Terry Gross was asking about the inspiration to Breaking Bad. There were multiple influences, but one of them mentioned in the interview was a Japanese film called Ikiru (1952) where a Japanese businessman with no family finds out that he has terminal cancer. Knowing he is about to die, he spends the last of his life trying to build a playground in (I think) Tokyo where there's a lot of red tape barring construction. But he wants to leave some sort of legacy, something that matters, before he dies so throws himself fully in completing it. He succeeds and the movie ends, according to Gilligan, with him sitting on the swing of the fully constructed playground and then he just fades away. He dies and in his place is this playground to bring some joy in the world with his vanishing. When I saw this episode when it aired and the RV fading away I thought about Ikiru instantly. But as it fades out, Walt's legacy fades back in resulting in death and pain. This is Walt's legacy, not Ikiru. Walt tried, at least at first, to leave great things, but in the end he failed. Last thing! When it aired in Miami FL when I saw it on AMC that Sunday, a gigantic thunder storm hit. The thunder was so loud it rattled the windows. It hit just when Walter was fighting his family, that last bit of destruction, and I'll never forget it. It was incredible!

Swollen Purple Nut Sacramento Kings

It's more than that. He adjusts the mirror so he doesn't have to look at himself, but it points directly at the spot where Hank and Gomez are buried, symbolizing that he can't escape what his life has become.

Zinphad

Hank and Gomez dying at the start of the episode raises the stakes so much. You believe that Jesse, or Skyler, or Flynn, or even Holly might be in mortal danger.

Jay Willis

I was honestly mind blown at their reaction in real time to that scene and George calling the Flynn 911 call "bullshit", lol. I get the irony George was talking about, but during the reaction they were both saying that they didn't like the call Flynn made, it was...an UNUSUAL reaction. But I also enjoy seeing a different first reaction than mine. Obviously in the end discussion they talked about it and laughed at themselves for it. It's always fascinating to see unique reactions that differ from my own, even when our end feelings on it are largely aligned.

Homestar

It was very funny when after all the fucked up things that happen in that episode, that's the part that you had the most serious discussion about in the moment. No complaints, just really amusing.

China Andronicus

So excited you'll be watching the follow-up film! The indignation about Flynn's phone call was cracking me up. I can understand not liking lies but he wanted the cops there fast and "my mom pulled a knife on my dad" would not have been a great starter. The whole thing was complicated, and he wanted them there quickly.

Honey Hermsen

So happy you understood the phone call scene. Well, Walt's call that is

Glass (+ the Machines of God)

Walt, Jr said "I think my dad might have killed someone," and Skyler has every reason to believe Walt killed Hank. He did the right thing.

Jay S

If Better Call Saul is on the poll then it will clean house as it's the same audience as BB, which is fine as it's top 3 all time for me. But really hope you guys put Black Sails on the poll. Best show I've watched and can't think of another more up your alley.

Kevin R Studer

Nearly 300 people, either directly or indirectly, died because of Walter White.

Munir

Like most of the show, it's complicated. Walt didn't kill Hank but he is responsible for his death (along with Jesse and Hank himself and mostly the Nazis). And while he hasn't killed anyone this time, he fully believes that he sent Jesse to be killed, causing him to become a meth slave, and keeping Brock and Andrea in danger (he's the one who told the Nazis about them). Walt didn't start the knife fight, but he did try to take the knife from Skyler and was pinning her down before Flynn got involved. He could've kept his distance if he just wanted to talk. I'm also pretty sure he took Holly on impulse, and changed his mind after. I'm glad you guys picked up on the phone call, many people just take it at face value. We really see the highs and lows of Walt this episode.

DCray

You guys (understandably) missed the Easter egg where they show Walt's pants lying in the desert as he is rolling the barrel after his car stops. These are the pants we saw in the very first shot of the series flying through the air as Walt was racing the RV through the desert after gassing Crazy 8 and Emilio! Great overall reaction to the best ever episode of TV!

TechPriest

Honestly I liked it rather a lot. There are so many reasons to call the police on Walt we really don't need to make any up. That and I loathe false domestic violence claims - they undermine the credibility of women actually suffering from domestic violence and more directly, there's often no defensive recourse for the man involved. They wind up losing custody of their children based on she-said-he-said.

Deadly Ramon

Choosing Better Call Saul as their next TV show review is what I'd like to see, too.

Hi I'm George Junior, but my friends call me Geo-Ju

🖤There's a scene from episode 14 that reminds me of the comment section on this Patreon from time to time (Other Patreon pages as well, I'm sure). Someone posts a comment stating their opinion. Someone responds and doesn't like their opinion. They simply either strongly disagree, or they think the OP was being too mean to George and Simone so they comment in their defense, a back and forth ensues. Sometimes multiple people join in. Then George or Simone Chime in: "WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU?! WE'RE A FAMILY!!!" Ok, maybe it doesn't go down quite like that XD.

Paul G

Posted this after the Season 5 debut and I'll post again next week: When you guys finish the series there are two YouTube videos you absolutely have to watch, I really hope you'd even consider doing reactions to them. They both feature Bryan Cranston and Aaron Paul and are hilarious. Titles are: "Aaron Paul Discovers Bryan Cranston Living in Breaking Bad RV // Omaze" "Barely Legal Pawn, feat. Bryan Cranston, Aaron Paul and Julia Louis-Dreyfus"

Travis H

A couple little things about the episode Ozymandias. It was directed by the great Rian Johnson who also directed the episodes Fly, and Fifty-One (Skylar in the pool ep). And movies Knives Out/Glass Onion, Star Wars The Last Jedi (did you two ever see the sequel trilogy, I couldn’t find them), Brick, and Looper. All of those should be added to the rec list if they weren’t seen. One of the biggest production issues that came from Ozymandias was actually the placement of beginning credits. I forget which but one of the guilds (WGA,DGA,SAG) has rules on how late into the episode they could put the opening credits and they didn’t want to put it on the shootout aftermath thinking it would take away the tension. They had to get permission from the guilds for credit placement late into the episode, and they wrote the barrel rolling scene specifically for the credits. As someone else mentioned the Holly bathroom scene wasn’t planned to go that way. But Holly’s actress kept calling out for her mom and Bryan Cranston went with it creating the scene you saw. The writers of the ending Walt/Skylar phone call scene used a lot of the insults that “fans” would constantly use against Skylar/Anna Gunn during the run of the show. They essentially used their vitriol for the moment that Walt actually tries to help Skylar, which kinda seems nice in a really weird way.

Daniel Gurney

What a great reaction! I think a lot of us watch the reaction to Walts' alibi phone call closely to see how quick people realize what his intention is. You guys reacted the way I think most of us did as we watched it. A lot of people just think he went crazy. So glad I subscribe to you guys. Always the best reactions! Thank you!

TechPriest

If you want to talk up someone's credentials as a director, best to omit the part about them having anything to do with the most recent Star Wars trilogy.

Kevin Rogers

The only TV episode ever to have a perfect 10/10 rating on IMDB

mojo shivers

I love that Rian Johnson directed “Ozymandias” because you could tell there was a lot more directorial style to the episode. And all the directing choices along with the plotting/writing itself made it such a memorable episode even after so many years have passed since its airing.

Graeme McCutcheon

They actually had to get special dispensation from the various Hollywood unions to run the opening credits as late as they did; they obviously didn't want to impact the earlier scenes. The RV scene at the start was the final shoot of Breaking Bad, filmed after episode 16. I think the Jane revelation was 50% twisting the knife and 50% about the subtext: the "I could have saved her, but I didn't" was making sure Jesse knew he had made a choice about him there and then.

Patrick

I've had that pouch thing of fruit puree that Simone is referencing. It LITERALLY is baby food. My sister was babysitting once when I was younger and we had some leftover in the fridge and I ate one.

G P

Excited for Better Call Saul!

Actuarial Lurker

The phone call EXONERATES Skyer since the cops her Walt take credit for all the crimes

Parabolica

We’ll see what the poll results say, but as much as I loved BCS, I simply couldn’t get into it after immediately finishing BB. Hard to explain but it’s not the show you think it’s gonna be, and to me it felt weird being in the BB universe but with no Jessie or Walt. Like an open world game after you’ve completed all the quest and it’s just empty. But I went back to it a few years later (actually when you guys started watching Ted Lasso) and it hooked me in and boy oh boy are you in for a treat when you inevitably watch it!

Dan

I wouldn't necessarily describe it as "one huge show" only because they have very different flavors. Same high quality of meal (all the Michelin stars), but a different cuisine. I was super impressed with how they wrapped it up, too, putting a different light on BBad. But I'll say no more than that :)

Dan

Yeah, I hate how he slumps after that. He was initially fighting off the big guy dragging him to the car, but after the news he just let it happen and didn't care anymore. And I get/love Simone's reaction: Yeah, it's not just the shock that he found out -- this isn't how we wanted him to find out, either :'(

Ph4ZeD

You don't even need the poll George, Better Call Saul will win overwhelmingly.

miniature

then whats the harm in asking? why not just ask for peoples opinions and see what ranks 2nd and 3rd? if like you say, its gonna win anyways, why so worried about a poll?

jdupre7877

Congrats! Your the first reaction channel to acknowledge that Walt did NOT pull a knife on Skyler. Everyone else blindly accepted that statement and some actually shook their head in agreement. I'm guessing their hatred for Walt overshadowed the truth. I do find it interesting that Jr. was more on Walt's side the entire show then flipped 180 in that moment and protected his mom hence why he said whatever he needed to at that time. Great episode.

ATG

The point I thought they were trying to deliver with Walter Jr. saying his dad pulled a knife on his mom, saying he's dangerous, and physically protecting Skyler was to show how he finally saw his father for who he truly was and switched his opinion. Up until then during the show, he was repeatedly hard on Skyler -- who often had to be "the bad guy" (initiating the divorce discussions, returning Walter Jr.'s car, etc.) -- and protective of his poor, innocent dad.

Aye Ready

He still overpowered her and was wielding the knife when Junior made the phone call. Flynn also thinks that he killed Hank. So in Flynn's eyes, his dad IS dangerous

Brandon Meng

Am I high or was there no post-commentary about Holly? Sorry if it's weird to point out but I felt like this was the biggest emotional sequence of the episode.

micah

ah…at long last. ozymandias…

Dan

For those who don't know, white supremacist groups generally hate federal agents and have a long history of being against the FBI, ATF, DEA, etc. because of prior run-ins and being investigated by them (e.g. Timothy McVeigh, Waco, etc.). Many see it as an honor and a duty to take them out when possible. These are not the types who "back the blue" in that sense. When Hank said Jack had "made up his mind already", he meant it.

Rory McDonagh

Great reaction as usual guys. Hopefully even after these dark episodes you're keen for the final 2. Most BB fans consider Ozymandias the best episode of the show (some would call it the greatest TV episode ever, period) but the final two episodes are both amazing too.

Dan

There's a cool easter egg about the chess board in the fire station, but I won't mention it until the next episode :)

Siel sielll

he tells jesse he watched jane die because he feels jesse is the reason hank is dead

Hi I'm George Junior, but my friends call me Geo-Ju

🖤When these episodes were premiering week to week, the day after this episode aired, I saw a meme on Twitter. Top panel was Walt riding away into the sunset to start his new life with his new identity. The text was something like "Stop watching Breaking Bad here and ignore the final two episodes" And the bottom panel was a picture of Brian Cranston in Malcolm in the Middle sitting at the table with his family and he was making some silly face and the text for that one said something like "And just start watching Malcolm in the Middle and pretend this is the new life he started" LOL I still think about that meme to this day XD

Clint Murphy

You all getting hung up on Flynn's 911 call was cracking me up, I've never even seen someone mention that moment before, ha! He always saw his dad as the hero and his mom as kind of the downer, I think it was just the moment where he saw his dad for who he really is and was doing whatever it took to protect his mom.

Ryan Cali

In Oxymandias the director coaxed an incredible performance out of the 18 month old Hollie. 3 separate moments in 3 different scenes. Hopefully that didn't traumatize her too much to get them

Tee Pee

Man, you guys always seem to assume that people do logical, rational things in high stress situations. That's not how humans act...ever

Justin

Walt starts & ends the series with a confession tape from Tohajiilee

Brian Sittler

So the next big show after Black Mirror hopefully will be Better Call Saul. Please!

Allan Liebold

Hope you don't mind me adding another suggestion onto yours. This one's focused on Hank. A Funny or Die video called "Dean Norris Spoils Breaking Bad."

Nick Kessler

The phone call was not bs. he thought he might have killed hank. he said what he had to about the knife to get the police there asap because he needed help.

Grand Moff Slackin'

Why would you want to smack Flynn for calling the cops on his dad who was fighting over a large knife with Skyler?

Angzarr

This. This is the episode. - Hank and Gomie's deaths - "I watched Jane die" - Jesse beat to hell and chained like a dog, and the threat to Andrea and Brock - The Terrifying knife fight -- I was sure Skyler and/or Jr. were going to die - Holly's kidnapping and the "Mama! Mama!" in the bathroom. - Walt's phone call to Skylar that is both brutal and kind. I'm not someone who generally gets overly emotional about TV/Movies. It's all just pretend, right? But holy crap did this episode fuck with me the first time I saw it. This show is so well written and performed that I was completely sucked in, and I had to stop halfway through and process for an hour before I could continue. I wasn't quite right for a couple of days afterwards. With as empathetic as Simone is, I was honestly worried how she was going to do with this one. (George too, but I think Simone might be the most empathetic person I've ever seen)

REDR58

As much as I like this series and the reactions, I’d prefer they take a pause with the Better Call Saul/El Camino stuff for awhile, maybe 6 months or a year. Let’s watch something else for awhile.

An Inanimate Fucking Object

Initially had a much longer post about the reaction to Flynn's call to the cops. After reflecting and seeing the channel's responses to some other comments removed it. I understand the point they're making, but it's still a little disappointing that their hyperrational reaction to that inherently irrational situation seemed to get in the way of appreciating that hugely emotional moment and turning point

An Inanimate Fucking Object

Hello? Police? Come quick, akaTheBARON just posted a comment attacking/figuratively drawing a knife on George and Simone and he might have killed someone else in the comments

An Inanimate Fucking Object

And btw, generally love your reactions, you two are the best, just thought (even as a hyper-analytical person myself) it was a bit of an odd reaction to that scene

Thirty Year Old Mulberry Field

More if you consider some have probably overdosed on his meth or other’s who’ve been involved in its distribution. His empire has poisoned a whole chunk of the Southwest US.

Thirty Year Old Mulberry Field

It does have quite a cinematic feel doesn’t it? Breaking Bad gets this type of praise often but this episode in particular feels like the hand of someone who’s worked on larger scale projects, which of course Rian had done prior. Just like how other big names like David Fincher and Cary Fukunaga where experimenting with TV around the time of this episode’s release and their work and skill was also quite evident in their respective projects.

Kevin

Trust me, you MUST watch Better Call Saul soon. Its maybe hard to believe, but many agree its *at least* as good.

dys

Red Dead 2 is supposed to be a huge swath of the middle of America circa 1900. The opening chapter in the snow is probably Wyoming, the parts that look like the New Mexico you've seen in Breaking Bad probably are supposed to be New Mexico, Saint Denis is supposed to be New Orleans.

Bill B.

Glad you already plan to watch El Camino! Yes it is relevant as a type of car, but also look up what it means in Spanish.

Dustin Duvall

I work with someone named Ozymandias, only the one name and it is his birth name

Dustin Duvall

Oh and the shirt with no pants is how I work from home. Poohing it(like Winnie the pooh) is what I call it

Josh

I’ve waited months for these episodes. I’ve seen this series 5 times now and still get chills.

Josh

Also at the start of the season you guys were asking about a “big bad” are those nazies big bads enough for you now? lol Gus is the best villain in the series but he was a businessman who could be reasoned with. He had a code. Jack and his gang are pure evil.

Orphan Crippler

Breaking bad is the kind of show you watch when you need more stress in your life... Like sit down on the couch, put on an episode and just stress the fuck out..

JBK405

I feel like this episode actually is the perfect capstone to something that Saul said back in his second episode: Walt (And Jesse, but I'm talking about Walt) is a bad criminal. Just horrible at the crime aspect of it. He may be a brilliant chemist and manipulator, but that isn't enough. Throughout the entire series, Walt never managed to run his own crew. Every time he was successful (or at least close to it), somebody else was responsible for the management of the people. It was that person who had the respect and fear of their underlings. That was Jesse in the brief time they ran their own operation, Mike when they briefly teamed up, and Declan when he took over the operation. Walt's biggest claim to fame -- killing 10 people at the same time -- was all planned and arranged by Uncle Jack. Walt just bankrolled the operation. So here, when he gives what is possibly the single most important orders of his criminal career, Jack doesn't obey him. And it's not a deliberate mutiny or overthrow -- I think that Jack honestly thought he was coming to rescue Walt when he first showed up -- but just the fact that Jack never once considered Walt his boss. If any of the other bosses that we've seen in this show had told an underling "Don't come", they wouldn't have come. Tuco was crazy, but when he started beating one of his own men to death another one stepped forward to keep Jesse and Walt from intervening. if Tuco told one of his guys to walk away, they would have walked away. Gus we know was the methodical planner and paid well, so we can take it as a given that his guys would have listened to his plans. Declan...okay, we didn't know Declan very well, but I'll take it on faith his guys would have obeyed him. Even Jack's crew, despite being violent neo-Nazi thugs, follow their orders. When jack says to leave Walt a barrel with $10 million, they do it. They grumble about it, but they DO IT. Because they respect/fear Jack himself. Walt never gained that in his entire career. He was smart, capable, and willing to get his hands dirty, but he still never had what it took to actually run a criminal empire.

MasterElodin

@George its surprising to hear you say that you often dont explain yourself well and get misunderstood. I think its one of the big qualities of this channel that you can explain your thoughts about movies so clearly. And then we have Simone who is trying to explain herself well and just confuses everyone which makes the whole thing complete I guess :D

MasterElodin

Also am I like super confused? Cause at the end you said that you will watch the BB movie in the week after the last 2 episodes? So on july 2nd ? Cause in the reaction you said July 25th

RipTheRipper

Series Request: Looking For Alaska (1 Season)

James W.

Great reactions. Both episodes are heartbreaking but Ozymandias is insanely good. I think it wasn't Hank's death, but more that Walt would have to be the one to kill him, that snapped him out of it. He wasn't willing to do that so he was going to give up. At his core Walt knows he is wrong, he always has, but in the face of hurting family, even Hank, he couldn't live up to his own poisonous power fantasy. As has been the case the whole show, Walt's consequences never fall on him. As much as Walt resented the power Gus had over him, he was actually too weak to ever be a Gus. Mike was right, Mike was almost always right. Not to deify Mike because if you look at everything Mike facilitates, he is pretty damned evil. - Mike and Gus were like Lawful Evil, bad but had order and code they followed - Saul and Jesse were like Neutral Evil bordering on Chaotic Neutral, but neither of them "good". - Skylar was an npc victim at first but by the end probably just pure neutral and trapped. She kinda trapped herself though so it is really hard to have sympathy for her after she starts to commiserate with Walt in any way. I love her character and think folks who shit on her are incel weirdos. Jr. was spot on in this ep when he says she was as bad as Walt. - Hank was like a prideful Paladin, Lawful Neutral to start with but by the end I think he was too willing to do anything to get Walt and slipped a bit evil. - Gomez was one of the few in the show that i would classify as Good, basically legit lawman and didn't deserve what he got. -Marie was just nasty, like fun to watch but unwaveringly shitty, prideful, and petty. her only redeeming quality was her loyalty to Hank and her love for her kids. Even though all of those things were motivated by her own selfishness. Jesse was at least honest about his frailty, he knew he couldn't be that dude and has been mired in the business of far more evil men the whole show, and his fate is just heartbreaking because at his core was just a broken boy who needed some actual love an encouragement. Walt's patronizing love of him and Jesse's need for validation landed him right where he is.

Cinebinge

that would be me misspeaking. Finale episodes on June 25th, TV poll 26th, El Camino on the 2nd of July.

Allen Pass

It's fascinating to see so many people upset about you calling out Flynn. He lied to the 911 operator, pure and simple. I was more frustrated at how long it took for you guys to recognize that Walt's phone call was a way to get Skyler off the hook... When Walt said he warned her for a solid year, "you cross me there will be consequences", I expected one of you guys to ask yourselves if he has ever threatened Skyler in any part of the show. It effectively portrays that family was always the most important thing to Walt. I still can't get behind the Anti-Walt crowd.

MasterElodin

I mean he literally killed dozens of people or caused their deaths. Some innocent some not so much. But either way he did a LOT of really messed up stuff.

Brad Lowry

About Announcement of TV Plan for after Breaking Bad: • I love the plan, use "El Camino" as the the final of BB • Assess what TV Show to go with next May I posit two premises that I am guessing many of us might agree upon, including you guys: 1. You need a bit of a break from all the scheming in and around Albuquerque before diving into "Better Call Saul" 2. Even though you need a break, you don't want to wait too long before finding out what Vince Gilligan & Company has in store for Bob Odenkirk So I had an idea that would fit both premises and also let you extend your ingenuity of reacting to 1989 "Road House" and then immediately reacting to 2024 "Road House". I recommend watching "The Talented Mr. Ripley" from 1999 and the 2024 limited series "Ripley" on Netflix. Eight approximately 1 hour episodes and a movie will give suffient time to "reset" before starting "Better Call Saul", yet not so long that we feel that the "continuity" is broken. I fully expect robust debate among all of us Patreons on all of this, and especially, if it gets this far, on a further recommendation that you watch the 2024 "Ripley" first as it seems to me (and seems borne out midway through episode 1) that with 8 episodes "Ripley" is able to take more time and go into more depth than the 1999 movie was able to. That's my idea. Like I say, I'm sure a lot of my fellow Patreon members have other credible ideas and/or different takes on this idea... that's fine. The tricky thing is to air our different ideas without "spoiling" anything about our various suggestions... FWIW: $0.02 Happy Reacting!

Christopher Binfield

Breaking Bad is truly a tale about the consequences of one's actions

Efrain Zavala

I kinda want you guys to see Black Mirror S4E1. Jesse Plemons (Todd) is in it.

Steve H

This was the mother of all episodes, dispite what we have left.

Beddoe

I feel that you should wait a month or two before watching 'El Camino'. Let your thoughts and feelings about the finale and the series proper settle a bit. I'll watch either way though.

Christen

Hank: "It might be a while before I get home." Breaks my heart every time I rewatch.

Marcus

Bryan Cranston's acting during the call with Skyler is phenominal. Absolutely amazing show of anger and sadness mixed in

Ace

They didnt even consider that maybe walt jr just wanted help fast and was scared walt might kill skyler like he did hank

Michael

As much as Walt cared about Hank, he gave up the 80 million because he knew there was no way he could be with his family again if Hank died. Since Mary knew Hank was after him. Skyler and jr wouldnt forgive. He wants to be the big provider in the family. If there’s no family; it’s all for nothing. He had no problem driving into traffic with Hank earlier seasons. Same with the call to Skyler. If he knew the police were listening, he knew Mary was listening. Him and Skyler were still using Hank to play games and get her out of consequences. While Hank’s corpse was still fresh thanks to his friends. I don’t consider these acts selfless acts.

Stuart Ronkainen

I know I'm very late to this conversation, but I think Flynn 100% believed every word he said. He thinks his dad killed uncle Hank, and he had just tackled Walt, who had Skyler in a prone position with a knife in his hand. It doesn't matter that Skyler initially pulled the knife from the block - she only wielded it defensively in an attempt to keep Walt away from her and Flynn. The physical confrontation was all because Walt would not abide by Skyler's wishes to keep the fuck away from her.