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Dunkirk - Patreon Version (Patreon)

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No Sync Required Version: https://cinebingers.ca/knA2r9bZ93 - For Patreon tier "Bingers on The Wall" or higher.

Movie runtime: 1:46:38

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Jay Davis

I have been so looking forward to this! Thank you. And, don't worry, I won't bring up watching Drive (2011). To do so would be Stranger Than Fiction (2006). After all, I don't wanna stomp through comments with my recommendations like some kinda Godzilla (2014) or something.

djKENTO

LET’S FUCKIN GOOOOOO!! Got the 4K blu-ray ready. Got the bluetooth speaker for you guys ready… Let’s do this!

Maiki

My least favourite Nolan. It's of course really well made, but it just didn't catch me. Emotionally. Which is sad, because it's such a serious and important story. Actually i got a bit bored in the cinema back then. Haven't seen it since, so let's give it another shot with you guys. Edit: Might sound weird, but it catched me that it catched you. And that's why i love your reactions so much. Thanks. As mentioned by others, if you're interested in the political side of Operation Dynamo (and a lot more), you should watch Darkest Hour (2017) with a phenomenal Gary Oldman. Just two Nolans left for you now. His low budget debut Following (1998) and Insomnia (2002).

djKENTO

in the the 1940s Superman defeated THE CLAN OF THE FIERY CROSS on his radio show. There’s actually a great comic adapted and altered from it by Gene Luen Yang. A group of Chinese immigrants move to Metropolis and are attacked by the KKK and Superman steps in. It’s a great read. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superman_Smashes_the_Klan

djKENTO
>>144150076

There is also a recent FLASH animated movie where he goes back in time and helps the Justice Society during WWII and a whole run of Justice League Unlimited involving alien tech changing WWII.

JakeyShakeyBakeyBoy

Definitely a visual spectacle that really reminds of David Lean films in their scale. Funny thing is that the loud rifle sounds in this movie jump-scared more people in my local theatre than The Conjuring did, when I saw both movies respectively at their release haha. Also Zimmer’s score while loudly mixed is truly wonderful.

Opti_Frog

I know of at least one Batman comic from 1973, or rather a The Brave and the Bold comic, where Batman and Sgt. Rock is hunting down someone they believe is Hitler. But maybe Hitler was the Devil all along...? It's weird as fuck. 😄 Barry Keoghan's death really sucker punched George in the feels. 😭 Dunkirk is good, but omg i am so excited for Your Name tomorrow!

michael denny

spitfire only has enough ammo for about 14 seconds 300 to 350 rounds for each gun

gobmob2000

Nolan refused to use special effects to create the number of people to show the true scale of this, but in the film you see a few thousand extra's on the beach whereas in reality there where more then 300,000 people on that beach. The beach was completely full.

Jay Davis

I don't think you've done Nolan's Insomnia (2002) yet. That's a comedy... I think.

gobmob2000

George you keep mentioning that everyone is calm, contrary to popular believe, that is the norm. Most of the time people tend to be very calm during crisis situations, panic is the exception, not the norm. Having said that though, British people are known to be extremely calm, even more so then usual. During the Korean war, a British soldier reported back to a American command with typical British understatement, even though they where outnumbered 8 to 1, he reported that "things are a bit sticky sir", so American command assumed they did not need help, even though they where being overrun. Since that incident, American command is actually trained to keep an eye out for British understatement and simply understand that British people tend to act very calm. TLDR: when a brit says "things are a bit sticky", then shit hit the fan.

Funkachute

Please watch Insomnia. Overlooked Nolan film.

Martin Roca

Now you need to watch Darkest hour, its from Churchill side. This happened less than a year into the war, in June 1940, 5 years to go.

Darin Foat

This is my favorite Nolan film. It's definitely worth a second watch, to get all of the subtleties of how the different timelines are woven together.

Darin Foat
>>144158460

During the Falklands war a Royal Navy ship was critically damaged by torpedos from an Argentine submarine. While the crew assembled on the deck of the sinking ship to await rescue, they all started singing "Always Look on the Bright Side of Life" from Monty Python's Life of Brian.

Paul G

Second the calls to watch Darkest Hour now too. It's basically the same events told from the British government point of view. The two movies came out the same year which lead to some fans making super cuts blending them into one story.

Vincent Masschelein

I have never seen this movie before and I’m not even 5 minutes in and it really takes me. I’m from the south-west of Belgium, near French border, about an hour driving for me. These streets and houses from the opening scene look a lot like the streets and houses where I live. I’ve never seen a war movie so recognizable for me.

REDR58

While I enjoyed this movie, I feel that Nolan not using some more CGI is a detriment to storytelling. Evidently he used flats for distant representations of people and equipment, which is fine. That was done in movies like “The Dirty Dozen” in the 1967 and surely other movies and you probably even wouldn’t notice it unless you looked hard for it. But the apparent insistence on using as little CGI as possible can go too far sometimes, I think. I understand there may be technical and other reasons for this but it sometimes makes his movies feel small. For example, somebody mentioned earlier there should be a lot more people on the beach. That should be done with CGI if you can’t get enough extras to do it. Another for example, the “Trinity” test explosion in Nolan’s “Oppenheimer” looks really underwhelming especially compared to another depiction of the Trinity test (created with visual effects) in an episode of the most recent season of “Twin Peaks.” And that show has some really “bad” CGI (not at all to the show’s detriment!). The thing with the beach landing of the Spitfire looks great, of course, until we see the burning “aircraft” at the end when it is clearly a mockup with a long shaft holding the propeller on to the wreckage when in reality there should be a massive Rolls-Royce Merlin engine visible in the nose. It shouldn’t be that much more difficult or expensive to visually stick in a fake burning or even CG engine in there. Likewise, I think nearly all of the larger naval vessels shown in this movie (not the little boats) were built in the 1950s and not the from the real time of this movie (1940) and of course the ships would have been built prior to this, possibly as far back as WW1. Now, granted that the UK or other nearby countries may no longer have surviving vessels of the time period (or that they could even get to the filming location if they existed) and that is totally understandable. You can only use what you have, but I think some clever use of CGI could with some judicious use of the technology, “painting on” a more contemporary-looking vessel over the existing more modern one. That sort of thing has been done in movies before. Or just use CGI for long shots. For example, the 2022 movie “Devotion” recreated the look of aircraft carriers used in the Korean War and no such examples of vessels of that time still exist or at least that have not been extensively modified such that they no longer look as they would at the time, yet the filmmakers made use of careful visual effects and even full scale props built on land and all the hardware that was recreated for that movie looks great. But I prattle on.

WayneC

George, the Spitfire Mk I had 8 0.303" machine guns, 4 in each wing. They are mounted and fire outside the propeller arc. The Messeschmitt Bf 109E, the German fighter, had two machine guns above the engine firing through the propeller arc, with some variants having 2 x 20mm cannon in the wings. Aircraft with guns firing through the propeller have a device fitted to the engine that is used to time the gun firing. The first aircraft to fire through the propeller arcs in WW1 used deflectors on the back of the propeller to stop damage from teh buullets. By the end of the war they were using interrupter gears. Later versions of the Bf 109 had a cannon that fired through the propeller hub, while later Spitfires had 2 x 20mm cannon and 4 x 0.303" machine guns. The Spitfire in the film glided too long IMO. Certainly it would not be able to fight. The screams of the Junkers Ju 87 Stuka dive bombers was produced by sirens fitted to the fixed landing gear. They also put devices called "Jericho Trumpets" on the fins of the bombs to make screaming noises, all aimed at terrorising those being bombed. There were over 2,500 fighter sorties in support of the Dunkir evacuations, along with hundreds of bobing raids and recaonnaissance flights.

Smooticus

I saw this at Imax when it was released. Really the best way IMO since seeing it a few times since. Headphones are a big plus - the sound design is amazing

WayneC

Some more war movies you guys should watch: Das Boot - follows a German submarine crew in a sortie in the Atlantic. Greyhound - follows a US destroyer escorting a convoy of supply ships to Britain during WW2. Stars Tom Hanks. The Dambusters - old British film that follows the development of a weapon and its use to destroy German dams. When the film was made some of the details were still classified. The Great Escape - based on the story of the escape from the POW camp Luft Stalag III. Rogue Heroes - the story of the creation of the SAS in North Africa. Tora,Tora, Tora - the story of the bombing of Pearl Harbor (you could also watch Pearl Harbor, but that is more about a love triangle than the war) Masters of the Air - recent 9 part series by the team that did Band of Brothers. IMO, not that great a series, but does give some idea of the US bomber war.

Deco

The kid who plays George is great in the banshees of inisherin, same writer as in Bruges. One for the future hopefully as well as 3 billboards

REDR58
>>144167096

“Pearl Harbor” is an abomination compared to “Tora! Tora! Tora!” 😄 Seriously, it’s no comparison. If someone is interested in watching a movie about Pearl Harbor, watch “TTT” or at least watch it after “Pearl Harbor” so you can wash the awfulness of the newer movie away. But I wholeheartedly agree with all of your other recommendations!

REDR58
>>144166022

And of course the “Bf 109” seen in this movie is not a “real” Bf 109 as it is in actuality a Spanish built licensed copy (a Hispano Aviación Buchón) of the German fighter using a different engine which makes the nose look wrong for anyone who is familiar with the historical aircraft. But, close enough. Though I really wish Nolan had used CGI to visually modify that aircraft so it looked closer to the real thing. This sort of thing was done in “Top Gun Maverick” to make the 2-seater F/A-18 with actors in the rear seat look like singe-seat fighters and I think the results are quite good. Here are some information about the aircraft and scale models used in “Dunkirk”: https://warbirdtails.net/2021/02/11/silver-screen-warbirds-movie-colours-part-1-dunkirk/ https://www.aircraftrestorationcompany.com/hispano-buchon https://www.flitetest.com/articles/dunkirk-filming-aerial-scenes-with-rc-aircraft

VinnyAhhh

It does a good job of portraying the British side of the event but (understandably due to story/focus) neglects to include the impact from the non-British participants. Adapting a comment from someone who knows the history better than me: "The French are barely portrayed in the film, but they played a huge part in the evacuation process. It was because of them holding the lines versus the Germans that the British were able to evacuate. IRL, around 100,000 French troops were evacuated to England after the large majority of British troops had been evacuated. The film also doesn't include any British Commonwealth troops whom were there too. The only minorities in the film were African-Frenchmen on the docks complaining about not being able to get on the boat (Medic boat). The Royal Indian Army Services Corp companies were not only on the beach, but tasked with transporting supplies over terrain that was inaccessible for the British Expeditionary Force’s motorised transport companies. The film also ignores the fact that lascars, mostly from South Asia and East Africa, counted for one of four crewmen on British merchant vessels, and thus participated in large numbers in the evacuation. In addition, the French army deployed at Dunkirk included soldiers from Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia and other colonies, and in substantial numbers. In all, around 120,000 French soldiers who were evacuated from Dunkirk and there were also 40,000 French soldiers who fought and defended the city. The said scene was very brief and felt too weak for the role they actually played in the whole evacuation."

punterjoe

Batman AND Superman both "helped the war effort" with some blatantly racist films during the WW-2. The animated Superman foutght the "Japoteurs" and Batman broke up a Japanese spy ring in one of the live-action saturday morning movie serials. Both are a bit cringe-y today, but yeah, even comic book superheroes got involved in Hollywood's 'war effort'.

Opti_Frog
>>144165605

That episode of Twin Peaks is one of the most spellbinding pieces of television i have ever seen. I utterly adore it.

Pravda

So glad to see the calls for "Darkest Hour"! I'd like to add another. I've always considered the story of the Dunkirk evacuation one of the most amazing and uplifting examples of the human spirit and of British resolve. Gary Oldman is mindblowing in the role of Churchill.

D. T. Nelson

Has Zimmer's score for this film was amazing. Not something one would listen to casually (like his music for The Last Samurai, or Howard Shore's score for Lord of the Rings), but it provided a constant feeling of anxiety and impending doom until the end. As for Nolan... yes, once again he employs his "time f*ckery" (this time as a story-telling tool rather than a plot device). A Christopher Nolan comedy? Maybe a remake/sequel of Groundhog Day with a more chaotic time loop (except Nolan would never do a remake of anything).

REDR58
>>144171872

Let’s not forget Captain America who first appeared in 1940. He was created explicitly as an anti-Nazi figure. He also later knocked out Hitler over 200 times! 😄

Odd Thomas

This is a great theme park experience of Dunkirk but the lack of dialogue, jumps in time and no real main character mean it doesn't hook me emotionally as much as, say, Interstellar or Inception. Mid-Nolan for me. If I could recommend one war film it would be A Very Long Engagement, which focusses on France during WW1 and stars Audrey Tautou (Amelie). If I could recommend two, I would also choose Testament of Youth (2014), again WW1 but focusing on a British nurse (based on true events).

Odd Thomas

A great Cillian Murphy movie (my favourite) is Sunshine (2007)

Alex Ch

The one really good Nolan remaining is Insomnia, which is definitely worth a watch.

BlakeK80DrumCovers

As a Brit, this movie crushes me. Just to add a touch of perspective as to why this evacuation was necessary. The British and French high command were utterly convinced that there was no way the Germans could pass through the Ardennes and flank them from the south... but that's exactly what they did, and at lightning speed. The alies were cut off and surrounded. Getting that many men off the beach was incredible. If Britain fell, it was game over for the war in Europe. Also the "Gibson" character was put in the movie as a metaphor for French bravery. Holding the line while people were evacuated. He saved so many men and gave his life doing so.

sarCC
>>144149665

I think I rate only Tenent lower. I can't argue that this isn't great on a technical level(cinematography, sound and special effects), but, like every Nolan movie after Inception, it just doesn't work for me, especially on an emotional level. I don't know if its the writing, direction, or what, but none of his characters feel emotionally real to me. Some performances are good, like many in Interstellar, but their actions and...I guess their dialogue(?) comes across either weightless or just going-through-the-motions. Hell, Nolan himself has shown he doesn't care how his characters come across, letting much of their lines go unheard, even in a theater with the best sound presentation. It's a choice he's made and I just can't get on-board.

Grumblefunk

I remember not really diggin this one in the theater, it was so goddamn loud and my ears were stilling ringing from a metal show the night before. It's under 2hrs so I'll give it another shot here lol

Harry Fieldson

Us Brits like to have friendly banter with the French, but I've never been a fan of people genuinely insulting them with all the surrender jokes or whatever. My grandparents were alive during the Blitz, and my home city was absolutely levelled in places. If the French hadn't held the line like they did on the beach at Dunkerque, god knows what my country would look like today.

SpankTheMonk

Insomnia - Christopher Nolan’s remake. Please consider it for an up coming poll. Great film. (Adding to the choir)

Ludovic Ligot
>>144204441

Yes, the last Nolan's movie they should watch ! "Following" is not bad at all, but they can skip it...

REDR58
>>144204043

As an American, I have no time for French surrender jokes either. Without them, my country might not even exist.

REDR58

Also, George, yes many if not most WWI fighter aircraft had a gun or guns in (or on top of) the nose firing through the propeller arc, though some also had a gun mounted on top of the upper wing in addition to or instead of a nose gun so the gunfire would clear the propeller arc, dispensing with the need for special interrupter gearing or bullet deflectors as mentioned earlier. However it also made it harder for the pilot to access the weapon to reload or unjam it. Tradeoff, always. I can’t think of any WWI fighter with wing guns. If any existed, it wasn’t common. Wings were simply too thin to mount guns. A number of fighters in WWII also had guns in the nose, as previously mentioned, also using interrupter gearing or having a cannon mounted centrally in the engine and firing through the center of the nose cone. I can’t think of any WWII British fighters that had nose guns, but nearly every other major combatant nation in the war had at least one or more types of fighters with nose guns. The reason for having wing guns vs nose guns can be down to needing space for fuel tanks in the wings, the main landing gear location, the size of the wings, etc. It all depends on the design of each specific aircraft. Guns and especially cannon are large, heavy and need room for themselves and the ammunition. Putting a weapon in a wing vs the nose can affect the aircraft’s center of gravity. Again, tradeoffs.

REDR58

The evacuation of Dunkirk ("Operation Dynamo") occurred between May 26th to June 4th, 1940. The second World War began on September 1st 1939 with the invasion of Poland by Germany and ended on September 2nd, 1945 with the surrender of Imperial Japan to the Allies.

Amelie W

If I had a boat I'd name it Two Robocops, after the two bravest men I ever knew. No but I like the name Rose of Nowhere.

Garin

Man, I love Nolan. One of my favorite directors alongside Denis Villeneuve, but this movie just didn't work for me. It left me feeling... bored? I'm not sure how to articulate it but it felt sort of like a documentary with beautiful cinematography. The soundtrack was amazing though and so many shots in this film look like a painting.

Brendan Rafferty

George and Simone… since education in Canadian schools is lacking 😀 here’s an interesting bit of trivia about the actual evacuation you might appreciate. First, you need to know this was probably Hitler’s greatest blunder. This was very early in the war and the German Army pushed into France further and faster than the British expected. This British blunder allowed their army to be filly surrounded and cut off at Dunkirk, with their backs to the sea. German generals were prepared to roll into Dunkirk and destroy or capture the entire British expeditionary force. Hitler refused to allow his generals to push in with their armor and infantry. Looking back on the incredible loss of life in World War Two it’s hard to imagine that at the time, this early in the war, German losses were relatively low. France had mostly fallen and Germany had suffered just over 20,000 dead… to Hitler those was incredible numbers, considering as a World War One veteran himself, he remembered over a million and a half Germans killed over years fighting for just a few miles in France. Hitler’s generals told him that German casualties attacking the British Army in Dunkirk would be more than they suffered up to that point… but they also stressed the importance of destroying the British Army and not letting them escape to fight another day. Hitler’s political advisors told him destroying the British Army at Dunkirk would force the British to surrender. Hitler ignored all their advice because he was concerned about German losses… so he ordered German Army hold their positions and let the air force destroy the British at Dunkirk. This blunder by Hitler allowed 338,000 British soldiers to escape back to England and return to their units to fight another day. If Hitler had allowed his Army to roll in with tanks and infantry, he could have destroyed the British Army and forced a British surrender. Hitler could have wondered the war. With Britain out of the war, the US and Canada would have no bases in England to use to launch air attacks and an eventual invasion. Hitler would have won in the West and been able to focus on the East and had the uninterrupted means of production to build his war machine. His stupid choice to not risk a few thousand German lives at Dunkirk ended up costing him a few million German lives over the next five years

Odd Thomas

Another good Dunkirk-related movie: Atonement, with James McAvoy

Dustin Duvall

Was able to stream on Prime in Argentina

Liam Maguire

I was fortunate enough to witness and touch one the 76 remaining airworthy Spitfires in my hometown recently. The sound is something to behold. The dives and turns shook us whilst we sat with drinks near the sand dunes of our beach. I can only imagine the pride seeing those Spitfires flying overhead in wartime.

Chris Truex
>>144207386

The P-38 had nose cannon... but that's cheating since there wasn't a propeller there :D

Jay Davis
>>144281187

When I was in CAP as a kid way back when, I was lucky enough to be tasked with wiping down a P-51 Mustang that was kept in a hangar at the AFB where we practiced. It was in bare metal, unpainted. One of my strongest memories from my youth. What a machine that was.

Justin Leone

How do you add time fuckery to a historical war drama? He found a way.

WayneC

Another war film I would like to recommend is "Valkyrie" starring Tom Cruise. It is based on the true story of an attempt to kill Hitler in WW2.