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Star Trek: The Original Series 109-110 (Patreon)

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2024-08-14 12:00:04
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2026-01-08 03:08:18
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Episodes: Dagger Of The Mind & The Corbomite Maneuver

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Mastervodo

Here I came for diet advice, and I was sooooooo disappointed.

JakeyShakeyBakeyBoy

Well I’ve got inherited saffron spice as an heirloom which is a thing, in case y’all aren’t sure something like them gets passed down haha. Also Tantalus I’m pretty sure is the dude who was punished to be almost able to reach fruit above him for eternity? My Greek mythology is hazy these days but it makes sense naming a penal colony in this episode after someone being punished, I guess. Also yup, the (spoilers…. …Vulcan Mind Meld…) is first used in the Dagger of The Mind ep and it’s great 😌

Da Big Appa

I would totally listen to a cooking podcast George (even a history of cooking?) or a food discussion podcast with both of you :)

Funny That

Best diet advice. Exercise. We've evolved to survive/endure near constant starvation. If you cut down on calories too much your body will fallback on to anyone of a number of copying strategies. One such fallback policy includes a obsessive storage and production of fat once you return to a normal diet.

Gathbard

Intuitive eating doesn't really work for a few reasons. When you get the "being full" sensation, it means that you're way more full than you should be, plus, if you're a fast eater (a problem in itself) you may eat a lot more before the sensation of being full reaches you. As a general rule it's always wise to leave the table when you feel you could still go for more. Another general rule is to only eat at specific intervals: breakfast, lunch, tea time if you really have to, dinner and avoid eating outside of those as much as possible. Also drink a lot of water. As far as "satiating cravings" I'm afraid it's just a matter of willpower (excluding actual medical issues, obviously). It's you saying to yourself "I'm not gonna" and have the willpower to stick to it. This without even taking things like "stress eating" and "sadness eating" into consideration (they are a thing). Take comfort in the fact that when you get your eating habits in check you'll be able to enjoy that snack every once in a while. This is as much I can comfortably suggest without worry, but I would look for professional nutritional advice if you feel that managing your eating habits is turning into a problem.

Maiki

It's not embarrassing, Simone. It's likable.

Itbewhatitbe
>>146520439

im sorry to say but thats a very outdated thinking and proven to be wrong. exercise is for being healthy, not losing weight. when you burn more energy through exercise, you get hungrier and tend to eat more, as you say the body tries to bring itself back to balance. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPrjP4A_X4s&t=0s this one explains it really well

Paul Peavler

So I don’t think you guys recognized him, but the kid the played the alien at the end of Corbomite Maneuver is Clint Howard, Ron Howard’s brother. He has a small role in a lot of movies and shows (especially Ron Howard movies), including Apollo 13, Austin Powers, The Waterboy, etc. He has also played several roles in multiple Star Trek shows from here in TOS to even guest appearances on the modern shows Discovery and Strange New Worlds. And to Simone’s comment, he even played a Ferengi in one episode of another Trek series.

D. T. Nelson

Childhood food trauma: I never had much trouble eating whatever my mother made for dinner—except for liver and onions (the onions weren't the problem, it was 100% the liver's fault). I (and my sisters) would be forced to sit at the table until we had finished. We would sit there for HOURS... and never finished the liver. I seem to remember my sister actually falling asleep at the table with uneaten liver still on her plate. At some point my mother just stopped making the liver.

Gaius Frakking Baltar

Appearing as a space alien in Star Trek probably helped Clint prepare for his role as a NASA mission controller in brother Ron's movie, Apollo 13 🙃

Lanny Fisher

The little kid is Clint Howard, Ron Howard’s brother. You’ve seen him as an adult in Apollo 13, Austin Powers, and probably a few other things.

WayneC

Isn't the Prime Directive to not interfere with the development of primative cultures?

Actuarial Lurker

Dagger of the Mind- the state of US Mental Health Care Services and the Private Prison System

Actuarial Lurker

The Corbomite Maneuver is a great episode- the 7 year old actor at the end that play the alien is Clint Howard the brother of actor/director Ron Howard

Monica Alarcon

The Corbomite maneuver is actually the first episode produced after the pilots so they where still feeling thing out. That's why Its so different. That's why Uhura is in yellow and that's why it seems Rand lost weight.

Actuarial Lurker

They voiced over with the same actor who was LURCH for the puppet monster and then an adult actor lip-synch for the final scene

Darin Foat

This episode was the first one shot after the pilot, but the effects were more complicated, which slowed down post production, and it ended up airing later. A lot of the details about the Trek universe were still being worked out in these early episodes. Starfleet and the United Federation of Planets aren't mentioned until a bit later in the season.

sol stapleton
>>146529715

I know I thought the kid looked familiar and when the credits appeared I literally whent "holly shit".

Monica Alarcon

Yeah the duplicate Earth from Miri was never explained onscreen. In a sequel novel it was just an Earth colony, not a duplicate but in another Star Trek novel it was an Earth from a parallel universe.

Monica Alarcon

Clint Howard DOES play a Ferengi much later in Star trek Enterprise!

Patrick
>>146531040

They were definitely a bit loosey-goosey with the prime directive in the original series.

Jeff I.

Speaking of childhood food trauma, my parents were never like Simone's about food. However, I had a middle-aged babysitter who made me lunch consisting of scrambled eggs with a bunch of cottage cheese mixed in. I was a very picky eater as a kid who liked neither of those things and refused to eat it. She made me stand in a corner with my nose touching the wall for a while until I ate it. My older brother told my mom about it, and my parents never let her babysit me again. I wouldn't call it trauma (I have a much bigger food palate now and love eggs!), but standing against that wall is one of my earliest memories, since I would have been like 4 or 5.

Skyruff Creative

The next two weeks will be some of the TOS best episodes.

Funny That
>>146525414

Was also the star of the 'Gentle Ben' show that George would find an insanely dangerous premise for a show, and Simone would just find adorable.

Mycenaeus

The Corbomite maneuver was the first episode produced after the second pilot, and thus the intended introduction of Bones. The next episode in production order was Mudd's Women, so it is not that surprising that they both stick out as a little odd when watched in initial broadcast order.

Emily Ridenour

Food Comment here: The ONLY thing that has ever worked for me was the "add, not subtract" method of healthier eating, coupled with intuitive eating. For example, rather than knowing that I want potato chips and feeling guilty about wanting them, restricting myself, and then binging on them anyway later,, I try to add something nutritious like apple slices in addition to some potato chips. Then I have both, satiate the chip craving, reduce the scarcity mindset around "junk food" being now or never, and I try to savor it and stop eating the snack when I'm no longer hungry. Also grew up with the "clean your plate" ideology and eating way too fast is a constant struggle.

REDR58

No negative food stories from growing up but I like to joke with people that I eat so slowly that I’m hungry again by the time I finish. Unless I’m eating with someone I don’t care about food or think about what I want to eat until I get hungry. My partner on the other hand is a professional pastry chef and she loves to make elaborate creations so it works out well for me.

Raven Dark

Just in case I forget later, the titles of the episodes aren't on here. It doesn't bother me, but I assume you want them there because the numbers of the episodes are wrong for some viewers because of the pilot episodes or whatever. It looks like the titles for these two should be "Dagger Of The Mind," and "The Corbomite Maneuver." Looking forward to watching these later when I'm done work for the day!

Alan Kobb

Interesting trivia. the part of Balok in The Corbomite Maneuvor was played by Clint Howard, the younger brother of Director Ron Howard. He has appeared in many of his brother's movies, such as Apollo 13 as well as several of the Austin Powers movies and Solo: A Star Wars Story. Actually, 10 years later teenage Clint Howard auditioned for the role of Luke Skywalker, but George Lucas recognized him as Balok, and his laughter caused Howard to flub his lines! Oh, and the alien ship was made of ping-pong balls and glue.

Young Blood Priest
>>146579331

If I remember correctly Clint Howard got his start when he was around 3-ish on the Andy Griffith Show with his big bro Ron. Clint played Leon, the little boy in the cowboy outfit that was always offering to share his pbj sandwich with Andy and Barney. Just a little useless trivia.

R Harper

Space Baby? TV shows are created at a certain time and place that cannot be changed. So calling them out for issues beyond their control is like looking at a picture of yourself when you were young and saying how bad your clothes look by today's standards, when at the time you were "stylish". Surprise that you can't react to some of these television episodes with a historical perspective. In 1966-67 The original Star Trek series was trying to produce the equivalent of half a sci-fi movie every 8 days. To that end they did the best they could portraying aliens. Noted you both took exception to the dog with the antennas in The Enemy Within episode and of course you have issues with the Baylok (space baby) both IMO we're good efforts for 1966. Very easy to ridicule, deride and mock more difficult to understand the time they came from. Clint Howard the child actor did great in that role it worked within the script as a subverted expectations by being a small benevolent alien as opposed to a bug-eyed monster. The episode itself worked we got insight to the character of Kirk, Spock, McCoy, and Bailey. It's spoke to a lot of things considering it was the first episode filmed. Miri episode that shows a parallel Earth and that was the case because they already had a matte painting that they could use and didn't have to spend money painted a new one. If you watch carefully they reuse a lot of planets by changing the coloring or flipping them 180. George you continue comment on there should be cameras in the Enterprise. You grew up in a camera generation cameras everywhere and if you have a phone nowadays you carry a camera with you. Not so in 1966 I was in the service that time there were no aircraft carriers or submarines or businesses very few (even government insulations) that had cameras. You guys do a great job!

Michael Kemmet

To George(mostly): Apologies if this has been brought up before(or if you already knew it coming into the series), but I hope you know that Zapp Braningan from Futurama is modeled directly on Kirk, mostly from TOS. Or rather that Zapp is a middle aged version of Shatner's portrayal of Kirk. Sort of two parts Shatner the actor, one part Kirk the character.

JBK405

Two Spock facts from these two episodes: 1) The invention of the Vulcan Mind Meld was driven by bizarre executive orders: Originally they were going to use hypnosis, but a studio executive was worried about people in the audience being hypnotized by accident. They also said that McCoy should be the one to do it since it was a medical procedure. So instead they invented the Mind Meld and had Spock specifically say that it wasn't hypnosis. 2) Leonard Nimoy pointed to one specific moment in "The Corbomite Maneuver" as the exact moment when he 'got' Spock: When the giant sphere ship appears on-screen, the camera zooms in on Spock and he quirks an eyebrow and says "Fascinating". He says that this was where he got a good hold on the character. Regarding the rotating crew on the ship, this was 50% deliberate choice and 50% the studio being CHEAP. Most of the actors were hired with 'percentage' contracts, they had to appear in X number of episodes for every Y episodes filmed. James Doohan (Scotty), for example, HAD to be used in five out of the first thirteen episodes. For the rest of the episodes they could choose to use him or not. In "Dagger of the Mind" Scotty was originally going to be the one manning the transporter console, but it would have been much more expensive to hire Doohan for the episode than to hire a day player to shoot one scene. So they dropped Scotty and had a random crewman there since they had already filled his required quota of episodes. So every time they wrote an episode, they would think "Does it HAVE to be Scotty/Sulu/Uhura/etc. or can we just throw somebody else in there and save the cash?" The other 50% was a deliberate effort to create a lived-in ship like you said, with shift changes and leave times and everything else. One of the things I really give Gene Roddenberry credit for was his effort to fill out the background cast of extras. If you ever take the time to review all the insert shots of people walking down hallways and such, you'll see a (relatively) high proportion of women and people of color (Primarily black people, but occasionally Asian people as well). Roddenberry had to actually work to get that kind of cast, since the standard backgrounds extras for every other show at the time was an interchangeable cast of handsome white men in their 20s and 30s. The fact that he would specifically say "No, we need more black people and more women just walking down the hallway" was one of those small things that stood out at the time. As the show goes along and Roddenberry had less involvement (Behind the scenes wackiness) you will actually see those extras transform into that mob of whiteness. And not on purpose, but just because there was no longer somebody specifically ordering a mix of people when requesting 20 extras for a day's work.

JoeNotCharles

The only "trick" for cravings that worked for me is gum, because usually I'm not actually hungry, I'm craving the sensation of eating.

REDR58 (edited)

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2026-09-14 06:00 George, I know you didn’t think much of Marianna Hill’s (Dr. Noel) performance but the interesting thing is that she ended her 45-year professional career teaching at the prestigious Lee Strasberg Theatre Institute in New York and then the Lee Strasberg Studio in London. Lee Strasberg was a director, actor and acting teacher who probably most famously played Hyman Roth in “The Godfather Part II.” Marianna Hill played Fredo’s wife in the same movie. It’s interesting how the women in the pilot wore less revealing, more unisex clothing because those skirts are of course very short and were clearly designed and kept for sex appeal. I think I enjoyed “The Corbomite Maneuver” more than the both of you did. I didn’t find “Space Baby” Balok strange at all and the pacing didn’t bother me because slower paced TV is something I grew up with. And wait until you get to “Star Trek The Motion Picture”… I’m very curious how you two react to that.
2024-08-15 05:12

Simon Pegged Me
>>146553565

Thanks for that note. In my mind, I thought this was the first Star Trek episode. There are signs that might be the case: Crew members had those original colored shirts (Uhuru in gold, for instance); Kirk says, "This is the United Earth Ship Enterprise," instead of "This is the United Federation of Planets or Starfleet vessel"; there are actual phaser crews operating the phasers (I think we get to see a phaser crew in a later episode before the concept is abandoned). Good to know I wasn't totally off.

Simon Pegged Me

"I see you've managed to get your shirt off." – Sir Alexander Dane, presumably after seeing Kirk getting his physical

Zephyr (AD)

I definitely appreciate the commentary on "The Corbomite Maneuver" and the parts that worked for you and didn't work for you as first time viewers. However, it's hard to overstate how certain theme's or titles from TOS stuck around in some circles as meme/nerd currency. "Ah, so you're going with a Corbomite Maneuver! Clever. Dumb, but clever." That sort of thing ^.^ While some have faded, you may recognize some of these as you continue through the series. Also, to comment on the shaky scenes: It's both the actors and camera shake. (But fixed sets). Although you probably should wait until after your watch-through just to best avoid any possible spoilers, you can find some great examples of scenes without the extra camera tilts/shakes by looking up "stabilized star trek" (my current favorite is by theflinx) to see the actors throwing themselves across the sets to see the difference.

Robert Evans

Clint Howard who played the alien has been with Styar Trek to the current day as he had a role in Season 2 of Star Trek: Strange New Worlds.

Robert Evans

should we warn Simone for the episode that might require tissues?

Michael Bauer
>>146596898

Regarding the mini-skirts - I always like to go back to what Nichelle Nichols had to say about it: "In later years, especially as the women’s movement took hold in the seventies, people began to ask me about my costume. Some thought it “demeaning” for a woman in the command crew to be dressed so sexily. It always surprised me because I never saw it that way. After all, the show was created in the age of the miniskirt, and the crew women’s uniforms were very comfortable. Contrary to what many may think today, no one really saw it as demeaning back then. In fact, the miniskirt was a symbol of sexual liberation. More to the point, though, in the twenty-third century, you are respected for your abilities regardless of what you do or do not wear."

Andrew Roach

I loved how clever the episode was with the puppet, to make people think that it looked fake and then the twist reveal that it was fake in-episode. Also early in the run instead of using Starfleet, which they start using soon, they used the term UESPA, United Earth Space Probe Agency. And to better explain, the UFP (United Federation of Planets) is the organization of space faring and enlightened worlds joined together in peace and harmony sort of like a more effective United Nations or the later Old Republic of Star Wars. Starfleet (there was a time where there was debate whether this was one word or two but I believe one word won out) is not really the military arm of the UFP but the exploratory arm that also took care of defense but not offense.

Jonas

Okay, George doesn't like things that end with a space baby. No one let him play Half-Life!

Peter Dillard

Low calorie density and high liquid content (like watermelon).

Jon Johns

George!! I love you, man. I am old, like, older than your dad, I think. I lost 85 pounds when I was in my early 30s, just by walking / standing all day, and being super poor. I could no longer eat until I was stuffed. I was forced to use portion control. In my mid 50's I lost 52 pounds changing my diet to focus on fresh veg & fruits, low LOW carbs, tiny portions, etc. I believe, in my heart, it is like a "bad" addiction? But instead of hitting 'rock bottom' you have to hit a point to actually want to lose weight / get healthy. Once the desire outweighs everything else, you will stop and think, you will want to eat better / less, and manage your appetite better. You'll stop thinking of managing food like a punishment. If you aren't there yet... Then any moderation is impossible to even imagine. I believe in you, pal, you'll get there eventually.

Jon Johns

I want to suggest an off channel watch for you two. Just one episode of The Ren & Stimpy Show, called "Space Madness" - of course, if you like the weird, trippy, absurd nature of this early 1990's Saturday morning kids cartoon, you can watch more, but Space Madness is one of the most wild and weird episodes (my favorite is "The Littlest Giant") anyway, enjoy!

punterjoe

I loved hearing your food war stories. It's so reassuring to know it's not just me.😁 Discussing the Corbomite Maneuver, did you notice that the 'space baby' was Clint Howard? (Did he EVER have any hair???)

Jon Johns

OMG! I forgot this is the "Ron Howards' Brother" episode! Hahaha

Joe Concepts

By the end of THIS series, a lot of the rules and lore of Starfleet, the United Federation of Planets, etc, are a bit more fleshed out. But many first season episodes use weird, varied names for the organizations. Earlier TV wasn't above making things up as they go. More than later shows, anyway. The movies make a little more sense of it, and then TNG pretty much has it all figured out.

Matt88g

Always great to see Clint Howard

Justin Fries

Following on from Tantalus, Lethe was one of the rivers of Hades. Anyone who drank from it suffered complete forgetfulness. It was a good name for the woman whose persona was so subdued and blank in this episode. James Gregory (Dr. Adams) is well known for The Manchurian Candidate but I love him best as Inspector Luger on the show Barney Miller, which aired about a decade after this Star Trek episode. It is a *very* atypical cop show with a lot of dry humor, and well worth your time even if you watch a few episodes privately on your own. It had the first gay couple on TV as recurring characters, and like Star Trek it had a very diverse cast for the time. Jack Soo as Sgt. Nick Yemana was a particular favorite. In one episode another cop asked him if he ever pined for the old country, for the cherry trees and the rice paddies and the temples. "I'm from Omaha," Nick replied, confused. The other cop: "We got a city in Nebraska sounds just like that!"

algi

I love Clint Howard.

Sven Ketelhut
>>146697272

And one in DS9, Enterprise and Discovery ... basicly all ST Live Action shows except for TNG and VOY

Matthew Maxon

Tantalus (sp?) is the name of company that makes Stellaris video game.

Matthew Maxon

Try a Keto diet for weight loss. It's hard to start & need to read labels but I've lost about 75 lbs.

Marcus Hicks

I tend to make very large meals-based around carbs (potatoes, rice, pasta)-which I think split into 9 portions for lunches. I usally cook up 2 dishes so that I can alternate between them. That usually lasts me a whole month.