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'Empathy Recession' is a new phrase we heard recently to describe the online world.

And after going through many of the discussions in the recent polls, we just wanted to put out a reminder to everyone that while it can be frustrating when a poll does not go the way you personally wish it would go, it does not mean the movie or show you wanted will never be watched. It simply means it will be watched at a later date.

The one thing we always asked from everyone is to treat eachother with respect and civility, and to keep the peace is because all we really want to ensure everyone here have a good time, some escapism away from the unpleasantness of the real world. That's it. Which is why we put heavy emphasis on asking everyone to refrain from putting down others for having different preferences. To insinuate anyone who prefers X over Y must there for be something to be dismissive about and talk down to.

We have no problem with you sharing why you dislike something, in fact we encourage it, we want to hear your thoughts on why something didnt work for you. But saying "I dont like this because these reasons" is not the same as "People like that thing? I guess everyone here must be children/boomers/whatever dismissiveness". And we definitely, DEFINITLEY do not appreciate anyone who proceed to reply to multiple comments where people are celebrating their choice taking the lead with "You are wrong for wanting this". You have the right to dislike something, but you do not get to make others feel bad for liking it. You wouldn't loudly proclaim in a theatre lobby that anyone holding a ticket to another movie must be lesser would you?

So let other people enjoy their thing. Just as they should let you enjoy your thing when its time comes.

So please, please try to remember behind each name you see on screen is an actual person, who enjoy, laugh, cry and dislike things the same way you do. Be kind to one another. The rest of the internet is already going through an Empathy Recession, lets not bring that in here as well. Try to find common ground, ask them why they like something, see it from their point of view, walk a mile in their shoes, and if you still dont like it, then at least youre a mile away and got their shoes.

Love, S&G.

Comments

Erik Lepe

It sucks you guys have to constantly post messages like this.

Reid Mclellan

Fellow sopranos fans you gotta chill out, we'll get it next time 💯

Lewis Ward

If my choice isn’t chosen I use that opportunity to watch a new movie. If something is chosen that means that the biggest group of people are happy, that’s good enough for me.

Red Freckle

As a child/boomer I endorse this message. ❤️

Connor

Well said, this is why I love y’all ❤️ Wonderful humans

Texas J

... but I didn't get a chance to be condescending and judgy! :( Compassionate people always ruining a good time for bullies. (dripping with sarcasm if you can't tell)

Onno Smits

Urging closed minds to open is like asking a locked door to turn its own key.

keoma songs

The solution for Empathy Recession? Watching SILENT RUNNING (1972) ! Add it to the next poll, lol. But seriously, I must not read the poll comments that carefully or exhaustively because I haven't noticed much negativity but I guess it must be there.

CJGardner

I don’t know (or care) what kind of label this makes me, but at this level I find emotional self-preservation beyond valid, and if I had the option of blocking anyone abusive I would do it. It’s not blocking opinions or disagreements, blocking aggressive troll behaviour is different and something I think everyone should have a right to be able to do.

Jeff K.

Man, I love George and Simone. Sorry if that feels parasocial as fuck, because I know it does, but I really appreciate you guys saying stuff like this. It's highly appreciated. People need to fucking chill. Know what happens when something wins a poll that I'm not a fan of? I probably just don't watch it, and I move on with my life. It's really the easiest thing in the world to do and it's bonkers to me that some people can't wrap their heads around that and feel the need to attack others for liking things they don't. No individual person is the audience. Your personal opinion does not outshine any other opinion. It's easy. And it's even easier to just shrug and say "Well, maybe next time" and carry on with your life.

Inkpendude

You can also 100% say that you dislike something, or even hate it, and NOT sound like an asshole and antagonistic....yeah we get it. The sopranos didn't won't the poll. That doesn't mean everyone is stupid and you are an intelectual haha

Ronny Boss

Empathy recession is such a good way to put it.

Andrew R

Sopranos lost?! 😳

craig towell

i just sit back and eat pop corn

Robban6948

I love this! Right now, the world is scary enough. Let's be the change we want to see!

Man Goose

As a part man part goose I certainly don't appreciate that you don't appreciate me enjoying myself by ruining other people's good times. It's all I have since my goose wife left me. She even took the eggs.

Texas J

What's on the popcorn? :)

Jeff K.

Yep. Like, for example, next week's schedule isn't my favorite and I'll probably just skip a couple things. That's it. That's how easy it is. It's just like, "Oh, well, I'll find something else to watch instead" and boom, problem solved. It's not that hard.

BigSlice

I sometimes feel disappointed when my top choice isn't picked. Especially when I have no familiarity with the winning option. That said, seeing unfamiliar titles and shows on Cinebinge, Preview'd, etc is how I've ended up loving things I'd never have sought out to watch on my own. More than once I've even used the randomizer feature to find a title, watch it on my own, and then come back to the site to see the reaction. This is how I finally broke down and started Better Call Saul, Dead Poets' Society, snd The Terminal, and they were/are fantastic! If my pick wins a poll, I get to "join" two cool people enjoying something I love! If it doesn't win, I get to "join" two cool people in discovering something new! There's literally zero downside!

lalaland

honestly, if i were them, the way fans of a show behave would affect how much i want to watch a show. because if the fans of a show are a bunch of assholes towards fans of other shows, then i would think "okay im not watching that cause theyre gonna be assholes towards me no matter what i do, why would i want to be affiliated with these kinds of people"

Donna Castellano

The poll ends in 2 days. The Sopranos is like 70 some votes behind. Hopefully it'll be the next show they watch.

Andrew

Social media has poisoned our brains. I fear we will never recover and it will only continue to get worse.

edgard

Goose are woke now. That's why I prefer flamingos.

Jason

Based on what I've just read in the poll, you're no better than them by engaging them and continue to do so here after what S&G said NOT to do.

G4M1L

I totally agree, just find it a bit sad that this needs to be said at all. But from a stastical point of view I guess if the sample is big enogh you always get a few outliers.

FWPJR.

That’s why I don’t read the comments after I leave one or reply to a few after I wake up and see the post in the morning, I really wanted Sopranos to win the long show poll, but I’m not angry about it not winning atm and I’m not upset with anyone who didn’t vote for the show. Because I know you two will react to it sooner than later, plus I see no point in getting mad and arguing with people on the internet. No one wins and you never know who you are actually talking to or how old they are, I’m 42 years old and I wouldn’t want to be arguing with a teenager lol so that’s one of the reasons I never argue.

Jeff K.

The internet, in general, is both the best and worst thing to ever happen to mankind. There's really no in between.

Den

I think it's well said and you're right. Unless it's about Street Fighter the movie. Me and the five others who love it should be confined to an island and not allowed to interact with normal society.

Athenor

Guess I been missing out on the real drama by not making popcorn and hitting comments I've been disappointed in polls before but I typically wouldn't leave a comment unless I had a movie suggesstion that wasn't listed I know people like movies for all kinds of reasons, I might not share with them

Cody Cameron

I support that message and like you support other all the poll no matter what wins

lalaland

pot calling kettle black. but he blocked me right after so i guess what i say now is for everyone else except him. kinda cowardly. o well.

OldBeardedGuyReacts

It is CRAZY how many times a year this message needs to be posted

Paul Mix

Honestly I'm hoping for a show I'm not invested in so I can catch up with all the other reactions I *do* want to watch. :)

Cody Cameron

make that 6 othen then I also enjoy street fighter

SJB

Other subscriptions are available, if you don't like movies/series that win polls. I've dipped in and out. I'm "in" at the moment for TNG and Bond (but enjoying other things). You have the option to leave and rejoin when your favorite thing is reacted to... Just saying...in the meantime, be nice.

CJGardner

Oh thank you! But no, I meant for Simone & George to tough-love commenters who get out of hand. I normally don’t post at all, but entitled cowards make me furious on occasion. 🙂

Reid Mclellan

"I wanted sopranos on a silver platter, instead I got stranger things, I compromised"

Opti_Frog

Ooh, i don't know if you so openly should condone the stealing of shoes. 😋

Todd Rush

LOL. I'm bummed that I missed that window of opportunity too. Bah!

lalaland

theres also just no reason to publicly announce ones departure either. its just obnoxious, like do those people walk out of stores shouting "IM LEAVING THESE JEANS DONT FIT ME!!!" as well?

DonkyDave

We all saw this coming a mile away, I wish comments were disabled on polls because it’s the same thing every time

Richard

It's always a shame that these type of messages even need to be made, if you don't like something, just skip it until there is something you may want to watch. Unfortunately so many take things so seriously.

Richard B

There's a poll on another channel just gauging interest on TV shows, with one person stereotyping who watches a show. I wanted to say something, but why engage with the nonsense, so I blocked them.

Zectorman

Really hard to offer an opinion on the internet these days without it being interpreted (wrongly or rightly) as being dismissive/bitter/or down right angry. I have my preferences but don't mean to diminish others enjoyment from other series. was really strange to recieve some of replies that seemed to interpret my own thoughts as being demeaning to their own. Was really sad.

Tay Schumaker

Don't disagree with anything you say except, as usual, the idea that you'll eventually get to every movie and television show. There is 0 chance you'll get to watch every movie and especially every tv show that gets suggested. Some of these TV shows would take months and months to watch, and all the while more tv shows are coming out. You do it in the most fair way possible so no complaints, and agree people need to respect each other.

Tay Schumaker

Yeah agree, comments on polls aren't necessary. It's people suggesting other things, complaining they aren't winning or subtely spoling things.

SJB

I'm 100% Sopranos over Stranger Things, but...I pay $X per month. If I don't get what I want, I can bugger off and watch other reactions. Ultimately, don't be dicks about your favorite series. It's just a show.

Justtired

Well said. Posts like this are one of the many reasons this is my favorite reaction channel

Where_Were_You_When_The_Westfold_Fell

I agree with the post. A lot of people are arguing that there is no respect for other people online. But I do think, having no empathy in general is much more of an issue. If people are unhappy with the selection/polls, they can unsubscribe/downgrade their subscription and come back later if they don't see anything that might interest them. I did it myself a couple of times. The videos are still uploaded for free to youtube. But being offended and aggressive is absolutely crazy to me...

Dorran

I remember running across a comment on another Patreon's post, basically saying "too bad we have to wait longer for X reaction because we have to watch this worthless movie." I called them out, because the reactor genuinely loved the movie. I make a BIG point to not talk negatively (or too positively) about movies and shows ahead of a reactor watching them because... I don't want to pre-set expectations. Even for a movie that I didn't enjoy, it doesn't mean that someone else won't enjoy it. And, if it is a reaction to something I can't stand... I won't watch it! Amazing how that works!

probablyKoi

There's definitely misbehaviour, as with everywhere online, but I've felt so welcome in this community since joining. To all you nice chatters keep expressing your love for movies and shows and screw the haters. We're all just space dust anyway, let's enjoy some movies together.

Stephen Morris

I’m sorry that posts like this need to be made. Stay strong and live long and prosper

Jethro Divine

You are wrong for wanting civility! But seriously, you're doing great and should be proud.

Cinebinge

Just want to also add that to the vast majority who are kind, civil and welcoming to others, we truly appreciate you. We love that you help mediate situations, and we want to thank all of you when you welcome new members by giving them suggestions and point them in the right direction, especially because we either dont answer in time or miss them entirely. Thank you for keeping the community enjoyable for others.

Jordan Hume

Absolutely. Like, why get upset when people don't agree with you? There's no reason to get aggravated at somebody that doesn't hold the same opinion as you. If you do find yourself doing that, you should ask yourself why. You'll probably find the answer has something to do with ego: "If somebody doesn't agree with me, then they are essentially saying I'm wrong and they're right. They're saying they're better than me, but that's not the case! I'm better than them!" Obviously, you don't consciously think that and it isn't always that simple. But generally speaking, like most things with human interaction, it boils down to ego at some level. I myself came to this realization a while back and it has helped me in the way I treat people in my day to day discussions. The point being, disagreeing with people does not have to be a negative interaction. Unless the disagreement is on something that actually impacts you or somebody you love (like whether or not to turn off grandpa's life support), there's literally zero reason to have any strong emotions at all, especially aggravation or anger.

Andrew R

It's a balancing act. On one hand, it's very easy to not engage with movies/shows that aren't appealing. On the other hand, because it is a subscription service people feel like they should have some influence into what is being watched. Especially if their favorites are being skipped over numerous times. Simone and George have to deal with this because this is the profession they chose. But subscribers also have to deal with it because they chose to subscribe.

Angzarr

I kind of assume that choices on polls are often inspired by comments on previous polls.

mpd

My rule of thumb is, if you see a comment with 17 replies, whatever you do don't expand!

Jimmie V

While there's definitely a lack of empathy, there's also the irrational idea going around that there's good and bad art, or even stranger, that when a work is very good, it is ELEVATED to the status of art (this is where people strangely use the word 'art' as a compliment for a work). There's no greatest or worst film, there's just your favorite and least favorite films. There are no underrated or overrated films, there are just films you wish were more/less popular.

Scoobay

Ah, the quarterly reminder for us not to be a bunch of d*ckholes. Thanks Simone and George. We will likely let you down but we’ll try not to.

Jack Mingle

I was raised with low expectations when it came to things like this lol I never get uppity when things I wish won didn't.

Ian Tellam

Some people don’t know how lucky they are. I didn’t even get the opportunity to gripe and rage as the show I keep suggesting never appears on any polls 😭 (The Americans)

Jack Mingle

It is less a lack of empathy, and much more simple than that, People in the modern age (in the majority it feels) have a total lack of understanding of the other person and no considerations for them. Everything is so "me" focused that everything that doesn't go their way ends up being an attack or slight against them personally.

Angzarr

Fair... if every reaction they did was interesting to me, I'd never keep up!

Kwazimoto69

Personally , I'm here for G&S. I will vote for everything posted. Will my preference win? Sometimes yes, sometimes no. Will I still watch it? Yes, I will (eventually). As a living breathings sentient being, I have accepted this outcome. I'm sorry but I don't understand the difficulty? Keep doing what you are doing. G&S are amongst the best of the reaction channels IMHO. Honest feedback and commentary is hard to find. You both do it in spades, don't forget that.

Carlos H

To the victor belong the spoils

Arthur 'Two Sheds' Jackson

Thats why I rarely read the comments on the polls. Once the comment section gets too large, you know there's people complaining about something. Reminds me of a quote from "Jay & Silent Bob Strike Back" 😂

Emily G

Wonderfully put, and great point! I completely agree. A lot of times, I’m hesitant to comment what show/movie I’m pulling for due to fear of backlash and negative comments. It’s always good to remind people to be civil and treat others with kindness. Thank you for all your hard work S&G!

Simone's Coconut Squire

Hate that movie? Don’t be mad it wins, maybe George and Simone will hate it too and you’ll have two new people to hate on that movie with!

Carlos H

The Americans is painfully underated in the reaction world. Its always an easy recommendation for me. Especially since the show stuck the landing in the final season.

Dazzler & Em

Just to back up the previous post. We can all agree that we are here for S & G. I really struggle to understand the need for anger over a choice of program or film. At the end of the day we can't always have our way and need to be open to others opinions.

Brian Harris

There’s also something to the idea that people just expect to get whatever they want immediately these days. It’s the problem with the whole “on demand” culture that streaming has created. I don’t mind waiting for George and Simone to do The Sopranos, just as I didn’t mind waiting for The Sopranos week after week when it was airing. People have lost their ability to just chill.

Ian Hunt

Well said. No reason to waste your time with unnecessary hatred and spite 👍🏻

Mikey Sea

I feel like I been stabbed in da haard.

Jasbro

Its sad to see these kinds of posts so often, i think this is the 3rd time this year?, but as the old saying goes "you cant please everyone" and unfortunately some of those who are not pleased take it personally.

Duron Ball

Very well said! On that note 🎵 I cannot wait until you guys get around to the "What we do in the Shadows" TV series! 😊😊😊

Ian Tellam

It’s the ‘problem’ with polls really, it’s always going to be the most watched shows that’ll win rather than the ‘best’. I can hardly blame people for wanting to see a reaction to something they’ve already watched. I recommend it in places like this more to encourage people to check it out than to realistically expect a reaction. It’s one of the few shows out there I’d put on par with Breaking Bad, The Wire, and The Sopranos. It just never really got quitethe same exposure so even if it was on a poll next to huge HBO, Disney and Netflix shows it wouldn’t win. The only way it’ll get reacted to anywhere is if someone looks at it and thinks ‘hey, that looks good and won a bunch of awards, maybe I’ll check it out’. Might as well add Battlestar Galactica to that list while I’m here. Despite some of its issues in the final season, it’s still the best sci-fi show ever and I’ll die on that hill, damnit.

Andrew

Film and television is art and the experience of art is subjective. Just because I like something you don’t doesn’t make me dumb just like you not liking something I do doesn’t make you a horrible person. I do wish more people would understand that. Each of us are allowed to have our opinions on anything and there’s no reason to abuse anyone for them. People can like what they like.

StonyD

All I know it, this is the best, cheapest streaming service I've ever subscribed to. The amount of entertainment you offer compared to your prices makes you far superior to Netflix, HBOMax, etc.

Clipped

You are the ones who are the •••• •••••••! :)

Divinerights

So many people on the internet need this message. Just relax.

Clipped

Exactly. I've wound up enjoying their reactions to movies for which I held zero interest, but was pleasantly surprised. Or even films I have and will always actively despise, yet I still manage to have a good time solely because of S&G's perspective and enthusiasm.

Daniel Smith

I’m hoping this doesn’t creep into the unacceptable territory. I don’t quite get Cloud Atlas but when it comes up in a poll I will vote for it. It doesn’t work for me but it works for a lot of other people and I would love to hear what you think about the film. It has some great moments and was definitely made with passion. Just because that film didn’t work for me doesn’t mean I want to prevent you from watching it. I want you to watch to trigger discussion as I think that’s what the channel is about.

James Runn

Exactly. There’s enough hate in the real world 🙏🏽 let’s just respect each other‘s preferences and not try to talk each other down if we disagree. There’s always a constructive debate about movies. That’s why I love them so much 😁🙏🏽❤️

Tyler Foster

I just commented on another reactor's page hoping for a movie that relates to the one they just watched is coming soon, and the first reply was someone saying, "I hope not." Geez! You don't have to want that movie, but I don't need to know about it.

Ian Tellam

I think one issue here is also that the TV shows in the poll are of wildly different genres. Maybe cycling between ‘Crime and Drama’, ‘Sci-fi and Fantasy’ and ‘Comedy and Animation’ doing one season of each would lead to less frustration as people wouldn’t have to wait multiple seasons and weeks or months of reactions before getting to bite again - while also still sticking somewhat to the manner in which these shows were released.

Jimmy Olofsson

I think I made a comment like "I'm surprised Stranger Things is winning" not because I look down on anyone who voted for it, just general surprise as in my experience the hype around the show has vanished (though it clearly exists out there). I do agree with the sentiment that getting into arguments over who voted for what is silly though and there's always next time

Zipper

Jim The Vampire

adrian pedadrian

It's unbelievable that you even have to say this. Some people, man.

Stephanie Bedworth

I remember your comment and I definitely didn’t see any issue with it at all and you might be right about it. The amount of time between seasons for a lot of shows now tends to really dampen the excitement people have when they come back. It’s kind of like people being mad at Bethesda Game Studios for taking almost 15 years to make another Elder Scrolls game.

cincassette

I’m kinda glad I’m not too invested in the TV side of things. I originally joined the channel purely as a film fan, but I’ve since had a great time discovering and watching a lot of ongoing shows for the first time alongside CineBinge. Breaking Bad, Better Call Saul, Ted Lasso, House of the Dragon, The Penguin, and now Andor are all series I probably wouldn’t have watched otherwise, yet in many cases I even ended up binging ahead in my own time once I caught up with the reactions. The same goes for plenty of movies too. I often don’t know or care for everything on the schedule, but more often than not I end up watching and enjoying them, discovering a lot of new stuff in the process.

dasgrove

Been here a little while and am happy to say that, for the most part, this is a pleasant and supportive community. Thanks to ya’ll for moderating to maintain that.

Phil Robinson

I really hope that people who act this way are a minority, but regardless, it's not the first time you've had to call this out and it won't be the last. I'll say this, if it were my channel I'd issue a warning and if they don't start acting like a decent human then the ban hammer will be firmly applied - with a note specifically telling them they're being an arsehole and to rethink their online interactions. I think those people need to be taught a lesson - online or IRL - don't be a dick. If they are actually a dick IRL - hard ban.

Feignorance

It’s getting to the point where you should just ban the bad actors. Having to put up a post every 3 months to remind everyone to be kind is working less and less. Too much carrot not enough stick.

lalaland

how do you know they havent been? theres been a few names ive stopped seeing. and like 2 days ago they literally did a public "we're severing our business with you, good bye" in a post. i think its more like as time goes, new people come in and they dont know the rules.

ln_wanderbooks

People also need to learn how to deal with frustration. We live in a world where they become more entitled to have things their way, or right now, without ever thinking of others. I guess "empathy recession" was well chosen (never heard this term before this post). One channel can't satisfy everone and it's okay, there are others to watch in the meantime and the reactors need to be involved in the choices so they enjoy what they watch, and don't end fed up with the whole thing.

Jpsynergy

Thanks for the post, it's a good reminder. There's absolutely a way to share your opinion/dislike of something/support what you want without bringing others down. I've been pleasantly surprised at the stuff that's appeared on the channel and with popular shows, there's a good chance it'll be seen eventually. So I'm not too bummed if anything loses or wins. Keep on keeping on and live long and prosper everyone.

ln_wanderbooks

Very well put. Unfortunately on social media different opinions are taken as personal attacks by some, I still don't understand why. They're a minority but they're the loudest and make it bad for everybody else. I hope more respect keeps going on here, it's a great channel and it saddens me every time I see one of these reminders.

sagesaria

Another thing to remember is that it's not necessarily about how good the movie is (though that's also a factor a lot of the time), but about Simone and George's reactions. A worse movie might be more fun to watch, or one movie on the list might have a specific scene that might be exciting to see a blind reaction to.

Jpsynergy

I made a post saying something similar in regards to my own experience losing interest in the show. I was surprised as well. I don't think it's bad to say that most of the hype around that show was killed by how long each season takes to come out. But that's the modern formula, we get less episodes per season and they take forever to make.

Patrick

Day of the jackal (2024) please

Actuarial Lurker

The Americans is a great show, clever, original, well-written and great acting...

Shibby

I'm sorry you guys are still having to deal with this and remind us to just be nice. I really enjoy that there are so many people here with different tastes and opinions. I have watched a much wider range of things than I normally would, and been pleasantly surprised how much of it I have really enjoyed.

Actuarial Lurker

You do a great job given you don't have a hired staff. The only reactors I have seen that have none of this BS at all are two: one with paid mods and the other where the highest Patron Tier are granted moderator access and you have to be granted permission to join that Tier- the "super patrons" get to delete spoiler posts, put people in time out or refer violators to the channel owners who ban people (in private)....

Actuarial Lurker

I'm in my late 50s. I was on the Internet in college in the mid-to-late 1980s when it was DIFFICULT to access and there weren't thousands of "message boards" to pollute with hate...in 1994/1995 there was a major "browser war" with the release of NetScape and Internet Explorer and all of a sudden EVERYONE was on the internet, anonymous, and spewing hate....it was accelerated by social media with self-reinforcing content filters driven by ads....I agree with you that it is very hard to recover from that

Feignorance

Yeah, I’m essentially suggesting that they put up a sign on their about page with the sentiment of “No Assholes Allowed or Immediate Ban” as a warning to everyone that this kind of engagement is not welcome here.

adv97

I think it’s rubbish they have to constantly deal with those type of comments ,but on the other hand I can see why people get worked up considering it takes them about at least 6 months to a year to finish a tv show.realistically they’re probably never going to see a majority of them.

Benjamin Trewin

What a boomer... Of a show! Would love to see it here! 😁

Odysseus

Hey guys, Empathy recession is a new term for me, and while I absolutely agree this is a problem in society, and also relatable here, the true depth of the problem can be as layered and complex as modern generations. In our modern digital world, we find ourselves in a sea of 8 billion people struggling to try and find some recognition, relevance and connection with other humans, whilst being segregated and insulated by the same tools that connect us, often retarding emotional intelligence and interpersonal skills. With that very human need to feel relevant and included, it can sometimes manifest itself in bad behaviour in order to be heard or recognised, which in my mind, only increases the need for acceptance and inclusivity, bad actors included. After all, are we not here, in some way, to be included in Simone and George's life? or include them in ours? As a quasi-family, to live vicariously through their up's and down's as they discover the media we loved. Or to discover new media along with them, and the community, enjoying that shared experience, making it special in a tide of indifference and apathy? And, as a family we do not get to have our favorite meal every night, everyone gets a turn, and maybe, we can get enjoyment from their enjoyment. But it's ok, I feel your pain, I don't like tuna bake either. “I and the public know What all schoolchildren learn, Those to whom evil is done Do evil in return.” W.H Auden. Understanding is the treatment, compassion is the cure, empathy numbs the pain. Anyway, sorry, just the ramblings of an old man trying to find his way home

Scribbles_the_mouse

I don't comment much but I am a fan of you two and I am a fan of everyone else here

Reid Mclellan

How can you tell the exact votes? It doesn't show me, or did you just do the math?

BubblyRainbows

But.... My opinion is right, so anyone who disagrees is wrong! I have to tell them, don't I? ✌️🤓

Adam

It’s sad that you even have to write this

CT

If anyone feels urge to post in the way S&G outline above, here's what you do: Unsubscribe. You need to take a break, step away, get some distance. You can always come back later.

Nuclear Reactions

Well said. I'm very much in the "can't we all just get along?" crowd. Like I really want you guys to react to the Sopranos, but if Stranger Things wins the poll, I genuinely hope everyone who wants to see those reactions enjoys them. :) I think it's important to empathize with one another and to be happy for others.

Lionbarber

See the excellent ProZD video "Opinions on the internet" XD

Bill B.

Good rule of thumb: don’t say anything to a person online that you would not say directly, face to face, to that person.

John Miller

I will never understand some peoples need to ruin the enjoyment of other people.

Donna Castellano

It shows the vote numbers for me. ST is at 800 something and The Sopranos is high 700s. At least when I looked at it last.

fromage

There are repeated offenders who don’t learn. These little PSA reminders to be civil are fine and good but without any punitive measures some people will continue to do it. Then the question is, how much do you value the monetary gain from continuing to take money from these impossibly irate folks vs providing a civil and friendly community?

dys

I still don't understand why the comments here are so toxic when Simone and George are just nice people.

Jimmy Olofsson

Yeah the Elder Scrolls is a good example. GTA 6 or Half-Life 3 (haha) are other ones that comes to mind. I get why some creative people prefer to take it slow because if something comes out and it's not on 'the level' then people go hard with criticism and sometimes it even has a negative impact on the earlier stuff that people used to love

Will

I'm someone whose always happy to share his opinion on why I like or don't like something, but getting into personal arguments over taste is all so pointless. What are you hoping is gonna happen, you'll somehow persuade someone that the thing they like they actually don't like?

MacGuffinStuff

I just want to pass a metaphorically dank joint of "It's not that hard to be cool" to everyone, offer it, the kine way that Cinebinge offers their reactions, you don't have to partake, it's cool. It's a party for people who like movies and such. Opinions are great, be glad you have one, don't take it for granted. But some people feel the need to bring their drama, and take for granted that they're right and project way too much on something that's really just not that important. Can't escape them though, not anywhere it seems.

Rupert Purcat

I have seen polls recently not being what I would like to watch with S&G, but they are still good movies I have enjoyed in the past at a particular time. Or they are horror and no thanks. But it still my preference only. I would definitely like to share more Australian movies and shows with my Canadian cousins and everyone else though.

Tall Paul

I'm worried George is considering releasing the G-23 Paxilon Hydrochlorate

Dioskur

I rarely read much of the discussion here. But as you made it a topic right now I had a look. And now I want to add my 2cent as well: 1) I agree with the opinion that was voiced several times that your community is becoming one-dimensional. By making the biggest decissions (100h+ content on a show...) dependent on polls, you WILL lose some of the people that didn't like what was picked and you will attract more people that like it. Next time you make a poll again the same style of show will likely win again and reinforce the effect and so on. So I understand the frustration. I myself don't like BB or BCS or the Wire , or anything starwars related, nor do I like squid game, nor Black mirror, nor arcane, not true detective, not the last of us, not ted lasso, not house of the dragon.... All that content has zero value for me. There is some cheap, modern way of story telling to it that I dislike a lot but many people here like it and so it gets voted over and over again. I just stay silent most of the time, but its a massive loss of value for me. 2) People overreact and post unfriendly stuff, yes. It shouldn't happen but it does. You are fighting this and you should. But: I have seen you interfere where I didn't see the problem. Yes it was a little harsh, but on a scale from 1 to 10 where 1 is the mildest form of critique and 10 is a call for fandom genocide it was like a 3. Annoyed and rough choice of words. I don't want to ask you to allow "boys to be boys" and accept bad behaviour, but I would like to remind you that you create a strange situation if people have to walk on eggshells to be able to voice any critique. SImone hitting the "SPACE!" for the first time? What were her next words? "F*** you all!" or something? Shall I feel offended now? No obviously not because I know its just a heat of the moment thing to say and didn't carry any hate. Context matters and you here are managing an international community and everyone has his one frame of reference. Maybe remember that before you overcorrect people. Take your own advice and relax, dont TRY to find things to be offended by. 3) You are doing a great job. You are working very hard on this channel and you are way ahead of the competition. I know many and I read several forums. I feel save saying your investment and skill pays off. So don't stress yourself even more. You are on the right course and you don't need to be worried about some punks. Have a nice weekend!

Brandon

Quite possibly the first person I've ever seen describe The Wire as "cheaply told", but you do you. I agree with everything you say in your second and third points, though. The problem is that the written word always seems to carry more weight than speaking and saying things off the cuff. Writing takes time, effort and thought. So when someone comes across like an ass, people will think they were being an ass on purpose, even if that wasn't the intention of the person writing the comment.

CT

I REALLY want to know what you would recommend for a TV series. Care to share?

Ira K.

There's always a majority win. The majority of people in this community enjoy shows you might not enjoy. If you think of BB, BCS or The Wire as cheap storytelling, what kind of shows do you like? See, I don't enjoy Star Trek or Shōgun, it's just a preference, but I see that it's a popular choice people are excited about (for a reason) and all I need to do is just skip a month or two.

lalaland

i disagree with teh second one. you might think its a 3 out of 10 but you dont get 1 email for every comment like they do. you likely didnt see every comment made by those people, not just in that instance but over time. every time a poll shows up, or every few months with tv polls. i know patreon allows creators to add "private notes" to users. so they likely have a record of "this person is a trouble maker and did whatever in the past". so while you see that moment, they likely can tell if someones starting shit up again like they have in the past. secondly, comparing SImones thing is just stupid. that is clearly a joke. we can see her face, on camera, laughing, and we have the context of all the previous attempts. context, which is what youre missing when you read 1 conversation and assume it must be okay when they get to have the context of however many previous engagements users may have. hell even as a passerby i start to recognize some names. that CD guy for example, all he ever does is exactly whats described in this post. making general comments about "guess its just kids here with this poll" and shit like that. its not directly aggressive, its not targeted at anyone particular, but its just shitty. like a turd in the middle of a garden. to make anyone who see it feel bad about their choices. Brendan Rafferty is another one, he got banned a while back but hes in another creator that im also subbed to and he does the same shit over there. its never openly hostile, just "lol wow i didnt know this many toddlers watch reactors".

Jenny MacRunnel

Dioskur, I appreciate your comment, there's definitely some truth in what you said, but please try to remember that this is not a debate. George and Simone have just stated the rules and what they expect from us on THEIR platform. My choices on the polls almost never win, but I'm not worried about that, because they do usually come in 2nd or 3rd, and I know George and Simone will get to that movie eventually. I can be patient, and watch something new with them in the meantime.

Kieran

You ever think what a coincidence it is that Lou Gehrig died of Lou Gehrig's disease?

Candy Found on a Barbershop Floor

I tend to not engage in the chat or comments because people on the internet (for the past couple of decades, at least) see differing opinions as attacks on their very existences. Nobody can agree to disagree anymore. If you like cake and I like pie, you're the enemy and must be destroyed.

DonkyDave

You literally hate everything then?

John Every

Sucks that you guys even have to say this, people just need to chill out. Its just movies!

doe555

Not trying to attack you, but if you dislike basicly 80-90% of the content why staying subscribed? Its a lot of members, polls are the only way find out what the majority is happy with. I am overall happy with the diversity of content (shows and films). Many channels turn into "only-shows" or "only-anime" channels after a while, that didnt happen here, wich i consider as rare and very good.

Happy Hanukkah

Some of the behavior makes me just tear out my hair! I am now suffering from a Hairline Recession. :-)

Crow

Ditto. Just here to enjoy G&S and the content

Jeff Smith

“Individually, we are one drop. Together, we are an ocean.” - Ryunosuke Satoro. I hope everyone subscribed has a wonderful day.

Crow

Fortunately, I think the air processors are still down for maintenance.

Logan Kerlee

Nobody's stealing my shoes! xD

Jeff K.

Challenge accepted

Adam

Just out of curiosity, what show's do you consider to be good?

Colin Reid

This is exactly why I didn’t vote in the recent poll. I personally didn’t like any of the options, I’ve nothing against anyone who did like them but they just weren’t for me so I decided not to vote so as not to influence the poll in anyway for the people who DID really like and want one or other of the shows to win.

Jimmy James Blueflame

I don't even know why this post is necessary, Simone and George seem to have cultivated such a nice 'community' here of like minded individuals. Sure, you're not going to like 100% of the movies they review, but we all became members for a reason... Because we are all- Simone, George and the rest of you scoundrels- On the same page... Mostly haha... As a paranoid GenXer,I NEVER join any internet 'community' but I did it for Cinebinge.. No ragerts.

Raven Dark

Dioskur, I don't like most of the shows you mention either. They just don't interest me. Asking out of genuine curiosity, what show would you enjoy watching on here? There is a lot of content on this channel I do enjoy, but it's mostly the movies. TBH, I don't watch a lot of TV these days, and when I do, it tends to be older shows.

Dioskur

Well if I should suggest one show my first idea would be "The Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance" because it has some uniqueness to it. I also think that long shows dont fit the idea of reaction channels very well. First season Spartacus maybe? Would have to think but I didnt sleep much and feel real tired. Yeah well short stuff that does something diffrent whatever that may be.