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Andor 207-209 (Patreon)

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2025-10-14 12:00:09
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newhastings

Ik i’m early but god what an arc, that “who are you?” Scene still rings fresh in my mind

Jeff K.

We've officially reached the part of season two where everything is going to be new to me, as well. Giddyup!

Śéáń

Have eagerly awaited this trio of episodes. @Cinebinge do you know if you'll have the bandwidth to rewatch Rogue One after this season ends? Because you may have the urge to rewatch Rogue One after this season ends.

Śéáń

I'm going to do the "You're so lucky, I wish I could watch them for the first time" thing Great run of episodes ahead for you

TheLeftPecOfTheLord

And here we are, some of the best writing Star Wars will ever see. So good in fact that episode 9 won the Emmy for Outstanding Writing in a Drama Series this year over Severance and The Pitt, great great stuff

Spacedone

In sympathy with Simone, I am also sick. I may take a long nap between episodes...

Spacedone

It's not explicitly stated by the show but Bix and Cassian taking out Gorst was the mission from Luthen. They had no other way of knowing he was even on the planet. Lonni Jung will have passed on the intel about the Empire setting up a facility for Gorst to Luthen, who knows what happened to Bix. He visits Bix, ostensibly for what he says is a "weapon evaluation" job but in truth she's the weapon being evaluated. He changes his mind upon seeing the state she's in and at that point she's probably in danger of being considered a liability. Later, Andor angrily confronts Luthen about seeing Bix and makes it clear that his use to Luthen depends on helping Bix. Not long after they are sent the signal for a new mission, which just happens to be something that might help Bix overcoming her trauma.

Jeff K.

Yeah, George and Simone, if you remember, Rogue One ends with Leia receiving the Death Star plans and leads directly into Star Wars (I refuse to call it A New Hope, because when I was a kid, it was just called Star Wars... now get off my lawn!). So at this point, Luke is still two years out from even beginning his training with Obi-Wan. He's out there whining about power converters and bullseyeing womp rats with his buddy Biggs Darklighter. (I know, I know, at this point, Biggs has probably already left to become a rebel pilot.)

Cinebinge

yep i realized the mistake a few minutes later as we're watching.

AdmiralZhou

Oh yessss been waiting for this!

mojo shivers

As others have mentioned here, the Battle of Yavin was the big battle at the end of Episode IV A New Hope. This is 2 years before that so Luke is still assisting moisture farming on his uncle's farm on Tatooine. What I'm more curious about is what Jyn Erso is up to. I also love that the "Rebellions are built on hope" quote gets its start here by being passed from the hotel employee to Andor, who will then pass it to Jyn in Rogue One, and Jyn will use it in her amazing speech to get the rebels to Scarif to steal the Death Star plans.

Simon

You guys definitely have to rewatch Rogue One in a couple of weeks after finishing Andor. Jyn and Cassian making out on the beach? What? Lol. Also it really serves as the actual 'finale' of Andor.

Popsmcgraw

The gun was Syral blaster, which Cassian took from the third episode. Then Cassian gave the blaster to Melshi when they escaped the prison

TheLeftPecOfTheLord

The guy at the end of episode 9 that you didn’t recognize is Melshi, who escaped Narkina 5, the prison planet, with cassian and was the only one to make it off planet with him. He also has a small role in Rogue One

Drake

the first few episodes were on Yavin too, that was the jungleworld where andor stranded with the idiot rebells xD it was shown in the end as he flew away and we saw the ruins of yavin the big OHHH moment (that you sadly didnt realize xD)

Drake

i feel so bad for melshi ... he is in rogue one, and you did not recognize him last season in the prison and now you again not recognized him neither from there or rogue one xD

Nathan Burgess

A Rogue One rewatch would be awesome to see how it hits now.

John Miller

No. At this point, nobody in the rebellion knows about the Death Star. They don't find out about it until Rogue One. And that's not for another year. I think you guys are getting very confused over the timeline. This is still BBY 2. That's two years before Rogue One, and Star Wars a New Hope.

WayneC

There aren't any post credit scenes in the finale, but the music playing over the credits transitions to something very familiar towards the end.

dudewheresmycar

I'd be down for a Rogue One rewatch with the full context of the show and where it ends up.

Drake

BBY is the end of episode 4, the destruction of the FIRST death start guys. luke is chilling on his home planet with his aunt and uncle guys and has never heared of the force ... star wars episode 4 is over the span of like 4 days ... so luke basiclty enters the figth 4 days BBY this is 2 years before that luke is playing shooting games with his friends and dreams on going to the imperial pilot academy xD luke did train with yoda in episode V which is 3 ABY, so its still 5 years away xD (i feel you think BBY ends with star wars 6 end the fall of the empire but thats not the case)

Drake

i think they confuse bby with the deathstar in episode 6

Drake

how can they know about the death start when they find out during rogue one ? PLZ watch rogue one again on the channel after season 2 ends, its such a different watch then

Hamesque

Can't believe Antifa killed all those people on Ghorman.

Spacedone

The guy you didn't recognise was Melshi, who escaped from the prison with Andor. He had hair in S1 but he's shaven-headed in Rogue One so they made him look like he does in the movie. The gun is the one that Andor took from Syril in S1E3. It has a Morlana security force emblem on it. Vel saw Andor with it on Aldhani, which is why she notices it. He gave it to Melshi after they escaped and they decided to split up once he'd collected his hidden stuff from that beachfront property. Vel asking "Who belongs to this?" is to show that Melshi found the Rebellion as he promised Andor he would.

Vez

Kalkite is the mineral the Empire needs on Ghorman. Deep substrate foliated kalkite. It's needed to coat the reactor lenses for the Emperor's "energy project" which Krennic describes as "stable, unlimited power" ; ) Fuel for the Death Star, whatever that is, are Kyber crystals of which there is a huge stash on Jedah.

Jose Robles

Answering George question and a little spoiler from other SW shows... Yes Ghorman massacre is reference in other shows mainly Rebelds And about Palpatine, on Rebelds also show that even that on the Senate shows him desfigured, when addressing the public he is shown very well health and shape and in white robes.

Spacedone

Also worth noting how central Lonni Jung is to Luthen. The only reason Luthen knows the ISB have someone on Bael's team is because that person is one of the people working for Lonni. If he hadn't been in place to know and to let Luthen know, Mon would have been captured and the Rebellion / Yavin exposed and destroyed before they were ready.

dansoddity

Just sat down with food to watch something and this couldn't have been more timely!!

Zosia B

What is more, this is at least the second TV shows where a character played by Faye Marsay (Vel) is looking for a character played by Duncan Pow (Melshi) - the first one was Black Mirror (season 3, ep. 6 - 'Hated in the Nation').

Jeff K.

Well that Mon Mothma speech hits way too fucking close to home...

Krylo

Luke is still Bullseyeing womp rats in his t-16 around this time...

Florian

Fun "fact" Dedra Meero looks freaking close to Alice Weidel, who is one of the chairpersons of germanys far right party the AfD.

Hamesque

Can't believe Simone forgot that part in the cooking competition episode when Andor said "I, Andor, season too!"

Cartoons ReAct

In A New Hope is understood that Leia's entire family died when Vader blew up Alderaan...so her dad went away

Hamesque

Her dad didn't go away till Return of the Jedi

Cartoons ReAct

even though Vader is her biological father, he is not considered her dad but Bail Organa

Hamesque

Yeah, but that ruins my pedantic joke.

Gee

Who can forget him saying "He may have been your father, but he wasn't your daddy"

Liminal Stressed

I really hope you guys do a rewatch / reaction of Rogue One after the show ! It's a completely different watch with all the context, and most of your questions regarding the timeline and "who knows what" will be answered 🙂 I would even suggest a rewatch of the OT if it's been that long, you will care about the galactic backdrop in addition to the Skywalker plot. I hope you guys will come back to the franchise sooner than later, I know it has flaws but it remains my favorite sci-fi universe of all time, and it has many different corners with different tones. Perhaps you could get into the animated stuff ? "The Clone Wars" is one of my faves, and you guys don't have too many animated shows so it would be cool 😁

Leigh P

The Melshi disrespect.

Jacob Seeloff

the Gorst mission wasnt a rogue operation by Bix and Cassian, it was Luthen's "olive branch" so to speak. Cassian tells Luthen "you help me figure this out" and then the next scene is Lonni finding out about Gorst being placed in Coruscant, and then a few scenes later Luthen has a mission for them.

Hamesque

That sounds like something Han would say.

dansoddity

To clear up some questions about the force, well it's exactly what Obi Wan said in A New Hope, "It's an energy field created by all living things. It surrounds us and penetrates us; it binds the galaxy together." Everyone to an extent is force sensitive, but not everyone can actively use it. In Episode 7, Bix said that she had dreams that reminded her of things that the force healer was telling them, and that was most likely the force - which manifested for her as an uncontrollable premonition of sorts. There's more to it, but that's just the tldr.

Chris

As people have said, nobody knows about the Death Star at this point. Luthen knows for a fact (from Lonni, as we saw last arc) that the whole Ghorman thing was a set up--and given how much went into it, presumably a really important one--but he doesn't know for what purpose. They don't say it explicitly, but I think, in addition to not having the best relationships there, trying to run that mystery down is why he stays rather than going to Yavin.

Crawnch!

The guy you didn’t recognize that belonged to that weapon was Melshi, the prisoner who escaped with Cassian from Narkina 5. He’s in Rogue One.

Angus Kirk

As others have said, a rewatch of Rogue One soon after finishing Andor would be really good and I would love it.

RogueRN

The guy in the “who belongs to this?” scene with Vel is Melshi, the guy Cassian escaped Narkina with. Cassian handed him that blaster as they split up on Niamos. I think (but I could be wrong) it’s a Corpo blaster from Ferrix :) Also, prior to the last arc I would recommend at least watching the first scene w/ Cassian in Rogue One. :)

Adam Morgan

Interestingly , the Ghorman Massacre is from spin-off material rather than any of the films or TV series. It was created for the old roleplaying game by West End Games and was first mentioned in the Rebel Alliance Sourcebook in 1990. After than, it was occasionally referenced in books, computer games, and so forth. I think the first time it made it to screen was in the Rebels animated series (in an episode starring Genevieve O'Reilly as Mon Mothma).

Popsmcgraw

Its Syrel's blaster, he took it from him when he tied him up

Popsmcgraw

Its crazy to think but a blaster has a better character arc than Finn

Jeff K.

And then after Leia calls Han daddy, he DEFINITELY shoots first. ...I'm so sorry.

Nate Gavin

Solid effort Simone. Have a good rest - get well soon

gfixler

This is such a hard show to watch, currently, from America. It's all playing out for real here. The parallels are legion.

Joe Stacey

This morning, while at work, I remembered it was Tuesday and that this video would be waiting for me when I get home, and that genuinely made me happier. It gave me something to look forward to. It didn't disappoint. And please do a Rogue One rewatch reaction straight after Andor. PleaseThankYou.

William

"I'd be amazed if she [Mon Mothma] continues with the rebellion." Oh, George. Just wait until you hear about this little film called RETURN OF THE JEDI. ;)

Seefah

I really hope you re-react to Rogue One after this finishes. That movie is the real final episode.

Ari Ramirez

Ghorman had never before been alluded to in Star Wars canon. It's effectively a retcon.

William

*coughs* STAR WARS REBELS *coughs*

Scott CineRam

The massacre on Ghorman, premeditated and staged by the Imperials, is something that I'm afraid we might see in a city such as Portland or Chicago. The rhetoric around those cities and the peaceful protests being held within them is shockingly similar to the way Ghorman is spoken about in this series. Some of the real-life protestors are attempting to invalidate these false claims by making their demonstrations deliberately goofy, wearing silly costumes and performing music to make the claims of aggression obviously ludicrous. I hope that strategy works. Here in the USA there will be "No Kings" protests across the country this Saturday. I will be bracing myself for any reports of violence.

Jacob

I always enjoy comments like these. Weird how people feel the need to pause what their watching to immediately come correct a reactor, when if you watch the full video George comes to this realization on his own.

Urbanform

You guys should rewatch Rogue One for the channel after completing the series.

Urbanform

Cyril possibly thought that Cassian was one of the outside agitators they have been talking about since he was aware Cassian wasnt from Ghorman and he saw him in the plaza shooting.

Urbanform

Besides the Ghorman propaganda resembles whats happening in Gaza, the Ghorman plaza massacare reminds me of the Jalianwala Bagh Massacre in India under British rule, where a British General called General Dyer blocked the only park exit while peaceful Indian proteters were gathered inside including women and children and he ordered his men to open fire at them until they were out of bullets. 1000s's died.

Urbanform

Thanks Simone for powering through. Get well soon.

mojo shivers

As others have said, Melshi is the guy who belongs to the blaster and he’s who escapes with Cassian from the prison. He’s also part of Cassian’s crew that goes with him and helps get the plans uploaded to the ship before dying on Scarif. And, yes, the blaster is the one Cassian takes with him from the Corporate Security guys on Ferrix. He then gives it to Melshi before they split up after the escape. And the reason Vel notices it is because she saw it was Cassian’s blaster from Aldhani and knew that Melshi must be connect to Andor somehow.

GAB

Also known as the Amritsar massacre, depicted in Richard Attenborough's multiple Oscar winning movie Gandhi. A friend of mine nearly got into a fight in the cinema when he told some people behind us to shut up as they were laughing and making racist remarks during the depiction of the massacre.

MattN

I appreciate both George & Simone's belief in the good in people, specifically when they speculate whether or not Syril and\or Dedra would now switch to the rebellion based on what they say or knew. I love that sentiment but one of the things I think Andor has done so brilliantly was illustrated someone's path to radicalization and throwing away a lifetime worth of social conditioning and state propaganda isn't as easy as seeing your aunt & uncle killed at your moisture farm. It's a long process that includes back sliding, moments that peal through previous layers of propaganda, and people to help restructure your world view. In addition, both George & Simone bring up great points about how the actions of the rebellion, specifically Luthen, aren't necessarily good or morale. We rationalize it(in part because we get to cheat and know the future but also) by convincing ourselves it's for the greater good... to get us where we think things will be better. But if we can rationalize bad actions for the rebellion then both Syril & Dedra can rationalize what happened in Ghorman as a "unfortunate" act for the greater good. If the Ghorman front is eliminated & they secure the resources needed for sustainable & unlimited energy for every world then isn't it worth it? Let me highlight I am not condoning nor am I making excuses for the massacre, I am just illustrating how bad actions can be justified depending on your perspective and distance from the action itself. Dedra's arc hasn't finished so I won't speak on her to avoid spoilers, but with regards to Syril I don't believe this would be his turning point. Based on his past, his upbringing, and his actions, he seems like someone who craves order, authority, perfection, and justice that aligns with the state. He was a cop, tailored his own clothes, worked for the bureau of standards, obsessively pursued Cassian because he violated the law, and was almost OSD in his personal life. I think what happened in Ghorman just offended he sense of *how* the goals should be achieved, not that they were doing it. In this case, it isn't the system that is offensive but how "bad actors" operated *within* the system. Admittedly, I can't tell for sure because he paid the ultimate price for his actions, but to me, based on his (brilliantly created) character, I don't think this would have even come close to flipping him.

GAB

Star Wars Rebels 3x18 "Secret Cargo" - to quote from the Star Wars Fandom wiki: "Chopper then plays a broadcast from Kastle announcing that Senator Mon Mothma has shocked the Imperial Senate with her "treasonous" remarks against Emperor Palpatine. The rebels watch Senator Mothma give a speech condemning the Emperor for ordering the brutal attacks on the people of Ghorman. She denounces the Ghorman Massacre as proof that the self-appointed Emperor is nothing more than a lying executioner who has imposed tyranny on the galaxy under the pretense of security. Ezra and Zeb marvel at what Mothma said, with the latter adding that she has guts and that he's surprised she's still alive." I believe it's canon, but I'm not a deep aficionado of SW lore.

Hamesque

This also ignores my erotic fanfic "The Erotic Web of Ghorman"

Rokkor X

Man them watching their own Rogue One youtube edit would answer a lot of their own questions haha. Love this.

Godrick

3 important things to note about the force healer and Bix. 1) She wasn't trained by the jedi so she wasn't hunted down, but it also means she doesn't know how to properly use her gift. 2) She was referring to "the will of the force" but she wasn't taught any of the lore and just referred to Andor's destiny as "a purpose". Andor is not force sensitive, but she basicallly sensed his plot armor. 3) Bix saying she could "feel it" and she'd "dreamed about" is a pretty not so subtle hint that Bix is actually force sensitive.

Justin Leone

I'm not sure that "plot armor" is the right term. If anything, she's sensing his very important ultimate sacrifice, which is only about a year out at this point. "Plot inescapable demise". And perhaps he's right to be reflexively scared of her, because this conversation is, indirectly, what keeps him on the path that dooms him and saves the galaxy.

Jon

I believe we're suppose to take it that going after Gorst and blowing up the center was the assignment. Lonnie was assigned to it, he told Luthen, Luthen sent them. "It's the Empire with the torches..." they're the ones blowing things up and blaming the rebels. She feels his spirit and his destiny. The Force healer is my favorite representation of the Force in Disney Wars. It's a guiding Force vs just an endless bag of tools...at least when it comes to the Jedi. They turned it into something realistic but kept the spirit of Star Wars.

Justin Leone

I joked on a recent discussion of Trump's remarks about Portland that they must have discovered a rich vein of foliated kalkite under the city. Because for all the comparisons I've seen made to Gaza (which has some minor similarities, but is ultimately a VERY different situation than what's depicted in Andor), the more striking similarities are the way that the Trump administration has been talking about American cities, constantly painting them as hotbeds of terrorism that have virtually no basis in reality. In a recent interview, Tony Gilroy half-jokingly assumed that Stephen Miller has probably watched the show and gotten ideas, before saying that every time fascists rise up, they use pretty much the same playbook. He went on to lament how idiocy has been winning in America lately.

Jon

Yes it's Corpo. He had it with him when they inspected his gear at Aldoni

Godrick

Lol yeah ik its just a joke, since bro has to survive until Rogue One and literally has plot armor

Shibby

They shaved his head and gave him a beard I didn't recognise him at first either.

Shibby

They watch an incredible amount of movies and shows there is no way they can remember so many details

Shibby

I hope you feel better soon Simone! also I agree a Rogue One re-watch would be excellent.

beecroft adams

The death star is not known of until rogue one. That's the first time cassian andor hears of a planet killer.

William

100% canon. 👍🏼

Maerandir Eldar

May have already been answered, I'm still watching, but -- No, the rebellion knows nothing of the Death Star at this point. The whole main character conflict in Rogue One is that Galen Erso told Jyn about it in that message but nobody on the Alliance Council believes her when they returned, as only she saw it. Cassian's first scene in the movie is receiving news of a "planet killer" from his contact, whom he kills.

Godrick

When Baile Organa says "We need to buy time.." he's not just referring to Leia.. he's 1 of 5 (technically 6, if you include Ashoka) people in the entire Galaxy who knows of Vader's real identity, and 1 of 3 people in the entire Galaxy who know about Luke and his eventual destiny

Chris

There are a few historical inspirations—also the Tlatelolco Massacre in Mexico in the 60s, where authorities begin killing student protesters with a false flag operation killing their own men. The reason this all feels so true to life now isn’t that they wrote it to parallel modern events… but because modern events have such a scary resemblance to historical authoritarianism. None of it’s new. It’s just back…

James W.

I had to break myself of that habit and just wait. Usually by the end I either forget what I wanted to go on about or realize it doesn't matter.

doe555

How does the Ghorman propaganda resembles whats going on in Gaza? Im not trying to open a political argument here, just want to understand what you mean.

James W.

On Syril: It is a testament to Kyle Soller's performance that so many people want Syril to come to his senses and join the good guys but his performance also precludes a real chance at redemption. Syril attacked Cassian for the exact reason George mentioned. -He knew the Ghorman operation he was a part of was a sham, so he didn't do it for Ghorman. He could have saved lives, even as the false flag was popping off but he chose to be a petty king instead. -He didn't do it for the Empire, especially after realizing how completely they used him. -He didn't do it to save Dedra, he didn't even notice Cassian was aiming at her. In the end he did it because he was a butt-hurt, vainglorious, man-child, who, after a lifetime of being bullied by his own horrible mother, just wanted to feel powerful and effective. In his mind Cass took that all away from him back on Ferrix. He didn't have the self awareness to see his own part in it. At that last moment I think "Who are you?" stunned him into momentary sensibility but it was too late. Rylanz was justified in that kill, Syril was instrumental in the destruction of Ghorman. If Syril had survived would he have flipped? Maybe, I think it would have taken Alderaan and the Emperor's dissolution of the Imperial Senate to really make him go against the beliefs he was indoctrinated into. This show doesn't give bad guys second chances though, it barely gives good guys second chances. Same for Kloris. Was he moved by Mon's speech? Maybe, and maybe he would have flipped but Mon didn't have time for that and neither did Cass, so 'Bad luck Kloris...' to paraphrase Partaghaz's sentiments on Ghorman. If he hadn't spent years informing on her and instead paid attention to Mon's constant struggle to keep the galaxy from slipping into the gaping maw of Palpatine, he would have flipped sooner, then he wouldn't be dead.

James W.

I was coming to say this but wasn't sure when the blaster came into it; if it was Ferrix, Aldhani, or whatever, because Cass' signature pistol is the Briar Pistol but can't remember if he had it from go or picked it up along the way. Did he have it stashed with his other pistol and his money on Niamos? Regardless, glad someone calls out Melshi. It crazy that a side character who we get zero background on from Rogue one, just that he is important enough thatr Cassian calls him by name, gets a nice little story arc. It makes his part in Rogue One way better.

Hamesque

Live your truth King

James W.

They do seem to be running the temu-version of manufacturing consent but it is working way too well to ignore. And yet, by and large Americans seem to be ignoring it.

mojo shivers

I’ll have to watch season one again, but I believe this is the blaster he takes from Syril, and not just any guard. Yup. Per the description when I googled it: “Andor gives the corporate blaster that he stole from Syril Karn on Ferrix to Melshi after they escape the Narkina 5 prison. The pistol, a AD-616K6KA, was a Pre-Mor Security weapon that Andor had taken from Syril. After escaping Narkina 5, Andor retrieved it from a stash on Niamos and gave it to Melshi before they parted ways”

Philipp Roensch

Upsetting how good this is, in overall direction and love for details. I get now, that Andor's fate is going to be even more impactful and tragic, but also bigger for this cause. Reminds me of Frodo: "The shire has been saved, but not for me." That is really a lesson for Andor in this whole show, he loses his love, family and friends, but has to submit to the fight and new purpose, because that is how he can help them the most. The force is to me, never mind the canon, strong with people and things that have a connection to the fate of this (SW) universe. Hope and purpose being the first most manifestations of force in people, even if they are not force users. Just my wish/prediction for the finale, I kinda want to see Galen Erso be turned right now, after Mon Mothma's speech and starting a contact with Saw.

John

I know this is unlikely, but I would love a Rogue One to Star Wars to Empire Strikes Back to Return of the Jedi rewatch. Andor adds so much value to the original Star Wars Trilogy in addition to Rogue One, as the context of the Empire and what the rebel's are struggling again. Think of Bespin in the context of Ghorman.

Muir Lyman

*there are 5 more episodes to watch* George: "But... this can't be how this show ends?!"

Robert Cooper

Gawd I fing love this show. You guys to get the Trial of the Chicago Seven on a list.

Marty McGee

She's in ROTJ but is she even named aloud in it? I can't remember. I mean I grew up with the original trilogy and collected the action figures so I knew her name. She also played a big role in the Legends stories. Even if she was named on screen, I wouldn't expect casual fans who've seen the movie once to remember her.

Marty McGee

208 was so dark and heavy, yet so beautifully done. The sense of dread that has been building about Ghorman all season finally pays off in the worst way for them. The fact that it parallels actual history, and it's not a stretch for current events makes it even more disturbing. I'm pretty sure the Ghorman Front realized at some point during the year time-jump that Syril was playing them. That's why Enza slapped him and Rylanz accosted him and eventually shot him. And that flip with Syril almost choking Dedra to death was terrifying. I'm not sure he would ever change sides completely. Maybe he's fed up with the Empire, but actually becoming a rebel I think would be a stretch for him. Dedra flip? No chance. No matter her personal feelings about Ghorman, which I believe were more about betraying Syril than Ghorman, she's too invested to become radicalized. She still can't stand the concept of rebellion. And Mon Mothma the character and Genevieve O'Reilly the actor: mwah! Chef's kiss! Absolutely brilliant!

Marty McGee

Y'all should watch some interviews with Denise Gough (Dedra) where she talks about her frown in the show. She's hysterical.

FranciscoGios

In Episode 9 at the end Vel picks up the Morlana Security service weapon in which she recognized it back from the Aldhani heist; Cassian took it from Syril Karn when he scaped with Luthen back in Ferrix. The gun was recognized by the Aldhani Hiest member Skeen and he asked Cassian to show it to him AND THAT’S where Vel remembers it from. After scaping the Narkina 5 prison Cassian and Melshi (WHO IS ALSO IN ROUGE ONE!!!) met in a disclose place where Cassian handed over the weapon to Melshi.

DCray

Not sure if it has been said but Dedra has had the 3 blue squares on her uniform since she was introduced. They signify her rank as Lieutenant.

Nate Gavin

The phrase "I have friends everywhere" is peppered throughout the season by various protagonists. Crap security hygiene for an underground resistance group but a great slogan for the group!

Z Simons

In regards to the mission from the end of the previous arc, it's implied that Luthen gave them that mission as a peace offering of sorts. They found out Gorst was going to be on planet and vulnerable from Lonni (the, "calibrate your enthusiasm," scene.) Having his methods expanded to an entire Imperial division would be bad news bears, so it's a win-win for Luthen since it also serves to help Bix get back on her feet.

Gary Poussard

Pretty sure George watched the OT with his Dad last year.

Shibby

But not until after the show to avoid spoilers lol

Shibby

That contains a mild spoiler FYI

Fraser

I honestly cannot believe that they didn't, especially after the first block of three episodes where they had so many questions that Rogue One answers.

Jobbe Smit

Cyril is absolutely a sad character and meant to be a What If kinda guy. He would certainly have fought for the rebellion had he been brought into the fold early. But instead he went to work for the Empire, buying the propaganda hook, line and sinker. Deep down he has a moral compass but he got so lost in the world. He's a broken man right before the end, trying to wake up. While not a good guy he's a sad character of missed opportunities.

Kevin

Syril's reasons for attacking Cassian are pretty simple. He views him as he always has, a fugitive who killed two officers. That has not changed for Syril. He also has never had a better shot at justice than in this moment. His arc is not meant to be wholly redemptive. He didn't chose rebellion. He's just grappling with his role that was unbeknownst to him in this whole thing. He played along just fine when it was not about mass murder but still bad stuff! Dedra is a similar arc. Her role in coming up through ISB was not centered on orchestrating planet destruction, she was about connecting the dots. This Ghorman plan was something she reluctantly took to maintain status and promotion. Its a nice depiction into how people are coaxed into doing more and more horrible things in an organization like this and lose their humanity. She soothes herself with the promise of promotion so she went one step further than Syril (but nobody is taking a step backward).

gfixler

Oops! I actually waited, because of a spoiler I knew was in it. I've had that open in a tab for like 2 months 😅 I haven't seen season 2, and I didn't recognize anything that might be a spoiler, so hopefully I didn't spoil anything for myself too.

Jesse

It should not be forgotten that Syril created Andor. He was the spark behind his desire to be part of the rebellion. Syril's supervisor told him in the first episode of this show exactly what happened, there was a bar fight, these two guys were in a place they weren't supposed to be and they picked the wrong target. He told him to drop it and he was right. Instead, Syril went looking for a fight because he's a gung ho pro-Empire sad little loser and he played a central role in escalating things to the point that they got to.

Senjak

Syril seemed like he was mostly an Imperial true believer, but he believed in the fantasy propaganda version of the Empire, (order, prosperity, etc.), so it was a dishonest and bloodless idea of Imperial authority. If he'd had more time to observe the reality vs the idealized Empire in his head, it would be interesting to see if that changed him, but I didn't feel like he was particularly close to being redeemed yet. He seemed like he still had too much pro-Empire bully in him. But I agree that he always seemed to have more humanity than Dedra.

J Lawrence

You guys may have missed when the hotel front desk guy said "Rebellions are built on hope" to Cassian, he was actually signaling to him that he was one of Luthen's and part of the core group - a phrase later "reprised" in Rogue One by Cassian and Jyn. Same with "I have friends everywhere" when Cassian says it to Mon's right hand guy

Tcrimson05T

".....they let me pick did I ever tell you that? Let me choose any Spartan I wanted. But you know me I did my research. The others were strong capable. But you had something that they lacked. Do you know what it is? Can you guess? ..... luck." -Cortana to Master Chief. Luck counts Cassian. lol

Angela D. Mitchell

Feel better, Simone! Thank you for powering through these reactions -- they were such amazing episodes, and so much fun. But wow, "Who are you?" was so powerful. Syril went through all of this show thinking he was the hero of his own story. In the key moments on Ferrix in season 1, however, he fell apart and was utterly undone (although he did rescue Dedra). He "froze" when it counted each time. And did so again here. And what I liked was that the show explored this -- we got to watch Syril struggle with his own failure, with his own self-worth. He was working for the bad guys, but he was so fascinating because he really thought he was the good guy all along. That's why the final moments on Ghor moved me -- he sees who he is at last. He's nothing, someone used as a tool. He's on the wrong side. And then he goes in and fights Cassian as the "cause" of all this -- as the guy who set him on this path and featured so hugely in so many days of his life! And as the final icing on the cake, this guy has no idea who he is. Syril's last moment is filled with shock and horror at the knowledge of how little he actually mattered. Catching Cassian has been the primary focus of so much of his his life and self-worth. "Who are you?" devastates him. Then boom. And kudos to Kyle Soller, man, who was just fantastic in the role. As far as Bix and Cassian, I admit that I'm just not that invested in them. I care about Bix, but their relationship has always felt more like it was about shared trauma to me (and guilt on Cassian's part). I think they love each other deeply but I've never found them romantic at all. I still think Jyn Erso instantly provides an electricity and innate understanding of Cassian in a romantic sense that Bix lacked for me. But I'm probably in the minority on that.

Usagi

In an interview, Genevieve mentions the high collars used in her outfits and in the ISB uniforms represent the Imperial chokehold on its people. That's why Mon is often seen unbuttoning and undoing her collars while in her car. And Syril's collar height is often mentioned. And as you mentioned, Dedra claws at her collar in that moment.

Darren Harrison

The rebellion didn't know about the Death Star in "Rogue One"...it was Jyn who told them about it after seeing the hologram message from her father

David Walker

I know this will have been said before in the comments but the blaster Vel picks up at the end of Ep 9 belonged to Cassian during the Aldani heist, he kept it and recovered it after he escapes the prison on Narkino 5. He gives it to Melchie when they split up and that's who puts his hand up and says it's his