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The Sopranos 203-204 (Patreon)

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Potsi

Gabagool tuesday lets go

newhastings

Not related to sopranos at all (god i cant wait for season 3) but last night I saw Nirvanna The Band The Show The Movie and it was one of the funniest comedies I’ve ever seen. It would be a dream to see you two react to it someday in the future, it’s Canadian as hell so you’d appreciate it. The director also made Blackberry which is also a great movie, would love to see on the docket.

Twiska Brand

Yeah, designer drug means a synthetic drug made in a lab specifically to get you high, Vs grown or stolen medical drugs. It's not a term used very much anymore as it implies sophistication and most "lab drugs" these days are cooked up in a trailer park garage.

Anonymous Andy

One of my favorite fun facts about Commendatori is that even though Big Pussy doesn’t go to Italy in the episode, mostly because Tony is still suspicious of him, production still brought his actor, Vincent Pastore, out there because they didn’t want him to miss a once in a lifetime trip to Naples

SANAMDEEP

i'm 18 and when i was younger discipline for me was a backhand, a wack with a slipper and getting locked in rooms for like 30 minutes

Ashton Lewis

I'm exactly the same with spilled milk Simone - the thought of it sitting there festering is so gross!

Jedi Lounger

In my family discipline was grounding or taking away things, like TV or something. Never any physical discipline of any kind by my parents. My grandfather did that for my dad and his brothers, so my dad never considered it. My brother and I never really misbehaved much though.

Anonymous Andy

When Paulie is talking with the prostitute about where she comes from, she basically says “over there”, and Paulie thinks she’s talking about a specific place lol

Shane Leslie

My parents have been married for 54 years and I'm very lucky to be able to say that

The Maestro

my mom wouldn't hit us as teenagers but as small kids we'd all get smacked across the face and she'd scream and threaten us a lot, I remember in a fight with my older brother (first middle child) she dragged and banged his guitar against the stairs or wall.

Cartoons ReAct

I usually didn't do anything to get punished, but usually was taking away my TV privileges or videogames(which were the same games for about 10 years so not getting new games couldn't be a punishment)

FWPJR.

It’s Sopranos Tuesday once again, I can’t wait to watch this reaction. You two have done a great job reacting to one of my all time favorite shows ( you two always do a great job reacting to everything ) so keep killing it.

JBK405

Ah, Richie Aprile. He's a fascinating character, and also the most "realistic" gangster: No matter their pretensions for being Men of Honor who follow a Code, they're really violent, impulsive people who can't even follow their own rules. When Tony and Richie talk about Chris (After Richie threatens him for hitting Adriana), Tony describes Chris as "Capable". This is a coded way of saying that Chris has already killed somebody. Chris still isn't a Made Man, but Tony is warning Richie not to screw around with him too much even though Richie is technically allowed to. Janice has a son with a Canadian man from Quebec (Eugene), who left her and took their son. Janice says that she petitioned the state department to get him back, since they're in Canada and she's got no custodial authority to get him back. There's no details yet, but based on just what we've seen so far I'm calling Eugene a gosh-dang hero for rescuing his son from Janice. Imagine if somebody had gotten Janice, Tony and Barbara away from Johnny and Livia! ---- Pussy introduces Skip as "a friend of ours" when they run into that guy he knows. That is code for saying that he is a Made Man. Everybody I know interprets Carmela's reaction at the end as her having the same heart-drop that Angie described, and that it's her realizing just how miserable she actually is. All of her convincing Angie not to go through with it was her attempts to sell HERSELF on staying with Tony, since she also feels that he is neglectful and uncaring just like Angie described. She can't bring herself to leave, and if Angie can do it then she doesn't have any excuses, so that's why she works so hard to keep Angie around. ---- My parents separated after I was out of college, and it was obvious for a long time before they officially announced it. They lived in the same house but literally didn't see or speak to each other. When they finally did Tell People, I knew it was coming because when I drove up to the house I saw them sitting together and it had been so long since I'd seen them in the same room. Since the marriage was "over" for so long before anything became official, it was a very easy break because it just put a label to what was aleady going on. Their relationship now is as good as it can be under the circumstances, very amicable and they can be around each other without fighting.

newhastings

fun fact: Melfi's psychiatrist is Peter Bogdanovich, director of classics like The Last Picture Show and Paper Moon

BigM

I wonder if they have heard about the sopranos shows ending already since it's kind of famous for how it ended. I wonder how they will react.

BigM

Designer drugs are drugs that are used by altering legal pharmaceuticals to try to make them have the same effects of illegal drugs while still being legal. They can be very dangerous and unpredictable.

Ste Rawlings

I feel like having been parented can make somebody just as capable of giving good parenting advice as having kids can.

Nathan Jasper

For me it was being grounded or getting spanked with a wood paddle. I was spanked so much I had to learn how to fake crying because it quit hurting after a while LOL Grounding was honestly okay with me. I wasn't able to watch TV sure but being limited to only reading or sleeping was perfectly fine with me. So I guess moral of the story, make the best of what you're given?

BigM

I'm from Sweden and physical punishment of children was made illegal in 1979, 10 years before I was born. I wasn't the type of teenager who was out doing stuff because I had 2 older brothers who were very well known around our small community so I didn't want any part of that. Our parents let us be very independent, BUT if we did something that effected someone else we were forced to own up to it and take responsibility. Like my brother and some friends destroyed a bus stop shelter when they had a party and she took all their names told their parents and basically reported them and they had to pay to get it fixed. We had to take the consequences of our actions. Also my father was a survivor of a massive stroke so neither of my parents were capable of punishing us since my mom was 5'3 and I was like 6 feet at 12 years old.

Venusian

I would not have wanted my parents to stay together and be miserable. That would've fucked me up more. Children need love, security, and stability, but these things can be provided even if parents split up, as long as they get along well and have goodwill toward one another. If they don't, then staying together will not help.

Ste Rawlings

Sometimes I feel like you guys must have either skipped being teenagers or been the most well-behaved teenagers of all time.

Life in the cave of Garanoga

Thank you, George, for sharing that about yourself. My mom called it the fear of Dad and it is necessary in varying degrees depending on the kid. I always say that I don't believe in hitting your kids..... some kids need the shit slapped out of them. Parents need to do what will work best for their kid. I never really needed to be punished in any way. I got good at being sneaky, but at the same time I did something pretty bad when I was 15 and somehow my dad found out. He didn't even say anything, he just said that I'd be working at a farm every weekend that summer lol. And I did not question it. A 15 year old boy who doesn't question something like that has the fear in him haha. I knew he wasn't playing games just by his tone. I think the problem only comes when it gets excessive or starts to become just beating them because you can. That's when it backfires and creates monsters.

Mycenaeus

The old man is referring to an incident in 1998, when the wing of an US fighter jet cut thru the cable of an air lift in the Italian Alps, causing a cabin to fall down and killing 20 people.

Brandon

The milk on the floor bothered me just as much as Simone. What REALLY drove me mad was seeing Meadow using Clorox with bleach on wooden floors. The bleach will ruin any finish on the wood and then the smell of bleach and vomit will get absorbed into the fibers of the wood itself. 🤢 'Commendatori' has always been a favorite of mine from season 2. It reminds me of when one of my Italian friends came back from a trip to Italy and said he never felt less Italian than while he was there. It's his cultural background, but he's 3rd generation Canadian so there was still a big culture shock. The looks on Tony and the gang's faces when they get back to Jersey really sticks out to me. You would think they're driving through a ghetto and not their home. The color palette seems a little colder, compared to the warmer tones in the Italy scenes. Designer Drugs are anything that can be produced in a rough home lab and not by a professional pharmaceutical company. They are a sort of mimic of controlled substances, with a chemical compound that's meant to be as close to the real thing as possible. Ecstasy, meth and bath salts are all forms of designer drugs.

John Suire

Grew up in the Eighties, in the southern US. Definitely threats of the ol’ whippin’s, occasionally gotten but not often. Don’t think I’d do the same if I had kids - not that I found it traumatic myself, but that it’s just not my style. Oddly enough, I’m probably more open to corporal punishment for some crimes rather than imprisonment. Particularly white collar crimes where minimum-security prison seems easier on those with money, or for some lesser violent felonies. Seems more just to give someone a few lashes, then let them get on with their life than lock them up for 10 years, then they have no way of easily reintegrating into society. Plus I doubt anybody wants to get a public whipping more than once.

Jared S.E.

It's a hard balance to find between "tough love" and gentle parenting. We got the belt as children. Not so much during adolescence. But that was mostly out of fear. And partly because we were mostly well behaved. I don't think extreme measures is the way to go. When I was putting my 1 1/2 year old into his car seat and he was throwing a tantrum, this old boomer lady who was walking past said, "You need to slap that kid." The amount of times I hear boomers and Gen X-ers wear their rough upbringings as a badge of honor is sickening. "We were taught respect. We got a good ass kicking and we turned out fine." No you didn't. You think it's ok hit kids with belts. One morning before school, my dad had an outburst. I was 8 years old when I told my mom that I was going to school that day, but I wasn't coming home. She asked where I was going to go, and I said I didn't know. Just not home. That same morning, my mom and us kids packed up our things and left. The divorce was a long time coming, so when we left it was a relief.

REDR58

It was a Marine Corps EA-6B Prowler, an electronic warfare aircraft. The jet was a variant of the A-6 Intruder attack/bomber aircraft. Not a “fighter” as such as neither variant was intended for air to air combat.

maikeru

some specific questions for italians here: in the italian dub tony & his gang all understand and speak italian, so needing a translator in italy is more or less nonsensical. so, how did they dub around this problem? I live in a country where dubbing is common and I know a thing or two about it but I never researched this particular problem. and this is a thing in any language: in french dub, for example, the protagonists also don´t need an interpreter/translator for french in france. when there are 1-2 sentences they probably can "hide" it (as in: they don´t translate 1:1 at all to hide a translation is going on), but whole dialogues in scenes with a translator present translating to someone is a bigger task. an other question: could it be that they didn't translate the sentence "the amount of sexual harassment that I was subjected to." (janice is talking here about her trips to italy) directly 1:1, but instead chose a "softer" sentence for the italian dub?

Inkpendude

I only remember my mom slaping my once in my life, and I remember that because it was such a rare thing for her to do. Deserved probably lol, but she did had a special belt with spikes that she used as a threat, although she never actually used it.

Jesse Nkinsi

If I had acted like Meadow in my teens I would be dead honestly. Then again Meadow is a lot closer with her parents then I ever was. We pretty much had an employee/ manager relationship. and I actively avoid them now in my adult years so I don't know which is better.

Brandon

I'm not Italian, but it might just be sort of understood by the audience that based on the situation, Tony and the crew are technically speaking English, even though everyone is speaking Italian in the dub. If the dubbers are clever, they might have even used different dialects to differentiate the two groups. Metal Gear Solid 3 is a pretty good example of this happening in a video game. The entire voice acting cast is speaking English, but there's one tiny line of dialogue where someone says "by the way, your Russian is excellent". It lets the player know that when there's Russian characters onscreen, then they are *technically* speaking Russian.

Cally

Punishment in my family was never physical (at least to me - my older brother and sister have different experiences. To be honest, I wasn't a "bad" kid but for the minor things I did wrong it would be verbal telling off which if I'm honest my mum could be pretty hurtful in the wrong mood. Dad left it basically to her. Having said that, I'm in my 50s and even now I would never swear at (or in front of) my parents.

REDR58

I have never seen the show before watching it now with this reaction, but I knew about the ending years ago when it was discussed heavily in the media at the time.

REDR58

Also, friend of Orson Welles.

REDR58

Toodle-Fucking-Oo Richie Aprile is played by David Proval who portayed Red’s friend Snooze in “The Shawshank Redemption.” He is also in the 1989 “UHF” movie with Weird Al Yankovic. Physical discipline was not part of my childhood as I never really acted up and my parents would never have done anything like that. Not that I was a perfect kid, but the few things I did do that were wrong, I was smart (or lucky) enough to never get caught… Commendatori Swiss actor Sofia Milos played Annalisa Zucca. The carjacked car Tony was talking about is a 1999 Mercedes-Benz ML 430 built in the United States (apparently in Alabama). I would honestly have expected a European buyer with means to be more interested in a Mercedes to be sourced from Germany as opposed to United States, but it is possible that specific model was only built for the US market and not for Germany or Europe, but I’m not sure about that though. If it were me, on balance, I would want a Mercedes (or any German car) to be made in Germany and not in the United States or any other country. That’s probably just a little bit of snobbishness/prejudice on my part though. Just like I wouldn’t want my Swiss chocolate made in California or whatever. I wonder, not knowing anything about future episodes if there will be will be any more stories set in Italy. It seems like flying everyone out to Italy from the US just to film a single episode would be a fairly big deal. I mean, even The Brady Bunch filmed 3 whole episodes when they went to Hawaii!

mpd

If you watched Step Brothers, you know that divorce can be devastating for your kids at any age

Jpsynergy

I was definitely spanked as a kid but mellowed out a lot as a teen and it didn't happen. Not in a million years would I dare talk to my parents the way Meadow does. A healthy fear as it kept me in line and out of trouble. You appreciate discipline more as you get older. Parents deal with a lot of shit keeping your ass alive and fed.

Relic

It's too good. In Italy, the guy at the cafe, smoking a cigarette, in the black shirt, that turns away when Paulie says "bon giorno" is David Chase the creator of the series.

MacGuffinStuff

Yeah I got my ass beat lol, Gen X with Mexican parents, well actually Chicano but they kept the traditions alive. Worst 6 words ever when I was 6, 7: "Wait till your dad gets home." Lot of times that was a babysitter, both my parents worked, and being honest I was also kind of a little asshole sometimes when I was a kid if I didn't like the babysitter, my little sister would team up with me too. They fucked me up when they got my gramma to live with us and babysit, she didn't take shit off me, loved her though, and I used to trip out on her little altar/ofrenda, a jewelry cabinet and bowl, she was into the Saints and a little of that old Mexican stuff. No bullshit, it was the 80s, my gramma would give me a handwritten note that said I had her permission to buy her a pack of Marlboro Reds, I would take it to the corner market and do just that, and with the change I'd buy a pack of baseball cards and a candy bar, probably a Whatchamacallit. Analog times were wild.

John Miller

My parents were divorced when I was 6 and my brother 10. We were very lucky because my parents never said a bad word about each other and never tried to play us against each other. And I think that's the big difference between children of broken homes. Far too often, parents will use the kids or blame the kids or take it out on the kids, in some way. Or try to get the kids to hate the other parent. I never experienced that. It was just, Oh, mom's not living here any more.

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Jason Harris

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Twiska Brand

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Otis99

For a couple years now I've been in a relationship with someone who had kids with their ex. I feel bad for the kids because their dad doesn't come around. Sometimes it'll get to my girlfriend but I told her I don't think we should bad mouth him in front of them. At the end of the day, even if he's not the best, that's their dad and I, especially, don't want to be the one to get in between them. I just try to be there for them as best as I can.

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Furious~Foxy

Okay, I do have some shame about this, but watching Meadow in the third episode reminded me so much of myself when I was 11-15. I never talked to my parents like that but I was not a good kid either in my tween years especially. When I was a little kid, my mom was in a physically abusive relationship with my dad, and she would take that out on me and my sister with liberal use of physical punishments for small things. After their divorce, she had time to calm down and realized that’s what she did and she made us genuinely scared of her, so she never touched us again and wasn’t comfortable with my step dad doing it. So physical discipline was off the table. I was (still am) a very introverted person, so grounding me did nothing except give me a reason to stay home. The only thing that was somewhat effective was taking away all my stuff, but all that meant was I going to annoy them cause I was bored. They really didn’t have the means to discipline me at that age and I knew that in someway, and took full advantage. Acting remorseful and suggesting a punishment I liked more was a classic routine, and the punishment rarely lasted as long as they said it would. I can’t really explain Meadow’s eye roll, but it did remind me of a moment around 15-16. I don’t remember the exact details, but it dawned on me that my parents were human, not saints or monsters like I had built them up in my mind, and all I was doing was basically torturing them and potentially messing up my future at the same time. I remember being very disappointed in them, I might have rolled my eyes. The realization that my parents didn’t have power over me didn’t make me run while, but actually calmed me down. I guess I found I couldn’t push anymore because they couldn’t push back. Anyways, I doubt it is the reason, but the eye roll could have been more like disappointment at her seeing her parents fold so easily, and actually wanting them to push back a little or feeling a little bad about taking advantage of them after hearing the argument between Janice and her parents. Again, I really doubt that’s the truth but that’s how I read it.

BangDroid

Is it possible to post the YouTube link for the sync your own copy version in the mean time?

blerbaberpaterb

hes probably busy coding, lol its just george holding everything up... and its 5 am in west coast canada i think so simones prob just sound asleep.

BangDroid

From the sounds of it, there's nothing to code, just waiting on the hosting provider. It seems like they had an outage or fault.

Alex Leach

When I first visited Vesuvius 40 years ago there was a distinct massive crater - and a sulphur smell. A vent blasted out steam every minute just below the lip - a smooth stone had been placed to make a seat. The steam was supposed to be therapeutic for your back. I visited again many years later but by that time the crater had all but collapsed.

Glenner7

Wheelchair boulevard - hilarious (Wilshire Blvd in L.A.)

Venusian

"A healthy fear as it kept me in line and out of trouble. You appreciate discipline more as you get older. " I am feeling alienated by many of these comments from Americans and Canadians. Never in my life have I ever wished that my daughter would be afraid of me. I have never punished her, and I don't insist she refers to me as 'sir' or anything like that. And she's a sensitive child, brimming with empathy for other kids.

Angela D. Mitchell

Really fantastic conversation you guys, about parenting and punishment! First off, I empathize with both of you because I grew up super poor too, and never had an allowance, really. Partly because if I was with my Mom, she was too poor. And if I was with my Dad (we bounced around a lot between them), he had our allowances on a "fine system," so he would fine us for each thing we did wrong and then subtract from our allowances. I never actually remember having any allowance left -- ever! LOL. And Dad was military, and very much believed in corporal punishment, so we got spankings as kids, the belt if we were SUPER bad (I can't think of what we ever did though), and then switchings as young teenagers. I would certainly call this a level of abuse nowadays, and am glad this is no longer acceptable parenting. But -- I'm not mad at anybody, either. The older I get, I realize that Dad was just doing what he had been taught by even more strict, unforgiving parents (like George's grandfather). He later apologized to my sister and me for being so strict, and we have had a great relationship as adults. It was fun watching Dad evolve into a kinder, more thoughtful person (retiring from the military definitely helped). Meanwhile, these episodes were a lot of fun. It's a slow burn since it's still early in the season, but I like the way Richie is basically a live grenade into the mix right when things were settling down again. I cannot STAND Janice, but I find her fascinating because every single thing she says or does is some form of psychological warfare she learned from Livia. She's never sincere. If she's nice to Tony, she wants something. If she's nice to Carmella, she's trying to position Carmella with her against Tony, etc. Everything with her is in service to her schemes. Which was why I loved it when Carm called her out on her thing with Richie, who is the worst of the worst, and actually laughed in her face at her hypocrisy. But I was disappointed in Carm for not supporting Pussy's wife more, and for actively trying to keep her from divorcing. I can see that it's about her own feelings and situation, but still -- that poor woman deserves some peace. Let her leave. Last but not least, I enjoyed the Italy stint for what it said about each of the characters. Christopher wasted it. Paulie bumbled through and missed all his chances for enjoyment (but will then talk it up forever), and Tony meanwhile actually stayed cool and managed to walk away with what he needed. I was (sadly) surprised and impressed that he didn't sleep with the female don. And then he gets home and Carm is listening to "Time to Say Goodbye" again, wishing for sweeping romance and life -- and Tony walks back in. And she just looks. Incredible ending.

Jpsynergy

Good for you. My nephew is the same and is never spanked. Truth be told, it’s not like I was actually afraid of my parents by the time I got to the age where I was rarely disciplined. I didn’t act out because I knew I couldn’t just walk all over my parents with no consequences. They weren’t perfect, but both were working class poor who loved us and couldn’t be around all the time to make sure we didn’t do stupid shit which my sisters especially did. I lean more towards being anti corporal punishment, but it’s clear that the large majority of the world does not. But it changes with generations, I’m guessing there’s a huge drop off in America between millennials and gen x.

Christophe

I agree with you on the German cars, I think it's meant to portray Tony's slightly arrogant American attitude. We don't get confirmation that the Italians actually think that the fact it's made in America is something especially valuable, Tony just assumes so. It is kind of weird that they splurged for this Italy trip with all the guest actors and the locations and all that for just a single episode. I remember watching a Friends BTS (or maybe it was DVD commentary or something) about how much of a pain it was to shoot in London. Of course that was a four-camera sitcom production used to working on simple sets, but still. The amount of extra work and cost involved to shoot an episode like this must be insane.

China Andronicus

Sicilian American. We got the wooden spoon. But it leads me to ask if you have some sort of issue with us. I noticed first in the Godfather where you insinuated that Americans can’t speak Italian, then here you mocked us for being connected to our heritage. That’s how a lot of us are raised. I live in a town entirely built on and by Sicilian immigrants to the point they just made a documentary about it. It’s very steeped in tradition and we’re proud of our history. Sorry if that’s weird to you, I guess, but I don’t think it deserves to be made fun of.