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Willow (Patreon)

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Willow | Canadian First Time Watching | Movie Reaction | Movie Review | Movie Commentary

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ArcadeAndy

Someone needs to take George's photoshop privileges away

Life in the cave of Garanoga

Ok. I don't look at the upcoming post because I like to be surprised and I absolutely can't wait to get home from work and watch this one with you two. When I was a kid this movie was like an initiation step for friendship lol. And it's always nice to see Mr. Davis in a lead role. Hollywood legend that he is.

s0rd3z

Been looking forward to this. I know the movie by heart but it's been a while. It's a hidden gem and my personal favorite Kilmer & Davis roles. Good set pieces and action, humor, feels, it has everything for a nerd like me.

Mike FromOz

Great photoshop. I was hoping it would be a two-headed monster with Simone and George, but this is great as well 😁

beefjerkywizard

Madmartigan is easily one of my favourite fictional characters of all time. I was 6 when it came out and my dad took me to see it in the theatre. Just the two of us which was a rare treat since going to the movies usually had to be a whole family affair and a movie both my older sister and mom approved of. I have loved it ever since. Can't wait to watch the reaction.

Crawnch!

This thumbnail is everything.

Eversharpe

George doesn't want the Sopranos infecting his Fallout content. So he's not into Deathclaw Mommy / Tony Soprano crossovers. That's disappointingly mundane.

Matrim

This was the first film I ever saw in the theatre.

Pam Nail

The single most expressive baby (well, several babies) I have ever seen in a movie.

Jeff K.

I know this is a hot take, and borderline controversial but I'm going to stand my ground when I say this: Val Kilmer was a very handsome man.

DaveJ

My desktop is a mess. Mainly things I screenshot that never end up deleting. Im in the middle of cleaning out my digital horde.

DaveJ

Havent seen this movie in ages! Meegosh (David J Steinberg) was in one of my favorite episodes of Are You Afraid of the Dark from when I was a kid. He killed himself years ago. Super sad. I used to like to watch this movie with Legend (1985 movie with Tom Cruise) when I was in the mood to get stoned and watch fantasy flicks.

Adam Ingram

For good 80s fantasy you should also add Dragonslayer and Legend (dc) to the list.

Tay Schumaker

Magic system way way predate Sanderson

Blkm44

You killed it with this thumbnail guys lol

Amos T Fairchild

Nah. My Fedora desktop has zero icons because I use it all the time and that's not really the normal thing to do anyway, but I have a win 11 desktop with a heap as I'm just too lazy to bother cleaning it up when some apps adds them automatically. They are covered with apps 99% of the time anyway. if I use that pc. Mostly it's asleep.

blerbaberpaterb

pretty sure they said the current obsession with systems really became a big thing with sanderson. he even said 'for people like us'. literally self dig.

Jeb Manning

After this, can we please get a reaction to The Dark Crystal? It's Jim Henson's other fantasy movie, and it's another example of awesome 80s fantasy.

Elvenwitch

Bringing up terribly sorted desktops made me laugh. I started doing IT in 97 and had a very organized desktop. I kept this up until the inclusion of a pinable taskbar. After that, my organization of the desktop stopped being as important, and now I rarely use my desktop for anything. Also, a great joke to play on people is take a screenshot of their desktop and then use it as their background. Then move all the icons into a folder and place it so it blends in.

ArcadeAndy

100% this is a kids movie, and I can confirm watching it as a kid was amazing. Rewatching decades later, it does feel a little bit like Ron Howard and George Lucas decided to make a movie out of their D&D campaign, and I'm here for that too.

megamoo chilli

I have two columns of icons and when it grows much bigger I cull it. I don't like it getting in the way of my wallpaper, and I want to be able to find stuff quickly, And I only have six icons along the taskbar. I've worked hard at debloating windows 11 and decluttering everything. The effort is worth it. I've been deep in the chaos before. Now I feel clean.

Tay Schumaker

For them I guess, but people were obsessing over magic systems far before Sanderson came along. Maybe he’s just what opened it up for them

HipsterImposter

Can't wait to watch along when I get off work. A couple fantasy recommendations. The Dark Crystal - Dragonheart

blerbaberpaterb

okay? no one is denying that, nor did they said it was otherwise?

Christina Doxstader

Family/kids movies were different in the 80s. that is all.

Jeff K.

And it would have been fitting to have their heads on the Eborsisk, since that monster is named after Siskel and Ebert, so it literally does represent critics (so does General Kael, who was named after Pauline Kael). (I haven't finished the reaction so this might come up in the trivia, obviously.)

Tay Schumaker

I mean he literally said “I think older media isn’t as concerned about types of magic…I think that became a thing after Sanderson.” But I’m not trying to get in an argument so not sure why you’re coming so hard. Was just pointing out that magic systems in fantasy were a thing way before Sanderson.

blerbaberpaterb

im coming at this hard because parts of this communities favorite activity isnt watching movies, its to tell S&G that they're wrong. which in turn makes them not want to say what they think, resulting in a lot of half sentences from simone and george cutting out discussions they clearly. and i am specifically responding to you because you are one of the ones who does it the most, in the years ive been here.

Tay Schumaker

I guess I feel honored you know who I am? I barely even comment, especially anymore because of things just like this interaction. I have no interest in going back and forth and I know George and Simone very much do not want the comment section to be like that, so I’ll bow out. Enjoy the movie

Jose Robles

Do not watch the show, it is boring …

Darren Harrison

Val Kilmer met his future wife, Joanne Whalley, while making this movie. Professionally, she went by Joanne Whalley-Kilmer for several years prior to her 1996 divorce from Val Kilmer. At the time of his death in 2025, reports claimed Val Kilmer never got over losing her and considered her the love of his life. They had two children together, and he never remarried.

Jeff K.

Well, I enjoyed it fine for what it was, but the option isn’t there anyway. It’s no longer available anywhere, not even on Disney Plus.

Jeff K.

Tay, I can’t see the replies so I’m pretty sure who is arguing with you because I’ve blocked exactly one person whose entire identity here is to be defensive, argumentative, and contrarian. I would recommend following suit because it’s just so tiresome.

Tay Schumaker

Ah okay. I don’t even comment very often so I was a little worried I had some reputation. I wasn’t trying to accuse George of being wrong, just kind of throwing it out there for discussion. I can see it may have come off as a little crudely worded which wasn’t my intention.

Major Peril

Would also recommend Dragonslayer (1981).

Jedi Lounger

So you have watched some Pre-LotR fantasy but I would be up for more. Fantasy was a hard sell in the 80's and 90's, so it was usually somewhat grounded in reality (there are exceptions) or made on an extreme budget. A non exhaustive list after looking around some. I have excluded movies they have watched. Dragonslayer (1981) Hook (1991) Red Sonja (1985) Dragonheart (1996) Legend (1985) Fire and Ice (1983) Animated. The Sword and the Sorcerer (1982) Time Bandits (1981) The Black Cauldron (1985) Animated. The Dark Crystal (1982) Excalibur (1982) Ladyhawke (1985) Beastmaster (1982) Krull (1983) Conan the Destroyer (1984) The City of Lost Children (1995) Waterworld (1995)

Mike W

Really good. Would also recommend Time Bandits

Gryff

Never clicked a video link so fast in my whole damn life as I did this one. Lets goooooo!

Opti_Frog

It kind of blows my mind that Warwick Davies was only 17 years old when they made this movie.

Angus Kirk

Oh I've been waiting for Willow for so long. This movie was very influential for me during my childhood.

BigGuy209

George, I think this is your masterpiece of the thumbnails. I don’t think you can do any more after this one.

Jeff K.

Classic early ‘80s Val Kilmer movies to add to the list, if they aren’t already there: Top Secret! (his first movie) and Real Genius.

C Perry

This movie is why 9 year old me fell in love Joanne Whalley. And that crush still continues. Truth be told, I simply love everything about this movie. Val and Warwick, Horner's score, the locations, the world building, loved it then and still love it now.

JayF

Kevin Pollak (the drunk/bald brownie) was the third member of the defense team in "A Few Good Men" alongside Tom Cruise and Demi Moore. He was also in "The Usual Suspects". Keep your eye out for him as he's a very talented character actor and comedian/impressionist. He does a great Jim Kirk.

Jomero

While for many their favorite Val Kilmer role may be from Real Genius, Top Gun, Batman, or many others. But for me, his best role and my most favorite was Madmartigan from Willow. This movie was great, and came out during a time when Fantasy movies were an extreme low in both release and popularity.

Jeff K.

He does the best Walken I’ve probably ever heard.

Dwight Scarn

The castle keep with all the old armor and weapons was a feast for my imagination and soul when I saw it for the first time as a kid! One of my faves of all time. Very crucial spark to my love of medieval fantasy!

Maria Forsström

If you want a Val Kilmer movie with a very different feel you guys should watch "The Ghost And The Darkness" (1996). It is based on the true story about the man-eating lions of Tsavo.

Belekai

Karl Pilkington has got a head like a fucking orange :)

Lanny Fisher

I'm surprised that the movie trivia did not mention the fact that Willow was the first feature film to develop software (called "MORF") for the sole purpose of morphing a character. It was the first time morphing was done solely with digital software and without using optical dissolves. As far as Val Kilmer's teeth suddenly getting better, you can actually see him polishing off his teeth at 48:48 of your full video.

Major Peril

Have loved this film since it’s release and been a long time coming for this viewing. Thanks for placing it on your schedule, it was a great reaction. So glad to see younger viewers reacting to some of these older fantasy films. Keep it up, please… there’s plenty more to go. Pretty good effort from director Ron Howard from his days of “palling around” with George Lucas after their collaboration on American Graffiti (1973). I understand they’re still good friends today. Here’s some more from Ron Howard you should have on your radar: - Splash (1984) - Cocoon (1985) - Backdraft (1991) - A Beautiful Mind (2001) - The Missing (2003) - The Da Vinci Code (2006) - Angels & Demons (2009) - Rush (2013) - In the Heart of the Sea (2015) - Inferno (2016) - Solo: A Star Wars Story (2018)

Jamie

Anyone else hear the Wrath of Khan music during the snow village escape? Had to check the composer... Yup, James Horner.

Zero Cochrane

“ I love you Sorsha? I don’t love her she kicked me in the face! I hate her! Don’t I?”

Monica Alarcon

Yeah totally. I heard traces of Wrath of Khan and Krull...

Monica Alarcon

I never lose hope of seeing them watch Top Secret some day

OddThomas

Stardust (2007) & Legend for more Fantasy. For more Val Kilmer: Batman Forever, The Ghost and the Darkness

Mastervodo

I am really hoping that Simone and George will watch Conan the Destroyer and Beastmaster some day!

Mastervodo

Some real bangers on there. Fire and Ice, Krull, Beastmaster, Dark Crystal, Legend, Dragonslayer. I would love to see a month of Fantasy Friday movies or D&D Themed Thursdays.

Jamie

Let's not play around... It's Doc Holliday in Tombstone :)

Jonathan Eaton

Everyone please checkout the Game of Thrones spinoff "The Knight of the Seven Kingdoms" so when it gets in a poll you know how great it is.

TexasNight

He also has a great Star Trek bit of the Enterprise vs the Klingons with Jim from show Taxi as commander Krug!

PaulChristopher

Val Kilmer had a reputation for staying in character. When he played pleasant people, he was pleasant to be around.

Simone's Coconut Squire

This movie has my favorite teaser trailer of all time. It has lived rent-free in my head since I saw it in the theater. I don’t remember what movie I went to see, but I VIVIDLY remember seeing that teaser.

gfixler

I'm excited to watch this again. I was 11 when I went with my mom to see it in a not-full theater, and I loved it so much, that when the credits rolled, I stood up and said, way too loudly, "This was the greatest movie I've ever seen!" Everyone in the theater laughed.

Dirge Girl

Willow! Throwin' more weight behind The Dark Crystal (1982) [Fantasy/Adventure] recommendations. Addin' Val Kilmer's The Island of Dr. Moreau (1996) [Horror/Sci-fi] for consideration. Also tossin' Val Kilmer's Real Genius (1985) [Comedy/Sci-fi] out there for Jon Gries recently bein' in Fallout (NCR Ranger Biff).

gfixler

I'm a full tilt nerd/weirdo, so I have three screens, but no desktop. A very long time ago, on Windows, I was that guy, with 2 monitors full of icons, struggling to find anything I didn't use often. Now (and for 20 years as of this year!), I'm on Linux, using the i3 tiling window manager. When I open a program, it slots in among the rest, tiled, so I pretty much don't work with floating windows, either, unless it's one that's set to float, like the calculator And I did say full tilt nerd/weirdo, so I don't even use a qwerty-style keyboard anymore, as of more than 1.5 years ago. I use steno. I'm writing this on a Uni from StenoKeyboards. Steno is like the greatest macro pad ever created, so if wanted to keep a bunch of things to paste into messages, I'd make up an outline for each, like say I wanted to be able to insert the cinebingers.ca URL; I'd probably have a "namespace" stroke, prefixing all URLs I want to be able to paste quickly, to cordon them off from the rest of the definitions. I'd use something like KWRURL, steno for YURL (because URL is "url", and *URL, with the star key, is "URL", all caps, and U starts with a Y sound, like yoo, so it's memorable). Then I'd tack on URLs I wanted to paste as a second, memorable stroke, so yours would probably be KWRURL/SPWEUPBG, which is YURL/SBING, two strokes. Stroke those two, and your entire URL would be spit out into whatever textfield or editor I was focused in.

mhan00

This might be the greatest thumbnail ever made. Simone was clearly put on Earth to be the baby in Willow. Well done, George!

gfixler

Oh, absolutely on the tech-confused with crazy desktops covered in icons. My mom, who is not good with computers, has like 3 layers deep of icons covering her Macbook screen. It's dizzying. When I visited my dad last, and saw his laptop, he was the same way. They're both mid-70s. Every place I've worked, the people, often producers or managers, who were not the tech people, and would take forever bringing up a doc, because they couldn't find it (as always), were the ones with desktops littered with stuff. Most of the programmers had fairly tidy desk tops, or at least they were organized into little sections of related icons. By the way, any time I think of a screen covered in icons, I think of this classic bit of brilliant web comedy, with an IT guy just trying to play some Halo, while having to help a tech moron from sales: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRGljemfwUE

Life in the cave of Garanoga

I used to do Kpop edits and wallpapers and so on and when George just mentioned the folder nesting doll I felt that in my soul lol. Just folders inside folders, inside folders. My desktop back then was gross looking organized confusion at best.

REDR58

I keep no more than a dozen folders arrayed around the edges of my various machines with multiple subfolders of stuff in those.

REDR58

I’m a weirdo in that despite being right-handed all my life, I have been using my various mice only with my left hand and right hand on the keyboard because shortly after I got my first computer in 1995 (Compaq Presario 978CDTV) and the first game I installed was Doom. In my mind, the arrow keys under the Home and End keys were naturally to be used to move around in Doom (and later Duke Nukem 3D and countless FPS games after that) and the mouse was for looking around/aiming. I have never been a WASD-using player because that just looks and feels uncomfortable and wrong. So after 30+ years of using computers, I cannot use a mouse right-handed.

gfixler

I was so beautifully organized for years, and then suddenly it just all fell apart on me. Now it's just pure chaos.

Jonathan Eaton

Val Kilmer's early movies are a good fit for this channel. Top Secret! (1984) Real Genius (1985)

ArcadeAndy

I just made the switch to Linux, and Steam is literally the only thing on my desktop right now. Honestly, I can't think of anything else I would even add to it.

ArcadeAndy

Real Genius is such a sleeper of a gem.

ArcadeAndy

It's too good! They need to be stopped! This is internet breaking stuff they're doing here. :p

ArcadeAndy

Honestly, I could listen to Kevin Pollak tell stories for hours. He's one of those actors who's been in everything and has so many great anecdotes.

ExtraBigAssTaco

The animal that Fin Raziel was turned into is a Possum. They are different, and not actually closely related to the North American, or Virginia Opossum. Also marsupials, but tree dwelling, and native to Australia and New Guinea, mostly.

JBK405

This film gets that HEAVY nostalgia, since it was one of the few "serious" (even though it's very comical) fantasy films from the era. it BELIEVED in magic and the power of a hero's journey, so for everybody who saw it as a kid it was a major touchstone for decades. It had a sequel TV series a few years ago, which used almost all of the surviving cast (And a lot of real-life family members and relatives for other roles). The TV series is beloved by a sect of the fandom, but it was hit HEAVILY by studio vengeance after it was released, with a "it's not OFFICIALLY cancelled by they didn't renew the options so the crew couldn't make any more episodes even if they wanted to" and then it was removed from the Disney service very quickly so it can't be watched legally ANYWHERE.

Twiska Brand

I view fantasy films in pre- vs post-Peter Jackson LOTR. E.g. this film, The Princess Bride, The Neverending Story, etc are pre Peter Jackson. If you want another good pre-PJ LOTR fantasy movie, I suggest Excalibur from the 80s.

Be Human

Some cool flicks: Natural Born Killers Lucky Number Sleven The Royal Tenenbaums Layer Cake

OddThomas

Yes a lot of shared cast members in that

Lola Lirola

As far as I know, this really came about because Lucas wanted to do Lord of the Rings for real, but either couldn't secure the rights or it fell through or something, and this was his version. Like, yeah, Bavmorda doesn't sound at all like Mordor, and FinnRazel is not at all Galadriel, and the brownies do not resemble Merry and Pippin at all, and the blonde guy is totally not Sean Bean's Boromir... 😉😉 (I mean, you even called out the Minas Tirith equivalent!) It also shows how impossible it is to do the whole thing in just one movie, because they skipped a lot and moved a lot of pieces out of order. But this movie was such a childhood favorite for me! Just fun all around.

Lola Lirola

Oh, and yeah, that was the most expressive movie baby of all time! She was so great (she was actually twins, so I guess *they* were so great).

Jayson Phillips

HAHAHAHA The cover is cracking me up!!!!

REDR58

Folders within folders is the way to go!

REDR58

Time for a virtual spring cleaning!

John

Real Genius is great

John

1+ Excalibur

Marcus Hicks

I wanna give 6 thumbs up just for the thumbnail 😆.

Marcus Hicks

100% Excalibur.....and Ladyhawke

Maeve1667

For Legend, must be US version with Tangerine Dreams soundtrack. I love the additional scenes in the UK version but the music killed it for me.

James W.

I'm glad George caught on early that the intended audience was kids. Like many of these movies I grew up with, they don't hold up super well to modern expectations for genre fiction in various mediums. It is cool seeing the influence this had on stuff like LOTR, even though, iirc, this movie massively under-performed. I think they expected it to be the new Star Wars but it kinda fizzled. I see a lot of Willow's influence in Honor Among Thieves; I hope we get a follow up to that film some day. I feel like the studio failed that film in a similar way to how Willow was treated back in the day Unrealistic expectations setting it up to under-perform and "fail". I don't think the writer for it was an old school ttrpg dude since they were super niche back then, but as a huge nerd, my brain sees the botched rolls that led to the scenes in this story. I used to just assume Bavmorda conveniently obliterated herself in the end, but on this viewing, it seems like, in her rage and panic she broke her own ritual circle and it sent her to the underworld instead of the child. Madmartigan has so many botched skill checks that he basically RPs into awesome moments. Fun watch with y'all and glad the modern tendency to clinically and cynically rip apart older films didn't happen here. It is hard to turn off that part of the brain sometimes, and just enjoy things on their terms.

James W.

I hate that that trend that Zaslav started at Warner during the pandemic, of not just cancelling projects, but removing them from availability so that the creators don't get their residuals and such. I canceled HBO and D+ when they started pulling that crap. It sucks because I miss out on some content I would like to have access to but I don't feel good about staying subscribed so fuck-stick CEOs like Zaslav and Iger can buy another super-yatch while the folks who make the content that generates that money are scrambling to pay bills.

MacGuffinStuff

I've loved this movie since I was a kid, I think my mom took us to see this with my aunt and cousins at the theater, and I still love it, never gets old. It's in my top 10 Val Kilmer characters and performances, it's like: Doc Holliday, Madmartigan, Chris Knight from Real Genius, Perry Van Winkle in Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, Iceman, Philip in Alexander, Colonel Patterson in The Ghost and the Darkness, Chris Shiherlis in Heat, and Elvis (not gonna name the movie though I'm waiting for them to watch it). This is one of my favorite fantasy movies, especially 80s, along with Ridley Scott's arguably most underrated movie, LEGEND, with Tom Cruise just before Top Gun, and Tim Curry in one of my favorite of his performances (and Billy Barty, the High Nelwin). My only problem with this movie is that I prefer the extended cut which is a much better story and film in my opinion, but I can't find it streaming, the US theatrical cut is great don't get me wrong, but when you watch the extended scenes, it's much longer but worth it. And of course KRULL, sci-fi fantasy, when I saw it as a kid I loved it, then I saw it as a teen and thought it was campy and stupid, but still fun, now I love it more every time I see it, it is campy, but so ambitious and the cast, which also has at least one or two members also on EXCALIBUR.

James W.

100%. The soundtrack in that movie rules. There is a song from one of the montages that just randomly pops into my head some 30+ years later. If dementia hits me when I get older, I will be lulling into senility by 80s montage bangerss.

James W.

YEAH! He is Lazlo Hollyfeld to me until I die.

James W.

This movie is still beautiful, but it is one I can no longer watch without over analyzing it. I crushed on Mia Sara so hard. I was like 10 and she had my heart in her fist. Ladyhawk is underrated. The score didn't age well but I feel like that movie is very well put together.

Jay Johnson

Elora Danan = cute Simone = cute Simone as Elora Dana = super cute!

Marcus Hicks

Yes, Inception levels of cute 😉.

Jay Johnson

I enjoyed the series alot. It wasn't perfect, but I enjoyed both the Willow nostalgia with Warwick and some of the other original cast returning, and even some kids of the original cast being involved; and I enjoyed the younger actors they brought in. Sadly, Val Kilmer's health was declining so he wasn't really able to be involved, but they brought in the actual son of Val and Joanne Whalley (who played/plays Sorcha, with the two getting married and having two kids after having met on the original Willow, though they ended up separating later). Terrible that the series got taken off D+ so fast (I can understand a series getting cancelled, but why do you have to erase it entirely?!?)

Jonathan Eaton

This really made me want to watch them react to Time Bandits (1981).

Jesse Coombs

For a moment, I thought Simone had seen this movie, but when she said she hadn't seen it, I was really relieved. These reactions are so much more fun when neither of you have seen the movie. (Granted, they are still fun if one of you has seen it, but a little less so.)

Jayson Phillips

Rem George this was the 80's lol funny now but back then this was a really great movie!

michael denny

this movie is fun in a way I think we've kind of lost in our fantasy that I think we need to get back to. Dnd was close but was more snarky and less charming than willow, still good but not the same. Anyway, great reaction and I can't freaking believe Simone hadn't seen this before.

FranciscoGios

Even though Top Gun was were I knew Val Kilmer was a great actor i think Real Genius was afterwards and down the list I went and I believe all of his movies should be watched. And I just want to add that in one of the LOTR channels I watch, I learned that and you guys might know this in some versions of the books thru the tunnels of the Misty Mountains Gollum unwillingly drops the ring by going thru the tunnels to get to his underground lake were he lives; Bilbo being lost in the same tunnels and mountains and trying to find his way out by crouching finds the ring in plain darkness. By the time Bilbo finds Gollum, Gollum already knew that Bilbo has the ring; Bilbo not knowing what he found hastily ran off from Gollum and scape the Misty Mountains. So Hobbits being Hobbits Bilbo told a story to other Hobbits that him and Gollum played a riddle game of who keeps this price and according to Bilbo, Bilbo won this price. And so all of this a Hobbit finding The Ring was for JRR Tolkien connecting the Hobbits to the story what we know in the movies.

gfixler

Welcome! I just hit my 20th year of Linux this year.

REDR58

I also enjoyed the series quite a bit and it's beyond frustrating that it ends the way to does, but was also pulled without any way to watch it, not even a disc release.

REDR58

Horner loves to borrow from himself! Kind of like John Barry.

REDR58

Just don't confuse William Friedkin's "Sorcerer" (1977) with "The Sword and the Sorcerer" (1982)! But "Sorcerer" (1977) is an *excellent* film.

Muhammad Rahbar

I haven't actually used the desktop on my computer for anything in like 10 years, since I just use programs pinned to the taskbar for shortcuts.

REDR58

Joanne Whalley is stunningly attractive in this movie. Bonus 50+ points for the red hair even though it’s dyed. She is also very good in the 1989 movie Michael Caton-Jones “Scandal” where she stars with Ian McKellan, John Hurt and Bridget Fonda. The late activist and actor and Billy Barty, who plays the “High Aldwyn” was a longtime advocate for little people and founded “Little People of America” in 1957. This is Warwick Davis’ first starring role. As noted below by Bug Duck Energy, Warwick Davis was just 17 years old during the filming of this movie, however Julie Peters who played Willow’s wife, Kiaya, was apparently somewhere between her early 30s to early 40s during the filming of the movie. She only starred in 3 TV/Movie projects and there is little other information about her. Tony Cox, who played one of the Warriors from the Nelwyn village, was also in “Spaceballs,” “Beetlejuice,” “Me, Myself and Irene” and "Bad Santa” as Marcus Skidmore. George makes an excellent point how it was such a good idea to use so many little people in this movie. I really think at least some of the actors in The Lord of the Rings movies should also have been little people. I like how the Nelwyn use pigs as draft animals (though in reality this is less than ideal for a number of reasons, but apparently it has been done). If nothing else, they are not too large to be managed by the Nelwyn. Airk was played by the late Gavan John O'Herlihy who is perhaps otherwise best known for his as Richie Cunningham’s (played by Ron Howard) older brother Chuck Cunningham in first season of the TV series “Happy Days” before the role was recast and then the character removed from the show with no explanation: https://youtu.be/UQfuYtLuV-M?si=C8EySDkauLZglM17 The design of the Ebersisk is really cool. It’s so brutish and bizarre-looking. The late Patricia Hayes played Fin Raziel and for some reason I always think the full transformation of Fin Raziel back to her normal form as happening much earlier in the movie. Speaking of it’s very interesting that we have two elderly women fighting each other. That’s not seen very often in film, of any genre.

Mastervodo

OMG! You have 6 thumbs?! Mutant!

Vez

As some others have suggested, you'd like Top Secret, Real Genius, Ladyhawke, and Legend. I also really want to watch you guys watch Yellowbeard. Joanne Whalley and Val Kilmer met while filming Willow and later married.

Marcus Hicks

Its not even a useful mutation 🤪

Nicholas Bielik

To complete the 80s fantasy film list please check out Excalibur, Legend, The Dark Crystal, and Krull. I think you may have already watched The Princess Bride, Labyrinth, and The Neverending Story on the channel though they’re also great!

Green Nolan

The fact that Simone did not watch this 100 times when she was a kid blows my mind. It's like a genie made it for her with a magic wish.

Simon Pegged Me

Jeff K, thanks for that. I had no idea the monsters were critics—and not just any critics, but box-office and cultural gatekeeping critics. Love it. (I wonder if they ever discussed which head to blow up, Siskel's or Ebert's.

Simon Pegged Me

The actor playing General Kael also played the Nazi mechanic Indiana Jones fights at the airfield in Raiders of the Lost Ark.

SnabbKassa

I couldn't think what else the actor playing the good witch was in, but she is in a Cinebinge-reacted movie! She is the old lady with the dogs in A Fish Called Wanda

Mike FromOz

I absolutely love Krull. It's one of my favourites.

Jacob King

My eighties fantasy list would have to include Return To Oz and The Company of Wolves.

Matt Blanchette

"Excalibur" just got a 4K restoration, actually! So any reacted version they get NOW would look AMAZING! :-D

Jacob King

Two post Jackson films that escaped the influence are Green Knight and Pete’s Dragon but it was ubiquitous for a while. I’ll be interested in the Gerwig Narnia movies if she manages to do something interesting. She used a soundstage for Barbie so hopefully she will reject the Jackson aesthetic.

Mister Forbez

I highly recommend 'Top Secret!" (1984) and 'Real Genius' (1985) for Kilmer's earliest work (both comedies).

Tales of the Fantastic Podcast

Ooh - now that they’ve seen Willow - let’s hope they set The Wayback Machine a few years further back and watch Krull! EDIT - I should have looked into the comments before posting this! Lots of Krull requests in there.

DonDuracell

I never connected with this movie as an adult. Never saw it as a child when it was in cinema.

s0rd3z

This movie, in combination with a Hobbit illustrated book I wish I could find again, started my descent into fantasy. I was 10 when it came out and like Simone I thought there must be more, which there wasn't. But I did find an illustrated Hobbit book, glossy pages, huge book, drawings like the 70's cartoon. I became obsessed with Hobbits, LotR (which was obviously the inspiration for the movie as well as other fantasy/fairy tales) and read anything I could find which lead to other fantasy from Jordan, Feist, Pratchett, Brooks, Sanderson, which branched to sci-fi and Asimov etc. etc. It's more due to timing but this movie kind of influenced who I am today even more than Star Wars when I was kid.

REDR58

That’s Pat Roach. He was also in A Clockwork Orange, one of the Sherpa in Raiders of the Lost Ark (as well as the mechanic), Temple of Doom as the main Thugee henchman who gets rolled over by Indiana, and yet another Nazi in The Last Crusade.

REDR58

Got my 4K of Excalibur disc preordered!

REDR58

Yes he is!

Anders Thomsen

I have 17 icons on my desktop and my background is a Wallpaper Engine picture of Nezuko...

David Crabtree

I highly recommend the 1986 animated classic "Transformers: The Movie". I think George and Simone will be in awe that this movie was made for kids!

Hans Czajkowski Jørgensen

And another welcome :) Hope you're enjoying it. I can't and won't put icons on my desktop. So 0 from me.

Daniel Lanctot

It would be even better if they watched the Transformers series, seasons 1 & 2, BEFORE getting to the movie; would make the reaction so much better and so few people do that before the movie! 🤩👍👍

Adam Vialpando

The video PointlessHub made a video about it and kinda pointed on it the film doesn't really hit as hard unless you watched the series. Not necessarily because of plot, but because of like tone and characters.

Adam Vialpando

That's fair. A good description for this movie I read says that if you enjoyed this as a kid you'll likely still love it. But for many adults it likely won't click. And I can respect that.

Athenor

Great movie,watched it growing up and read the sequel novel, this movie also cemented my love for redheads, no brownie magic required 😆 there was also a game for this movie that was notorious at the time for difficulty, but I enjoyed the game despite it's lack of intuitive flow and frustrating sword mechanics glad you enjoyed it

SnabbKassa

I remember watching this when it was in cinemas. The mutant trolls are disturbingly well done. The "not a woman!" rampage and the talking possum are so funny. Overall it's much funnier than I remembered.

Dana Wayne

Hey guys - since you liked the movie - you should watch the premier episode of Season 2 of a Sitcom called "Life's too Short". It stars Warwick Davis and guest stars Val Kilmer as they spend the episode trying to con producers to raise money for "Willow 2" - but Val Kilmer is a Diva and insulted when he keeps finding out that people don't remember that he played one of the Batmans too. Here is the IMDB: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2807352/ And here's a short clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yMmiJHOLuI

Greg Beach

Since you loved this I really think you should watch Stardust (2007) as well.

Matt Blanchette

Also gets rolled in "Barry Lyndon" and "Never Say Never Again"!

Matt Blanchette

He was also the character model for Sam in the Bakshi version of "Lord of the Rings", which... they've not reacted to that one, have they? :-/

Random Nevermind

Ronia, the Robber's Daughter (1984) is a good one. btw

Jay

I am ECSTATIC you both loved Willow. One of my all time favorite movies growing up. this movie came out about a year or 2 after I started playing D&D (and d&d type TTRPGS) so this movie was the best representation of that time of High fantasy D&D and Tolkien. This is what we had and I WORE out the vhs. Seeing the genuine joy in Simone's face the ENTIRE film and hearing George praise the set design and costuming just makes me feel so vindicated to have loved this movie for so long. George your comment about cyclical inspiration was a bullseye. And yes Elora Dannon is the greatest baby actress of all time.

Jay

Just do yourselves a favor...don't track down The Disney plus Willow TV show that was so bad they took it OFF of Disney plus not long after it released.

Jay

True buuut. It is just a saturday morning cartoon. Just random stories that have no TRUE arc. Maybe we could give them like 10 episodes to watch that really give them the gist of everything and THEN The amazing movie.

Jay

He was also a Pro Wrestler.

Jay

I blame her parents. They failed her (ok I know nothing about her life...please dear god let there be a good parental relationship. I'm just making a silly joke hoping the worst thing they ever did was not show her Willow.)

Jay

They SOOOOOO need to watch UHF. Dumb dumb dumb fun!

Jay

Lucky number Sleven is SOO good and so slept on. Even I skipped it at first. It had a title that annoyed me and terrible markteing that was then OVER marketed. I had a friend make me watch it and it was a rare occasion that I was so made at myself for being terribly wrong about a movie. Not sure i have seen anything else that looked SO bad and turn out amazing.

David Lonewolf Wright

Please watch Stardust! I can see it becoming one of Simone's favorite movies.

WastedPo

They took that Willow show off, but it had nothing to do with it being good or bad. (Think of all the stuff on any given streaming service that is hot garbage.) It got tossed with a whole bunch of other content to avoid paying residuals to the people who made the shows. And yes, some of those lost shows were very good. (The Mysterious Benedict Society was a gem.)

Logan Kerlee

Current desktop - https://ibb.co/XZgWVFhq Willow - Oh gosh, I'm so excited for you two to watch this! :D This here's a childhood fave of mine. I first watched this movie when I was MEGA young! I was only four years old! :) THE MUSIC THEME FOR THIS MOVIE IS SO DAMN AWESOME!! xD hahahahaa, listening to it always puts a smile on my face. :) lmao, right Simone, they aren't ordinary normal dogs. Instead they're called something else that I'm having trouble remembering. (prolly will post later) Looked it up and yeah, they're just called Death Dogs, I guess. Val Kilmer wasn't a huge actor when this was made. He was only in one large budget movie before this - Top Gun. lol, Burglekutt is awful, yeah. lmao, I love sets in this movie for sure. Good memory Simone and George! lol, each of you remembered one of their names. :) This scene with the dogs genuinely scared me when I was very young! They did an incredible job with this movie! :) Ranon's a great name for sure! His entire family is so damn sweet! It makes me so happy seeing all of this! :) Nothing but genuine happy feels. xD LOVE Val Kilmer in this! lol, think Dungeons and Dragons rules and you're good. :) They did an incredible job with scale on this movie! Their buildings as well as the directing and camerawork are all done in a way that positively feature the dwarf sized people. :) lmao, the names aren't that bad George! If little me as a kid could remember and say their names they aren't too complex or strange. Bavmorda's the big one so far that's strange but that's easy to pronounce. Or wait - Vonkar as well, I guess. Strange names but not difficult to say/pronounce, I feel. I mean, Meegosh is weird but that's definitely easy to say. :) Willow isn't a very ordinary peck, he's a sorcerer! :P :D I think that was the first Wilhelm scream that I ever heard. Too old? This is a fantasy movie, George! Are there things that are more geared toward kids? Obviously, yeah! This movie was filmed in New Zealand and Wales! Good job, you two. :) Yup! Good call George! Those creatures are trolls. xD I love what the first troll gets transformed into. :D This pig scene never scared me as a kid - I just thought this was cool as hell. :) Nope, George this isn't a Stan Winston film. The visual effects were instead done by Industrial Light and Magic. :) I was thinking it was Stan Winston as well! :P xD No - Simone!! Razel does NOT look like Denathor from Lord of the Rings! hahahahaha, wow. :P lol, love both of your reactions to Bavmorda coming back to consciousness! Airk's one cool dude, despite him being an asshole off and on throughout the movie. That kill was so badass! I swear - it set the bar for me with swordfights. After this it was tough for a movie to impress me. I'm glad you both remembered the disappearing pig trick! :D I love that you both super enjoyed this! This movie is my top favorite fantasy movie of all time. The swords and sorcery, drama and all of the amazing characters!! Throughout this movie you're introduced to so many different people/creatures and by the end you can still totally remember their names and a bit about them as well! Or, at least I always could. :D BIG TIME, YEAH!! This movie contained an actual group of dwarfs! So many of the people in this were dwarfs. :) Yeah!! Sorsha/Joanne Whalley and Madmartigan/Val Kilmer got together in real life and had a daughter together. :) That bit always makes me smile.

Logan Kerlee

Ooooh, I'm jealous that you got to watch this in theaters! Happy for ya, though. :)

Logan Kerlee

I think that they reacted to Legend some time ago. :)

Logan Kerlee

lol, I did this trick to many people over the years! It's a lot of fun. :P

Logan Kerlee

You can still find it though! :) Really is a shame that the show died and was removed from everything. :(

DaveJ

Not seeing it if I search. Mightve been one of the ones lost in the beginning.

Drew Acheson

Back in the day, this and the animated Hobbit/LotR movies was all we D&D nerds had.

funky weapon

I don't think I've seen Willow since I was like, 10. I don't remember it being this good, but then again I was watching stuff like LEGEND and Neverending Story and my personal favorite, Flight of Dragons. Willow always seemed like a step below those in terms of my enjoyment. watching it again as an adult though, I appreciate it a lot. Willow is a great character. The performances are appropriately hammy. everyone knows they're in a kids/family movie and they do great work. the monsters are awesome, too. the pig-men and the weird poop hydra thing's birth, movies just used to have that. kids movies especially. just one random scene where shit gets real. I kinda miss those.

John Suire

George mentioned that even though he’s the main character, Willow himself doesn’t do alot. I’d argue his role is “the glue.” His good-hearted nature draws people around him and he brings out their best. Madmartigan may be the epic swashbuckler, Sorsha the turncoat hero, etc, but none of them would have found these roles or had their situations turn without Willow.

WastedPo

I'm glad you guys enjoyed this. (You're sometimes hard to predict.) Willow was a favorite of mine growing up, and I still count it among my favorite all-time movies. It's kind of funny how you were comparing the tropes and archetypes in this to Lord of the Rings. Of course, they're both drawing from those Joseph Campbell "Hero's Journey" archetypes, so there's going to be a lot of familiar elements. If you REALLY want to be distracted, compare Willow to the original Star Wars trilogy. There is literally a parallel character in Star Wars for every single character in Willow.

Jeff K.

Willow is almost like if Sam Gamgee was the central figure of LOTR (Willow’s magical aspirations aside) instead of Frodo.

Jeff K.

I didn’t realize until that show what an amazing dry wit Warwick Davis has. He fits so well into that world that when the new show “sequel” to Willow was announced they leaned into it, and the promos were hilarious because they just let Warwick cook with that same type of humor.

REDR58

They have not reacted to the animated movie, but they may have seen it? I don’t know.

Angela D. Mitchell

I know this is one of those big "nostalgia effect" movies that people gush about now because it was part of their childhoods, but I just don't think this is a very good movie. I saw it years ago, gave it another chance here, and yikes. Sure, the cast is fun but it just looks and feels like a bad Hobbit/Star Wars mishmash to me, and most of the creatures are so visually ugly. But my main problem is the writing -- as George says, Willow doesn't do much. He's a figurehead character, a Bilbo ripoff stuck on the sidelines while Madmartigan swashbuckles through. It's just distractingly bad for me and remained bad rewatching with y'all here years later.