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The Sopranos 207-208 (Patreon)

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Potsi

Gabagool time!

TheLeftPecOfTheLord

You guys should definitely watch Swingers, both Vince Vaughn and Jon Favreau’s breakout roles

8bitAndy

When G&S finish The Sopranos, they will have seen most of the consensus best shows in television history. I'd really like to hear their rankings for best and/or favorite TV shows of all time at some point, just because it's kind of fun to talk about.

DaveJ

King of Comedy mention in this episode! Thats a great movie. Scorcese has so many classics that I think it gets slept on these days although its influence on The Joker got it mentioned quite a bit for awhile. Also, Janeane Garofalo is my ultimate 90's crush.

newhastings

Sorry u got spoiled on the crying game lol

newhastings

Also should do after hours too

Patrick - Excelsior

The connection from Richard to Dick was due to English rhyming. "Richard" was shortened to "Rick," which then rhymed to become "Dick"

Robinson vs. Parkinson's

OK, this has got to be the episode that brings SWINGERS into the sphere of reaction attention.

Prune Tracy

A D-Girl is a "development girl". Its a hollywood/show business term for a low level assistant within the industry (at the time usually female). Hence the angry response "I'm a Vice President!"

BigM

I'm surprised you don't know what confirmation is. Even here in Sweden where we are very secular most kids gets confirmed it's basically where you confirm your baptism and explore and try to deepen you religion. Most kids do it just because they get a bunch of gifts when they do it, at least here in Sweden. Personally I have always been anti religion so I never did it.

Anonymous Andy

Fun behind the scenes factoid, David Chase (the creator of The Sopranos) has gone on record stating that when he was developing the show, he always intended to avoid what were sort of the typical trappings of dramatic television writing, one of those being the use of “cliffhangers”, which Chase saw as a Cheap and lazy way to hook an audience to keep coming back. “Full Leather Jacket” ends on a cliffhanger, one of the only times the show does so, and Chase never really felt right about it, so much so that, despite the episode being well received, Chase eventually fired the writer responsible for the ending.

TJ

Someone in the comments explained what a D girl is already but also Chris briefly mentions it in the very first episode.

PastaDon

"He can suck my dick, that swings too" 😆 Such a great line, delivery and timing on point.

newhastings

There are plenty of dumb people on this show but I don’t think anyone ever truly matches up to how stupid Matt and Sean are, save for one particular character you’ll meet soon enough

Charles

Up in the club!

Twiska Brand

To answer your question. Richard = Ric(K) = Dick. The same way Edward = Ed = Ned and Margaret = Maggie = Peggy. Edit: There is also Robert = Rob = Bob.

Patrick - Excelsior

"D-Girl" (or "development girl") is industry slang for an entry-level staffer finding scripts, a term Christopher uses dismissively

fforw

Also William, Will => Bill

Life in the cave of Garanoga

Maximum Derek. Derek has been rebooted millions of times and is now a super being. If you know, you know.

The Maestro

Confirmation is just where you become a full member of the church

Hunter DeRensis

Always a great shot, that Chrissy. Took one in the gut and still got Sean in the head from sitting injured on the ground.

REDR58

That was comedian and actor Sandra Bernhard (from Severance Season 2) with Janeane Garofalo at the movie shoot. The redhead that Simone recognized from Dune (her first movie) is Alicia Witt. She is a singer and actor and was also in the Twin Peaks series (also her first series). There are houses near me that have graveyards even closer to their back yards than we see in the show. Very old graveyards… (relatively speaking). Confirmation: “The Sacrament of Confirmation is one of the three Catholic sacraments of initiation. Confirmation in the Catholic Church includes the laying on of hands, and anointing in the sign of the cross with Chrism oil. Confirmation is the third and final sacrament which completes Christian initiation for Roman Catholics, as well as eastern Catholic churches, and is also prominent in the Orthodox Church and other Mainline Christian denominations, including the Church of England, Methodist and Lutheran churches.” https://www.ocp.org/en-us/blog/entry/music/sacrament-of-confirmation Back in the 1980s, my grade school 5th grade class had our Confirmation in the 5th grade, but apparently it can happen later now. We had to memorize a bunch of prayers and prepare to answer questions asked of us by the local bishop from the Archdiocese, but the man who showed up for our Confirmation was ill and he just ran through the mass and Sacrament fairly quickly and we never answered any questions. Big Pussy’s son/AJ‘s cousin at the batting cages is wearing a Villanova (University) shirt. Villanova is a Catholic university in suburban Pennsylvania just outside Philadelphia.

Honey Hermsen (edited)

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2026-09-05 05:00 I imagine George getting up in the morning like 'alright, cool!'
2026-02-24 21:00

REDR58

Full Leather Jacket The episode title is a reference to the Kubrick movie "Full Metal Jacket." The song “Baker Street” (1978) by Gerry Rafferty is playing at the start of the episode at the Sopranos' home: https://youtu.be/Fo6aKnRnBxM?si=Wq39sLjZxE7sdZr3 Berkeley is associated with liberalism/free thinking/not at all conservative, that is probably why Tony was unhappy with Meadow choosing that school. Build a ramp up your ass and drive a Lionel up there is, I think, a reference to Lionel model railroad sets that used to be rather large and made of metal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYNdq93iwgk Richie bringing Tony the leather jacket being made of “Corinthian leather” is, of course a joke and not a real thing, referring to the old Ricardo Montalban (Khan from Star Trek II) Chrysler car commercials: https://youtu.be/iVwDsYN7QjQ?si=6K68kVElO5uhN2QK That was indeed Saundra Santiago playing both twin sisters Jeannie Cusamano (the Sopranos’ neighbor) and the lawyer Joan O'Connell. The ending of this episode seemed rather abrupt.

JBK405

Junior's real name is "Corrado". The 'Junior' is because his father was also named Corrado. "Ambulance chaser" can have a bunch of meanings, but usually it refers to a lawyer (and a cheap lawyer at that). The idea being they follow ambulances so they can track down the patient to find out if they can sue somebody. Think Lionel Hutz (Who we once saw automatically get up as an ambulance drove by and then force himself to sit back down and continue his meeting). What Christopher said to that guy in the club has never been officially revealed. According to the rumor mill ("I heard from a guy who was on set and overheard the instructions" kinda thing) what he did was pull out his gun with his lower hand while everybody looked at the hand that was pulling the other guy in by the head, and jabbed it into his belly. Then he gave a generic "get out of here" threat. So this guy backed down and left due to the gun, but it LOOKS like he could just "tell" that Christopher was serious and shouldn't be messed with. ---------- One thing I find interesting about Chris is that, as much of horrible person as he is in general, he actually was very supportive to Sean Gismonte during the break-ins. Almost anybody else would have insulted and mocked Sean for being unable to control his bladder, but Chris explained (very logically) that it's a normal reaction to the adrenaline and the situation. He commiserated instead of belittling, and doesn't even mock him behind his back later on. I honestly can't imagine Tony (or any other "leader" that we see) being that supportive like this. ---------- I'm always fascinated by the whole little story of Richie giving Tony the jacket, because I believe that for this one moment Richie was being 100% sincere. He honestly thought that this was a great gift. If you piece all the details together, Rocco Dimeo was a tough-guy that Richie beat up and took the jacket from. Since Richie is willing to talk about it at all and not hiding it in euphemisms, that probably means it was just a fistfight and not an execution. And since Richie is older than Tony, what this means is that it probably happened when Tony was in middle school or high school. So, back when he was a kid Tony probably thought the jacket was the coolest thing ever and that Richie was the toughest guy he knew and the kind of guy he wanted to be like when he grew up. And we've seen throughout this entire season that Richie still thinks of Tony as "a kid". Like his kid brother's friend. So when Richie wants to give Tony a personal, heartfelt gift, he gives him the very thing that Tony idolized back when he actually was a kid. Except Tony's not a kid anymore, and he doesn't look up to Richie anymore, so at first Tony is just confused, and then kinda annoyed at the big deal Richie is making over nothing. If a friend gave me a pair of his old pants and said "I bought these pants after I graduated college!" I'd wonder that the hell was going on. They probably mean an awful lot to my friend, but there's no emotional connect at all on my end. Tony doesn't think anything of giving away the jacket because it's just a weird pass-off. It wasn't even a deliberate slight. But to Richie, who thought he was giving Tony something of deep personal significance, it's like throwing out a family heirloom.

DCray

And Simone: "Yeahh :)"

Brandon

To be fair, there's an episode of The Simpsons that blatantly spoils it as well. So I knew about it even when I was a kid. No doubt George has seen that episode at least once.

Bill B.

Confirmation is one of the seven sacraments in the Catholic faith. It’s like a rite of passage.

Stephen Huang

George's comparison of the jacket to the shirt of Nessus wasn't far off. Remember, Richie beat up the guy he took the jacket from. It was a trophy. So giving it to Tony was like painting a target on his back saying he's next, and I think Tony saw that and thus immediately gave it away.

Jonathan Eaton

Fun Fact: The heavy set guy installing the wheelchair ramp is Vito. The actor playing Vito played Gino in the bakery scene where Christopher shot the baker in the foot. And, yes, the neighbor and her sister are both played by the same actor.

Andrew

I feel like there needs to be a running cultural reference explanation for this series for George and Simone. I don't know if it's their age or them being Canadian but it seems like they miss a lot of the references. Not their fault but it's a little frustrating that so much goes over their heads.

The Maestro

it feels weird watching this alongside Star Trek which is so optimistic and often has non violent solutions to its problems

Angzarr

Gather 'round, kids, and I will tell you the fascinating tale of my brush with fame! I was on the same flight as Sandra Bernhard once. I think it was early 2000s and maybe a NY to or from Florida flight? She was in economy with what I presume was her small child and what I thought then was her nanny but was actually probably her girlfriend. She looked like crap, like completely exhausted and stressed out. The end.

MacGuffinStuff

Swingers is fun, it's a meta meta, meta squared, choice for this show actually, because Swingers is about... No Spoilers. And actually young Vince Vaughn, back then I don't think I knew one heterosexual woman who didn't think he was hot or cute. I don't see it but whatever.

Hussain Rumaih

I'm sure someone has mentioned it but, speaking of Swingers, you need to watch it at some point! Vince Vaughn is indeed at his cutest and maybe funniest? It's a cult classic for good reason.

MacGuffinStuff

I was just trying to say something about the stuff I grew up around, and then came back to after four years in the Army, turned into an essay, suffices to say, those two knuckleheads who shot Christopher reminded me of a lot of guys I would run into around that time, not my friends but associated, and my friends, some of them, were working jobs but also always trying to make money on the side and they were all infatuated with Scarface and Goodfellas and actually I remember Boiler Room some of them would have on the DVD player when you came over to "just buy some weed" and then I'd some how get recruited into being muscle because some guy owes money and we gotta go on a mission 😂. I thought it was stupid then and it's even more hilarious looking back, they were such amateurs, luckily most of them grew up and got jobs once they got someone pregnant lol, some of them coach little league and everything now, it's cool.

Ari Ramirez

the rigott pie with pineapples

maikeru

and in Cable Guy

Simon Pegged Me

D-Girl This episode addresses Hollywood's tendency to reduce the Italian American experience to mob life and to romanticize it to the point that it becomes prescriptive behavior for most Americans. For example, in You've Got Mail, Tom Hanks tells Meg Ryan that The Godfather contains the sum of all wisdom before giving her what is now an anodyne quote that has entered the American lexicon: "It's not personal, it's business." It doesn't get more toothless than America's sweethearts, Hanks and Ryan, falling in love over mob violence bromides. When The Godfather came out, that would have been unthinkable. The violence was too real and the experience of that violence too restricted to the subculture the dominant culture would claim and domesticate. I mean, if the violence hadn't been cleansed of its threat and potential of harm, Jon Favreau and his D-Girl wouldn't dare betray Christopher, knowing what happened to the movie producer that tried to stand up to Don Corleone. And this is where I disagree with George. They were totally wrong for using Christopher’s story in the script. In journalism, you can tell someone that what you're telling them is totally off-the-record, meaning it can only be used as background. Christopher was pretty clear that the story he told them could not be repeated. It could be used to build character or the world in which the story took place—masculinity in this context is so fragile that extreme violence is needed to protect it and extreme violence is justified and respected when used to purify heterosexuality of homosexual intrusions—but it could never be repeated. And yet, Favreau & Co did. They had no fear for horse head-esque repercussions and little concern for Christopher's welfare. If they did, they would not have used information they were told specifically not to use. Even without the threat of retribution, using it was a shitty thing to do. Christopher was right in thinking there were some things he could say that he could expect to remain between the three of them. Full Leather Jacket The UC – Berkeley hate is interesting. Part of it is classism. Parents in the Sopranos’ economic and social circles view public schools as a step below private schools. Regardless of its standing in the academic community—and Berkeley's academic standing places it in the upper tier of American universities—upper middle class and upperclass elites look down their noses at state schools. Part of it for Tony, anyway, is that Berkeley's influence on leftist politics in the 60s and drug and hippie culture in the 70s is something he associates with Janice. She went to California and came back a "left coast wack-o." He does not want that for Meadow (which is funny because Meadow is the grooviest name in the family). Carmela, though, just doesn't want to see her that far away from home, that far away from her influence. And she's a college snob (see above).

DaveJ

Ah yes! Medieval Times wench! That was great

Stan the Man

It’s not being Canadian. I’m Canadian. I can’t believe some of the stuff they don’t get but I’ve watched a few reactions of this show. It’s pretty common. Most of the reactors are around my age, born in late 80s early 90s. Chances are if you are doing a reaction channel to some of the biggest shows and movies ever? You weren’t plugged into the zeitgeist

Raul Panzar

D Girl is short for Development Girl, but its a disrespectful thing to call someone. Its also an entry-level job in the Hollywood Studio system, so she took offense because Amy is higher level executive.

Angzarr

I've never seen it and I know the secret, I don't even know how. It's been 30+ years, I think the statute of limitations on spoilers has run out on that one.

Angzarr

I wish after The Sopranos they'd do Mr. Inbetween. To me it's right up there, but I think it's not well known enough.

Angzarr

1:21:08 WE ARE DEVO!

Dimitri

Amy (D-Girl) is played by Alicia Witt. You've seen her before as the creepy little girl in the 1984 Dune movie.

Adam Vialpando

Chris' last look in 207 always gets me. You can tell he kinda wants to leave this life for something better. And he has come to realize that he's almost trapped. I'm also kinda shocked you guys are going so hard on Pussy. I mean it's not like he decided one day "Yeah, I'm going to rat on all my friends". He was selling horse to support his kids and is now facing a life sentence and likely seizure of all his assets. It's a tough spot. Like let's face it, none of these are good people. I just find it weird how George calling Pussy potentially supporting the mob and heading to prison a redemption arc.

funky weapon

I can see what George means because Pussy chose a life of crime and was fine with reaping its benefits, but the moment things get hard for him, he turns on his people. Pussy is a coward and a traitor. and since we currently like Tony and his group of thugs a betrayal of them is a betrayal of the audience, too.

Angela D. Mitchell

Oh God, the pooping! Why, God, why? So much pooping! I'm with Simone -- WHO DOES THAT? Who poops in public? JFC! I swear, I had to fast forward through those finally because just no. No. No. I love Alicia Witt, so loved seeing her show up here. As a little bit of trivia -- she was a child musical prodigy and that's how David Lynch heard about her and cast her as Alia in "Dune." She's always great, but I loved her in "Mr. Holland's Opus," on "Justified," and in the rom-com "Last Holiday" with Queen Latifah (Simone, you would LOVE it if you never saw it). As others probably already commented, a "D-Girl" is an old Hollywood term for a "development girl" -- it's a sexist term for the women who worked as script readers and other thankless jobs with no credit. I felt a little (BRIEFLY) sorry for Christopher with Favreau and Witt because he thinks he's a player when he's so obviously missing their open contempt and that they're enjoying being tourists in his "exciting" life. But then he was a jerk again -- oh, man, poor Adriana. I couldn't believe he physically shoved her mother, hard, then immediately asked Adriana to marry him! I mean, he just physically put hands on her mother and she's weeping with happiness that this creep is proposing. I hate Richie but I love that he is -- like everyone else on the show -- a complex character. It was interesting seeing his rage and also slight sadness/embarrassment that his coat was given away. But oh man, I hate him. He makes Christopher look patient. And of course we had Carm showing yet again that she is every bit as corrupt as everyone else in their life. Total ice under that "sweet" exterior when she needs to be. And oh, man, the doofuses who shot Chris!! The thing I always take away from this show is how important the basic stupidity and ignorance of these characters is. They struggle to think. They're reactive. They don't know anything but violence. Which is why it's so interesting to see Chris's inept attempts at scriptwriting -- or especially Tony with Melfi because every once in awhile you can see him yearn for a different life and a different self.

Angela D. Mitchell

I think you're going a little easy on Pussy here. I feel a little sorry for him, sure, but he is living the textbook example of making his own bed and lying in it. It's also hard for me to empathize with him when he turns around and is so brutally abusive to his poor already mistreated wife. It just makes me root for his takedown that much more.

Adam Vialpando

I think it's less of them going too hard on Pussy and more George going too easy on Tony. I love Tony as a character. James Gandolfini was amazing and Tony is funny and charismatic and he is our protagonist and he is very layered. But it just felt like George was treating him too much like "the good guy". I just don't like it when people fall into the trap of trying to justify their actions. Just because Pussy sucks doesn't mean the others don't.

SANAMDEEP

i think when they get to season 3 they'll begin to go harder on tony a bit more. hopefully

Philipp Roensch

Still lagging a week behind with these, but its a great show and wonderful theatre of life. I can tell the humor lands as well as the drama.

Ceruleo

The Dick thing was because there were like ten names in medieval England. So names were shortened, Richard to Rich to Rick, then they would rhyme the name. Rich to Hitch and Rick to Dick and Hick. Also, there were influences from other cultures. Little John would be Jenkin in Norse, then Jakin, then Jack. William to Will to Bill. Robert to Rob to Bob. Edward to Ed to Ned or Ted. And on and on and on. Also, you toss in vowel names and you get the nicknames that don't make any sense.

Christophe

I mean it's not even really a cliffhanger. It's just a bit open-ended, like yeah, the next episode will obviously continue this story. A cliffhanger would have been if they had ended it right after the shootout and didn't give any confirmation whatsoever about whether Chris even made it into the hospital or what the hell happened.

Anonymous Andy

You are 100% right, I’d personally categorize this as a “pseudo” cliffhanger, but Chase still felt it wasn’t up to snuff with what the show should be trying to be, I guess. It’s really funny when you think about this compared to something like breaking bad where it feels like almost every other episode is some kind of cliffhanger lol.