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One Battle After Another (Patreon)

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TheLeftPecOfTheLord

The 20-30 minute sequence of Bob trying to recharge his phone and Sensei getting all the immigrants away from the police is one of the best sequences I think I’ve seen ever. Thrilling, hilarious, tense and incredibly well shot, I absolutely loved seeing this in IMAX last year, one of the year’s best.

newhastings

Man I still am upset about Chase Infiniti getting snubbed for best actress, especially considering how many Oscars this film (rightfully) won in part bc of how great she is

Fritz

First time I spammed the refresh button

Carl Noraas

FINALLY! Thanks so much for doing this one guys. Now I'm going to get greedy and request Magnolia, Punch Drunk Love, Phantom Thread, and Licorice Pizza...in that order. You will not regret it!

newhastings

It’s not in the reaction: but my favorite line from this film was Bob talking about how he can’t do Willa’s hair. It was inspired by something his longterm partner Maya Rudolph said regarding the loss of her mother Minnie Ripperton at such a young age, and being raised by a single white father. Also a lot of the stuff with Bob and Willa is also just kinda PTA dealing with what it means to raise his mixed-race kids in today’s world.

Mayan Luevano

Definitely a movie you can't forget, the characters, the music, the ending chase... its everything going to the movies is all about.

Brian Smith

The city you see in the bengining of the movie is sacramento, ca

newhastings

Also now that you’ve done this I really hope you can get around to Punch Drunk Love or Magnolia someday

Andrew

This movie gets better and better with repeat viewings. You can pay attention to other aspects of the film than the story. The cinematography is so good. The fact that it didn't win the Oscar for cinematography is a crime.

OddThomas

I cannot recommend Magnolia enough; it's PTA firing on all cyclinders and the cast is incredible. Punch Drunk Love, Liqorice Pizza and Phantom Thread are great too

Jamie

As a kid with a disability it's annoying when a type of walk is mocked. Evil dude here was obviously injured at some point, I had my things. Just doesn't sit right when you mock. I've had people say multiple times "did you shit yourself?!" just because I have a limp. I know everyone here is good meaning, and genuinely good people, but just a thing to think about.

Brandon

You can just tell that Lockjaws "Do you like black girls? I love 'em!" line to Bob was something PTA took from his real life. I wouldn't be surprised at all if some weirdo actually said that to PTA when he was out in public with his wife at some point.

Mike FromOz

I was not expecting this! I don't know what I was expecting, to be honest! It was really fantastic, which I shouldn't have doubted, considering how good 'Boogie Nights' and 'There will be blood' was. Wow. It's given me a lot to think about. I did have the ending spoiled for me by a comedy bit Conan O'Brien did for the Oscars, but apart from that, it was great. Great film and great reaction!

Mike FromOz

Also, funny you should mention the end of 'Boogie Nights', as that speech at the end is a homage to DeNiro's speech at the end of 'Raging Bull', which you just watched 😁

Cromulentius

I really like how, right after Perfidia's arrest, we see that the underground instantly chooses to get the fuck out of dodge. It's a neat way of showing without telling that she'd alienated herself from everybody in her life to the point that they just take it as a given that she ratted them out. Even Jim doesn't bother to make the case that she would never betray him and their daughter.

Kevin

Glad you guys enjoyed this movie as much as I do. It’s probably in my top 20 fav movies all time

Tyler Foster

Many people struggle with Perfidia. She does rat out her brothers and sisters. Something about this viewing really opened her character up for me. One thing that George was actually the first to factor in (but in a different way than I did) is that Perfidia knows that Willa is Lockjaw's daughter and not Bob's. I don't know if that makes it easier for Perfidia to leave her, but it certainly makes it harder for her to stay, knowing that she will have to confess this to Bob, and makes it harder for Perfidia to completely love her knowing that Willa is a reminder of her own mistakes, and increases the threat that Lockjaw poses to all three of them. It's true that she rats, but I also think everything you see the French 75 doing immediately after she's captured is stuff they've all discussed and planned on in the event of a key member or several key members being captured. It's true that Perfidia has to accept partial responsibility for the deaths of Junglepussy, Mae West, and Rippey at the very minimum, and possibly Laredo as well (we last see him putting a gas mask on in a burning house, so, inconclusive), but we also know that Howard Summerville talks, when they threaten his sister, and we don't feel negatively toward Howard like we do Perfidia. Why is that? In the end, the movie is a series of scenes where almost all the characters -- Bob, Willa, Perfidia, Lockjaw, Sergio, Lady Champagne, and even Avanti -- are placed under pressure. Many of them perform in ways that subvert the viewer's expectations. Avanti clearly has his hands dirty, happy to turn over Howard Summerville knowing something very bad will happen to him, and even takes Willa, before ultimately breaking. A bad guy, making a good decision. In that light, on top of whatever postpartum symptoms Perfidia is going through, and just being a person with flaws and weaknesses, I don't hold it against Perfidia that strongly, especially because in the end, she has complex feelings about it too, as illustrated in her letter. (I also think it was probably at least partially strategic; the odds of her being able to escape were basically zero without at least pretending to take the plea deal. It's true that perhaps the "right" thing to do is to go to jail, but I can also see why Perfidia would not want to do that, and why no one who knew her should've expected that she'd do that.) As mentioned in the Trivia section, this movie is credited as being "inspired by" Thomas Pynchon's Vineland, although as others have indicated in the comments, Anderson is a white guy, married to a Black woman, Maya Rudolph, and they have children together, so clearly this is also Anderson making a movie that is metaphorically about raising any kid, much less a revolutionary, in a world of Lockjaws and Christmas Adventurers, especially if you're an old pot-addled white guy who only has some idea of how things are different for a young Black woman. As I've been saying on almost every OBAA reaction I've watched, this is actually Anderson's second Pynchon adaptation. He also made a movie of Pynchon's Inherent Vice (2014), which is my favorite PTA movie. I won't be surprised if magnolia (1999) or Punch-Drunk Love (2002) come up first, but I would enthusiastically say that if you liked this movie's blend of sinister thriller intensity and laugh-out-loud comedy, you've got to watch Inherent Vice. No shade on this cast, but Vice's ensemble might be even more impressive -- and it was the first time PTA worked with Benicio Del Toro, as well. I would also not sleep on Phantom Thread (2017), which reteams PTA with Daniel Day-Lewis after TWBB, and his debut film Hard Eight (1996), which is a great little thriller. Couple other small things: The character of Junglepussy takes her name from the performer who plays her. Shayna A. McHayle goes by Junglepussy as a musical artist, and they gave her name to her character. She references the '90s bank robbery thriller Set It Off (1996), which was a big deal when it came out as it stars four Black women (Jada Pinkett-Smith, Queen Latifah, Vivica A. Fox, and Kimberly Elise). You can also see Junglepussy with Regina Hall in their previous movie together, the indie workplace comedy Support the Girls (2018). Tony Goldwyn's right-hand man, Sandy Irvine (not that I even remember them saying his name more than once) is played by legendary comedy writer and Conan O'Brien mentor Jim Downey. Some other notable places you might remember him from include his appearance in Billy Madison, delivering the iconic line: "Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul." He also went viral online a few years ago for his appearance on Conan's video podcast, where he illustrated a classic joke he loves telling about being oblivious to someone's notoriety ("Jeffrey Epstein? The New York financier?") but then also knowing too many details for the obliviousness to make sense ("With the island?"). Downey appeared with Conan in a sketch spoofing OBAA at for the end of the Oscars this year, which Conan hosted. Kevin Tighe, the oldest and most oblivious-looking man at the Christmas Adventurer's meeting, was a notable character actor in various genre pictures throughout the 1980s and 1990s. You would probably best recognize him as the guy who owns the Double Deuce and hires Patrick Swayze to come clean it up at the beginning of Road House (1989). Sensei saying "No fear! Just like Tom fucking Cruise!" isn't just a joke, it's also a little shout-out by Anderson to Cruise, who starred in magnolia.

kasar

This is the perfect movie for you guys to react to, feels right up your alley. Thanks for the great reaction to my favorite of 2025. Saw it twice in IMAX!

Thirty Year Old Mulberry Field

Don’t you dare leave out “Inherent Vice”! Its PTA’s first adaptation for a Thomas Pynchon novel and I think its even better than OBAA. Even though I get how OBAA is the clear crowd pleaser.

Ste Rawlings

I think his walk is due to the lifts in his shoes as opposed to an injury.

Ste Rawlings

Bob 100% wrote that letter at the end. It was his way of giving her closure and letting go himself. Willa knew it was from Bob right away and hugged him right after reading it.

Ste Rawlings

I knew you guys would love this film, but it wasn't until watching it along with you that I realised it might be the most Cinebinge coded film of all time.

Philipp Roensch

This is about my fourth watch, but damn this movie keeps working. You are right, it is just the best mix of stress, satifying payoff, real characters and damn good craft to make a perfect movie. Your headcanon with the Sicrario is nice, but I think all that meditation is great for Sensei's chill attitude as well. You say the christmas adventurers are a "small group", but I fear, they might have a terrible large influence in the worl. Just look at the resources even a non-member like Lockjaw is accessing to cleanup his mess. The group at the lake is also too real and scary to be ignored. I love how the true native character here comes to that realization. The family relation at its hart is also very true and I cried again. Wonderful film.

djKENTO

a thing you guys didn't seem to catch, and I don't blame you cuz it's so subtle, is the medal that Lockjaw gets at the end of the first act. The Nathan Bedford Forrest medal of honor... if that name sounds familiar that's the first grand wizard of the KKK, who Forrest Gump is named after. That's the America this movie exists in. The medal of honor is named after that dude.

Graeme McCutcheon

I struggle to find the time to get to the cinema these days. I ended up catching One Battle 3 times. Just a great movie, and so rich, with great characters. And lots of commentary on forms of revolution, whether it's the showy bombings of the French 75, Sensei's quiet work of offering refuge and community building, Comrade Josh reminding Bob about boundaries and triggers... Hell, even the Christmas Adventurers Club are working towards the world they want to see. A few random thoughts: - Benicio's reminder to breathe properly when his character is introduced is probably just as much to the audience after the frenetic introduction as it is to Willa - Regina Hall's eyes, especially in the scene where Perfidia is at the campfire after shooting the gun, when Leo delivers the line about as if she wasn't pregnant. Those eyes tell you she knows the truth and she sees the postpartum difficulties it's going to bring - The bank getaway, I loved how the actors, particularly the drivers, in a few quick shots managed to convey a balanced mix of fear with "well, this is the situation we're in now" hyperfocus - (PSA: not something I would normally mock, there are times in my past where due to economic means it would have applied to me, but the character's an arsehole so I'm making an exception) I like the wardrobe choice that Sean Penn's character only seems to have one formal outfit, a reminder he'll never belong to the Christmas Adventurers world. Also liked the commentary through wardobe on the militarisation of police forces. - Didn't love the non-binary friend being the one that gives up Willa. I read the thinking behind it was that they would be much more vulnerable in jail (and the film kept showing us that even the hardened revolutionaries caved eventually, there was always something too much for them to lose). However, there's so much going on at that point, I think it's difficult to process that subtext - I certainly didn't on first viewing - so it potentially comes across more mean-spirited than was intended Anyway, I concur with the other comments: get Magnolia slotted in soon!

Holy Squire

Pt Anderson pynchoned that sh-t out- excellent

Martin

George and Simone, it’s imperative now. Gotta see Magnolia. PTA’s most chaotic movie.

Farbod

Such a fantastic film. Saw it in VistaVision in Tarantino's theater. Great experience. I am also really glad that Sean Penn won best supporting actor Oscar. Just a generational performance.

Shibby

I got just over halfway and had to stop. What a mess.

Jacob King

Love this movie. I’ve seen it a few times now so this time I was really focused on the cars. Even before the last chase sequence the way they’re filming any driving scene is so dynamic and engaging. If a car is accelerating the camera is on another car also accelerating. The audience is being primed to feel the car moving so when we get to the chase we’re in it. Absolutely this is a western. It’s set in the west. A father searching for his daughter is classic western, the gunfighter settling down only to be dragged back into things is classic western.

Jay Johnson

George covered all that in the trivia segment at the end. (at least in the full version on the cb site)

Jay Johnson

I'd never seen this film before watching it with you guys. The highlight for me was Simone's "wheeeeee!" when Lockjaw was run off the road

Gary Brown

I got 18 minutes in and had to stop.

Camden Gear

I will pay for 20 more Patreons if you watch The Master. My favorite movie of all time. PTA directed. Joaquin Phoenix's best work by far. Phillip Seymour Hoffman is amazing. 100% will be George's new favorite movie

Gary Brown

The movie. I always watch the discussion till the end when I do watch the movie.

Gary Brown

I don't know if I replied back. But basically the movie. I always watch the after movie talk till the end. I didn't go into this blind

maikeru

and Magnolia, which is also very entertaining

Carlos

Generational villain performance by Penn. Vince McMahon with military rank.

FranciscoGios

“All 🙏hail 🙏 Saint 🙏 Nick”. I did see a small resemblance of “I am your father” scenario with Lockjaw and Willa not much but I can see the writer going on that route. I heard the script took 10 some years for this movie to be finished so yeah 👍.

HeyHeyJK

Hey, me, too! we saw it 2nd day it was so great. Sadly, we saw the matinee show and at the show right after ours, PTA and Leo and Chase all showed up so that could’ve been fun but it was a blast all the same.

HeyHeyJK

If I had it to spare, I would pay them $1000 to watch “Punch Drunk Love”. Simone, in particular, as the romcom queen that she is, deserves to see that film. This is my favorite romcom, my favorite Adam Sandler performance, and it lives in such it’s own weird little world and it’s so beautiful and romantic and I love it so, so much.

HeyHeyJK

Such a fun film and one of my absolute favorite performances by Leo. I was actually sad that Chase Infiniti didn’t get more nominations for best supporting actress, considering the fact that this is her very first film she was absolutely amazing. But I’m sure she’ll have plenty of chances in the future.

micah

this will be my 5th watch & its just front to back pure dynamite!

dys

Huh, I don't see evidence for that in the movie at all. It probably IS the kind of thing Bob would want Willa to receive from her mother, but even as much as he loves his daughter and wants to be a good dad, that's above the level of effort he can actually manage most of the time.

Adam Wetstein

this what boxer and ufc fighter are really like not the bs of Rocky

REDR58

Interesting, The was a first-time watch for me and for whatever reason I went into it not particularly enthused about it. Can't say why. Indifferent at best. It ended up being quite good, but not something I need to see again anytime soon. But I found Chase Infiniti to be the highlight for me. This is her very first movie and she has only done 11 episodes' worth of 2 recent TV series, "Presumed Innocent" (2024) and "The Testaments" (2026), plus a new movie yet to be released, so I hope to see her in lots of new things. This was an excellent film debut.

REDR58

This is because we have not de-Confederate-ized in the US as the Germans have de-Nazified. We have statues of and schools named for that band of slavers and insurgents. We have memorials to them even up here in the North, in Pennsylvania, at Gettysburg. I could go on...but this is not the place for my further feelings on the subject...

REDR58

If it were not Teyana Taylor’s (Perfidia's) voice, which Willa could not possibly recall, reading the letter, then I might agree with you. If Willa was reading the letter in her own voice in her head, I might be more swayed. Perfidia is almost certainly alive and still in Mexico (or elsewhere).

zona999

Benecio Del Toro reminds me to recommend a fantastic short series you guys have to watch-"Escape At Dannemora", based on a true story also starring Patricia Arquette in a multiple award winning performance and Paul Dano. I's only like 6 episodes and is SO so good. Directed by Ben Stiller.

REDR58

Good stuff. Anyone who was watching TV in the 1970s will probably also remember Kevin Tighe from the (1972-1977) drama "Emergency!": www.youtube.com/watch?v=egCz5qppicY

REDR58

I think the gait Lockjaw uses is almost certainly a caricature of a "military" stride and this article agrees with that premise, so take it for what you will: www.gq.com/story/were-still-thinking-about-sean-penns-weird-walk-in-one-battle-after-another

REDR58

This was her very first movie and what a debut!

REDR58

Apparently, DiCaprio is dating someone who 27 years old now! The filming locations for this movie were in various places in California and Texas. No Canadian locations this time! https://movie-locations.com/movies/o/One-Battle-After-Another.php Mae West is played by Alana Haim of the band “Haim.” She starred in “Licorice Pizza” (2021) also by Anderson. Excellent film. You can see her in the blue shirt on the right, with her sisters Danielle (center) and Este (left) in this video for “I Know Alone” which was shot during COVID-19 lockdown: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfZSgr_si4I I like how Howard Sommerville (Billy Goat) the guy with glasses who is part of an organization that rails against corporations is drinking a *Coca-Cola.* Real commitment to the cause, there. You guys need to watch the sequel to Sicario, "Sicario: Day of the Soldado" (2018). Simone, the movie uses the terms "wet and stinkies" and "wet bodies" to describe illegal Mexican immigrants. I've never heard of those terms before outside of the movie, but "wetback" is a slur used to describe immigrants who enter the US from Mexico, who have likely swum or otherwise crossed the Rio Grande River. George, "Miscegenation” is the term for “race-mixing” and a word that is generally considered offensive these days, and for good reason. Avanti Q, the tracker is driving a 2015 Dodge Charger Pursuit (police spec vehicle). You can tell it’s a police/government car because of the small wheel hubcaps and the folding spotlight on the A-Pilla (front window frame) on the driver’s side. Simone, the car you said you liked the sound it made, Bob is driving a modified 1993 Nissan Sentra SE-R with a grille and headlights from a Mexican-market Nissan "Tsuru," ("crane" in Japanese) with some aftermarket pillar gauges for the driver and a shitty (and useless) wing on the trunk lid. Tsuru cars were based on the Nissan Sentra (and you can drive one in "Forza Horizon 5," which is set in Mexico). George, these Christmas people don’t care if Avanti the tracker is a “first nations” (“Native American” in the US) or Mexican. It’s all the same to them. Not that I care what happens to him, but I’m a little surprised and disappointed that Lockjaw didn’t come back and kill those other guys. Surely he knew they were responsible for his near-killing on the road. Maybe he really was that stupid, but it seems a bit odd. Jena Malone cameoed as "Greeting Code" on the phone. She played young Ellie in the beginning of “Contact” with Jodie Foster and was also in “Donnie Darko” and “Sucker Punch.” Great reaction!

MacGuffinStuff

Holy, yeah I didn't know what to expect but it wasn't this and I loved it! It was not only amazing movie making magic, but I personally feel a deep resonance with this one, for reasons I shall expound upon, below... But first, among all Paul Thomas Anderson movies, I think it's this and "THE MASTER" for me. I felt like this is some part a generational mea culpa, I know the concept of generations started as a marketing thing but the concept exists now, and Gen X... Actually, Going back in time a little because there's continuity and I think PTA was referencing that too, absolutely. My dad was/is not a violent revolutionary, but he was a part of the Chicano Movement in the 60's and 70's, he was also a veteran by then (drafted) but he also went (writing scholarship) to Stanford and stole some really great books I found in the garage as a pissed off teenager, my pops is 81 and still that pissed off teenager. But he was also at the protest that turned into a police riot where LA Times investigative reporter Ruben Salazar (known for his critical reporting of LA police corruption, abuse of power, and racial discrimination), was "accidentally" killed by a non-lethal tear gas canister fired point blank at the temple of his skull by an LA sheriff's deputy. My dad's story is wild, including having to stop his friend from shooting a cop because, well shit, I wouldn't be commenting if he did. My point is PTA really understands the subject matter and it's the juxtaposition, this shit has been going on forever and probably will, one battle after another. But still worth it. Ey, why not?

TylerNorCal

The first act of this is terrible but after the time jump it's great

MacGuffinStuff

Sean Penn. In my brief military career I served under officers very much like Lockjaw, same hair cut but shorter BTW: (to Lieutenant Colonel Yarmie, Commanding, you annoying rat fuck limp dick hypocrite POS, Fuck you Sir and I hope Contreras found you; that's a true story, the less you know lol, fuck that guy, it would be really funny if he was a patron though 🤣), they're always marathon runners. Love a 12k, trophy wives, officers are weird they get weirder the higher the rank. I met a few cool ones, mostly lieutenants, most of them left the Army. Hated it more than I did.

MacGuffinStuff

BUFFALO SOLDIERS with Joaquin Phoenix, Ed Harris, Scott Glenn, Anna Paquin. That movie is pretty much exactly my experience in the Army. You don't even know, not what you'd expect but that's what was happening. The barracks were wild, business deals, small time hustles, gambling, drugs, fraud, Masons, y'all oneven know.... It gets worse.

Ste Rawlings

Bob spent Willa’s entire life lying to her about her mom to protect her; it’s perfectly in keeping with the rest of the film to assume he’s just continuing to do that. It was his way of giving her closure and letting go himself. It's 100% in the text of the film. Also, logistically, how did Perfidia get the letter to them? They were different people with different names in hiding, and anyone who knew who and where they were would have considered her a rat and not to be trusted with that kind of information.

Jamie

Nah, I think you need that first act as a base. Sort of gives all the madness of the second half a bit of grounding.

Jamie

"starring Patricia Arquette in a multiple award winning performance (...) and Paul Dano" Alright Quentin :P

Jamie

You missed out on an excellent film.

Terry

I sure hope yall don’t love this movie like a lot of people do. Talk about overrated movie. It is at best a great made for HBO or Cinemax movie. Shouldn’t have won best picture. In my opinion. Like what you like.

blerbaberpaterb

....why does it matter if they love the movie or not? if its okay for you to not like it, why is it a negative if they do....? thats far weirder that you WANT someone to NOT like something...

blerbaberpaterb

....it 100% is mocking a military stride and lockjaws personality....

max

'dont love this movie like a lot of people do.' Are you aware that statement means you are in the minority that don't like the movie? The movie was brilliant stop with that. Guarantee you think sinners should've won every award.

REDR58

That and his too-tight clothes remind me of a certain tryhard in the US government right now…

TylerNorCal

I didn't say it was unnecessary for the plot, it was just bad haha

Terry

Didn’t I say it was negative. How is it weird to want someone to not like something just like you? It’s having something in common like or dislike.

REDR58

George mentioned in the trivia section that "the French 75" refers to a French army artillery piece and by coincidence, "Forgotten Weapons" on YouTube has just released a video about a French (and Mexican, incidentally) "St Chamond 75mm Field Gun," so if anyone is interested in what that weapon look like, check out the video here (I have nothing to do with this or any other YouTube channel): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hYGgdUxqHM

Psyclopath

I sat through the penultimate episode of ***** *****, couldn't sit through this one. I did however LOVE The Master and Magnolia.

zona999

I have no sympathy for the mother, at all. Abandoned her child, cheated on her partner, betrayed her friends. She was a selfish POS. Also, I couldn't help being reminded of the Dude by Leo's character. Middle aged former revolutionary. lol.

zona999

Oh hell no!! I love Paul Dano!

micah

if you offer criticism without specifics your opinion is moot.

Terry

Did you read my whole comment or just take the part that you felt was “wrong” or not your same opinion.

Jamie

What you said was really weird.

dys

Terry, your only opinion was that it was overrated. I don't see what more someone could take from your "whole comment". It is not wrong to not like this film, I still haven't decided how I feel about it either, but all your "whole comment" said was that it was overrated and you hoped Cinebinge woudn't love it (why would you hope that?)

dys

I love a lot of the first act but the interaction between Perfidia and Lockjaw is just so strange to me. I'd love someone to explain why that first "getitup" scene when she encounters him in the tent isn't just silly. I understand the point that he's obsessed with her after that and into her humiliating him but I don't understand her character in that first incident.

maikeru

Lockjaw almost seems like Anderson had the ghoul Tom Homan in mind when he wrote the script

TylerNorCal

Yeah idk I found that first act to just be cartoonish, they were all caricatures imo. Once it skipped forward and we got to the father/daughter dynamic, it starting working alot better.

Tyler Foster

Malone was also in Anderson's previous Pynchon adaptation, Inherent Vice, which is probably the specific reason she pops up here.

Benjamin-Ian Astley-schaack

"Did you read my whole comment or just take the part that you felt was “wrong” or not your same opinion." Lmao this when the original post was "I hope you don't like this like a lot of people do, it's overrated because I said so" Pick a lane man

funky weapon

the first time I'd even heard of this movie was when I was doomscrolling and someone put the scene of Lockjaw and the old guy saying "semen demon." I knew I had to see it because what in the goddamn hell was Sean Penn doing with a messed up face and talking about semen demons? glad I saw it. I've seen it three times now. like TWBB, it keeps getting better every time I see it. I also love that it's about generations and this kind of optimism that even if we made mistakes along the way, our kids can make it farther than we did. the kids are alright. Sean Penn is also something magical in this. it's no surprise he won his third Oscar for it. I heard a rumor that Sean Penn had based the walk and demeanor on Vince McMahon, the disgraced wrestling promoter. if you watch a video of "the McMahon walk", you'll see Lockjaw clear as day. It's such a great, unconventional movie.

funky weapon

dys: Perfidia is attracted to chaos and mayhem. she's also got a very powerful white man (whom to her is the epitomy of the enemy) in her clutches. she wants to degrade and humiliate him, but there is something else going on there. I think even Perfidia is unsure of why she's doing what she's doing. Perfidia just acts on instinct most of the time, doing what feels right. jokes on her though because Lockjaw's into it.

MacGuffinStuff

Holy shit, just rewatching it, young Michael Peña (looks kind of the same actually) is in it too! He's Luis's primo from Ant-Man, the one who left the game to be legit, get tbose military benefits and get the fuck out of Dodge but took the game with him overseas. Marines are at Camp Pendleton, too close to home for me, seen it happen, so like me García joined the Army and made them write in his contract, European Assignment, to get away from all the bullshit, but, "No matter where you go..." He's the most relatable character for me, I wasn't the criminal, but too loyal to my crazy ass hustling wannabe Mafia friends.

MacGuffinStuff

"E-4 Mafia" btw is a real thing, it's how you get shit done while the officers are busy fucking up. E-4 is either a Corporal or in the Army usually a Specialist, experienced but just below the step to Enlisted-5, "Buck" Sergeant where you have to deal with higher ranking NCOs and Officers and that political, trying to get promoted, ass kissing Last Patrol bullshit. E-4s work under the radar, and there are a lot of them, and everywhere, and they have their ways of "tactical acquisition" that's what my squad leader called it when we stole radio cables from another unit because he forgot to bring ours.

Darren Harrison

This is the first movie I have ever walked out on in disgust at its insistence on espousing dubious political views and shoving them down our throats. I get that it’s well made, but I go to movies to be entertained.

Hope For Us Network

Man complains movie has themes. Could you tell me a movie you liked that you see as just entertainment? Ive always wondered about viewpoints like your on art 🎨

dys

Still can't comprehend what Tarantino was on when he was dissing Paul Dano.

Rav Low

It's an anti-authoritarian film. If you want to ascribe ant-authoritarian ideology to one side of the political aisle or another, then that's your prerogative.

Russell Richardson

I hate Perfidia with a passion. Much respect to the actor who played her, because she made me EMOTE. With bile and hate🤣 That revolutionary mindset def doesn’t lend itself to children/family. Remember, I’m talking about the character. As far as The actor goes, she obviously did an incredible job to elicit those emotions.

Sckmnky

Did Perfidia peg Lockjaw with a gun?!

Angela D. Mitchell

I can't stand Perfidia, and I totally get why many women of color called out her character as problematic -- she's a racist cliche. I felt so embarrassed for Teyana Taylor. She's one giant cliche from beginning to end.

Angela D. Mitchell

Honestly, I get it. I'm one of the few who hated it, and I really struggled just to finish the movie. I just found it so overpraised for what was ultimately bloated, cliched, and kind of racist, despite the terrific cast.

Angela D. Mitchell

I felt the same way. I found it so overpraised and overdone on every single front -- bloated, overacted, obvious. I was so disappointed as I've liked a lot of PTA's other work. But yikes. I still don't get what all the fuss was about here.

Angela D. Mitchell

Just chiming in as one of the few who really struggled with this film. I've liked almost all of PTA's work in the past, but yikes. For me, this just didn't work at all and was easily one of the most inexplicable and overrated Oscar winners of all time for me. Yes, it's a great cast, but everything in this movie is dialed up to 11 -- Perfidia's a racist cliche, the script is bloated, and the score is one of the most godawful, atonal, jarring movie scores I've ever heard in my life. PTA did the same thing with "Magnolia," but at least that feels operatic (mostly -- don't get me started on Julianne Moore's overacting), not tired and self-indulgent like this does to me. I know I'm in the minority but I just don't get it. I even tried to rewatch with this reaction, keeping an open mind, hoping I'd see what so many others see here, and I just think it's, like... a solid two stars. And badly in need of an edit (the movie could have lost 30+ minutes without a moment of lost context). Anyway, glad you guys liked it. I really wanted to.

Tyler Foster

FWIW, I've seen lots of women of color on both sides of the Perfidia discussion. To be clear, I am not denying that Perfidia is a major point of contention among fans and detractors of the film and/or her character; I don't consider either POV to be definitive (although the haters may be more vocal, as she does seem to make people who don't like her *mad* for any number of reasons). I also would want to hear some clear discussion as to why the character is racist. She inspires strong reactions and many people struggle to understand her motivations, but there are lots of people like that across all cultures. The character is complex and inspires lots of discussion as to her flaws and motivations, which to me strikes me as a good character; I worry that the accusations of racism are potentially an unconscious reflection of respectability politics, that they want to like her character and don't. You call her a cliche, but part of the whole discussion is how much she stands out and seems like a uniquely complex character, which seems like the opposite of a cliche.

Jpsynergy

Man I really enjoy the hell out of this movie, it gets better and better every time you see it. I'm up for you guys reacting to any of the PTA films people are mentioning, maybe Phantom Thread? :)

Angela D. Mitchell

Kevin Tighe was also great in "What's Eating Gilbert Grape." (I loved Emergency as a kid, and had a total crush on both Kevin and costar Randolph Mantooth)