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Pan's Labyrinth - Patreon Version (Patreon)

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2022-03-10 13:00:05
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No Sync Required Version: https://cinebingers.ca/b0ylEbjjM7 - For Patreon tier "Bingers on The Wall" or higher.

Movie runtime 1:59:22

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Runtime 1:59:22

Comments

Angela D. Mitchell

Lovely reaction to one of my favorite movies (but damn, it's dark). It's interesting -- I go back and forth on whether it's real or not. As far as The Hobbit movies, I personally love them, although they are absolutely bloated and several of the goblin battle scenes especially should have been cut way, way down. But I do think they're wonderful movies, and honestly, while they're flawed, I think they once again capture Tolkien's Middle-Earth beautifully, and I am always so happy to be there again. Martin Freeman is a fantastic Bilbo, I love the extra texture to Thorin's exile, I love that we get to know the dwarves as individuals (which, let's face it, we don't in the book -- the only three with any personality are Thorin, Balin, and Bombur (just that he's a glutton). And while it's unpopular, I love the addition of Tauriel (hey, we actually get a girl in a story without a single woman!) as well as the imagining of Legolas's role in that era (as well as the larger role of Thranduil). Most of all, I love the White Council and seeing what we only heard about in their taking down the Necromancer. So -- there are some of us who actually do love the Hobbit movies, so reactors assuming it's a given that everyone hates them is kind of a bummer, FYI.

Amelie W

If you believe it's all in Ofelia's imagination, then this is a mega sad story where the heroes suffer and die without any recourse and the fascists dictate as much of history as they can before democrats kill them. If you believe in the magic, then it's a story about a small girl preserving against unbelievable odds and unimaginable suffering through honesty, loyalty, cleverness and protesting against the cruelty of her peers. I think the moral of the movie is entirely dependent on your ability to control what you believe.

David RedEagle

NIce, this has been on my list for years but I just never do it. Guess its finally time.

JediLounger

I was really looking forward to your reaction to The Pale Man. It did not disappoint. You guys should also watch the other films in Del Toros Spanish fantasy/horror trilogy. Cronos (1993) and The Devil’s Backbone (2001). The movies have nothing to do with each other, and all three are good. If you have not watched The Shape of Water (2017) yet, put it on your list. The two Del Toro Hellboy movies are also fun, 2004 and 2008, but not comic book accurate at all. Also some trivia. The Pale Man and Pan were both played by the incredible Doug Jones, a motion capture wizard.

Jomero
>>79527356

And while not Del Toro, The Orphanage is also a great one to add to the list.

Githerax

George, I feel ya: I knew two men who had been friends and coworkers for *years*, and the Dutch man could *not* pronounce the double-L in his Mexican friend's name *ever*. He always said 'Castillo' as 'Cast-ill-ee-ooo' instead of as 'Cast-ee-oo'. Here's a kicker: the Dutch man's wife was Cuban. He had a native Spanish speaker in-house to teach him and he just...couldn't...do it. Of course, she was teaching him to say 'Cast-ee-jo' which confused poor Jim even more. So it's ok, George. And Simone YES put 'Labyrinth' (1986) on the list, you'll love it.

WastedPo

So glad you reacted to this. There actually is a debate on whether the fantasy elements are actually happening or not. (I think the director even said in an interview that to him, it was all real, which I wish he hadn’t done, as it takes away viewer interpretation.) I personally find it much more rewarding to believe the fantasy is *not* real. My reasoning is that it then becomes a story about self-determination, the human ability to find solace in the imagination and to cope with hardship and tragedy. I find that much more meaningful and poignant. (It’s also more interesting as a psychological profile.) However, if all the fantasy things are actually happening: Well, then all that meta stuff turns into, “She met a faun, and stuff happened to her.” Sort of a typical HARRY POTTER, “she was the chosen one, and everything was destiny.” However, if she’s conjuring these things as a coping mechanism, it’s like she’s *creating* her own reality and ultimately, her destiny. Stuff is no longer just happening *to* her.

Josh B.

You should react to his two Hellboy movies too

Einherj

Labyrinth (1986) was one of my favourite movies as a child. I watched it again as an adult and it definitely holds up. Add it to the list.

Kripke's Corner

Just as a suggestion, Simone and George, you should give some sort of rating at the end of each movie/episode. Maybe call it, "The Cinebinge Score" out of 10. I think it would be fun. I've seen a lot of other Patreon creators do this and think it would be cool for a lot of your dedicated fans to know your final score! :D Pan's Labryinth, I'd give it 8.5. :D

Githerax

The scene with the food rationing and the man trying to tell the people they're being cared for while they're being deprived reminds me of some people who are cancelling school lunches. Monsters.

Kripke's Corner
>>79532319

I 2nd that! Hellboy 1 and 2 were AWESOME! And Simone should know, Hellboy owns MANY cats! :D

Roby J

The Shape of Water should absolutely be on your list after watching this. Love to see more Guillermo del Toro movies. Crimson Peak is another that you may enjoy, but it leans a bit more into the horror genre.

Tomas

I very much agree with your comments about del Toro and The Hobbit; it would have been amazing. The Hobbit movies are bad because the story is basically a fairy tale more than anything else; it doesn't go well as an over-the-top 3 movie epic in the same spirit as LotR, and I think del Toro could have captured that fairy tale spirit perfectly. It's really too bad they went in the direction they did.

Drew

Yeah, del Toro said it's open to interpretation but that *he* intended the magic to be real. Two clues he put in: her door was locked and the only way she could get out was magic chalk, and the labyrinth opened for her and closed back before Captain Vidal got there.

WastedPo
>>79530017

Labyrinth is great. But they should go into it knowing that it is in no way similar to Pan's Labyrinth. (I don't want them to be disappointed.) It's also so 80's it hurts - almost like the Stranger Things people made it as a nostalgia trip to represent the 80's: Bowie's tights and big hair. The great music. (It's basically a musical, which no one ever mentions.) Literal Muppets. And George Lucas's name attached as producer.

MacGuffinStuff

Don't come at me but I choose to believe the magic was real (I mean in the story, but then again I've seen a few things in my time I have never been able to explain haha). In a lot of fairy lore, they will remain unseen to most, particularly grown up type, people (I know, convenient, right?). They allude to that idea of course, I forget the phrasing but something about having the eyes to see them. I fell into an internet hole a few years ago about fairies etc., still kind of fascinating to me, the old pagan traditions and lore about giants and witches and little folk and all that. And one theme that seems pretty common is that the fae folk aren't really good OR evil per say, but they are tricksters, and guardians of wild places. For the most part I think people back in the day just ate the wrong mushrooms (or the right ones lol) and then wandered into the woods and encountered animals and insects, who are also not exactly good or evil per say, but can in a way be made friends or enemies. But a little part of me still thinks, maybe?? Also, yes please, more Del Toro, I even like Pacific Rim, even though l absolutely can't stand Charlie Hunam's acting, and I haven't yet seen The Shape of Water but I heard it's great.

Richard B.

I vote for more del Toro movies Blade 2, Hellboy, Hellboy 2 and Pacific Rim :)

geddydisciple

Keep in mind that at this point in time people in Spain were starving to death so It's pretty understandable that a young child would be seduced by that beautiful fresh fruit despite the warnings not to eat it.

Mark Harrell

You should watch original Labyrinth with Jennifer Connelly and David Bowie