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Tombstone - Patreon Version (Patreon)

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2022-09-04 12:00:04
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No Sync Required Version: https://cinebingers.ca/D60DkxIeP1 - For Patreon tier "Bingers on The Wall" or higher.

Movie runtime: 2:09:38

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Hexon66

Good, not great, movie in my opinion. The late 80s, early 90s had some popcorn westerns like this. Back from the "revisionist" cinema in the 60s and 70s, to uncomplicated white hat/black hat characters, (at least in the figuratively narrative sense). For rawer, more complex (and, imo, better) westerns, Sam Peckinpah is where to look, and the Sergio Leone films to a lesser extent. You think these guys looked badass in the walking scene? Wait to you see "The Wild Bunch", where William Holden, Ernest Borgnine, Warren Oates and Ben Johnson take that walk to the final scene in Agua Verde. You can draw a direct line to many directors like John Woo and Tarantino, from that finale.

Wayne Kryka

You must see THE SEARCHERS, John Wayne’s Best movie. A young Harry Carey Jr. had a prominent role in it. In Tombstone, he was the old sheriff who was gunned down

Wayne Kryka

Buck Taylor was a regular on the classic western GUNSMOKE

Wayne Kryka

Charlton Heston was the star of BEN HUR, THE TEN COMMANDMENTS, and THE PLANET OF THE APES

pinkdino99

Easily the most stacked cast in any movie. Yup that was Billy Bob Thornton and Billy Zane. Jason Priestly (bullied Billy) was Beverley Hills 90210 and Terry Quinn (the town Marshall?) was from Lost. Ike was played Stephen Lang who was the "bad guy" in Avatar. Powers Booth was in Sin City and has that amazing gravelly voice. Michael Biehn deserves kudos for his Ringo too. But yeah... this is Val Kilmer's film.

Ben

Saw this when I was like 8 years old at my great uncle's lake house after everybody was in bed lol. Man, Val Kilmer gave me such Johnny Depp vibes with his character. Voice, delivery, mannerisms, persona. No way this movie would be as iconic as it is without Doc Holliday played by Val. Fun watch. I know what my outfit is for Halloween this year.

redddfer44

2:30 the lightbulbs! Speaking of Kurt Russell, I used to get him confused with Patrick Swayze. Wyatt Earp and Doc Holliday are on the level of Jesse James and Billy the Kid of actual wild west legends. Gotta watch this later when I get my hands on the movie. I haven't seen it since the 90s.

Odd Thomas

I'm currently watching 1883 and if you like westerns it's an absolute must see. The writing, acting & cinematography are all first class.

Odd Thomas

Hostiles & 3:10 To Yuma are two brilliant westerns (oddly both star Christian Bale)

Rob Parry

Great choice. Unforgiven from 1992 should be added to the list if not already. One of the best westerns ever made.

Einherj

Add Deadwood (2004 - 2006) to the list. Best western series ever made.

Jameson Yates

Doc Holliday looked at his feet right before he died because he always swore he'd die with his boots on, i.e. not in bed of his illness. That's why he looks at his naked feet and says "Well, I'll be damned."

Tenn Seven

You guys missed the tombstone when they first ride into Tombstone: Here lies Lester Moore. Four slugs from a .44. No Les, no more.

Matthew Congdon

It was common for men like Doc, gamblers, pistoleers, etc to die "with their boots on". He was amused he lived long enough to die with his boots off.

JayF

This is one of my favorite movies for several reasons but the main one is that it is a great depiction of male friendship between Wyatt and Doc. Something that Hollywood seems to struggle with without including too much silliness or giving the friendship a slight bromance vibe (like Superbad for instance). I've probably seen the movie 100 times by now and Wyatt's, "Thanks for always being there, Doc" is instant tears for me to this day. One thing you are both too young to have noticed is that the older rancher who let them stay the night towards the end so Doc could rest was played by Charlton Heston. He was in several westerns when he was younger amongst many other movies and you'll also run into him if you ever get to the original Planet of the Apes. Oh and the confusion about the badges. Yes the cowboys were wearing them towards the end. Beehan, the county sheriff, was on their side. They actually note it in the movie but I think you two were talking when they did. The mayor of the town was on the Earp's side. US Marshals are federal. So when Wyatt puts on that badge he's gone higher up in authority. Tombstone and a movie called Wyatt Earp came out within a year of each other. Both are good but Tombstone is less historically accurate. That makes it the better movie IMO because it's more fun. Wyatt Earp is worth a watch though. It stars Kevin Costner and Dennis Quaid. Other names you may recognize from it are Bill Pullman, Gene Hackman, and Mark Harmon. The Oscars that year...yeaaah. They were up against some small time movies like Jurassic Park, Schindler's List, The Fugitive, Philadelphia, and such. Tombstone was nominated for two MTV movie awards. That's it.

Tenn Seven

One thing I hate about this movie is how the entire family blames Wyatt for everything that happens when he was the one who told his brothers not to get involved, and they didn't listen.

Jack Burton

You guys thought one of the Cowboy gang was Bill Paxton? None of them even look like him.

GBmain
>>90971154

Don't think I've seen hostiles.. thanks for the recommendation

Thomas Yanez

Y'all did a great job of picking out so many of the young-faced actors.

Haye Zeus

Great reaction guys. I have always wanted to see this movie and it lives up to the hype. A very fun movie. More westerns would also be fun. Of course I will aways push my favorite The Good The Bad and The Ugly. If you’re a fan of Tarantino then might as well watch the films that he stea…er I mean, pays homages to in his movies.

Robert H

Another fun fact... That was Sly's brother Frank Stallone playing Ed Bailey the guy Doc stabs at the table in his intro scene. :p

Jayson Phillips

You should watch Young Guns 1 and 2 those are like this

JayF
>>90984781

To be fair it was just George that thought that.

JayF

So many good Westerns have been mentioned in these comments and I recommend them all. I haven't seen two neo-Westerns mentioned yet. I know they have been requested before but Wind River and Hell or High Water are very good movies you should consider.

Jayson Phillips

The shoot out at the OK corral is famous battle between the Earps and Clantons in Tombstone Arizona. You can visit there today. They went there to disarm them cause they made it illegal to open carry

Jayson Phillips

Also the term Huckleberry referred to the Huckles (handles) on a coffin and the bearer that carried them, Huckle Bearer. now we call them Pallbearers

Jayson Phillips

Doc always thought he would die with his boots on.

Kathy Ice
>>90998186

Yeah, the Gunfight at the OK Corral was a huge deal for a long time. It shows up in lots of western movies and is referenced a lot in pop culture. It even made it into an episode of the original Star Trek!

Andrew T

I haven't seen this since it was in theaters. Watching it again with 2022 eyes, I was surprised at the number of recognizable actors.

Andrew T
>>91000290

I second this. When I saw that Cinebinge was reacting to Tombstone, I thought, "cool, I kinda wanna see a movie with Emilio Estevez." I realized I mixed up Tombstone with Young Guns.

E.P.B.F.
>>90980989

Yeah, Tombstone is the much more entertaining movie compared to Wyatt Earp, and the difference in historical accuracy between the two is actually fairly minor given that: a) it has a much narrower narrative focus on the Earp's feud with the Cowboys gang and subsequent vendetta ride compared to Kasdan's biopic and b) there's a lot of details where the contemporary accounts are either disagreeing with one another or are plain missing so there's no definitive truth only personal preference in dueling claims. Both get an A+ for effort in trying to be authentic (by Hollywood standards) though. As for the Marshal vs Sheriff thing my my understanding is that it's not really a matter of one conferring greater authority than the other, but rather a question of jurisdiction and who they worked for. Sheriffs were elected by the citizens and charged with keeping the law within their county while Marshals were appointed by and, among other things, executed arrest warrants for a specific district court. So depending on the location and whether there was a warrant from judge X for the arrest of person Y or not a Sheriff could 'outrank' a Marshal or vice versa. This jurisdiction poker is alluded to in the scene when Curly Bill goes on his drunken shooting spree and Sheriff Beehan and Marshal White (RIP) start bickering about which one of them has to go out and try to disarm him. The movie also does a pretty good job hinting at some of the complex partisan politics and economic alliances that were going on in the town of Tombstone and Cochise county at that time. A lot of the bloody conflict depicted was actually driven by candidates and their backers competing for various local elective offices.

KnittingHaven

Cowboy coats are called dusters, they are made to be worn while riding horseback with a slit up the back. I thought Val Kilmer's accent was pretty good actually, more southeastern like South Carolina, maybe a bit of an upper class affectation, but that kind of goes with his character. Wyatt had been met by a US Marshall when he first got off the train at the beginning of the movie - I'm sure it wasn't difficult for him to contact them and get sworn in as a US Marshall later on in the movie.

E.P.B.F.

With regards to Val Kilmer's accent in the movie there's actually video clip of a Comic Con panel where he describes how he prepared for the role starting by contacting a leading dialect coach to help him reconstruct how a mid 19th century southerner from Georgia with Holidays upper class background would have sounded. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSAGIG-8Fww

MacGuffinStuff

The director told costume design that he wanted the Earps to look like undertakers when they walked through town before the shootout. Not the wrestler, but that works too. Have to co-sign some of the other suggestions, "Young Guns" was kind of billed as a brat pack Western back in the day, but it was actually pretty cool and still holds up in my opinion, the sequel as well. "Hostiles" I saw just recently and it was great. But, all-time favorite Western on my list, even beating Tombstone, AND my all-time favorite Clint Eastwood movie, is of course "Unforgiven". It's maybe a little weird to recommend that one because I see it as the perfect cap to Eastwood's long career in Westerns. I say weird because when I first saw it I had already seen his earlier movies like "The Outlaw Josey Wales" and some of the so-called Spaghetti Westerns, so without that context it'll be a little different experience I think, but it's still an amazing movie either way. Also, for a series, "Deadwood" was f*cking awesome, one of my favorite shows ever, and up there with other short-lived but amazing HBO shows like "Rome" and "True Detective" (Season 1), it's only a couple seasons, followed by a movie.

Logan Kerlee

First time for me, ever watching that movie! I enjoyed what I saw but I was distracted a fair bit throughout. I may give it a rewatch sometime down the road. Did enjoy both of your takes on it though. :)

Eddy V Ruiz II

If we are talking Westerns... Silverado -young Kevin Costner and Quigley Down Under

Chase Lonnergan

As for it being "real"? About 80% real. The river fight went down exactly like that. So did the OK Corral. And quite a few other things. The real Wyatt Earp wasn't nearly as squeaky clean as his legend presents him to be, but that was because he and Josephine controlled almost everything said about him. He was a lot more of the "pimp" that Ike called him than anything else. And Johnny Ringo actually committed suicide, he wasn't killed by Doc Holliday. Holliday was the character that got the closest to being historically accurate. Although they never mention it, the "Doc" nickname wasn't so much a nickname as it was a title. He had a medical Doctorate, in dentistry.

S

I second, third, fourth, etc. Young Guns and Young Guns II. Billy the Kid storyline. Tombstone is one of my all time fav movies and everyone who watches is always blown away by Kilmer’s performance. You’ll never forget that performance. But I think you guys would love Young Guns I and II.

Samuel Vincent
>>91013464

I second Quigley Down Under. If you liked Tombstone you will love Quigley. Please put that one on your list.

Samuel Vincent

I believe the part at Doc Holiday's death scene where he is looking at his feet, is his surprise that he was dying with his boots off. It's an old saying "Dying with your boots on", meant that you wouldn't die in bed, He never expected to die like that.

E.P.B.F.
>>91026369

I think it being a call back to Bill Paxton's character talking about (and later denying) the dying seeing a light as they pass. There was no prior mention 'about dying with your boots' in the movie, or at least none that i noticed, so it'd be a payoff without a setup.

Torstein Skurve

Every so often I just feel like telling you how much I appreciate the effort you guys put into this! I look forward to every new release🙂

David Guin

A "lunger" is someone who is suffering a chronic disease of the lungs (tuberculosis, lung cancer, etc.

WayneC

I thought there would have been a bit more recognition when the OK Corral was mentioned. In any case, here is a review of the film's historical accuracy by a channel call History Buffs https://youtu.be/QvvNRx0riOE . Worth a watch.

AC10

They really need to see Twister.

Herbert Ragan

A highly romanticized version of events. But they got a lot right. The bitch slap scene and dragging the guy out by the ear. The way Curly Bill was killed with Wyatt yelling NOOOO! The whole walk towards the gunfight, including Behien telling them he disarmed the cowboys when he hadn’t. They moved up Virgil and Morgan’s shooting which happened months apart, and the red sashes was a total fabrication, but this is my favorite version of the events.

F Yale

I like "Wyatt Earp" better. Yeah, the one with Kevin Costner :P It has a very good cast too

redddfer44

"Bram Stoker's Dracula" won for costume design that year and let me tell you, it deserved the win. Some Western recommendations: High Noon (1952) The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance (1962) Sergio Leone's dollar trilogy: A Fistful of Dollars; For a Few Dollars More; The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly (They're not connected, so any order is cool) Once Upon a Time in the West (just watch 12 Angry Men first) The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford (2007) Leone's films are probably the safest bet, visibility-wise. They made Clint Eastwood a star, for good reason.