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The Rock - Patreon Version (Patreon)

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2023-04-09 12:00:02
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No Sync Required Version: https://cinebingers.ca/S5gPm4cqb9 - For Patreon tier "Bingers on The Wall" or higher.

Movie runtime: 2:16:29

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The Rock - Patreon Version

Comments

Ricardo Alanis

I LOVE this movie. One of my favorite action flicks. Looking forward to the reaction!

Mati D.

Now THIS is a classic, great movie.

Jay Davis

Odd... I can't smell anything cooking.

JediLounger

I saw this in the theater when it came out. Not my first R rated movie, that was Speed. It was a wild experience to be sure. You guys should absolutely watch the Bad Boys movies. The first one (1995) is great, and arguably the best movie Bay has made due to his restraint, it’s around 2 hours. The second movie (2003) is hilariously awesome and will make a great reaction, but it is very goofy. I never got around to watching the new one (2020) but I would be up to watching it with you guys. A fourth movie is in preproduction.

D. Kennedy
>>105975982

That's a great point Bad Boys is considered one of Bay's best films because he used restraint. He rarely does that ever. The 3rd one was pretty good too actually

Odd Thomas

Michael Bay's best film imo and one of my top 3 action movies of the 90s (The Matrix and Face/Off complete the line up). Con-Air is fun but it's my least favourite of the Cage action man trilogy. For more Rock action there's a great Clint Eastwood movie called Escape from Alcatraz. With this and Dirty Harry mentioned in Zodiac, maybe a Clint Eastwood run is on the cards? In The Line of Fire and A Perfect World are my two faves.

Odd Thomas

Obligatory JEEPERS CREEPERS request! You know you want to!

Tenn Seven

I swear, Michael Biehn gets killed in every movie.

Odd Thomas

For outrageous (real) explosions I would recommend Blown Away, Demolition Man and Cutthroat Island. I won't ruin WHAT gets blown up, but it's BIG.

Wirenfeldt Jr

The rope he got from the bathroom at the Fairmont Penthouse was the retractable clothes line, presumably so you could hang clothes up to dry over the bathtub..

JediLounger

So you guys kept asking about why the government would not pay the money. The policy of the U.S. Government is to not give in to terrorists under any circumstance, or that’s the official policy at least, and it’s what this movie is based on. Now I doubt very much that this policy has held every time (I am not interested in arguments or any political nonsense anyone replying to this, I will not look at your comments). I am just explaining the facts of the movie.

Adam Barry
>>105979889

Yeah, I believe this policy stems from all the hijackings of aircraft in the 50s, 60s and 70s, where they would generally pay the ransom demands to try and end things peacefully. However, they would still often end with crashed planes or shootouts, with significant loss of life, and the successful payouts just encouraged more hijackings to take place.

Paul G

The Rock is a classic! George you're not alone with your theory, there are all sorts of forums dedicated to the idea that John Mason and James Bond are the same person! Bay has a lot of haters but as long as you don’t take his films too seriously they can be super entertaining. Most of them follow the similar pattern of nonstop action mixed with a healthy dose of comedy. I agree that Bad Boys is a must watch along with Bad Boys II (I personally like the second one more). Another recommended movie is the Untouchables (1987) also starring Sean Connery. One of the all time great crime/gangster movies. You also mentioned Gone in 60 Seconds - it's terrible but awesome at the same time, I would totally love a reaction to that one!

D Anthony

As some people have mentioned, the United States has a hard stance on their policy to not negotiate with terrorists. If word got out that the U.S. capitulated to the demands of a group of terrorists, it would be open season for other terrorists to continually extort the government.

Daniel Popp
>>105985550

Exactly this. It could also lead to a lot more death in the long term. In situations like this, our government has to treat people like simple numbers and factors. If the government gave in to the general, other terrorists would attempt similar things at a much higher rate than they did at that time. I'm sure there are situations where the government would have to accept reality (one fictional example would be Bane with the nuke in The Dark Knight Rises), but in most situations, if you have an option to save tens or hundreds of thousands to millions and only lose 81 hostages, then there is no choice. You sacrifice the 81 for the greater good and to save the larger number of people. If there is another option like what was depicted in this film with the SEAL team, then they'll more than likely try it. But when it comes down to 81 lost compared to millions lost, you sacrifice the 81. It's cold blooded as hell, but it has to be done.

Odd Thomas

Agreed on the great antagonist; he's a good guy doing dodgy things for a good reason. He was bluffing with the rockets and hostages, he didn't actually want to hurt anyone. It was the gung-ho mercenaries who escalated things.

Hamesque

The full name of this movie is actually 'The Criterion Collection Presents: The Rock'

Persnickity

That whole operation had to cost a bunch of money too. Seal team, tactical command base, experimental fire bombs. Silly but this movie is still great

Thomas Yanez

Regarding your comment that Mason is really James Bond - there is a lot of fan theory crafting that goes deeper into that, using Bond movie release dates and info referenced from both this movie and some Bond films. Just google "john mason james bond" and you can jump right down that rabbit hole.

Skinny_Obelix

I miss John Spencer, makes me want to rewatch The West Wing again.

DarwinGrayman

The reason why they don't pay is because that would send a message to the world that kidnapping Americans will get you payed

redddfer44

Simone: "I'm so bad with names." Also Simone: "Hey, that's Characteractor McChararacteractorface from an obbscure romcom that I love and refuse to name. And that's Chiwetel Ejiofor!"

BND

If you guys want to watch a crazy Nic Cage movie I suggest Face/Off. Plus John Woo directed so you know it's off the walls!

FranciscoGios

I agreed with both of you about Gen. Hummel’s last regret about the mission and Stanley Godspeed/Mason’s relationship at the end. Also the person who ever punched Simone in the stomach in her early age, look out for this Jedi. George nice to see you have your voice back.

Alan Kobb

The contraption in the shower is simply a clothes line. You'll see them if some hotels. There would be a little hook on the opposite side of the shower, and when you need it, you just pull out the line and hook it to the hook and hang your wet clothes on it. When you are done, just unhook the other side and the line retracts. As for why they don't pay, it's a simple matter that you don't negotiate with terrorists. It's $100M this week, then next week, someone else takes hostages or has a weapon and wants $500M, and you've already shown that you are willing to pay. Then comes the next time, and the next.

David Crabtree

It's actually quite simple why they don't pay the $100 million ransom, it would then set a precedent and it would be open season for terrorists to do the same thing.

Timothy Burrows

I love at the end when Goodspeed tells Paxton that Mason vaporized he can tell he is lying but then he repeats it to Womack.

david moreland

Speaking of great Bay movies The Island is oft overlooked but is a great movie.

Joe D. MacGuffinstuff

The US government's policy is to never negotiate with terrorists. The idea is that if they give in once they'll have to do it again and again. And they wanted to keep the whole situation covered up because it could potentially expose all those illegal black ops. Considering some of the moral dilemmas they deal with in this movie made me think of Steven Spielberg's "Munich", I recommend it for the list. And Sean Connery being a tough, grey haired son of a bitch reminds me to suggest "The Untouchables", a must see. You know I'm kinda coming around on Michael Bay movies, I mean I still loathe "Pearl Harbor", but this and "Armageddon" are still totally watchable after all these years. I wouldn't mind a "Bad Boys" reaction, which I've never seen, if for no other reason than getting more of the references in "Hot Fuzz".

Greymond

Going to repeat a couple opinions I've seen in the comments. If you want more Cage, then Con-Air. It's just plain ole dumb-fun 90s action. If you want more Connery, then The Untouchables is another good one, which also stars Costner, De Niro and Andy Garcia. Also, definitely do Bad Boys. Forget the poll results. Watch Bad Boys.

redddfer44

Hollywood history buffs might be interested in reading up on Don Simpson that the movie is dedicated to. He co-produced with Jerry Bruckheimer and was as, uh, "colorful" a figure as they get.

Starromania72

A few suggestions based off rewatching this movie: For more Ed Harris as intimidating, military man, there's WW2-set Enemy at the Gates. For some insane, offbeat Nic Cage drama, there's the 1999 Scorsese flick Bringing out the Dead, with Cage as a strung-out paramedic. For more of Cage's fellow lab rat Todd Luiso arguing about records and relationships (albeit with John Cusack), there's High Fidelity from 2000, but the huge soundtrack probably makes it a copyright minefield.

Thijs van Drenth

Great reaction to this movie and I am glad you two enjoyed it so much. It was on my list of possible recommendations to make to Cinebinge, but I am not surprised others already suggested it. Sean Connery, Nicolas Cage and Ed Harris do an amazing job in this movie in my opinion and the music is awesome. Very entertaining, looking forward to the next time Cinebinge watches one of my favorite movies!

pedantech

For another great movie with Ed Harris, consider watching The Abyss. Personally, I'd recommend the extended edition, but I know some people don't like the extra plot at the end.

Opti_Frog
>>106072807

The Abyss was my favourite movie for many years, but you're right: i very much dislike the alternative ending in the extended edition. Theatrical is the way to go.

Logan Kerlee

I'm so happy that you both really enjoyed this one! This one was a childhood fave of mine for sure. As a kid I didn't fully understand everything but I knew who the bad guys were and what they were trying to do. As a kid I never saw Ed Harris' character as the most reasonable villain. I just saw them all as bad guys. I'm happy that I had the opportunity to re-watch this as an adult though! Very entertaining and fun/exciting movie! I may've known everything that was coming but it was still fun and worth watching. :)

Logan Kerlee
>>106009238

While this is true, it isn't likely for terrorists to be able to acquire weapons like this again in the future. $100,000,000 may've been a ton of money in 1996 but I'm pretty sure that the ransom would've been paid were something like this to actually happen.

Tanx

lol just noticed for the first time, after seeing this movie about a dozen times, that the burner that Mason has to roll through to let them into the prison is made by Bay Foundry hehe. why else would it have extra fire burst that have no clear purpose other than to look cool? because it's a Bay Production.

Chase Schleich

Face/Off should be your next Nic Cage film. It's a John Woo film, but it's like Michael Bay was whispering in his ear. The science makes zero sense, much like Armageddon, but that's one of the things that make the movie so fun lol.

redddfer44
>>106084831

I was wondering why Mason had to go through with it back in the day, since it seemed to take him to the other side to open the door which would've been a lot easier :D Unless the dude has a serious bent for risk taking.

Justin Leone
>>106084831

Maybe when it was a fully staffed prison, going through that door wasn't an option, due to it being guarded, or triggering an alarm or something.

Justin Leone

For reference, a single F-35 fighter jet costs about 80 million. Accounting for inflation, that would have been about 160 million in 1996. To put it another way, in 1996, the US military budget was about 400 billion. 100 million is what we spend on the military in about 2.2 hours. It's also about 30 cents per American taxpayer. There is no good reason for them to not just pay up. The amount being demanded would probably cost less than the military operations undertaken to stop them.

Damon Mackay

I've wanted to know what that string in the bathroom was since I first saw the rock 20 years ago. I still have no idea

Odd Thomas

Pretty sure the cord in the shower is to tie up the shower curtain after you're done.

Cregg Riley

13 Hours is a good movie too.

Peter Engle

U.S. policy is never to negotiate with terrorists. Otherwise it would be open season on hostage and ransom scenarios.

Josh B
>>106381784

There is absolutely a good reason. They do not negotiate with terrorists, period. As soon as they do, it would be open season. It's nothing to do with the quantity of money.

Shreddy

The only Michael Bay movie I like

David Lonewolf Wright

This is probably my favorite Michael Bay movie. The antagonist who is the reluctant "villain" because he couldn't see any other way is great. Womack was necessary for end stakes for Mason, yeah he was retreading same lines, but it was showing his determination to make Mason disappear into a blackhole once again... but he didn't count on the friends made along the way.

BubblyRainbows
>>106402231

This is an ancient comment, so I have no idea if you're even still around for this reply, but in case you're still curious, it's a clothesline. It stretches across the bathtub and hooks up on the opposite side. It was typically used to hang delicates that can't be put in a dryer. They hang over the tub so that any droplets from the wet clothes aren't making a mess on a floor or something.