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The Wire 311-312 (Patreon)

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Jay Davis

The Wire season 4 when? 8-)

Haye Zeus

When is season 4….oh, cool. Yay I excites

JediLounger

I knew you guys would keep rolling. While the entire show is great, the power of season 3 and 4 cannot be denied.

Jay

Are we going straight to season 4? Won't be watching until later but these comments have me excited.

Jeff K
>>108153161

Yep, first thing George says in the video is that they're continuing on next week.

Ginger

But when are you going to watch The Wire Season 3?!?

James Boyd

In the original script Omar was supposed to urinate on Stringer's corpse.

Astraeos

Well now that we've reached this point, I just wanna say that you guys are awesome for watching this show. I have been thoroughly enjoying this journey with you guys, especially with how much you guys have been absolutely loving the show. Somehow, surprisingly, this conclusion to Season 3 is only really the start. Season 4 is everybody's "Golden" Season, and there is absolutely a reason for that, and you guys will find out. I'm super, super excited to see the last two seasons and finish the journey

Jeff K

A detail that I have *always* loved: when staring down the barrel - literally for Stringer - both Bell and Bunny face their fate with the line “Get on with it motherfucker.” Such great, subtle writing to have them mirror each other that way.

Ken Quick

On original broadcast, I missed the beginning of ep. 11 for some reason, but I was taping it (yes, this series is old enough that VHS was still relevant.) After doing something else for the rest of the hour and letting it record, I immediately turned on the TV and started rewinding the tape. Meanwhile, the promo for the season finale came on, which opened with the voiceover: "Stringer Bell... is dead." FFFFFUUUUUCK! So I got to watch the penultimate ep with that atomic-level spoiler lodged firmly in my noggin.

Carla Davis

I'm not sure why no one else has said this yet but the both of you are way of based with some of your conclusions and assumptions. It's weird because it's all being explained but you both have misunderstood some very important things. Avon didn't pay anyone to kill Stringer and I'm not sure why you both think that. As far as Avon being in "trouble" for playing a part in Stringers murder... in trouble with who and why? Avon is in charge abs he can have anybody he wants killed including Stringer. It just so happens that it plays into the war he has with Marlo but he told slim charles it wasn't Marlo. McNulty left the dinner with the lobbyist lady because he realized that he was being used. You were also of bases with the money and the reason why Avon gave that money to Dennis. Yall should rewatch these last 2 episodes for yourselves because it was some major plot lines that you guys seemed to get wrong. Good try try though. 😆

Generators
>>108158275

when did they say Avon paid someone to get Stringer killed? you sure you didnt just watch the reaction wrong and misunderstood? cause im pretty sure they said they think Avon gave Stringers location and time to Omar and that was it. which is why Avon asked Omar on that roof top. the rest of what you described are all base on interpretation no one so far has actually said out loud why Dennis received money, its just interpretations. it really just sounds more like youre looking for things to gripe about and assumes your interpretation is the right one and everyone else is wrong.

Joel

"We went to war, now there aint no going back. If it's a lie, we fight on that lie." Great line that hit twice as hard at the time as the Iraq war dragged on. Which reminds me! Generation Kill is a much watch mini-series for after The Wire. Made by the same people.

Paul T Hewes

season 4 is the best season of the Wire, which makes it the best season of the best TV show ever made.

Kevin Hoffmann

Anybody else keep losing sync on the finale? First ep was fine, but the timecodes weren't really lining up and I kept having to readjust a couple seconds.

Jeff K
>>108159549

And featuring Ziggy as one of the lead characters (along with the always great, and unfairly handsome Alexander Skarsgard).

Moon Logic

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!!!!!! thank you, guys!

Jay
>>108155389

Season 5 is the only one I haven't said is my favourite at some point. But pretty much everyone I know and almost everyone involved with the show says season 4 is the best. I'm over the moon we're going straight into it.

SlaverStudios

The next season is the absolute apex of the show and television in general. And the last season is out of control in the best way. You simply have to press on. I know maybe you'll take a week or two off, but you seriously should keep going as soon as you're both comfortable. It's a rollercoaster ride that just hit the high point and it's a long way down!

SlaverStudios
>>108151977

Easily the strongest seasons. But I feel like Season 5 is underrated. People like to mock it for ONE storyline that's a bit wonky, but the rest of it is on par with the last two seasons. Especially the new characters.

GDC

The Wire is a show examining the collapse of American institutions/systems and how they’ve failed the citizenry. If Season One was about the futility of the drug war and how it persists no matter what, and Season Two was about the origins of the drug trade, both how drugs get here and the destruction of the working middle class that moved people to sell them, David Simon said that Season Three answers the question “Well what if someone tried to reform the systems instead?” Bunny and Stringer both spent the season trying to reform their respective systems into something better, and both suffered the same fate; swift and thorough rebuke, right down to them having the same last words (Get on with it, motherfucker). The system is a leviathan, it cannot be reformed and it will destroy you if you try.

John Richards

It's not as apparent 20 years later, but the Barksdale-Stanfield war was David Simon's commentary on the Iraq War, and military adventurism in general. The title of the last episode was "Mission Accomplished" - from a huge banner hung on an aircraft carrier for a George W Bush photo op.

Jeff K
>>108165520

Yep. The “Mission Accomplished” plus Slim saying “we fight on that lie,” aka Iraq’s supposed WMDs and involvement in 9/11, neither of which were true but damned if we didn’t fight on those lies.

John Richards

Something that is often overlooked - Carcetti's rousing speech sounds impressive, but it's actually a call to continue the same policies and the useless "war on drugs". He's just calling for more of the same.

John Richards

a couple of Baltimore/Wire reality tidbits: The 2 smaller kids that faced the corner kids in Cutty's gym were from an actual boxing gym in B-more, and by all accounts they did a thorough job of pounding on the actors they were sparring with. The man playing the head of the city health department was Kurt Schmoke, former mayor of Baltimore, who publicly called for drugs to be decriminalized - which earned him the cover of Time magazine, after a Congressman called him "the most dangerous man in America"

fallingupdownthere

So glad you're moving onto season 4 right away. Get ready, the opening of season 4 might be the best cold opening ever. Season 4 is amazing. You're gonna love it.

Ph4ZeD

I'm not sure what's better, the fact you are going straight onto Season 4 or Simone drooling over Idris Elba :D

Michael Kang-Beats

George - Welcome to the Season 2 is Best Social Club.

Jesus F Christ

I'll join in on the suggestion to watch Generation Kill, an HBO 7 episode miniseries about the Iraq war written and produced by David Simon, after finishing The Wire, of course. Then you could circle back and watch We Own This City, also produced by David Simon. Here's the IMDB description of it: "Tells the story of the rise and fall of the Baltimore Police Department's Gun Trace Task Force and the corruption surrounding it."

Charlotte Drolet

Yeah, Stringer used up his plot armor in season 1! He didn't have any for this season. 🤣🤣🤣

Joe Williams

Simone reflexively saying someone needs to "get got" is such a great way to see the show has gotten under your skin😂

Blacky

I understand George's half frustration, because he made himself believe something long was coming. I understand, because most show would milk it, probably a whole season on a Stringer vs Avon thing. Although there was no strong indication, no fake out in the show, this was going to happen. But The Wire is not most show. They don't milk it. They show that even very appealing, very sexy and powerful people can go down when a simple mistake of the past caught up to them. It shows that true brotherly love can happen, but it's the real world and when cornered hard it can break. Stronger broke because of ego, and greed. He wanted just the money, more money, with less risks, and he was abated and ashamed by having being taken for a right by Clay "sheeeeeeeeeeet" Davis. Avon was the better brother here. He was really broken by it, and did not initiate it even if he was against Stringer as much as Stringer was against him. But Brother Mouzone left him little choice with a clear threat, plus the ultimatum toward Avon's name and reputation which was both personal but also professional because that's the only thing Avon has against Marlo. I was flabbergasted too when I saw the murder of Stringer Bell the first time, but it's still one (among many) of my favorite scene/plot beat in the whole show. They didn't milk it. They showed in a very restrained manner how unbelievably effective pros like Omar or Brother are, this is not John Wick bullshit, but proper professional assassination. As a commiseration to George, and without spoiler, I can tell you that we will see in season 4 some people Rolling Stone magazine ranked #2 on their "40 Greatest TV Villains of all time" article. I'm not telling who, one or many, if they are new or not. But don't worry, things don't end with the end of Stringer Bell, even if the replacement(s) are very, very different.

micah

aww darn no andor next week

redddfer44
>>108185340

Stringer's fate is really cool when you stop to think about it. It comes as a surprise, but when you look back at season three, it's about him losing everything while he thinking he's going upwards in the world. His own hubris condemns him. But not until he's been humiliated and outplayed and he knows it. I see echoes of couple of really fucking good film climaxes here and they're obviously spoilers, but also Greek tragedies which as always inform The Wire. The pacing in Ep11 is really cool, too. I didn't really notice it when I first watched it that it's quite frantic, but subtly so (through editing and pacing instead of, say, a bombastic soundtrack). Kinda like someone running for their life. Sometimes there's a moment of calm, but then it gets nervous and unsettling again. I love love love how this show is edited.

Blacky
>>108185580

This show is too recent. Almost anyone who is interested has watched it very recently. Re-watching it whole, every minute of it, just for Youtube Reacts, is asking a lot.

Blacky
>>108157159

If you haven't seen it, you should watch Thomas Flight's videos on The Wire. He showed a LOT of duality and comparisons exactly like that throughout the show and its seasons, many I missed even though this is my third watch and a half.

Marc West

Would love to see you react to “Letters From Iwo Jima”. Absolutely fantastic movie.

Irate Spec

Season 4 is the best season.

Peter Hudson

This was my favorite season because the concept it explored with Hamsterdam was so thought out in a sociological way; the good and bad reprocussions of such a move on the population. Most people's favorite seems to be 4 for reasons that should be apparent pretty quick; and though 2 is my least favorite, it's my least favorite season of possibly the most thoughtful and fascinating show ever written so is still a masterpiece

Peter Hudson

Just commented, but thought I'd mention there were 3 "webisodes" of this show released showing a quick origin of Prop Joe, Omar, and McNulty meeting Bunk that you two would enjoy; just youtube: The Wire webisodes and you can watch them

Kenneth thomas

it's on like donkey kong. can the show get even better than this? somehow, yes, yes it can. :P

Jay

Prez and Lester's friendship is one of the more wholseome things on the show, Clarke Peters (Lester) and Jim True-Frost (Prez) became very good friends while filming. When you're finished, I recommend you listen to "The Wire at 20" podcast that came out last year. Presented by Method Man (Cheese, and he's hilarious on it), it's 8 short enough episodes, 30-40 minutes each but there's lots of great stories from behind the scenes told by the cast and crew (including get togethers at Clarke Peters' house where, according to the man himself, "there was no TV, just books, wine and conversation"). Also, listening to the likes of David Simon and Ed Burns talk about The Wire, why they made it, why the war on drugs is a pile of horse shit, how it's destroyed so many communities across the U.S., the bullshit politics that surrounds it and why the show is just as relevant today, it's amost as riveting as the show itself. Already mentioned it in this thread but I'm so happy we're going straight to season 4:)

Tenn Seven

Simone's a lil' gangsta now! "Stringer gets got!"

James Boyd

Flutter like a butterfly, sting like a bee. Was that what you were both thinking?

Nerd Going Outside

The thing I love about that last scene with Stringer and Avon is that these are dudes that both still clearly love each other and regret what they *feel like* they have to do in betraying each other... but both of them are betraying the other over some bullshit. Stringer snitches on Avon because he's fucking up their business and cash flow... but so what? Stringer already said earlier in the season that they already made so much money they aren't going to be alive to spend it all. Dude has who knows how many millions, and property too. If he wanted to he could tell Avon good luck, dip out, and have more than enough for the rest of his life. But no - he wants more of that cash flow. He's betraying his brother over greed. And Avon? Mouzone didn't threaten to kill Avon if he didn't give Stringer up. He said he'd lose his line to New York, and his reputation. He wouldn't be able to run his crew anymore, but again... fuck it, right? He has enough money. He could have told Mouzone to kick rocks, he wasn't giving Stringer up, warned Stringer, and the two could have retired together with their mountain of cash. But no - he protected his rep with his brother's life. As a viewer we might feel like one of them was more right than the other, but at the end of the day they are both ruthless motherfuckers drunk on their own particular bullshit and willing to sacrifice their best friend since childhood over it. And deep down they both know it. The other thing I wanted to point out, as we say goodbye to stringer, is that while in D'Angelo's final monologue about The Great Gatsby he was talking about himself, everything he said really applies to Stringer here at the end. D'Angelo: "He's saying that the past is always with us, and where we come from, what we go through, how we go through it, all this shit matters. I mean, that's what I thought he meant... "Like at the end of the book, you know, boats and tides and all. It's like you can change up, right, you can say you somebody new, you can give yourself a whole new story. But, what came first is who you really are and what happened before is what really happened. "And it don't matter that some fool say he different cuz the only thing that make you different is what you really do, what you really go through. Like, ya know, like all them books in his library. He frontin with all them books, but if you pull one down off the shelf, ain't none of the pages ever been opened. He got all them books, and he ain't read near one of 'em. "Gatsby, he was who he was, and he did what he did. And cuz he wasn't ready to get real with the story, that shit caught up to him. I think, anyway." Someone put together a YouTube video that really says it, IMO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dT76S1XvUag

Travis H

Just wanted to post about what may be my favorite scene of the entire series, the final scene between Avon and Stringer. Both of them on the rooftop reminiscing/ saying goodbye to be each other because both of them betrayed the other (and neither knowing it) is one of the best written scenes in any media and it plays even better on repeat viewings knowing where both of them end up. Just spectacular writing! Like everyone else here, can’t wait for S4 it is my favorite.

redddfer44

A few miscellaneous things about S3, no foreshadowing or spoilers: - I love to hear what you guys think, even if you miss some things right now. This is a really complex show and it's impossible to spot everything on the first watch. Especially because some stuff is left open to interpretation. - I agree, this is the most realistic season yet -- one wouldn't be wrong to speak of the genre "realism" or even "naturalism" here. It doesn't obey tv tropes, but tries to portray the world through a story. Like all the best writers (and Bunny), they make up the rules as it goes along. - Cellphones: I don't what cops can get direct access to, but in real life, telephone companies get the details of the phone. IIRC, each telephone call is connected to a SIM card, but also to the IMEI number of the device in question. So even if you switch between SIMs, there's the possibility of identifying the device you're calling from. - String didn't get legal justice, but he got what was coming to him and it wasn't slow either. He spent a lot of the season frustrated and scared, and even when he thought he was getting ahead in life, towards the end his perspective shifted and he really knew that he had lost. I think it feels pretty tragic in how it portrays how hubris works: you think you're ambitious and successful, while all the while you're digging your own grave. - I love the scene in String's apartment. The reveal and the confusion. - Bunny not changing the city is really sad. But I'm glad that he realized he'd done the right thing. He wasn't sure what he was doing right at the beginning and he wasn't a thinker, but when the situation got more complicated than he thought, he always did what he thought was right. That's more than most people in the show can say. And of course, the gods weren't happy about it. - I dig what they did with the mayor. He started out as an asshole, but I think that for a moment there, he actually considered doing the right thing. From my perspective, he didn't get what was coming to him -- on the contrary, he was about to change himself and try to radically change the city as well, but couldn't. There was sadness in his eyes.

Blacky

Interesting, I always saw the mayor scenes in the end as a matter of path to governor, or maybe senate or white house. Or at the least, legacy. I don't see him concerned with the people, but only with the politics. And yes, one can't ignore the politics because with no power there is no power to help, but I still don't see it. As for Stringer, I also don't see a concern for a lack of justice. McNulty's problem is that he beat Stringer and Stringer doesn't know it. It's about ego, and a host of personal reasons that have very little to do with Stringer himself or justice.

ThePVO

The thing about "Hampsterdam" is there was nothing going on there that wasn't already going on, it was just concentrated and not dispersed amongst the populace where it's easier to ignore and write off as a problem of addicts as individuals and a usually unacknowledged burden of their families and friends. Seeing it clustered enables a more immediate observation of the cause and effect of addiction and the public policies that have not only failed to retard sale and use of narcotics but have corrupted law enforcement and governance by making them financially culpable in the continuance of the drug war as "enforcement." "if it's a lie, then we fight on that lie" was as much about the war on drugs as it was about the street level fight for territory.

Jesse Coombs

I'm very excited you guys are going straight into season 4. It's probably my favorite show. (Well, maybe tied with "Twin Peaks: The Return")

Byron Abrahams

Been waiting for this. That Avon-Stringer conversation is my favourite scene from the whole show. The subtlety of the writing and performances is beyond anything.

Byron Abrahams

"Back To Square One Again" might as well be the tagline of the whole show. That's it's tragedy, and brilliance.

Chris Freeman

Hearing Simone say, "Stringer Bell gets got," was the highlight of my entire The Wire watching experience.

Chris Freeman

Avon didn't contract Omar and Brother to kill Stringer. He had no choice but to give up where Stringer was going to be, and when. Brother made that clear if Avon wanted to uphold his reputation with NYC.

Hexon66
>>108255985

All good points. Unfortunately, all too often people (sorry, but not unlike S&G) are content with just mocking "the war on drugs", and leaving it there, as if staking moral high ground with platitudes were good enough.

Hexon66
>>124198787

Mine was when she mentioned that Carcetti was so sheltered. Oh, sweet child, nearly three seasons in and she's proficient in all things gangsta.