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LA Confidential - Patreon Version (Patreon)

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2023-05-27 12:00:02
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No Sync Required Version: https://cinebingers.ca/zs8hlVNN85 - For Patreon tier "Bingers on The Wall" or higher.

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Jay Davis

Don't tell anyone I'm watching this immediately at 7am. Hush hush. On the QT! (I just got to the part where Simone says "ahh James Cromwell" and happily holds up the Vulcan sign.... oh dear.)

JayF

I had the movie waiting to go as soon as the email drops and took my shower early just so I could watch the first 45 minutes this morning before work. *giddy*

djKENTO

This is in my top 5 of all time. RIP to Curtis Hanson. He had so many more great films to direct.

Christopher Feiertag

So, why not continue the „film noir“ -journey with the other modern pinnacle of the genre: „Chinatown“? And after that, you can proceed with all the black&white-hallmarks from the 30‘s, 40‘s and 50‘s. (P.s.: „Chinatown“ would give the opportunity to be outraged by the despicable nature of another Hollywood-legend: Roman Polanski.

Marko T.

The Flash comes to movie theaters in few weeks and Michael Keaton returns as Batman in that. Now would be a good time to react to Batman (1989). :) Edit: It also has Kim Basinger.

Magnificent Gojira

It's what noir should have been if not for Hays Code. It's definetely has connection with classic noir cycle and literature it was based on.

Odd Thomas

Another great Curtis Hanson movie: Wonder Boys. Michael Douglas, Tobey Maguire and Robert Downey Jnr. Such an underrated comedy.

David Martin

Cars with distinct fenders (look like they've been bolted on) = 1940s and earlier. Cars with fenders integrated into body= 1950s and later.

Joe D. MacGuffinstuff

Danny De Vito is not only a great narrator, he's a pretty great director too. He directed at least two great dark comedies, "Throw Momma From the Train," and one of my favorites, "War Of The Roses".

David Martin

Loosely based on facts, some of the characters were real (Micky Cohen and other criminals), and cops' behavior were pretty spot on. James Ellroy, who wrote the book the movie's based on, has written a number of excellent crime novels of that time period when he was a child. His mother was raped and murdered when he was 10, and the murderer was never caught. It's no wonder his novels are all extremely gritty and dark. The movie is pretty close to the book, and definitely has the right feel, but there are subplots galore that couldn't possibly find their way into the screenplay.

Jim Frykman

Been looking forward to this one for a while!

Young Blood Priest

Not sure why he was there but the guy on the horse at the end was a tv cowboy called Hop Along Cassidy. At least it looked like him.

PIG

Kevin Spacy's death is one of the best twists/scenes for me. The character was so smart to give that one last clue before he dies and how Spacy made the life leave his eyes was just perfect.

Tenn Seven

Lol. George was talking and they both missed that the "shitbird" with Lynn who White scared off was a city councilman. And yes, Lana Turner was a real actress, and Johnny Stompanato was a real mob guy who dated her.

redddfer44

You know what's a classic noir? Casablanca. At least it's so close to noir that I've come across debates about whether it's a noir or not. That's a good post-film discussion right there.

JediLounger

More noir movies? There are endless classic films to name, so I would suggest you guys get subs to the Criterion Collection streaming service, assuming it’s available in Canada(if not, get clever with a vpn). They have restored many classics from the Hollywood noir period, when LA Confidential took place. In terms of modern films, Devil in a Blue Dress (1995) and Out of Time (2003) are good. One False Move (1992) is also well regarded. A Simple Plan (1998) would be a good one. Brick (2005) is great. Other posters have mentioned Chinatown (1974). Also Drive (2011) and Memento (2000) would be fun. Heat (1995) is called a neo-noir action film by some. I got lots more but that’s a good start.

faiszal

Nominated for Best Picture but lost to Titanic. Another nominee that year was As Good As It Gets, which is one my favorite movies. I hope to see a reaction to that some day.

Luis

Night of the Hunter is a great classic noir. And History of Violence is an excellent example of a neo-noir. My favorite noir at the moment is Body Heat.

Martin Nicholls

It's a Hollywood movie about Hollywood, of course it has a happy(ish) ending. Could you imagine? lol. Saw a couple of West Wing sets floating around this heh. There is, believe it or not some tangential rough basis for the story of this btw. Love James Cromwell, have you guys, out of interest, seen Succession? Oh also this movie and I don't know why made me think you need to see American Gangster, I think because Russell Crowe but it just popped into my head; but on crime noir set in LA a little bit before this movie - Gangster Squad. Not as good, but still..

Odd Thomas

For more dark-side-of-Hollywood I recommend Mulholland Drive. Literally my favourite movie. Think bad cheese dream nightmare version of LA Confidential.

David Martin

Lana Turner and Johnny Stompanato were real people. Stompanato was later knifed to death by Turner's 14-year-old daughter, ruled self-defense. Kim Basinger won an Oscar for her role. Watching her slide down to ground after being hit by Bud was truly heart-wrenching. Also, while her hair was styled to look like Veronica Lake, she was far too tall at 5'-7" (170cm). Veronica Lake was tiny -- barely 5 feet tall. Both were astonishingly beautiful. Lake was paired with Alan Ladd (another short actor at 5'-4") in three (?) film noirs in the early 1940's. Neither one would probably be given a part in today's American film industry due to their height. I've watched this movie many times and read many of James Ellroy's books, and they really hold up after multiple viewing/reading.

sarCC

The Maltese Falcon and Double Indemnity are great noir films. The latter kinda feels like the Scream of noir movies as it almost seems to be making fun of the genre while executing its tropes better than other films in the genre. Nothing like a real hardboiled insurance agent as a tough protagonist.

Jim Frykman

Feel free to include The Big Lebowski in your list of noir films :D

Tenn Seven

If you're into reading, I highly recommend the "L.A. Confidential" novel, along with the rest of James Ellroy's "L.A. Quartet" (which includes "The Black Dahlia," "The Big Nowhere," "L.A. Confidential," and "White Jazz"). All four books are just phenomenal.

Spacedone

Interesting side story about Lana Turner and Johnny Stompanato, possibly not true but I want it to be. Lana was working on a film with Sean Connery in London where he was playing her lover. Tabloid newspapers ran stories about them being in a relationship and this made Johnny jealous enough that he flew to England, threatening to kill them both. He showed up on the film set while they were filming a romantic scene and apparently walked in front of the camera and pulled a gun on Connery. Connery (Mr Universe bodybuilder contestant only a few years earlier and child of some rough Scottish neighbourhood) immediately grabbed the gun, disarmed him and then laid Stompanato, violent mob enforcer, out with one punch.

Odd Thomas

Another good Hollywood detective flick: Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang

Spacedone

For a bit of crime noir with a difference (aka not set in LA), how about watching the excellent original version of Get Carter with Michael Caine or The Long Good Friday with Bob Hoskins and Helen Mirren?

Odd Thomas

Minority Report is a good detective thriller, but sci-fi

Duncan
>>109426503

"A Simple Plan (1998)" is a fantastic watch, great cast with Billy Bob Thornton and Bill Paxton and also popular with high ratings of 90% on RT and 7.5 on IMDb ,would be a great reaction to see

Odd Thomas

Your poster observation is pretty accurate. Kim Basinger was a HUGE star in the 80s (Batman) and the biggest star of this movie at that time, hence she got the biggest plug on the poster. It actually was something of a comeback for her as she hadn't had a hit for a while, as I remember it. Spacey was hot off Seven and Usual Suspects so he was no.2 in ranking. Guy Pierce I think it was his first Hollywood film, and while Crowe HAD been in Hollywood movies like The Quick and the Dead and Virtuosity, he was not a 'star' yet. This movie launched both their careers into the stratosphere. Pierce then made Memento with Nolan and Crowe made Gladiator.

Odd Thomas

The Black Dahlia, based on another Ellroy novel, isn't as good a movie but does have a great cast (ScarJo) and it's based on a real murder which makes it interesting in itself.

Steve Mercier

Absolutely love this movie--even if Kevin 'Icky' Spacey is in it (goddamn it, he's good in this), and James Ellroy, who wrote the book upon which this is based, really does not like this adaptaion. Whatever...this movie is a spectacular police detective noir. And I'd love to see you guys watch some more. One of my favorites is Rian Johnson's first movie, called Brick. Either way, more noir please.

Michael Robayo

This movie won a Best-adapted Screenplay Oscar. As well as Kim Basinger for best supporting actress.

PIG

I love David Bowie but, from what I've heard over the years, he's had a lot of inappropriate relations himself during the height of his career. But no one talks about it! Only Spacey, which is a bit odd. We are very choosy of who we publicly vilify (not that I'm defending Kevin Spacey, but it's still strange that the asterisk of his personal life pops up in every movie). I've personally had inappropriate moves made on me by women during my life but are they now evil too? Not angry! Just a little perplexed. And confused. ...God I'm getting old lol

Craig

If you liked this and haven't seen it already, you might want to check out The Departed (not noir).

redddfer44
>>109430397

Lynch is one of my all-time favorites. It'd be really interesting to see what S&G think about Mulholland Drive.

Angus Kirk

I've got two I'd really love to watch with you two. Snowpiercer (2013), and Only Lovers Left Alive (2014).

Ken Quick

"Badge of Honor" was a transparently-veiled stand-in for "Dragnet," from which the catch-phrase "Just the facts" was lifted.

Ali Williams

This movie is based on a series of books called the L.A. Quartet. All four books “ The Black Dahlia”, “The Big Nowhere” “LA Confidential” and “ White Jazz” were written by James Elroy, who is a fucking insane writer. I mean that both as a compliment and as a basic fact. Elroy’s mother was murdered when he was young and it royally messed him up. He channeled his energies into writing and his writing style is so unique, original, dark and singular that it is a wonder to behold. Highly recommend reading LA Confidential. It’s like 50’s crime noire novels on crack.

Ali Williams
>>109441611

All of our favourite art was made by monsters. Spacey is one of the best actors ever and did much to found and develop theatre groups and provide spaces for them to perform. He was knighted by the Queen for Pete’s sake. And yet despite all those accolades and good works, he remains a monster who preyed on young actors for the sake of power. And if you look at his body of work, it’s obvious now that he was trying to tell us all who he was for decades. Cosby is the same. So was Bowie. So is Rowling. They were the ones who put the asterisk on their body of work. So if I am going to review and critique their works, it’s incumbent on me to never forget the asterisks.

FranciscoGios

Giving the fact that this movie was competing with TITANIC it won the Best Adapted Screenplay and the actress Kim Basinger won something as well. Out of Time 2003(Denzel Washington) & Strange Days 1995 are some noir movies.

Jesse Coombs

Russell Crowe really shines when he's partnered with a dynamic actor. Paul Bettany in Master and Commander, Denzel Washington in Virtuosity, Joaquin Phoenix in Gladiator, Guy Pearce in this, and Ryan Gosling in The Nice Guys. BTW, I really hope you guys watch The Nice Guys (also with Kim Basinger) soon (and Kiss Kiss Bang Bang by extension).

Jesse Coombs

For more noir, watch any Billy Wilder movie. Even his comedies are top tier. Also "The Sweet Smell of Success". It's a noir that's not about murder, but with the sharpest dialogue I've ever heard in a movie. Also, both Kurosawa and Orson Welles both made noir movies; Stray Dog, and Touch of Evil, respectively. Both are fantastic.

Brendan Rafferty

Shame on you for not knowing who Lana Turner was. Separately, Lana Turner was dating gangster Johnny Stomponato… one of the many real events that were used in this movie… Mickey Cohen being taken down, the LAPD running an illegal brute squad to beat out of town gangsters and drive them out… the bloody Christmas incident… the Night Owl Murders… these were all real events

Foodassassin4life

You might not remember this but Lana Turner was mentioned in kill Bill vol 2 as the reason why Bill loved blondes. Also that little end piece was probably to give people a hint that that actor guy was gay and since Kevin Spacey was very close with this guy he was probably gay too I think.

james repka

Bloody Christmas, in which a large group of officers and detectives attacked a group of Mexican-American (and two white) suspect who were already in custody, actually happened although no reporters were present and LAPD officials managed to keep it under wraps for several months. Jack Vincennes was technical advisor for a television show about the LAPD. In fact the show was called Dragnet and started on the radio in the late 1940s before moving to TV in the 50s, where it lasted until the mid-1970s. The main character was Joe Friday, played by Jack Webb. He narrated and played the role in a monotone, with the catch phrase "Just the facts, Ma'am." Mickey Cohen was a real gangster who ran organized crime in LA until he was arrested and convicted, and the LAPD organized a "goon squad" to kidnap and beat up his associates or others who tried to take over his operations.

Daniel Popp

This movie has one of the best scenes in combining music in scene that isn't part of the soundtrack with the actors actions: when Bud saves the rape victim and kills her rapist/kidnapper. The music of the show the rapist/kidnapper was watching is chefs kiss perfect for that scene. Especially when Bud slowly approaches the rapist/kidnapper before killing him. Great for building tension and the anticipation of what you knew what was about to happen.

Alex Ch

The modern noir to react to is Memento, also starring Guy Pearce. Brilliant movie, great reaction potential. And it’s from Christopher Nolan, so it should appeal on YouTube.

djKENTO

When Exley takes the call it’s not that there are no cops on duty. Those are detectives not beat cops. Uniformed cops would still patrol and they’d call some one at home if it was bad.

djKENTO
>>109422405

Nah how about we don’t watch the films of convicted pedophiles who sprinkle their fetishes into their films…

Jacob King

A great follow up would be The Nice Guys starring Russell Crowe and Ryan Gosling. Similar dynamics except it’s a comedy set in the 1970s. Crowe and Pierce (and Simon Baker) were stars in Australia before this came out but this was their American break. Basinger was definitely the biggest star at the time, even Cromwell and Spacey were seen as character actors.

PIG
>>109455592

I seriously have to check those out. Thank you Ali!

Spacedone

I'd say that Spacey was more of the star at the time. Basinger had a few big movies in the late 80s/early 90s but wasn't exactly selling movies on her name whereas Spacey had name recognition and was riding high after prominent/famous roles in a string of hits like Swimming with Sharks, Seven, The Usual Suspects and Outbreak just a few years before this. Basinger gets such prominent placement on the poster because it fits the femme fatale aesthetic of such movies.

redddfer44
>>109514443

I was in my teens when it came out, so my memory is hazy, but now that you mention it, I think I went in expecting Spacey to be the main guy. Which is why Jack’s death was quite a shocker. It makes the movie even twistier that the male protagonists who make it till the end were relative unknowns and their pictures are so small in the poster.

E.P.B.F.
>>109459263

Not a Noir classic per se, even a bit obscure, but i've always really liked Farewell My Lovely (1975). Robert Mitchum does the best Phillip Marlowe portrayal ever put on film (yes, i am including Humphrey Bogart in The Big Sleep.) and Jack O’Halloran just kills it as Moose Malloy. Plus baby Stallone! Hugely underrated movie imo.

Logan Kerlee

Fantastic movie! I'm very glad that I watched the reaction with you both. I didn't know anything about this movie at all! I went in completely blind. I didn't even know the whole cast before I started it up. This was a great movie though! One that I wouldn't of enjoyed as a kid - when this came out. I'm very happy that I watched this as an adult. I'm thinking that's why, yeah. They wanted the pretty lady on the cover. I got funky vibes from the villain cop - but I didn't suspect him! Once it was shown that it was him a "DUH!!" moment dropped. I super enjoyed the way this was filmed! I'm ALL for watching more film noir on here! Back when I was in highschool I took a class called Film As Lit for my senior English class. In that class we watched a ton of amazing films and movies. We covered noir films and it was really cool. xD I'm rambling but I'm also writing this at 3:26am after I finished the movie. Yeeeeeesh. I'm gonna get some shut eye. :)

Logan Kerlee
>>109467338

Memento is fantastic! I'd love to watch a reaction to that with George and Simone.

Michael Robayo

Great reaction! This is a classic late 90's flick of a movie that no longer gets made. Smart and entertaining, with a lot of mystery, twists, and turns. Also, agree with George, Spacey was a great actor, and he threw it all away being a scum bag. But we can still appreciate his work in some ways.

Hexon66
>>109612615

He was determined not guilty on all counts in a British court. That doesn't mean you have to believe he's innocent (or even a good person), but it should give people pause to think they can brazenly denigrate the man's character without first hand knowledge.

pinkdino99

Top 10 film of mine, a massive passion project from director Curtis Hanson. Wild that two of the three stars were Australian newcomers , (Crowe had done The Quick and the Dead).