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Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind - Patreon Version (Patreon)

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No Sync Required Version: https://cinebingers.ca/6laYNMX4A6 - For Patreon tier "Bingers on The Wall" or higher.

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punterjoe

David Cross is fun wherever he shows up - from Men in Black to Arrested Development. To me, his most iconic role will always be Brother Donnie in the old sitcom Just Shoot Me. I think it's on Hulu and it's worth a watch. So snarky, jaded and darkly funny.

MacGuffinStuff

I love Charlie Kaufman movies, especially this one, and Confessions of A Dangerous Mind, of course Being John Malkovich, and Adaptation. I'm also a big David Cross fan, Arrested Development was so funny, they cancelled it way too soon and I wasn't as into the newer episodes when they finally picked it back up, but Mr. Show and The Increasingly Poor Decisions of Todd Margaret, I don't know, just my type of humor. Also, Kirsten Dunst is great in the second season of Fargo, my favorite season of that show, I just happened to be rewatching the first episode this morning before this posted. *BTW second season is awesome, definitely my favorite, it's so good. First was great too, Billy Bob Thornton specifically, third I'm a little meh on, fourth I liked, but I'm rewatching because I don't think I gave third and fourth seasons enough attention on first view.

Ian Forbes

According to collider.com, “Night of the Day of the Dawn of the Son of the Bride of the Return of the Revenge of the Terror of the Attack of the Evil, Mutant, Hellbound, Flesh-Eating Subhumanoid Zombified Living Dead, Part 2: In Shocking 2-D” is the longest movie title … though when Simone was joking about Eternal Sunshine, I always think of “The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford” as the longest well known title.

Ian Forbes

As for their fate, I always took the way the final image is of them constantly running/ rewinding/running away from the camera in the snow as a metaphor for them taking the same steps over and over again, and my generally pessimistic view of things doesn’t give it a happily ever after. But like George said, you learn from having the experience so as much as I sometimes wish I could erase certain memories/people, it would also mean I wouldn’t have learned what I have from them and would repeat the same mistakes I made because I didn’t know any better yet.

Mati D.

Number 23 and The Majestic are drama movies with Jim, a must watch at some point.

Jeff I.
>>111947649

Can't forget about Man On The Moon when it comes to Carrey's more dramatic roles (a comedy-drama yes, but still). :-p

Taylor Stuckey

I'm an optimistic person. And I have a lot of issues that both Joel and Clementine have. My personal plan would be to hold on to the tapes and use them as reminders that "things could always be worse, as bad as they feel". Also, the film masterfully and subtly shows us another possible path. Look at Joel's friends. They live together. In almost every scene they are in, they are having very pointed and personal fights. They also have little ticks that annoy the other person, like David Cross banging on the birdhouse pissing off his girlfriend. Him calling her "Mama Carrie". But they are aware of this memory erasing service! And never once consider doing it! They are still together. They fight, they get it out, they know each other, and then they move on and live their life together, the implication being "as different as we are, I know this is the one for me." Joel and Clementine need to be like them. Maybe ask them for advice about how they make it work. The movie is right there giving you "here's a couple as doomed as Joel and Clementine, but they make it work because they love each other."

W T
>>111938422

Also amazing recall on Simone "something with jean shorts?" - yeah, that's Tobias for you. Arrested Development is a powerhouse in itself, but David Cross kind of entirely makes the show regardless. Dude is incredible in it.

Monica Alarcon

Watching this movie reminded me of two similar movies I'd like to recommend, maybe not for the channel but at least for you to watch: -Waking Life by Richard Linklater... an absolute trip, and the soundtrack is amazing -The Science of Sleep by Michael Gondry...

G P

I've seen this film 3 times now, liked Jim Carrey's performance and think its overall a pretty good movie, but I just don't understand all the hype.

Kinokind

So much to say about this film! One of my top ten films. Charlie Kaufman is a frick'n genius. Career best performances for Carrey and Winslet. The best film about relationships ever made. Rewatching is rewarding. OK, here's my take: Unless one assumes that people with dissimilar personalities can never be together, I take this as them being gifted with a second chance. It isn't an endless loop, because Lacuna is almost certainly now out of business. And although they don't have first-hand memories of the past events, they have themselves on tape warning them that there will be rough times ahead, so they have the opportunity to act differently this time. And at the end they seem to agree that they may be unhappy in the future, but (the moral of the film is) that the good times are worth experiencing/remembering - even at the cost of the bad times. Even the woman who lost her dog no doubt wants to forget because of the pain, but would she really want to forget all the good times? It's a shame Dr. Mierzwiak's process (I assume he invented it) was applied so indiscriminately. I'm sure he sincerely wanted to help people (it would be of benefit to people like those suffering from PTSD). But the reveal about Mary shows the potential for abuse - even with good intentions. Even when the memory of the past is erased, the emotions that initiated them still exist. Mary still loves Howard and Joel still loves Clementine. Good and bad experiences are how we grow. Pain is the price we pay for happiness. If your grandmother dies, do you have her memory erased because her death is painful? No. That's life.

Odd Thomas

Tip for bunged up nose: bowl of hot water, put a towel over your head and hover your face & towel over the steam like a mini sauna.

Michael Robayo

Cinebinge's tag phrase, "I don't know." lol

Steve Mercier

One potential playout for their fate I've never really seen discussed--and I'm not even sure I fully believe--is that Joel took Clementine to parts of his memories he wasn't supposed to (childhood, humiliation, yearning for the love of a mother figure), only to have them erased by the process. Would that fundamentally change who he is? Did Clementine do the same thing? And are they now compatible enough to make it work? As I said, I don't know that I fully believe this. The end shot of them constantly running and rewinding on the snow-covered beach seems to suggest otherwise; and I also think it doesn't really matter. The point is, that love isn't simple: you typically can't remove the bad memories from the good; and, what do we do when we find ourselves drawn to someone who isn't exactly right for us?

iOmegaTron

Hahaha when Simone said "it's weird going from Ace Ventura to this" I immediately pictured Joel in this movie was waking up from a fever dream where he was a pet detective.

Kinokind

I believe the ending was intentionally ambiguous: Is it a memory of the past? Is it a happy future? Or are they doomed to repeat their mistakes? We are left to our own conclusions. Some production notes: Director Gondry conducted extensive rehearsals with the two principals, including improvisation. Jim Carrey had had a recent painful break-up, and Gondry encouraged him to retain that feeling. When he saw him crestfallen and distraught from the break-up, he described his appearance as "beautiful". How French. That's why one never catches them acting. They shot all hand-held cameras and always used two at a time. In most cases the light sources were practical, and sometimes they used only a 100 watt clip-light on the camera. Some takes were so long that they had to use 1000' film magazines on the cameras, and the crews had to squeeze into the space between train seats or the backseats of cars. The film won oscars for best screenplay and female lead. If you want to see a really eccentric, yet brilliant, film, again written (and this time also directed) by Kaufman, see "Synecdoche New York". It's not for everyone, and is strong coffee, indeed. I'm not sure if it's a comedy, but if it is, it's the blackest of black comedies. One New York film reviewer watched it and then spent the rest of the night drinking alone in a bar. It left Roger Ebert so affected that he spent his review reflecting on the meaning of life. I think it's Kaufman's magnum opus.

Mitchell Bowker

Something I just noticed this time watching - In the scene after Joel has Clementine erased, he doesn't remember the Huckleberry Hound "Clementine" song when she asks him not to make fun of her name, but when they first meet he did remember because he had a Huckleberry Hound doll... they must have erased that part of his memory from childhood when he went hiding in them!

Com1xguy

This movie crushes me every time I watch it. One of my favorites.

Odd Thomas

Charlie Kaufman scripts are always crazy and original and interesting, but can be an acquired taste; you either love it or hate it. His last film I'm Thinking of Ending Things was incredible imo. I think the message of the film is; nobody is perfect, so enjoy the good times and just do your best, knowing there will be bad times too.

Michael Kang-Beats

I think it's unfair to think Clem is why things went bad in the relationship. I think one of y'all said she's unstable. We only see Joel's perspective. Even memories displayed as videos are biased... unreliable narrator and all. :) Joel obviously has trouble communicating, is judgemental, and likely relies on Clem as the source of entertainment in the relationship or the only one to initiate conversation. I've dated people like Joel. It gets old. And when you no longer want to prevent the relationship from being completely silent, you push buttons to get something. I've done it. In one of the few flaws of Joel, they show us, he is also avoidant. On more than one occasion, he says, "We can talk about it later." I bet those things get steeped onto the pile of his passive-aggressive jabs that never get addressed. Clem's feelings and criticisms of Joel are just as valid. I love this movie. It is Top 10 for me. Thanks for watching.

JayF

Frodo Baggins - Panty burglar

Logan Kerlee

I'm pretty sure that I feel that Clementine and Joel found some reason to break up or implode over. Clementine and him aren't compatible in terms of long term relationships. I first watched this movie years and years ago with my ex wife. I enjoyed it more than she did at the time. Oh, my answer's B - all the way. I'm similar to Joel in a lot of ways. I keep things to myself far more than most - not in a "I don't exist" sort of way, but I always do that. hahahaha, GEORGE! That was gold! "This is so bland. It's pointless!" I'm a big fan of Jim Carrey playing serious roles as well. They make you think. :)

Logan Kerlee
>>111939442

Ah - that's cool! :) My younger sister used to look EXACTLY like Kirsten Dunst. It's scary, in a way. hahaha

Robert da Spruce

I think they’ll eventually run into the same issues that drove them apart in the first place. And they’ll eventually break up. But to me, that’s the whole point. It’s better to experience the whole relationship. Good and Bad. Than to not ever experience any of it. We are all a sum of our experiences. And if you erase a relationship from your mind. You not only erase all the bad stuff. But you erase all the good. You can’t have good without bad. You can’t have light without dark. That’s life. Look at that person that wanted to erase their pets memory from there mind. Yes, it’s sad to lose a pet. But think of all the happiness and joy that pet gave you. That will all be gone too. I’d rather keep those memories. Even if I’d be hurting today. And I think Joel and Clementine know their relationship is doomed. But it’s worth the pain they know they’ll eventually face. In exchange for all the love and joy they’ll have until that day.

FranciscoGios

Thru his career Jim Carrey has only won two Golden Globes, one for The Truman Show & two for Man on the Moon(1999). The first time I saw this movie I was very young, so when they showed them fighting at the end about if they should still be together I was so sad; but now as I’m older I noticed that Joel and Clementine weren’t meant to be together. And Finally when I we going to see Man on the Moon & The Cable Guy?

JayF

I couldn't get into this one. I mean why not just erase the bits of your past that make you such a terrible match for other people? The causes of your insecurities, addictions, and such. I loved Being John Malkovich though.

Haye Zeus

I think the memories are important to have. Yes their relationship is probably doomed to fail, but I think what was important was those memories. Trying to relive them again is more important

Ben M.

I choose Option C. It's indeterminate, and their past actions don't dictate their future relationship. If pigeonholed, I'd lean B, but I think there's a real chance their relationship lasts. I also don't think they're the same people at the end. I think there's some beautiful mirroring where when they first met (second to last big scene) Joel ran away from her "disdainful" comment. In the last big scene, Clementine runs away from his cruel characterization of her. But he follows her and tells her not to go. You can't convince me that Joel from any other point in the movie would have followed her and taken the initiative to change their course of action. And I'm on the opposite side in thinking they have a strong relationship that "works" in a lot of ways. We're basically watching the progression of a two-year relationship, so the three months at the end may be hell, but the good memories outweigh the bad. His steadiness grounds her mercurial temperament and soothes her insecurities; her impulsiveness pushes him to try new things and come out of his shell a bit more than he would have. Yes, it's a double-edged sword where these attributes also hurt the other person, but they complement and support more than they damage.

Jacob King
>>111994633

Yep to this. The Clem of the memories is always working to help him, she wants to make the relationship work. The lesson they learn from the failure of the memory wipe is that happy endings are not possible. The memory wipe being a kind of short-cut to happiness. So, if they go into their relationship knowing that the other person is someone who will always draw them in, someone who cares for them and who they can be happy with but who won’t ever “complete them” they have a good basis for a relationship.

iOmegaTron

I agree with you guys; their differences are WAY too extreme for it to be a good relationship. But it's also hard to say that it wouldn't work. If you have two people together that are essentially the same person, that wouldn't necessarily be guaranteed to work either. What's important is communication. Joel and Clem didn't communicate their issues, and when they did, they did it VERY poorly. Now that they have the opportunity to try again, if they're smart they would use those tapes to help guide their relationship. If it were me, I'd want to sit with my partner and listen to the tapes, take what we express in the tapes into consideration as the relationship progresses. Hopefully when issues arise in the future, they take the opportunity to communicate with each other knowing full well where it lead in the past when they didn't talk it out.

Jim Frykman

This is by far my favorite romantic-dramady. To answer Simone's question I think it's a coin-flip over whether they ended up lasting together or not, but the important message to me is that in spite of everything their bond was strong enough to give it a second chance.

Joe D. MacGuffinstuff

Aw this damn movie, I do love it but it reminds me so much of my ex it brings back the trauma lol I had to stop watching in the middle of it, actually that's because I had to go work, but watching to the end again just now, to answer Simone, C) They ran into the same problems, but they got through them, and lived happily ever after. I think Joel and Clem could make it, even if they don't have the specific shared memories anymore, good and bad, they seem to have a natural emotional connection, it's like Rocky said, they fill gaps, she's got gaps, he's got gaps, together they fill gaps. And in my experience some, not all but some, of the things that people fight over, as you get older, they really don't matter. Unless there's cheating, that is tough to get over, like they say, I can forgive but I can't forget, unless of course there was someone I could pay to make me forget... Problem is, IRL, no matter what, creditors will never let you forget, so I wonder, before you go in for the Lacuna treatment, do you have to pay off any and all associated debt? Btw the truly nightmarish version of this movie would be Jacob's Ladder, seeing the faces in dying memories distorted in this reminded me of that movie.

Gary Fixler

I've always loved no-filter people. I feel comfortable around them, because I don't have to wonder what that look meant, or what lurks beneath their words - I will spin on that kind of thing for days. I knew a girl in high school who just said anything she thought instantly, like you give her something - "Oh, I hate this kind" - or taking a photo of friends - "No, your face looks dumb like that. Try something else." I never knew what she was going to come out with, and it cracked me up every time. It's almost impossible to hurt my feelings about anything, though. It also meant all positive messages could be believed completely. No games, no guesswork. She was always happy, despite how it sounds, probably because she held nothing in, and vented all stress before it happened. Even if she was trashing something, she was laughing about it, and there was no malice. Interesting person.

Travis

Damn back to back nutso cerebral movies

Middy
>>112002237

It's a blessing when you're around people who can handle it.

ChickensAreRacist

So at the end, they’re both aware of this tech. That starts them anew at the outset to see if they may work together. Something the wife mentioned was, what if they abuse it? Knowing it’s an option and they’re like morbidly role playing? Who knows. But to answer the question at the end, considering they’re aware of the tech, they’re possible.

Tay Schumaker

At least one version of the screenplay ends with Clementine and Joel in an endless cycle of erasures and getting back together. In the last scene, an elderly Clementine visits Dr. Mierzwiak, and the screenplay calls for the audience to see a computer screen showing "a list of fifteen dates of previous erasures stretching back fifty years, all of them involving Joel Barish."

Tay Schumaker

Charlie Kaufman is an incredible writer and all of his movies have deeply affected me in one way or another. I’d recommend you watch others but I doubt they’d get many views so probably not great for the channel. But Adaptation, Being John Malkovich, Anomalisa, Synecdoche, NY are all incredible i their own right. If you or anyone else is looking for more Charlie Kaufman

Noe Ramirez

This is my favorite Jim Carry performance. Not to be a hater but I actually don't really enjoy Jim Carry and his whole thing. The only film where it works for me is Ron Howards version of Grinch which I love. But I just think his style of comedy isn't for me. So I don't really like most Jim Carry movies, but this is the exception. The man is super talented and you can really see it in a movie like this. I only wish he did more dramatic roles like this one!

Brad Lowry
>>112369482

I totally agree with you Tay! When Simone and George were going through the amazing cast I was saying out loud, "Charlie Kaufman is always the #1 star in all of his films!" I understand what you are saying about maybe not great for the channel, but I also agree that "Adaptation" might be the place to start. I think that "Being John Malkovich" was the biggest hit, and I think that "Synecdoche, NY" is amazing but the epitome of going down a Charlie Kaufman Rabbit Hole – but would be a great option for a Philip Seymour Hoffman retrospective. Another that is pretty accessible is "Confessions of a Dangerous Mind" especially considering that it is George Clooney's directorial debut. I am so glad they watched this, and by their always trenchant reaction it is clear that they know that the screenplay is the true star of this movie. I'm so glad that your post is here for me to riff off of. Thanks.

djKENTO

I really want to see how Synecdoche, New York would melt your brains.

Esu

This movie won an Oscar

Todd Rush

I have not watched this movie in YEAAAAAARS. It just devastates me. I love it so much.

Ashton Lewis
>>111996686

Exactly my thoughts. All the cards have been laid out on the table and they can see when those patterns start happening and work through it, rather than drifting apart and resenting eachother like last time. There's clearly a lot of love there, so they're willing to give it a try. The tapes indicate they both have traits that might harm eachother in the future, but they can both feel at this moment that it would hurt more right now to be apart. What a film, can't believe I put it off for so long!