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The Wire: Season 5 - Episode 1 & 2 - Patreon Exclusive (Patreon)

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2023-07-18 12:00:03
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The Wire: Season 5 - Episode 1 & 2 - Patreon Version

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Jay Davis

Okay. Sure. But when are you doing The Wire Season 6? Hmm? Some people call it Rome. I call it The Wire Season 6 but whatever.

MrRuss50
>>113174684

Some people also call it Treme. Personally I call season 6 We Own This City

Jay

Are we ready, professor?

JediLounger

So David Simon fought for each season. Renewal was never guaranteed. The viewer numbers were never high, and the show was never a hit when it was on TV. My understanding is it has done better on demand after the show ended, but I don’t know any hard data.

Professor00

The Season 5 theme was sung by Steve Earle who also plays Bubs’ sponsor in NA. He’s a musician/actor who has had substance abuse problems in real life.

Stu84
>>113175148

The show became big as soon as season 5 ended. Now its considered one of the greatest shows ever.

Stu84

I've been waiting to post this since Season 3, The girl at the rehab meeting in E2 has been in the show since S3. She has only had 3 scenes (1 a season). I fully recommend watching https://youtu.be/mBe9VtBNyFs?t=550 It explains her brief but tragic story.

MrRuss50

Simone loves that Gus gives the reporter credit for catching the story hidden during the council meeting but what makes it even better is that it was Gus that figured out the story but he gave the credit away anyways to his overworked colleague

Jeff K

The actor who plays Gus, Clark Johnson, is also a prolific TV director and, in fact, directed both the pilot and the series finale for The Wire.

Spacedone

Re: your recap of the fate of the kids at the end of S4, the whole message of that season is that the lives of the kids in Baltimore are determined long before they become adults, just as Colvin says to the researcher guy when he first thinks to target his programme at older kids about to become adults, and that it's largely due to politics and everyone covering themselves in order to kept their jobs or their funding rather than going what is needed. Dukie, the most innocent of the kids, loses his support mechanism and, alone and friendless, turns to dealing to survive. Randy has his life ruined by the system (official and gang-related) and gets crushed by it in all the ways he feared. Michael, who is initially shown as the best of them and the one who seems most capable and reluctant to drug dealing, is eventually corrupted and completely subsumed into the drug gang culture. Namond receives an unusual amount of support. This is David Simon adding in a good outcome to show what could happen if the politicians resourced it but it's one that's probably more fictional than the others.

Professor00
>>113180375

He also was on “Homicide” as one of the main cast. That show was also set in Baltimore. It even crossed over with Law and Order a few times over the years. 😊

GDC

The female reporter Alma is the real life wife of the actor who played D'Angelo (Larry Gilliard, Jr.)

Chris
>>113178263

i have a feeling the dead body who who had his neck broken by the paramedics was in early episodes too.

Chris

William Zorzi is a real life reporter for the Baltimore Sun. He's playing himself and wrote a lot of the political stuff in the show.

Chris

Also, spot the oscar and bafta winnning screen writer and oscar and bafta nominated director in this ( same person)

Spacedone

The banter and feeling of the newspaper scenes in this remind me of 'All The President's Men' or to a lesser extent 'Spotlight'. Two great films to watch if you haven't already, BTW.

Jeff K
>>113184585

I was trying to remember who it was and then I was like, oh right! Tom McCarthy (Scott, the reporter) wrote the movie “Spotlight.”

Spacedone

Agatha Christie novels are so bad for using that word George mentions in Sherlock Holmes books. I've been listening to some of her novels on audiobook and I can't help but giggle whenever a character 'ejaculates'. I just imagine the look on the face of the narrator as they read it :D

Jeff K

George I appreciate you *immediately* picking up on the fact that Gus is the newspaper’s version of Lester. Spot on.

Persnickity

In the intro talking about amount of episodes... how did the Simpsons not come up? On camera that's one of George's things

Boyan Konov

While i do think s5 is the weakest overall it still has my favorite exchanges in the whole series. Dukie: “How do you get to the rest of the world, from here?” Dennis: “I wish I knew.”

Jeff K

From episode 2, the editor telling Gus: “I don’t want an amorphous series detailing society’s ills.” I mean, there’s no way that wasn’t Simon taking a subtle shot at HBO, or maybe the broader lack of recognition of The Wire during its run, right? Especially since Gus is the closest thing to a direct mouthpiece for Simon on the entire run of the show.

Kameron Webb

For the next show I'd LOVE to see you react to Ted Lasso. The most Emmy awarded show and very well deserved. It'll make you laugh, cry and just overall feel good. 10/10 masterpiece.

Śéáń

I'm excited for this season mainly due to the fact I remember so little of it (similar to S4, but even more is forgotten) I remember the general premise, like S2's Docklands and S4's School, I know what this season is orbiting around, but other than one scene which I'll mention once it comes up, I'm drawing a major blank, so I get to see it as close to the first time as I'll ever get with The Wire again.

Jeff K
>>113197773

Definitely agree. It would also be a nice palate cleanser from a show this heavy. On a similar note, Cinema Therapy just released a video breaking down some of the mental health stuff in Lasso this morning; highly recommend.

Jay

Why is season 5 only 10 episodes? They didn't get as big a budget, hence all the talk of doing more with less in these episodes.

Jeff K
>>113192564

I don't remember that exchange, but it's great. Season five definitely has some really strong moments, including my single favorite shot in the entire series (it's in the closing montage of the final episode, and I'm guessing everyone who has watched the show knows exactly which shot I'm talking about because it's the most cathartic thing in the entire series, IMO). And yeah, season five is definitely the weakest but that's such a testament to how good the series is, because even a "down" year for The Wire is still better than 99% of all other TV. I also found it interesting how George and Simone immediately got and were more or less on board with the "McNulty invents a serial killer" plot, since that's the "jump the shark" moment for a lot of fans of the show, and a huge part of why some people think it's the weakest season. People thought it broke the reality a little too much but, honestly, is it really that much more unrealistic than Hamsterdam -- an idea/plot that people typically love?

Jay
>>113197279

Never clocked that myself but I'd say you're 100% right. Although to be fair to HBO, I doubt any other network would have let this show get to 5 seasons.

j c

Poor Sergei. After 5 seasons the other characters still call him Boris and even George and Simone still think he's Russian instead of Ukrainian

Daniel Bjork

Fun fact: the girl sharing to open episode 2 is a recurring character. We first see her in season 3 buying drugs for the first time in the free zone. Then in season 4 she goes into Old Face Andre’s store and he flirts with her, then here in season 5 she’s in rehab. Its a mini drug addict story.

Shonnicus

Actor, Tom McCarthy who plays Scott; the reporter you don't like. Is the director of Best Picture winner: Spotlight. Also won best screenplay.

Bennett Holleman

As a former newspaper reporter I can say there has never been a better portrayal of the craft. Also the evacuate joke shows the precision journalists must use when choosing words. They are public servants required to consider moral, ethical and most importantly legal issues in their communication of language. She consults a dictionary to verify the current meaning because words do indeed change over time.

Blacky
>>113240268

I know I'm a bloody French and we have a very different point of view on these things, but that's a point some people do miss. Sure languages do evolve, meaning slip and shift and transform. But that's not an excuse to place the burden of understanding on the people listening to you (even less so when you are selling your words, one way or another). "Oh no biggie, you understood me just fine" is never a good excuse (obviously we're talking native speakers here, for people learning a language it's very different). And journalists especially should not be at the forefront of such a language change, unless it's for a very specific and thought out reason, or to correct a damaging or previously incorrect traditional usage (like removing the n word from casual usage, or properly using pronouns including gender neutral ones). Because being at the very forefront of a language shift has another name: being wrong. And their role is to be understood, and precise. Especially when their outlet can be liable, and when the average customer who buy a newspaper has probably a slightly better vocabulary or hold of the language than the average citizen.

Jay

I'm with you, Simone. As far as I'm concerned, there really isn't another show like this, or maybe there is and I haven't seen it? But all the other heavy hitters you hear about, The Sopranos, Breaking Bad, Mad Men, GOT, Six Feet Under etc, those shows are great and yous would enjoy any of them. But Covid gave me the chance to revisit them. In every other series, there's certain characters, plotlines and in some cases, entire seasons that just lose me. Succession has been recommended here plenty of times. That's another show I'd say is consistently brilliant from episode one right through to the end. The writing, the performances, the characters (seriously, you won't love to hate people more than the Roy family and their associates). But in terms of scope and depth, there is no comparison and that's one area where every other show will come up short against The Wire ("come up short" is actually an understatement). GOT kind of did it, but that was in a fantasy world. It's so much harder to accomplish that in a contemporary setting grounded in realism. It's the only show I've ever watched that once I finished it, I immediately went back to episode one and started again. TV does not get any better than this:)

UNC
>>113258453

I would love for them to react to Succession! Best show I have watched in years!

Gary Fixler

Okay, hear me out... George uploads all their episodes into AI, then feeds it all 7800+ episodes of Sazae-San, and then they can upload a new CinecrAInge: Sazae-San episode every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, filling in their missing days for... 7800 divided by 3 is 2600, divided by 52 is... 50 years.

Dk

Dk

Just because language evolves, doesn't mean a responsible journalist and newspaper shouldn't strive to use the current correct grammar and verbiage. I can see how a novelist or fiction writer should be allowed to use their own flourishes. But an old school newspaper editor like Gus would never let something like that fly. And I think that's great. To strive for professionalism and attention to detail. I don't want my newspaper articles to sound like my friend's facebook posts.

Generators
>>113298536

classic internet hyperbole, go right for the extreme and leave no middle ground. i mean allowing the word Evacuate to mean people as well is hardly the same as "news paper sounds like my friends facebook post". no ones talking about using text msg and meme speak on news paper, all hes saying is that language evolves. and it absolutely does.

George Smith

Although he's only in one season, Gus Haynes is easily in my top five characters from this show.

Dk

Jimmy didn't park that car and forget where. It was a homicide department car.

Hammy

Apologies if this was already posted, but David Simon's "We Own this City" is only 6 episodes with many of the same cast from "The Wire". Tells the story of the rise and fall of the Baltimore Police Department's Gun Trace Task Force and the corruption surrounding it.

dom

man i missed these reactions

Irate Spec

The opening of episode 1 is the prime reason you should never trust the cops. You can't legally lie to them but they can legally lie to you.

Anonymous
>>113701290

that's why we have the right to remain silent. Keep your mouth shut and wait for your lawyer.

Anonymous

"Jeff Bezos made $100 million a day" Unfortunately Bezos doesn't live in Baltimore. That's why cities like NY, LA, Chicago, Dallas, San Fran, don't have budgetary constraints. Poor cities are inhabited by poor people.

Hexon66

The copier lie detector scam was recycled from Homicide, a decade earlier.

Hexon66

Gus, played by Clark Johnson, was a regular on Homicide, which was the network TV predecessor of The Wire. As was Andre Braugher, Ned Beatty, Jon Polito (the VW beetle 'snoop' in The Big Lebowski), Yaphet Kotto, amongst many familiar others.

Hexon66

I think George is confusing evolving language with being willfully ignorant of definition. Either that, or Contrarian George is defeating Pedantic George for the battle over his soul.

Pierce

Gus didnt give credit to Jeff for finding the blurb about Fat Face Rick.. Jeff actually missed it. Gus was the one who noticed it and Jeff said he hadnt stayed that long at the council meeting. Gus just gave him credit because hes a good manager and wanted to boost his people up to the bosses.

Pierce

that wasnt jimmys car.. it was obviously from the police motor pool lol

Thoko

Yes language does change, just like everything else about culture changes, but that doesn't mean that professional writers should have no limits. If you read old stuff that was written hundreds of years ago before there were standards it looks awful. Nobody was sure how a particular word was spelled because every writer made up their own spelling. And capitalisation of words was just chaotic. Random words would have a capital letter for no reason, and both names as well as sentence beginnings would not be capitalised. The point I'm getting at, is that the media is the most influential industry in terms of the use of language, so if you tell the media to have no standards, it won't be long til we're all unable to understand each other, with everyone having a different meaning for their words.

Thoko
>>133899288

Well I would say that Gus did it because Gus is a good person. Gus is also a good manager, but giving your staff credit for work they didn't do is just an act of kindness, and not an act of good leadership. A good manager / leader is looking for the underrated men and women and focuses on boosting them. If you boost people who don't deserve it, then it means that when the day does come to boost the underrated people who deserve it, the bosses won't care because you've made it seem like all your staff are equally great.

Dylan Thomas

The main character of this show is Baltimore. If you view this show through that lense you can see how each season shows another aspect of it all and brings the big picture more into focus. Asking if there is another show like this the only I can think of is Treme also produced by David Simon where New Orleans is the main character even has many of the same actors from the wire.

Ampersander7

I just noticed that there is a "Jay Landsman" in the credits. He is a retired Baltimore homicide detective turned actor, BUT he is not playing himself. He is Lt. Dennis Mello (Bunny's 2nd in command). Landsman the character is played by a different actor.

BlindPanda

one piece is great george dont knock it brotha