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Moneyball (Patreon)

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2023-10-14 12:00:03
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Comments

JakeyShakeyBakeyBoy

The movie that showed Jonah Hill has wonderful range before Wolf of Wall Street and other films, just in case people didn’t realise he did from early on. Brad Pitt and the late great Philip Seymour Hoffman both brilliant as well. Charlie Wilson’s War is an especially great PSH performance worth checking out and Bennett Miller’s “Foxcatcher” is good too

jmundt33a

Charlie Wilson’s War would be a great choices

Deserana12

If you liked this pleaaaaaase watch The Social Network, I’ve begged before and will beg again 😂

FaceMustache

Love that movie. It’s just cozzy. I watched it a billion times at the video store I used to work at.

Jeff K

Ok, so now that they've watched it: I love this movie, I really do. But I can't help but laugh at the fact that they act like it's guys like Chad Bradford and Scott Hatteberg who were the reason the A's were so good that year. They had the best pitching rotation in baseball with Barry Zito, Mark Mulder, and Tim Hudson, as well as that year's American League MVP in Miguel Tejada, and several other stud players like Eric Chavez and Jermaine Dye. Now that that's out of the way... again, I love this movie, and watch it any time it's on TV. It just makes me laugh how they gloss over how stacked the roster really was.

Byron

For more baseball, Major League is a classic. And for a different kind of sportsball: Friday Night Lights (Texas high school football, starring Billy Bob Thornton and others)

David Dotting
>>119789245

I've always felt like even a throwaway line when they're talking about free agents would have helped. Something like "We have one of the best pitching rotations in baseball, and no money to spend on getting runners on base" would have been just enough to acknowledge it without making any changes at all to the rest of the movie.

Jiawei

The real life Art Howe was upset about the movie. He is actually a widely respected manager in baseball, and his conflict with Billy Beane was exaggerated in the movie. In fact, no manager in MLB would defy the GM like this because they're usually hired by the GM. Scott Hatteberg also defended Art Howe and said Howe actually gave him a lot of support.

Ian Hunt

Biggest compliment to this film i can give is that as an Englishman, the only things i know about baseball are from the first Naked Gun movie and the fact its similar to rounders that we played at school, but i still absolutely love it. Funny as hell and surprisingly emotional

Konstantin Elizavetskiy

George, I’m with you on everything you said about Bobby Kotick. Fing hate him, as any decent Russian should. If you are confused, search “CoD No Russian” . Guy spent most of his career promoting hate…

Jiawei

Re: whether players get to decide where they go. Scott Hatteberg was a free agent when Beane approached him. Teams offer a free agent contracts and he can choose where to sign. Once the contact is signed, a team can trade a player (technically the contract) to a different team. Most players don't have a clause in their contract that enables them to reject a trade so they have to accept the trade. It is kinda unfair but is a sacrifice when you can make a lot of money. Some star players can add such a clause when they negotiated the contract. In those cases, they can choose to accept or reject a trade.

Matt Fong

If you liked this I suggest the movie 42

Jeff K
>>119793135

Yeah, the better you are, the more control you have over where you will and won't play. The elite can either negotiate a no-trade clause or say, "You can trade me, but only to one of these specific teams." Also, to clarify for George and Simone: after they traded for Ricardo Rincon and had to make room on the roster, the dude Billy went and talked to wasn't cut or anything, he was just sent down to the minor leagues. Each MLB team has a "farm system" with A, AA, and AAA levels - AAA being the highest - and guys can get called up and sent down throughout the season.

Jeff K
>>119790844

If they did end up watching FNL, I hope they might consider watching the TV series down the line as one of their Patreon exclusives. Such a great show, featuring arguably the best TV marriage ever.

Trevor Rotan

It’s the greatest baseball movie of all time. I got to see that team play before the streak started, the stadium was nearly empty and I was teasing a friend about “Old justice”-he hit in the go ahead run and they won. I guess it was a hint about where this team was going. Years later the A’s had a good mix of the Moneyball philosophy and talent, one guy in particular was one of the best in the league. They were true contenders, but Beane traded that player after the mid point of the season because they weren’t going to be able to afford him once the season was over. The A’s still went to the playoffs, but lost before the World series. I believe if Billy keeps that player, they win the World Series. Instead they had to watch the Cross-bay rivals(Sf giants) win their third title in five years. Still, he’s a great GM, and I love the story.

Rachel W

Moneyball is a beautiful film--for me about the joy and heartbreak of being a sports fan-any sport, not just baseball. And for non baseball fans, the major league in baseball is called the 'the show' or big show--hence his daughter's song lyrics at the end--'just enjoy the show'.

Adam Wetstein

You notice that Mark in the movie is now the Blue Jays president and still being fleeced in trades

Adam Wetstein

The manager is baseball is called the Head coach in most other sports

Cole Viesselman

according to the interwebs Billy was making 1 million for 2002 as the GM of the A's

Happy Hanukkah

Both the movie in general and a specific comment by George in the reaction lead me to once again recommend Margin Call (2011).

BlueTrane

In baseball, a club owns a player's contractual rights. So the player cannot opt to go to a different team until and unless his contract expires and he becomes a free agent. That's how players draft and trade players - they are drafting and trading exclusive rights to the player. The player can choose where to go once they are a free agent (through their agents) assuming they have multiple offers (just like any other job). I am going to resist George's request to explain the rest of baseball, but I really enjoyed this reaction. Thanks guys!

Zero Cochrane

There is a movie called Draft Day about the NFL. It’s a fictional story but it is an interesting look at what goes on behind the scenes, even though I’m sure they took some dramatic liberties.

Skinny_Obelix

There's a lot of things to say about this story. It literally changed baseball and the ripple effect is still going through other sports. Bobby Kotick is such in interesting choice as the use of statistics is not only used to win, but also to make as much money as possible from baseball while spending the least amount of money, basically ruining teams and screwing the fans. To keep the Blizzard theme going, the use of statistics to this degree has done the same thing as what esports did to rts games like starcraft. It caused the met to develop to a level that there's no more room for fun and exciting strategies and it all has become very sterile, with everyone being as efficient as possible. Yes it wins games but at the cost of entertainment. You don't see the low percentage shot succeeding because they don't even try it. I used to work in the backroom staff of a Belgian football (soccer) team and moneyball is very much changing that game, this year one of the biggest clubs in history Ajax applied an all stats approach and they're losing bad right now, just like the movie. Funnily enough it was my job to analyze games and run statistics for my team, but even though I really believe in statistics being able to give you a competitive edge, most sports don't have what baseball has to execute it to that level. Baseball is a binary sport, you hit or you don't, you get to a base or you don't, you hit a home run or you don't. In other sports you don't really have that, it's really hard to come up with a formula that converts a decisive pass that leads to a goal into a number you can compare. So at the moment in football we're in this era where people literally saw this movie and want to implement statistics when it comes to management, even though we don't know how the data translates into results. This is causing quite a few behind the scene wars right now and is the reason why I quit my job. I love this movie, just like George I love competent people doing competent things. And when you let a competent writer like Aaron Sorkin write a script like this it just works. I can't stress enough how much I want people to watch The West Wing, sure just like baseball you might not be interested in US politics, but man is it done well. I mean, A few good men, Moneyball, The social network, The Newsroom, ... There are worse lists.

8bitAndy
>>119791598

Art Howe also wasn't on the last year of his contract that season. That was pure fiction the movie added to create more artificial friction in their relationship.

AshanDaREW

For a different type of Baseball movie, I’d recommend Bull Durham, about the minor leagues, with Kevin Costner, Susan Sarandon and Tim Robbins.

Victor

As far as players not having a say in where they go, generally this is true but superstar players in most sports can have a “no-trade clause” in their contract and dictate what teams they won’t go to..also the redsox used Billy’s method to win a couple of championships (with a much larger payroll then the A’s would ever have)

Jeff K
>>119861510

Oh, they took some MASSIVE liberties. I enjoy the movie, but man, is it unrealistic in terms of how some of the front office stuff would go down.

Rachel W

Little more background--that first game we see with the flag unfurl took place right after 9/11

Dk

Yeah... sports are pretty cool. It's weird to almost purposely not have any interest in them at all.

ra ra rasputin
>>120038316

how did you gleamed "purposely not have any interest". in fact, how does that even work, purposely no interest is an oxymoron.

Jack Koehler

There was a lot of terminology and details that you all had questions about. This is a good rough basic explanation of the game in general for the sake of brevity. Going into detail about some of the drama, Chris Pratt's character's arc involved his injury which meant that he couldn't throw (a necessity for the game). He originally a catcher, which has a high demand for throwing. They moved him to 1st base, which has a low demand for throwing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E160D9rEY0M

MPH

Remember the Titans is a good classic sports movie.

nate coleman

The whole point of what he was trying to do was to even the playing field with poor teams being "organ donors for rich teams". And after he accomplishes that one of the richest teams in baseball comes and tries to buy that too. It would be a betrayal of his own convictions to take the offer.

Zenyaro

While I do not know much about American sports, I know that in most professional sport leagues in Europe, the players very much does have a say in whether they want to move clubs or not. They are in a precarious situation though where if they go against the club's wishes they might stop getting played, and lose value and therefore might miss any change to go somewhere where they might actually get to play and evolve as a player and a person.