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2001: A Space Odyssey - Patreon Version (Patreon)

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Jay Davis

This and The Other Guys (Unrated) in the original Spanish with English subtitles are, by far, my two most favorite Christmas movies.

MotoDork

The question now becomes… do I watch along with blu-Ray or laserdisc?

Jon

... you know what ? I'm gonna re-re-re-re-re-re-re-retry to watch that thing until the end... just because of you, guys :) EDIT : damn.... I did it !… still boring s f%ck 🥵 (some people told me "watch until the end, and you'll see how much it's awesome"..... eumm no, of me it's intellectual masturbation. I’m curious to see this movie, but a version without all the boring parts that took forever for nothing - so you can like cut 1 hour I guess (I’m sure someone did it)… because, technically speaking, it's a great movie, when there's action it's ok, and the story itself is ok, ... so like this, it's could be a nice movie.... ?

Johnny Liu

This film seems somehow both great and terrible for reactions. Great because it is an unconventional and ethereal work of art. But sort of terrible in the way it requires no distractions and little to no talking in between, and full immersion.

Ginger

I was considering upgrading my tier again for the Lego movie - feel like now I really have to. <3 Super excited about this one.

Greymond

Wait, I need a few drinks first...

Cincassette

Can’t wait to watch this tonight after my flight! I always play Johann Strauss’ “An der Schönen Blauen Donau“ at least once when I’m on a plane to evoke the space travel mood of this film.

Elroy

I hood Toy Story gets watched soon such a classic

Elder Lyons
>>124666453

really? i always thought this would be great to do reaction especially because its so easy to talk over it.. since theres nearly no dialogue and every shot in the film is like a minute or longer that ti gives the reactor time to observe, and discuss in full before the next shot appears much less the next scene.

Ginger

Me before watching: "I know tons of references TO this movie but I have no idea how they connect and what they all mean within the context of the movie." Me after watching: "I know tons of references TO this movie but I have no idea how they connect and what they all mean within the context of the movie."

gobmob2000

Having two separate species evolve to have similar features Independent of each other is is actually more likely then you thing. Its called convergent evolution, and it happens right here on Earth. The probability of this happening is also a lot more likely then most people think. Personally I think this is due to the pigeon hole principle in statistics (something a trips a lot of people up when they think the likelihood of something happening). For an example of this look into the birthday paradox. So under my view, Simone's idea is not as unlikely as you think.

gobmob2000

An interesting anecdote about food in space. Back when this film was made, Astronaut food was basically a food paste which is what the film was imitating. There was also a bit of a political movement at the time, due to a unfounded fear that we would not be able to grow enough food due to a lack of farm land, and therefore we would have to become more efficient with our eating, so many people thought this was the future of food. However, over time NASA leaned that having enjoyment in food (as well as other things) was actually important for productivity, it was actually, somewhat paradoxically, less efficient to be more efficient. This accumulated in the Skylab 4 mission, where the astronauts went on strike in space and refused to carry out their orders because they where worked to hard and their mental health was deteriorating. My very long and winding point I am making is that contrary to what Space Odyssey thought space food would be like in the future, NASA spends quite a lot of resources into making space food enjoyable to help the mental health of astronauts. Yes, they are limited by the micro gravity environment, but nevertheless it not just food paste, but actual rice, meat, veg etc.

Prof. Writhms

The 1984 sequel "2010 The Year We Make Contact" (also written by Arthur C. Clarke) is a worthy watch. It also will answer some questions you may have (or will have) about this movie.

MotoDork

“Does this suggest humanity was uplifted by some intelligent species?” 100%

MotoDork
>>124669507

“Why is she walking like that?” At the beginning of the space scenes, Kubrick did a closeup of her shoes, and it was written on the side”grip shoes.”

MotoDork

No, it’s not two different sets fused together. It’s one giant set that rotates.

Orphan Crippler

47 minutes in.. I'm tapping out.. Gl everyone

Jon

... two open questions for everyone who watched the movie for the first time : 1- did you like this movie ? 2- why ?

Monica Alarcon

oh, remember to hit "play" on Echoes by Pink Floyd when you see "Jupiter and Beyond the Infinite"

Spacedone

When George says "Is that supposed to be the Earth?" it's worth remembering that this was made before the first real photos of Earth were taken. The famous picture of Earth, the 'Blue Marble' shot, wasn't taken until 1972. They didn't really have a clear idea what the Earth would look like when seen from space so all the shots of Earth in the film are a bit vague on details.

MD Simmons

Has "life" staring Eddie Murphy ever cross your radar? It's from the 90's.

Jeff I.

I've always thought of 2001 as a great piece of art but a not-so-great movie. I've watched it twice over the years and just couldn't get into it.

Naturekitty5309

I am completely ignorant when it comes to AI, so I have a question maybe someone can answer. I always thought that Hal was innocent because the malfunctions began when he attempts to confide in Dave. He is programmed to be truthful, but has orders to hold back information and this causes the malfunction. My question is, if AI is a learning program, can't the program learn to lie?

Amos T Fairchild

Fortunately there is a book. And several sequels to that book. ;)

Hamesque
>>124676463

Movie/Fiction AI is like all technology, it works the way the story needs it to.

Rileymetal

You should watch CinemaTyler's Videos about the making of 2001 ... they are SUPERB

Monica Alarcon

Low amount of dialogue... opposite of the movie you did before... oooh Clerks is coming!!

REDR58

The music before the first opening graphics (before the more famous “Also sprach Zarathustra”) is what remains of what is called an “Overture.” It was originally about 8-10 minutes long but was severely cut back for broadcast and some home video recordings. Disney’s 1979 “The Black Hole” also had an overture. Basically it’s some music to play while the audience is seated. It’s no longer common, however. Perhaps a dozen or so films since the have had overtures.

jackers

The FUNNIEST thing about that movie for me is that after endless debates about various interpretations of this vague ending and all those talks that "the artist is never suppose to tell you what the art is about, it is for you to interpret it" and so on .... we all know the talk. Decades later somebody dig up an obscure Japanese phone interview with Kubrick where Japanese producer (who, funny enough called the movie "Space Travel 2001" :D) directly asked Stanley what is the meaning of all that ambiguity and trippy ending and Kubrick just casually explained it to the guy. Just like that. Therefore, in a way putting an end to all those countless debates. Anyway I felt disappointed when I learned it so there's a lesson: It's better to leave it for the viewer I guess? Here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaR2pJjL08g

REDR58

The Monolith was originally intended to be what’s called a “Von Neumann probe,” a self-replicating probe. This idea was dropped for the film, however. Also, concerning the 4 spacecraft seen before the Pan American vessel, the original idea was that they were nuclear weapon launching satellites of 4 different countries: 1. US (Air Force) 2. Germany 3. France 4. China Flags can be seen on these satellites if you look closely. Background and preproduction art: https://movies.stackexchange.com/questions/119597/is-there-any-information-about-the-four-spaceships-at-the-beginning-of-2001-a-sp The floating pen was stuck to a rotating piece of clear material with adhesive and the actor just plucked it off. The little girl is Kubrik’s daughter, Vivian Kubrick.

E. D.

I watched the first hour of the movie years ago and I had planned to watch it the next day which I didn´t for some reason, but I´m glad I watched the whole thing with George & Simone. I didn´t expect the last half hour to bo so trippy^^

China Andronicus

If you ever want a fun time, ask Alexa to open the pod bay doors, HAL. I hate Alexa devices after years of reading Ray Bradbury so my dad did that one time in an attempt to bother me and it was both creepy and hilarious.

Martin Nicholls

2001 is interesting as a movie - as a piece of art it is inarguably a god-tier masterpiece, as an entertainment movie it is kinda terrible. It works the first time you watch it but the more you watch it the worse it gets, and absolutely do not watch it later at night because you will, guaranteed, fall asleep and wake up during the credits. I had a little chuckle when George said it was an acid trip, poor sweet innocent George had no clue; literally minutes before it becomes and actual acid trip. Almost every movie Chris Nolan makes is some degree of homage to this movie, but nothing quite like the degree to which Interstellar is an homage to it, at certain points Interstellar is jumping up and down screaming in your face "this is just like 2001, right?" - one of the major differences, entertainingly and completely contrary to the culture is the AI's in Interstellar are actually awesome and not in any way out to murder people, although in TARS' case only 90% honest, which is I suspect higher than HAL's honesty setting. Also, I think the monoliths are supposed to be pure unadulterated inspiration - not unlike how the wormhole in Interstellar is supposed to be pure inspiration.. Oh, last thing - I'm not gonna try to sell you guys on Steve Jobs again, but the Arthur C Clarke clip at the start of that is epic.. If you know you know.

R Harper

Stanley Kubrick explained about the ending of "2001: A Space Odyssey" on a Japanese TV interview From the transcript: JY – Well Japanese people love your films, especially [2001: A Space Odyssey]. But people are wondering what is the meaning of last scene., You know, the old man who [is] lying on the bed, in the house? Could you give us an answer? SK – Well I, I try to avoid doing this ever since the picture came out, because when you just say the ideas they sound foolish, whereas if they’re dramatized one feels it. But I’ll try, the idea was supposed to be that he is taken in by godlike entities; creatures of pure er energy and intelligence with no shape or form and they put him in what I suppose you could describe as a human zoo, to study him. He spends, his whole life from that point on in that room, and he has no sense of time, it just seems to happen, as it does in the film, And they choose this room which is a very inaccurate replica of French architecture, deliberately so. Inaccurate because one was suggesting that they had some idea of something that he might think was pretty but weren’t quite sure, just as we aren’t quite sure about what to do in zoos with animals, to give them what we think is their natural environment. And anyway, when they get finished with him, as happens in so many er myths of all cultures of the world, he is transformed into some kind of super being and sent back to earth, transformed and made into some sort of superman. And we have to only guess what happens when he goes back. It is a pattern of a great deal of mythology. And that is what we were trying to suggest.

Richard

On my first watch back in the day, I thought HAL killed the crew because he went into survival mode. Since he was the only one who knew they were going to meet intelligent life and fear possibly of being obsolete and disconnected. He kept mentioning human error, but it was his error when he underestimated a human that led to his downfall.

Funny That

Was think of posting an answer to the questions that George and Simone were raising, but have to say you both got the answers well enough. Sure, as mentioned in posts above, there is the film 2010 which explains things, but George was bang-on with HAL and Simone saw where the Regency-styled room scene was going. When i first watched it I didn't pick-up as much of what was happening, but from your reaction I think this film moves from something that is great and challenging to just a great movie with an unusual and well told story.

Christopher Feiertag

Delightful reaction as always! The only thing that was more enjoyable than the reaction itself was George’s try to pronounce my last name. To make things easier: should I generously be mentioned in another video in the future, use the english translation of my last name. It’s “holiday”. 😊 Speaking of holidays, I wish the both of you a wonderful holiday season. Best regards from 🇩🇪, Chris

Joanthan Skidmore

2010 is a better 'Movie,' and I can't believe you haven't watched Oblivion, one of Tom Cruises best and Sci-Fi's finest movies, plus the sound track by M83 is to die for.

E. D.
>>124683113

Wouldn´t that change/traumatize him to stay in a room for a long time without contact to other humans? If this was real he´d probably protest and attempt to commit suicide at some point.. but I don´t know, maybe they did something to his brain so he kinda excepted his fate. An other question is why would they care to send him back to earth as a super human.. maybe he is Neo ^^

Odd Thomas

Think I'll settle for the YT edit on this one, lol

Odd Thomas

Another great sci-fi: Sunshine (2007). I'd take that over 2001 any day.

AstralCars

I’ve watched 2001 in a theatre and I’ve also watched it while stoned. Both were awesome experiences in their own way. My next goal is to watch it in a theatre while stoned.

Scott McClintock

Someone should have warned you that the ADHD crowd is going to have a hard time with this one.. hopefully the YT cut gets decent engagement levels. Engagement be damned, though. Even if you don’t get numbers to justify the watch as a reaction, you should still check out 2010 for yourselves to fill in some of the larger blanks left by this film.

punterjoe

2001 was originally released in Cinerama - to special Cinerama theaters. It was a classic Hollywood "Event" film - they usually had 'overtures' as the crowd got seated before the film itself - and intermissions! (Lawrence of Arabia, How the West was Won, and other BIG Hollywood movies - often in 70mm, Todd A-O, or some other 'special' format had overtures, & intermissions to proclaim their ....spectacular-ness. Rbert Wise did the same on the first Star Trek film, but most people I've talked to didn't realize it was an overture and initially thought there was projector trouble!)

Lee

A giant super powered alien ipad arrives on earth. It experiments on an ape colony. It jump starts their evolutionary process. 4 million years later the aliens get ahold of a modern human, put him in a cage, and evolve him into a god. Then he goes back to earth and destroys all the lower order humans. Duh.

Anodyne

Music: Aiso Sprach Zarathustra (Strauss 1896) and The Blue Danube (Strauss 1866). George Lucas yes, Ridley Scott as well. The scene of the shuttle flying across the moon surface is so the interior feel of Alien, and the exterior feel of the flying cars of Blade Runner, not to mention the bedroom scene here and the apartment interior in BR (and the music video to One Night in Bangkok). And the lengthy quiet scenes to establish mood is BR right through to the opening five minutes of... The Blues Brothers. And finally, "Spaceball One - they've gone to plaid!" Edit - Oh, and giving the AI secret instructions that cause it to go haywire - Robocop. (And placing us in the AI's view of the world).

ThePVO

They stopped teaching music in schools I take it

Byron

“2010” is an excellent sequel if you’re interested, thanks for watching the movie, it’s one of my favourites, cheers.

Patrick
>>124697041

That sounds like fun! But I guess I wouldn't be able to show up in sweat pants like I usually do when I go to the movies haha 😅

Sarah

To get SOME of your answers, you will now need to watch the sequel 2010, to get MOST of them, you will need to read all 4 books: 2001, 2010, 2068, and 3001

ExtraBigAssTaco

Originally it was nearly pulled from theaters, but increasing numbers of young adults started showing up to watch the trippy ending on psychedelic substances. This helped boost ticket sales and kept it alive in some markets.

Roxolan
>>124668473

Similar lesson learned in the development of food for the military (MRE and suchlike). The ration has to be reasonably tasty, not just long-lasting and nutritionally complete. Otherwise soldiers just don't eat the whole thing, and so don't get enough calories for peak performance.

Ludovic Ligot

Really glad that you two enjoyed this movie ! Your theories are quite good overall (congratulations), but you should watch 2010 for precise answers.

Fernando Alamán

Terrific job guys!   Not an easy movie to react to in a first time viewing, but I think you were really on point here, in many ways.  Such a pleasure to rewatch 2001 with you both. One of your best reactions this year, for sure.

Ron

Actually, the movie wasn't based on the novel -- they were co-written simultaneously and separately. Kubrick only told Clarke what he wanted him to know and purposely left certain aspects of his screenplay out. (This is why the novel and movie differ.) For more details on the writing and making of the novel, screenplay, and movie, checkout the book, "The Lost Worlds of 2001." It's out of print, so you can only get it digitally for Kindle. It's also available on Internet Archive: https://archive.org/details/lostworldsof20010000arth. You could also just do a Google search. I would like to second the suggestion of watching 2010 which answers many of the questions of 2001. It's also less art movie and more action/thriller making it more accessible to a general audience. Not intended as a diss. I like both movies and own both on blu ray. Peter Hyams did a great job with what is arguably a thankless job in making a sequel to 2001. The cast is also quite good, led by Roy Scheider.

Patrick

An absolute classic! It's funny to think of just how awkward and horrible this movie would be if there was no music.

p0sthum4n
>>124709187

That applies to most movies, to be fair. Have you ever seen the old Star Wars trailers from before the score was complete? It looks terrible. Music adds so much more than most people are cognizant of.

Ludovic Ligot

I would recommend this book : "2001 : Filming the Future" by Piers Bizony. There are several edtions, including an "expanded" (more recent) edition. Tons of technical explanations about the making of 2001, pictures, drawings, etc. A really good book on the subject !

Patrick

I think Hal's approach was 100% out of self-preservation, not the mission. The mission fails if no humans reach the monolith, and it was trying to kill them all once it realized it was going to be essentially "killed" itself.

Patrick

Idk why, but every time I watch this movie, I forget just how horrible the last 25ish mins are. It leaves a bad taste in my mouth for such an amazing movie.

Patrick
>>124666054

I see your point. I love this movie, but you could easily cut out 15mins of scenes that were dragged out for no reason. Even at the end during that wormhole scene or w/e it was, Kubrick could have made it 2mins long and still have the same effect.

Patrick
>>124667502

It happens here on Earth because the species evolve under specific circumstances.

Brent

Love this film! If anyone is interested, they should look up the Jack Kirby comic adaptation! Mind-blowing storytelling and art!! One of my absolute favorite comic books!!! Jack Kirby's and Stanley Kubrick's 2001 A Space Odyssey / Cartoonist Kayfabe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30CWFomMjC0

E. D.

@G&S How do you hear the movie(s) AND each other?

David N

I would like to put forth that it is much easier to make mouth pops if you have recently put on chapstick. Just put your lips together with a little force and make a "P" sound while pushing your lips out.

Jacob King

This was a fun reaction. As soon as George recognised HAL and thought he had the ending sussed I knew we were in for a treat. I do have to agree with Simone about articulating the meaning of highly abstract things. The room seems like an alien’s attempt at a pleasing human habitat. Now that you’ve done 2001, Spielberg’s A.I should be moved up your list. This was a movie conceived by Kubrick but completed by Spielberg after Kubrick’s death. It has a lot of parallels especially in the third act.

Michael Kemmet

George & Simone: Nice job getting so much correct on the first watch-through. I'm seriously impressed. Especially George spotting what went wrong with HAL and why. The only major thing I think you missed was the full purpose of the time jumps in the hotel room. There's a strong implication that the entities that built and control the monoliths are higher-dimensional beings that perceive time the way we perceive the three physical dimensions. We were seeing Dave's mind trying to cope with perceiving all points of his timeline while in the hotel room simultaneously. He spent a lifetime in the hotel room, but he also spent only a moment. The human brain isn't adapted to handle anything close to that. You did correctly catch that either the monoliths, or the beings that created them, advanced Dave to a new level of being, then sent him back to Earth as some type of watcher/ambassador. The other more minor connection that you didn't catch was the similarities between HAL and the monoliths. Both are intelligent tools, built to serve their masters. By extension, it might make you wonder if a monolith could malfunction or choose to defy its creators the way HAL did. There are two things I wish Kubrick had chosen to keep, or been able to keep, in the movie. First were the dimensions of the monoliths. No matter the size, the proportions of the monolith are always 1x4x9. It's a simple way of showing they were built by an intelligence(the proportions are the squares of the first three integers: 1^2, 2^2, 3^2). (And it might not stop at just three dimensions.) The second thing was that the monolith was supposed to have been orbiting Saturn, not Jupiter. This would have added another oddity to HAL's questions to Dave about the mission. The original screenplay was to have had Discovery One's destination switched from Jupiter to Saturn at the last minute due to the direction of the signal beamed from the Tycho monolith. Since the government was still keeping the monolith a secret, the reason given for the change in destination was rather lame. The real reason the destination was shifted back to Jupiter in the movie was because the special effects tech in the late 60's wasn't up to the task of creating a realistic version of Saturn's rings. They did some effects tests, and the results were laughable. Again, fantastic reaction. And now do what millions have done before you and watch it again with some pharmaceutical or plant-based help. ;)

REDR58
>>124706270

The production company on 2010 also did an excellent job of replicating just about all the sets that were used on board Discovery because of course nearly all of the sets and props and even plans were destroyed at the end of 2001’s filming at Kubrik’s insistence.

BangDroid

As you may be aware the theme to this movie is Thus Spoke Zarathustra by Strauss, inspired by a book by Nietzsche of the same name. Here is an excerpt to read in reflection of the film: I teach you the Übermensch. Man is something that shall be overcome. What have you done to overcome him? All beings so far have created something beyond themselves: and you want to be the ebb of that great tide, and would rather go back to the beast than overcome man? What is the ape to man? A laughing-stock or a painful embarrassment. And just the same shall man be to the Übermensch: a laughing-stock or a painful embarrassment. You have made your way from worm to man, and much within you is still worm. Once you were apes, and even yet man is more of an ape than any ape. Even the wisest among you is only a conflict and hybrid of plant and ghost. But do I bid you become ghosts or plants? Behold, I teach you the Übermensch! The Übermensch is the meaning of the earth. Let your will say: The Übermensch shall be the meaning of the earth... Man is a rope stretched between the animal and the Übermensch—a rope over an abyss... What is great in man is that he is a bridge and not a goal: what is lovable in man is that he is an over-going and a going under.

AgentFalcon

I was a bit hesitant to rewatch the full version of this, since I remember it being so long and action-free the first time I saw it back in 2010. I recall liking the experience of it, but was also getting pretty sleepy towards the end. This was amazing though. Having you react and talk about it alongside was great. Lots of cool stuff I didn't catch or think about the first time. Both in the film story, metaphors and just appreciation of how well it was made at the time. So weird how AI was pretty much still just a fantasy thing back in 2010 and these days we can basically just load one up and talk to it like HAL. Also, knowing about the baby, there definitely was a pregnancy sort of thing being implied with the visuals of the white spaceship and the red "fleshy" galaxy thing you commented on. Like a new form of life created by Dave arriving to the alien galaxy/lifeform.

PIG

I'm so glad you guys watched this. It was excellent watching it again with you. There's nothing like it.

Shonnicus

So I'm that person. I Love 2001,all time favorite. Why I became a Kubrick fan and somewhat film nerd. Now do I understand this film. Nope. I have the basics, but what's great is diving into multiple meaning. If we ever get real film nerdy, the film 'Solaris' by Tarkovsky.

Ludovic Ligot
>>124719926

Spielberg's A.I. is a GREAT movie, but neglegted by many people... It's really a "Kubrick + Spielberg" movie in many aspects, making it absolutely unique. George and Simone will cry for sure, but they will thank us...

Ricardo Alanis

I loved that George called it an acid trip just before the colors trip started. I get Kubrick is an artiste but to me the middle section is really the best part of the movie and the end is just bonkers but of course appreciate the film from an artistic standpoint. It also clearly influenced so much especially in sci-fi (the more recent examples are Interstellar and Sunshine to me). I also kept waiting for all the Simpsons references. When Homer wants that massage chair and asks them to turn it to maximum he starts seeing the colors like the end of this film and he also showed up as the space baby at the end of the episode where he goes to space. He was also one of the apes that rubbed the monolith but then just used it as something lean against and sleep.

pedantech

I believe they said HAL models the human brain, only faster. Wouldn't that mean he could develop the same mental disorders that a human could? I wonder if in the future we might have psychologists that specialize in helping AIs with their mental problems. Or would that be a specially trained AI therapist helping other AIs?

Jay

I love this movie. I've no idea what's going on at the end but I don't care, 2001 mesmerizes me from start to finish every time I watch it.

Brendan Rafferty

Trivia: The sentient supercomputer HAL Move each letter in the name HAL forward to the next letter in the alphabet and it spells… IBM In 1968, IBM was the world’s largest computer company

Brendan Rafferty

The answer to what the monolith is… It was an alarm set in place by a super advanced hyper intelligent alien civilization that saw potential in early man. They used it to collect a genetic marker from early man when it was touched four million years ago… and then it was moved and buried on the moon… waiting for man to advance technologically to the point that it could reach the moon and detect and find the monolith by the magnetic waves it was emitting. That is why that high pitched tone went off after it was touched. It recognized the genetic marker it had collected four million years earlier and the alarm was triggered… sending out its signal that man had advanced to the point where we were ready for contact. It was a signal to the aliens that left it there that Earth was ready to meet them.

Patrick

Why is Patreon such dogshit? "Someone replied to your comment." Now click this link that won't send you to the comment and you have to search through all of the comments to find it.

Steve H

2001 a space oddessy

Flerb

I read the book a few times. The monoliths are supposed to be perfectly evolved "von neumann machines" intelligent probes that replicate, evolve, and explore space. They have the proportions of 1 by 4 by 9, the first square numbers, and it suggested the pattern continues into higher dimensions. The parallel in the story is with HAL, a primitive artificial mind claiming to be perfect next to these actual "beings" of perfection. Originally the movie was to be about a book called "childhoods end" but for 1968 was probably too complex to film. Instead, Arthur C Clarke co wrote 2001 with Kubric. But both are themes about transitioning from a primitive species to a greater consciousness, asking the question what's the next evolutionary step for human kind. The end: Dave bowman is collected by the monolith and sent through a stargate where he lives forever in a kind of human zoo pen. The book really spells everything out, yet Kubric went full on minimalist to create an amazing experience. People walked out of the theaters in 1968. In the simpsons homer gets his stargate experience when he sits in the spinemelter 2000 chair his brother buys him in one of the really early seasons. I REALLY recommend watching the 80's sequel called "2010: Odyssey Two" also based on Arthur C Clarkes book. It's way more of a traditional hollywood sci-fi movie.

W T

"basically turning the ship braindead" And here's the connection to Army of the Dead and the very pronounced connections to Peter Jackson and his LotR movies Braindead, as the movie Dead Alive by said director was called in a couple of regions, is amazing in so many ways. Considered the goriest movie ever made, it still manages to be just as fun as it is gross, with some distinct references in their own right... don't even want to spoil any of it, but it's a blast to watch for sure. His other movies, after and before, are pretty sweet too; Bad Taste (again, so fucking gross) is truly great in its own right. Dead Alive though... if you ever need splatter comedy, this is the flick to watch.

Richard

Nice pickup of George, Lucas borrowing some things and the Kubrick pullback shot with the Falcon entering the Death Star.

LT

I could remember this wrong but a fun fact I believe is that James Gunn made the space suits those bright colors in Guardians 3 as a nod to 2001. People assumed it was for Among Us lol.

James Smith

kubrick2001.com does a pretty good job explaining the movie.

Logan Kerlee

Okay, so I've never watched this before. lmao, I'm really digging the intro to the movie. It's wild mysterious. Movies today flat wouldn't work out if they did this. xD Two minutes and fifty seven seconds of black screen to start! SeemsGood I'm pretty sure that the score for this is just that. FUCK! That intro was amazing. Far more impressive than most other films that come to mind. I figured that there wouldn't be loads of dialogue in this. Those are ant eaters and primate man, I believe. That opening stunt with the angry cat.. wow! Damn impressive. GEORGE!! THIS IS NOT TWITTER! xD hahahaha, wow. Love you, man. :P That kitty fucked that zebra up! This film is way ahead of it's time! I am SO impressed by this movie! Holy shit, I'm disappointed with myself for not having seen this before! I knew that it was "an important movie" but I had no clue how brilliant this was! "Hilton Space Station" as well. Surprised neither of you commented on that. lmao, lmao, the music is Por Una Cabeza - I think! Not positive but that's what I think it is. The way that they're illustrating size is very impressive, yeah. DO IIIIT!! xD That shit's hilarious George. This really is cool, the intermission. I'm glad that it's included in the modern versions of the film, as well. I wouldn't have guessed that this would include one! Though, 2 1/2 hours is a long time and back then I'd imagine that this is something crazy in length, considering the amount of total movies. lmao, wow! xD My mom has actual dementia. I'm glad that I can have a sense of humor about all that. hahaha And away he floats forever into the vastness of space. Well, until the body collides with something else. lmao, Simone - that was silly! I HOPE that you're wrong. xD Because that makes zero sense scientifically. Also - I just screenshot what I'm watching on mine vs. what I'm seeing on your reaction and yours is a good bit brighter than mine. Wondering if you're watching another version. HAL's bargaining is creepy as fuck. It makes sense why BOTH characters are doing what they're doing here. HOLY FUCK, WOW!! I'm legit scared right now, listening to that old as fuck robot voice. I did not think that would happen with this movie. lmao, "Is this some Contact shit? Buecause all Contact shit is awesome shit!" roflmao - xDD I'll call my folks tomorrow and ask them if they watched this while high or not and if they'd recommend it. Chances are that they'll say "Yeah, totally!" then laugh for a minute and ask why I'm curious. xD Right there with you on the music Simone! The music is scary stuff for sure. I'm half expecting someone to come at him with a fucking knife! Totally won't happen - I know that - but that's what I'm feeling. Pretty sure the dude with the old hands is just some old man, George. Was he the only character to actually touch it? WELL GOD DAMN. I'M CREEPED OUT BIG FUCKING TIME, WITH THAT END! hahahaha, wow! This movie legit scared me SO MUCH MORE than anything in the Alien franchise ever has. Obviously a different type of scary - but yeah, THIS AFFECTED ME! Kubrick is so friggin' awesome! lmao, wowww!! George I've got nothing better, my guy. I'm in awe over here. Amazing movie! Not one that I'd recommend for a casual viewer though. This is something for the fucking nerdy folks who enjoy sci fi done right. The effects that were used in this are flat AMAZING for it's time. I'm impressed today 55 years after this was originally released. THAT'S DAMN IMPRESSIVE! This was more sci fi/terror, in my book. I mean.. holy fuck. I was so damn freaked out during those scenes! This'll go up on my list of favotie movies, though. Huge thanks to all that voted for this one. :)

Khan1001

Please watch 2010: The Year we made contact (1984), its apparently a really good underrated sequel which nobody talks about, its more of a traditional, easier to follow sci-fi film, its got a stellar cast, Helen Mirren, John Lithgow, Roy Scheider (Jaws) I've only seen clips on youtube and popular youtubers have praised it so might be worth checking out, I'll wait and watch it with you, if and when you get around to it.

Brad Lowry

This may be redundant (I am far from a Sci-Fi maven), but since George says he reads all the comments I won't assume that someone else has posted this: • The technology of a fixed camera to a rotating set – as per the jogging around the spaceship 'wheel' – that was done to capture Fred Astaire dancing on the ceiling effect: https://youtu.be/8n7R61gtSZw?si=-0qxpgfFhCQe6kyb

Zeke

The part of the making of this film that I find impressive is the images on the various computer screens you see through out the film. These are all done by hand drawn animations, computers in 1967 weren't cable of generating the images. Think about how many images of computer screens there are in the movie, and then all of the different gels that had to be drawn and filmed one frame at a time.

Who Are These People

The issue with HAL is that the Council knew the mission was very important, so they included a 'test the human crewmembers psychology' function. David indicated his awareness of HAL's "testing" him, so HAL immediately falsely reported an antenna malfunction. When Earthbase told David their "9-zero-zero-zero" was malfunctioning, that was HAL's intention. What would his crew do if they thought HE was in error? HAL, of course, knew he wasn't in error; he was performing his psychological test as programmed. The humans, understandably, went to "shut down HAL", which HAL knew was the "wrong" conclusion in reference to the antenna situation, so according to programming HAL had to ensure the mission could continue without errors, which in this case appeared to be human. And he was right, in a sense. The humans that programmed him were typically myopic. Any large-scale programming job ends up having conflicting code by humans who don't approach conclusions from the same angle. One human was assigned to code a psychological testing program, another was assigned to organize the priorities of routines so "mission completion" was a non-negotiable requirement whereas "human survival" was optional. This, perversely, predicted yet another modern technology: The HR application exams you find online. They think they're testing the psychological fitness of applicants, but the test designers lack the psychological acumen to grasp that the tests are flawed by design because human psychology is flexible and grows, which a static test cannot measure. This is why AI will always fail (sorry George). AI will only ever be able to perceive reality to the extent people do, and people miss a lot. And even if an AI perceived reality more clearly than humans, we would believe it was in error because we didn't see it ourselves.

Who Are These People

Also, Dave Bowman's colorful light-warp sequence is one of the most intensive film projects of all time. The technique used to produce the effect required the equivalent of 100s of hours of real-time filming compressed into a few minutes of final footage. VFX Artists React did a bit on it: https://youtu.be/Fve5UfKO3U0?si=LINby7vjQfNhYIXO

Khalayx
>>124731408

The idea of them doing Tarkovsky makes me drool, but if we're being honest here Solyaris was in the lower half of his films. If they're going to do him it should be Stalker, Rublev, or Mirror.

Khalayx

On Earth, mankind had to develop tools to evolve. (The bone) In space, tools become increasingly inconvenient - starting right away with the pen floating away from him, the awkward velcro shoes, the toilet that requires a multi-page instruction manual - those beautiful sequences are really stuffed with nonstop examples of this. In the third segment, dependence on tools goes beyond just inconvenience and nearly kills the humans. HAL of course, but also for example Dave's brief time in space vacuum without a helmet. Fourth segment introduces the idea that to truly thrive beyond our planet would require more than just sufficiently sophisticated tools; it would require us to completely evolve beyond the need for them.

Al Karnov
>>124735204

The book actually has a more sensible portion, but I do not think the technology existed in the 60s to film it. He ends up being scanned and then transported to a different solar system or Galaxy.

Andrew Jackson (snabbk..)

The appearance of the closing titles actually getting a shocked laugh is very entertaining. So many questions. I feel like answering with "You want answers?! You can't handle the truth!"

Jim Finley

I saw this in 1972. I was in 9th grade, and was lucky enough to be attending a kind of experimental progressive high school in Albuquerque, New Mexico. They ran it more like a college, combined English, history, civics, and social studies into a single class and gave it enough time for all those subjects, had us do a lot of the curriculum in the form of projects and group games, and so on. I was also able to take calculus and three years of physics. Anyway, the teachers decided we should see 2001, so they got the coaching staff to let them use the smaller of the two gyms, herded us in there, and projected it on a blank wall. I was already into science fiction and loved it, although a lot of my classmates were bored and thought it was dumb and confusing. This was the first Kubrick film I ever saw. The film is based on the novel by Arthur C. Clarke, one of the original three greats of English-language science fiction (the other two were Robert A. Heinlein and Isaac Asimov.) Clarke was an engineer who invented the geosynchronous communication satellite, among other things. He co-wrote the screenplay with Kubrick. Kubrick did build a giant rotating set for the space station where Dave was running - your metaphor of a hamster wheel is funny but dead on. Same for the smaller sets where people's gravity rotated. You were right about the lack of tethers for the astronauts when they were outside the spacecraft, though. That would NEVER happen. For that matter, the small pod would almost certainly be tethered to the main spacecraft too. "I'm sorry, Dave, I can't do that." One of the most chilling lines ever, especially in that flat voice. The entry through the temporarily airless airlock would have worked. A person could survive in a vacuum for at least several seconds, as long as they filled their lungs first and held their breath. Some people consider HAL's death one of the more poignant tragic scenes in cinema. I'd have been conflicted; Dave had to kill him, but it was still killing a friend who'd gone crazy in self-defense. BTW, all the classical music had already been around. The main theme is Richard Strauss's Also Sprach Zarathustra.

Jared Fenton

If you look closely on the spacesuits/backpack, there are thrusters and a directional joystick.

Amelie W
>>125429177

Consider also the development of speech throughout the movie. In the first section there's only screeching communicating aggression, then endless tirades of meaningless formalities, then speech betrays the humans - Hal's decision to kill them is all based on their need to communicate their suspicions about him. And then we transcend language entirely.