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Braveheart - Patreon Version (Patreon)

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2023-12-24 13:00:06
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No Sync Required Version: https://cinebingers.ca/gFv6xX6Vi3 - For Patreon tier "Bingers on The Wall" or higher.

Movie runtime: 2:57:43

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Braveheart - Patreon Version

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Jay Davis

A welcome suprise!

Myles Casey

Legitimately the best reactions; only people I know who make an effort to sync the film with whoever's watching

Martin

YES!

Joe D. MacGuffinstuff

Dude how do guys do that, I was just thinking about that, how have Cinebinge not seen Braveheart yet? I felt like watching it last night but then I felt more Christmassy so I rewatched Krampus lol. Yeah it's not accurate but I would recommend learning about the real William Wallace. Yes, the writer is a descendant of Wallace, but the timelines are completely jumbled for the sake of the story, total Hollywood but I love this movie. But now that you're survived a three hour movie by a first time director who acts in his own movie, Dances With Wolves maybe sometime?

Richard

Hey Now!

PastaDon

🤣🤣"These door's are so loud" Hey, was that a Christopher Walken imitation?? That's who it reminded of.. Apologies if that's not what you were going for.. Merry Xmas.. ok, Bye!!

JoshG

Simone’s hair was curling in front of her neck and for a split second I thought it was a neck tattoo

JediLounger

I saw this in the theater. I was 14, and my brother took me during the Oscar promotion period in February of 1996. It was quite an experience at that age. In terms of historical accuracy, I won’t go into a whole spiel, but it boils down to there was a real person named William Wallace. He was involved in the Scottish war for independence against the English, and he was captured and executed as a war criminal. Everything else has varying degrees of accuracy, but this movie is more about the idea of a man turned into myth rather than reality. In terms of how our society creates stories to inspire people to push beyond their perceived boundaries, I found this movie to be very accurate.

Astraeos

Oh shit. A Christmas Miracle! I vividly remember the first time I saw this as a kid. Such a great movie, even an as a aspiring historian, it's easy to look past the historical errors. Its not supposed to be that kind of movie.

Logan Nelson

Merry Christmas to me lol... This is going to be eeeeppppiiiicccc!!!!

ChickensAreRacist

I think Macaulish (what they were chanting) is maybe(?) her last name.

REDR58
>>125270032

As long as it’s the 4-hour version of Dances With Wolves!

JayF

It's important to remember that history is written by the victors. There are so many references to the idea of prima nocta., if not that exact name for it, it kind of makes me think it was an actual thing. Whether or not it was used in Scotland is another question entirely. https://www.dictionary.com/e/historical-current-events/prima-nocta/

Tay Schumaker

Wildly historically inaccurate but goddamn is it a good movie

Presto2222

The uncle is Brian Cox.

Keerit Thind

Wow. I now feel like a kid who celebrates Christmas. As historically accurate as a Monty Python sketch but a hella good time.

Odd Thomas

Since you're only doing 3 hour movies now, please can we have a reaction to The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo (2011)

Grandalf
>>125276101

Seconded! GWtDT is great! Really glad my ex-wife / bestie talked me into seeing it. ;)

GBmain

Simone: "Horses are so pretty" Me: "Oh my sweet summer child, don't watch this part"

tullius cicero

One of the greatest movies ever made. Or might just be my scottish side talking.

Brent Petty

I always crack up when the prince says "I will stand up to him and more!" then immediately sits down.

Odd Thomas

They made another film about Robert the Bruce (which I've not seen) but it stars the same actor

tullius cicero

I don't think this movie is that dishonest personally. The english have a bigger gripe than the scottish. THe english also have a big gripe with mel gibson because he's made them look like pure evil in both this and the Patriot

JayF

George, the only US movies about Chinese history that I'm aware of take place around WWII. Empire of the Sun and Sand Pebbles for instance.

tullius cicero
>>125282654

because hes a raging catholic lunatic and despises protestants. But still makes damn good movies

Nathan Swapp

As a movie, Braveheart is awesome but Outlaw King is the better historical tale.

Spacedone

At the time this movie is set, the English kings and nobility were basically still 'French' as they were all still the descendents of the Norman invaders or of various kingdoms in France who were considered vassals of the King of France, ruled over large parts of what is now France and still spoke in French rather than the language of the Anglo-Saxons. That was part of the problem that led to centuries of war with France as at that time the English kings were technically oath-sworn vassals of the the Kingdom of France but they had a lot of territory, power and money and at one point had a legitimate claim to be declared King of France too, which started the Hundred Years' War. I recommend listening to David Mitchell's new audiobook Unruly, which makes this totally fucked up period of history very entertaining and basically tells you that almost all Kings were utter bastards.

Tenn Seven

I went to England around 10 years ago and everyone I talked with felt compelled to tell me, unprompted, that Braveheart was historically inaccurate. Like who gives AF? As to the realism of the horse scenes: I remember seeing some behind the scenes footage and they talked about how the (practical) special effects of the horses in battle scenes were so realistic they had animal rights groups taking them to task over them. They ended up releasing footage showing how the scenes were filmed to prove that no animals were harmed during the filming.

Chase Lonnergan

It may be grossly inaccurate... But at least it isn't as OFFENSIVELY inaccurate as 300.

Queen of Farts

Please react to JFK (1991) - the greatest 3 hour historically inaccurate movie of all time! 😂

MoonageDaydream

George you said you wonder what Scottish people think of this movie - I’m Scottish and I love it, as do many other Scots, but there’s certainly your fair share of people here who hate it. I couldn’t care less about the historical inaccuracies, it’s a movie made for entertainment (like Titanic including the Jack and Rose characters/story as you mentioned at the end) so I’ve never seen the big deal about it being inaccurate, personally. If you go into it looking for an educational experience then you’ll be disappointed, but that’s not why it was made lol Also, you should totally both come to Edinburgh. That’s where I’m from, we would welcome you with open arms and a pint 🍻

Shonnicus
>>125282799

I love me Sand Pebbles. Maybe not a reaction worth movie but great. I think this is Steve McQueen's finest performance. Actor Mako was incredible.

Tenn Seven

"...whereas it is more than probable, that could we take off the dark covering of antiquity, and trace [a king's line] to their first rise, that we should find the first of them nothing better than the principal ruffian of some restless gang, whose savage manners or pre-eminence in subtility obtained him the title of chief among plunderers; and who by increasing in power, and extending his depredations, over-awed the quiet and defenceless to purchase their safety by frequent contributions." - Thomas Paine, "Common Sense"

Elder Lyons
>>125286412

lmao oh man in order for this to be as inaccurate as 300, they would have to make the English fight for independence away from Scotland, and that William Wallace was a tyrant while poor ole Longshank was some freedom fighting lord hahaha.

PDP1472

George, the only Hollywood produced historical epic on China I can think of is the Last Emperor(1987). I remember liking it, but I can't remember how faithful it is to reality.

Hi I'm George Junior, but my friends call me Geo-Ju

🖤Simone playing one of those games at a party where you have to describe a movie/show/actor and get someone to guess what it is without saying the name or rhyming the name. She gets "Braveheart" ... Simone: "Its a movie... it has like a speech or something" Teammate: "Independence day?" Simone: "No, not that movie, its a different speech. Its like.... RAWRRRRR" Teammate: "Jurrasic Park?"

Travis

Two absolute bangers back to back and I’m stuck at my relatives😭

Brendan Rafferty

Simone… To answer your question during the torture scene when you asked what they were doing off camera to the lower part of his body with those blades and hooks… they weren’t just disemboweling him as George said… they were also ripping off his genitalia. That was actually documented as part of the torture he really endured. Merry Christmas. Sleep well. 😀

Brendan Rafferty

On the subject of epic historical bio pics… GANDHI (1982) Gandhi needs to be on your watchlist… one of the greatest films ever made and perhaps one of the last great Hollywood epics. It swept the Oscars, winning Best Actor, Best Director, and, of course, Best Picture. Absolutely amazing

djKENTO

Stepped in it now George. Time to watch the old Mad Max. Hahaha. When in private Mel’s old accent slips. You can even hear it slip in Lethal Weapon if you’re listening for it.

Skyruff

My first “shout out” and it’s in the “Braveheart” review! Now that’s an Xmass gift! “Skyruff” pronounced like ‘sk-eye-rough’ the first and true Skyruff and I have the Hotmail account to prove it.

djKENTO

George have you watched the hobbit movies cuz the extended cut of the 3rd film is insanely violent and Peter went for an R rating and got it. Blood all over the place.

FranciscoGios

I found out afterwards that this movie was inaccurate I also agree that as long it’s a great movie it’s fun. As for other Hollywood Chinese films for George & Simone to watch are The Grandmaster (2013) and Jet Lee’s Fearless (2006).

Choi_Yujin_Stan_Account

I think this is an excellent film so I'm glad you did a reaction to it even if I've seen it enough times where I don't enjoy it much anymore...but wanted to take the opportunity to request some films about points in history or historical figures without regard to scale of accuracy from 0-100..ha - The Favourite (2018) - Hidden Figures (2016) - The Impossible (2012) - 12 Years A Slave (2013) - Zero Dark Thirty (2012) - Lincoln (2012) - First Man (2018)

Daniel Gurney

Ok I haven't watched this reaction yet but I have a long night of wrapping ahead of me and I couldn't ask for a better video to play. Ive always loved this movie and I am excited to hear your opinions. Thanks for everything guys. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.

REDR58

Wars have been started and people exterminated because of religion. It’s no small amount of imagination needed to wonder how some religious who claim to act in a God’s name people can be capable of so much cruelty and debauchery towards others.

REDR58

Aside from “Man Without a Face,” every other Mel Gibson film features lots of brutality and violence so don’t go looking for a happy time in his films.

Jacob King
>>125315701

The problem with the “accuracy doesn’t matter if it’s a good movie” argument is that usually once you know the facts it stops being a good movie. There are a few exceptions.

Jacob King

The Green Knight (2021) is an actually pretty good representation of medieval culture and a Christmas movie so I’m going to nominate it for next year and probably watch it tonight instead.

p0sthum4n

As far as historical and medieval epics go, 2005'S KINGDOM OF HEAVEN by Ridley Scott — a spiritual followup to Gladiator, following a man-become-knight and his journey to and adventures within the Kingdom of Jerusalem between the Second and Third Crusades. It has a stellar cast, a beautiful soundtrack, and an almost painterly quality to its cinematography. I've recommended it before and will do so again. It is absolutely critical that you watch the Director's Cut and not the theatrical release if you watch it at all. The version on Amazon Prime includes an intermission, your favorite feature ;)

Grand Moff Slackin'

I prefer to think of this film as wildly accurate. This is the truth England doesn’t want you to know about.

Samuel Bruce

So I think it can be said that Robert the Bruce never betrayed William Wallace, for he barely was involved in the initial war for independence, they did Robert wrong in this movie. If ya want to see a good movie with him, The Outlaw King, starring Chris Pine on Netflix. Although there's another movie on Robert starring the same actor Angus Macfayden, surprisingly a unknown movie.

Brian

When I realize my guy sensibilities are like Simone and not George....

proq

Merry Xmax. My wishlist for 2024 is Gattaca and Equilibrium.

Tim T—

Happy Yule, as William Wallace presumably would have said. I really liked G&S's discussion at the end. I'm in the camp of more historical authenticity instead of legends of popular culture. For some reason it seems important to me to acknowledge that these people were real people who really lived and at least deserve a try to portrait them better than just as a blank canvas for modern writers. It's a value judgement from the gut. George, to answer your question, there is a western-made, great (I think) historical epic about China: The Last Emperor (1987), even won Oscars. I and someone else here already proposed it here, especially for yours and possibly your Dad's reaction. Simone, judging by your tastes in this movie, I think you'll utterly enjoy Ronja Rövardotter (Ronia, The Robber's Daughter, 1984), a Swedish children's movie after the Astrid Lindgren novel with a band of robbers running around in the forest, sometimes naked, horses, trolls, gnomes, no torture, song and dance and it's full of heart. In Scandinavia and central Europe it is one of The Children's Movies, but for some reason it never seemed to took hold in the Anglosphere. Which maybe looks like subtitles. But it's worth it. And a quick recommendation for Rob Roy (1995), the other Scottish historical epic of the 90s.

brian burke
>>125364300

yes i also brought up the last emperor, george said they may get to it later. i like braveheart since i saw it in the theater in 1995. rob roy is also good. i have not heard of the ronja swedish movie, but it sounds interesting. are you from sweden? there are few films and things i am interested from there but seem to be very hard to find in USA where i am.

Patrick

This might be one of the most famous movies that I've somehow never seen.

Mitchell Bowker

OUTLAW KING (2018) is a pretty good movie showing the rest of the story, post Wallace's execution, from the perspective of Robert the Bruce. I would recommend!

Persnickity

I would love to see y;alls reaction to LOTR. Bring some friends. Its more about the commentary than the movie itself.

W T
>>125329705

This is me repeating the (plastered all over) mantra: DC, not theatrical. If there ever was a movie where all audiences agree that theatrical is infinitely inferior, to the point where it is actually called a great movie disguised as garbage, it's Kingdom of Heaven. Doesn't mean it isn't still highly controversial in its own right, as far as historical accuracy and sentiment is concerned, but that can be said of pretty much every movie ever made, so... pointless getting riled up over fictitious stylization and liberal interpretation of a period that we already don't have perfect records of.

W T

If there ever was a PG-13 movie that felt like it was way more than what we think kids can handle, it's LotR, at least in my opinion. Never mind Shelob, or the Dead Marshes, or whatever happens to come to mind... the fight scenes alone are so freaking juicy. I feel like they already got away with so much, we get clean decapitations, knife-licking, bleeding, trolls getting freaking impaled, endless headshots and casual, cold Legolas noscopes - and it seeps through every layer of the movie. The Nazgul stabbing scene right at the beginning and the gnarly fight between the two Wizards and so much more; I almost feel like it would have done the movie a disservice if they went even harder on the violence. It just works so well as is. But I mean, I'll readily Shill Bad Taste and Dead Alive/Braindead by Peter Jackson, if you are into weird, insane, fun, gory comedies (duh), the movies certainly don't disappoint and are incredibly eye-opening as far as the backdrop for his later career is concerned.

Brad Lowry

I know that Simone and George need to spread out the topic material, and I know that Brave Heart was a Bigger Hit... But IMHO, the Better Historically Accurate movie about Scotland from 1995 is "Rob Roy". I am not dumping on Brave Heart, just encouraging everyone to check out "Rob Roy" too. The cast is amazing, Liam Neeson in the titular role with Jessica Lange, Brian Cox, the incredible John Hurt along with Tim Roth who got an Academy Award nomination for Best Supporting Actor. Enjoy!

Rachel W
>>125449370

I'm dumping on Braveheart and Mel Gibson's goofy romance novel hair, cartoonish homophobia and I'll stop there to loudly second the Rob Roy love! Tim Roth gives a performance that is just terrifying.

Logan Kerlee
>>125433697

You're totally spot on with the amount of violence shown in Lord of the Rings! It's just perceived as a more relaxed movie by many because, well, it's Lord of the Rings. Kinda funny, kinda stupid - but hell, if it means more youngsters are watching Lord of the Rings, I'm 100% down with that! hahahaha

Logan Kerlee
>>125405947

100% We've all already watched Lord of the Rings. This is a series of movies that I'm COMPLETELY down to rewatch with them! Lord of the Rings is a movie that you watch with friends, with buddies. You don't get upset when someone comments on something during the movie! Hell, chances are you'll join in with them. xD If someone hasn't, then they should before they watch the full reaction. If they wind up reacting to Lord of the Rings I'd expect them to mention that at the start of the reaction/video on YouTube.

Logan Kerlee
>>125402367

Wow - that's surprising! This is a movie that I first watched shortly after it was released on video. It came out in '95, so I was only 7 at the time. Still, I watched it. I wasn't super into it as a youngster. All the historical bits (though they were false) really just irritated me because I was a kid and wanted more action. :P As an adult, now though, I really enjoyed the movie. :)

Ph4ZeD
>>125316096

Zero Dark Thirty is something I’ve been hoping they’ll watch

Ph4ZeD

Something not mentioned in the comments was that Scotland voluntarily joined with England in 1707 as a unified country after the failure of the Darien scheme nearly bankrupted Scotland

ExtraBigAssTaco

I think that you guys would enjoy another Mel Gibson movie, that incorporates some of the vibes from the heist / organized crime milieu, is Payback. It has an ensemble cast and a mix of dark comedy, action, and drama.

Max Krause

It is a great movie and I love that you checked out that article at the end George. As the History Buff that I am today, the historical inaccuracies bother me a lot, but I can still appreciate it as a good movie. When I first saw it as a kid, much of those didn't bother me because I knew nothing about the place and period besides the Age of Empires 2 tutorial campaign. Medieval Scots wearing Kilts looked right to me. But there was one thing that bothered me even back then: The English costumes. They were just shit. All those dangling scales, rectangles and even circles in some scenes that the English wore where meant to look like medieval armour? I knew that was bullshit even as a child. I had a few books about knights meant for children the age 8+ and that was enough. I mean they had actors wear woolen hoodies that kind of looked like mail in closeups. Why not outfit the extras with that instead of aluminium looking mini plates visible held together by wire? That would have looked way better in wide shots and would have been closer to the truth than what they did. If Braveheart did pique your curiosity about Robert the Bruce, I second The Outlaw King as a much more historically accurate of the events following Braveheart. And it's still an enjoyable movie. Historical accuracy and entertainment are not mutually exclusive.

Wayne Kryka

Edward I (Longshanks) was known as the Hammer of the Scots.

Spawncalibur

People were so bad thinking horses got hurt or killed when this came out and tried to sue or a petition I forget exactly. The extras with making of film is great. Princesa is a bond girl. Patrick McGoohan was the best actor of the entire movie. He did the best job as a evil king. Tommy Flanagan got those scars from a Glasgow smile at a bar. Full on Joker stuff.

Amelie W

Weird how they managed to get all the horse murdering scenes in this movie in 1995 without endangering any animals and in The Hobbit 17 years later they couldn't be bothered. :(