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Casablanca - Patreon Version (Patreon)

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No Sync Required Version: https://cinebingers.ca/E2UNnYE6W3 - For Patreon tier "Bingers on The Wall" or higher.

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Jay Davis

Well... here's lookin' at you, George and Simone.

JakeyShakeyBakeyBoy

Here’s lookin at you Cinebinge. Reference aside this screenplay is easily one of the prototype examples copied for a long time afterward. It’s a romance that plays out somewhat subtly while the plot gets developing to a great build. Also the line “Play It, Sam” is possibly the most widely misquoted movie line in history, as “Play it again, Sam.” They even titled a movie and a play after that haha

Den Radar Ryan

My introduction to this movie was the scene in 'Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles II: The Secret of the Ooze" (1991) when Mikey puts on a fedora hat and does his Huphrey Bogart impression to April before getting pulled into the sewer by the other turtles. 😉🤣📺📼🍿

kbobravo

If this and 12 Angry Men sway you to watch more Hollywood classics, my go-to is always On the Waterfront. Brando's performance is still one of the greatest ever by an actor.

E. D.

@G&S Maybe you wanna try a cool prison break series in the future? longer one: Prison Break (2005 - 2017) 90 episodes (not all seasons are good tho)... shorter one: Escape at Dannemora (2018) 7 episodes, directed by Ben Stiller, based on true events

punterjoe

82 yaes later and this is STILL the best propaganda film ever made. (I mean that as a compliment btw) I won't say much about this film since so many others have said it all better. Just that it really holds up to multiple viewings, and the more you watch, the more you see. I'm so glad you finally had a chance to watch this and understand why so many folks still consider it one of the best films to have come out of Hollywood. It's a Valentine's tradition at the Brattle Theatre in Cambridge, MA and has been since the 1950s. Having seen it, I'm sure you understand why.

David Martin

I saw a colorized version a long time ago. I don't have strong feelings for colorized movies, at least not philosophically, just that they usually look bad. But I seem to remember the dress Ingrid Bergman wore in the Prefect's office as being bright yellow, in contrast to the stark surroundings.

Baron Imhoof

"Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn" came from Gone With the Wind.

REDR58
>>127900102

Colorization is an abomination. That’s my strong feelings about it. 😄

Rhinehold

For older silent movies, you HAVE to do Charlie Chaplin, City Lights is my favorite, but Modern Times is the most well known.

REDR58

Excellent choice of films so happy to see you guys expand on your viewing to older films. Now do an slightly older one, “Citizen Kane” from 1941. Must-watch!

Guillermo Antonio Ricci Alvarez

Older and not silent movies The Maltese Falcon, Robin Hood,Wizard of Oz, It Happened one Night,The Philadelphia Story,Citizen Kane,Gone with the Wind. Silent ones Nosferatu, The Kid, Metropolis

JLee

Gotta recommend The Cine-Files podcast episode on Casablanca. The story of the production and the supporting cast is really cool from what I remember. Also its just a great film podcast in general. Absolutely love this movie. Gotta love Claude Raines and his performance as the despicable Cpt Renault. Also Peter Lorre's short role as Ugarte. Classics.

Brendan Rafferty

The scene where the whole bar drowns out the Germans with the French national anthem still gets me choked up. You have to remember that for the cast and crew when they filmed this scene… and for the movie audiences that watched it when it came out… this was incredibly emotional because France was still occupied at the time.

Brendan Rafferty

This film is NOT a love story, as many film fans have wrongly misinterpreted. This is a film about sacrifice for the cause of the resistance, filmed and released during the war. All the characters are apathetic and selfish… …Until resistance leader Victor Laslo comes to town. This is best summed up when the crooked head of the black market tells Ilsa and Victor to seek out Rick for the letters of transit and even says that he doesn’t know why he is giving them this information for free. All the characters change… the chance to help the resistance shakes them out of their apathy. Even Ilsa and Rick… Ilsa is prepared to leave her husband and stay with Rick just so that Rick will help her husband get out and help the resistance. And, of course, in the end, Rick lets Ilsa go because his needs are not as important as her being there to support her resistance leader husband. Not a love story. A beautiful story of sacrifice for the greater good.

Opti_Frog

I look at Ingrid Bergman the same way George looks at Scarlett Johansson. 😋

REDR58

Romance/drama movie that you guys should watch just popped into my mind, “Flashdance”’from 1983! Completely unlike Casablanca as it’s possible to be, cheesy but fun. It was a surprise hit in the US at the time and a pretty big cultural phenomenon. It’s even referenced in the movie poster for Deadpool 2!

Tony E Crumpton

As for the "rule" that your lead has to be a good guy, I believe you may be conflating the HAYS CODE with the STUDIO SYSTEMS control over the on-screen image of the actors they had under contract. Under these contracts, they told their actors which roles to play, with the actor having very little say in it. The Hays Code was created in the early 30's and is a precursor to the ratings system. It was created to battle the "corrupting values" of the motion picture industry and was voluntarily implemented by the studios to keep the government and the "moral police" off their backs. In it, it was dictated that anyone performing a crime or evil act must get their comeuppance and receive punishment by the end of the film. Before the Hays Code, old films from the 20's had nudity and featured what was seen at the time as unacceptable morals, which included pre-marital sex, homosexuality, prostitution, infidelity, and criminals getting away with their crimes. By the time Casablanca was released, most studios had begun ignoring the Hays Code, since it was all voluntary to begin with.

Baron Imhoof

First silent movie choice: Metropolis (1927). It foreshadows so very much in cinema history, is now in the public domain, and is a major milestone in film. Second choice: City Lights (1931). Charlie Chaplin’s masterpiece takes silent, black & white filmmaking to its peak, and many say the end scene is the finest acted and crafted in history. Also in the public domain. On Casablanca, I was a film studies student in college, and we spent several days on this movie, which is so full of symbolism. Vichy was the name of the puppet government of Nazi-occupied France, so when Louis tossed the Vichy Water in the trash, that symbolized his decision to start supporting the Free French along with Rick. Rick’s cynicism and self-imposed neutrality probably resulted from his time spent fighting against fascism in both Ethiopia and Spain, especially Spain. The Spanish Civil War has been described as a dress rehearsal for the fascist aggression that started World War Two, and Americans who volunteered to fight on the side of the Spanish republic only to see the fascists win had a strong cynical side. After all that fighting, then watching the great Democracies refuse to stand up to Germany and Italy, from Rick’s perspective, the fall of France would have probably made him think, “Yeah, dummies, we’ve been telling you the wolves were coming for you, and you didn’t listen. Screw it, I’m gonna go run a bar.” Rick’s worldview at the the beginning – “I stick my neck out for no one” – and Louis’ compliment on his neutrality as foreign policy also reflected what many in the U.S. had felt before the war: it wasn’t our fight. Rick’s arc, to where he was willing to sell his bar, rejoin the anti-fascist cause, and sacrifice his life if need be, was a very strong message to Americans that, even though we had been attacked by the Japanese, the war against Hitler and the Germans was a worthy fight as well. The scene that illustrates this most is when Rick is questioned by the Germans about how he’d feel if they occupied London, or New York. Keep in mind, this movie was released almost a year after Pearl Harbor and America’s entry in the war, and just as our first big operation against the Germans, the invasion of North Africa and the capture of Casablanca, was taking place.

Michael Kemmet

The symbol on the ring was the Cross of Lorraine. During WW2, it was used as a symbol of Free France and anti-German sentiments. In the movie, it was referenced earlier(very briefly) on a poster for the Free France movement. This isn't a complaint because I know you guys were desperate to add some commentary( for copyright reasons) to a non-stop dialogue movie, but your question about the ring caused you to miss one of my favorite lines in the film: Renault(to waiter): "A bottle of your best champagne, and put it on my bill." Laszlo: "No, Captaine -- please--" Renault: "It is a little game we play -- they put it on my bill -- I tear the bill up. It is very convenient." Claude Rains' delivery of the line is just perfect.

Joe D. MacGuffinstuff

I've only ever seen Bogart with Hepburn in African Queen with Popcorn and it was great, I'm actually excited to watch this super iconic film after work today. Come on four o'clock, a customer is literally watching me text right now so I gotta go 😂

AstralCars

I always considered The Third Man (1949) to be the spiritual successor of Casablanca with its post war cynicism, the “love” story and all the story twists and corruption. It would make a great double feature to Casablanca!

Hans Czajkowski Jørgensen

Two silent movie recommendations: Metropolis (1927) - In a certain light, it might be construed as the first Sci-Fi movie. Its theme certainly was taken up by many movies of that genre. City Lights (19...31?) Charlie Chaplin at his finest. I agree with @Baron Imhoff: That ending scene is something else.

sarCC

WOO-HOO!

REDR58
>>127917344

Captions can help with that. I know some people don’t like captions, but it can really help with missed lines, especially in these movies where people talk quickly and/or over each other.

TGrimace

Watching Simone's face throughout the movie is just amazing. Even when they were singing the French national anthem, there were tears in her eyes. I loved watching someone who was so moved by such a beautiful movie.

Logan Kerlee

I've watched this a few times already. It's been a good number of years, though. I first watched this in my Film as Literature class in high school. lmao, YES GEORGE! More than the Titanic. hahahaha, this has to do with World War 2. This movie's amazing, though! I'm very happy that you're both watching this. :) But yeah, the tagline for this is perfect. There will be some of that, yeah. Much of it is easy to understand though. I hope that you both have a bit of knowledge with World War II, though! if you don't have a small grasp on that history then yeah you'll be in the unknown. This movie's very dialogue heavy, right, George. And information heavy, Simone. Like I said at the start, I first watched this in my Film as Literature class in high school. That's much the strategy for many that live there during war times, George. Living to survive can be the most that most anyone can do. Sam's a true friend! Yes, Simone. There's a certain song that instantly transports me back to when I was with my ex wife. Each time that I hear it, I'm put back to when we were together and happy. I miss that woman and those days. She was amazing. Tarzan is actually a movie that I'd love for you both to react to! lol, well I guess that I can cross that one out. :P I just recently watched it again and really enjoyed the movie! Paladins get all the girls, Geprge. I'd be down if you guys watched a silent film! It would be so great. :) I'll begin the hunt for a good one. a

Brad Lowry

Great Silent Film: King Vidor's "The Crowd" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQOxFFQn1vw There is a way to get a 'taste' of "Birth of a Nation" and not cross the line that I agree with George should not be crossed. Do please react to Spike Lee's "Black Klansman". It really is good, and it stars Denzel Washington's son (could be his clone). Spike includes Birth of a Nation as part of the goings on at KKK Meetings. It also stars Topher Grace as David Duke, quite a departure from That 70's Show and playing himself (an over-rich young celebrity) in Ocean's 11. (Although Topher was unknown and amazing in "Traffic" too.)

Logan Kerlee
>>127926093

One movie that instantly came to mind would be Metropolis! The movie's a pure classic. First made back in 1927, it was THE FIRST sci fi movie ever made. I haven't watched it yet, myself but I'll be watching it here soon. I hope that it can be put on the list of possibilities. :)

AgentFalcon

Loving these old classics and looking forward to more! Highly recommend some Alfred Hitchcock thrillers and can't wait for you to get around to Lawrence of Arabia.

Logan Kerlee
>>127926093

Another movie that's a silent film that I'd like to recommend would be Nosferatu. It's a classic horror film that literally set the bar for films of the sort. It's a German silent film, so thankfully not knowing the German language won't be a problem. I hope that it can also be considered.

Michael Kemmet

Two suggestions for the near future: 1. The Maltese Falcon - some shared cast - Humphrey Bogart(Rick), Sydney Greenstreet(Ferrari - the big guy with the fez), and Peter Lorre(Ugarte - the little guy that originally had the transit papers) 2. Most any modern WB movie - The music for the standard WB logo at the start of most WB movies is a fragment of "As Time Goes By" in reference to Casablanca. (also the music at the end of most WB TV episodes)

Michael Kemmet
>>127917344

Normally agree, but in this particular case it's not the line as written as much as Claude Rains' delivery of it.

Logan Kerlee
>>127898314

I enjoyed Prison Break quite a bit. A bit farfetched but it's still a good watch.

Logan Kerlee
>>127905650

I recommended both Nosferatu and Metropolis down below. I wasn't sure if they were silent films or not, having not watched them before. I totally should have recommended Citizen Kane though! While not being silent, the film set the bar for so many reasons. :)

Michael Kemmet

Another suggestion for an older movie(by only a year) : Citizen Kane(1941). Widely regarded as one of the best films ever made(due to how it advanced directing, cinematography, and non-linear storytelling in movies)

Hans Czajkowski Jørgensen

Not a silent film, I would really like to see you guy's reaction to The Great Dictator (1940). Specifically you two. It would be such a trip :)

Lola Lirola

If you ask Spain, WWII also started in 1936, because our Civil War was basically a test run for Europe. For another WWII movie made *during* the war, try To Be or Not To Be (1942) by Ernst Lubitsch, which is a hilarious screwball comedy that still holds up!

MatthewBrown74m

Casablanca one of my favorite movie ever the greatest classic movie of all time

Lola Lirola

What I know from my brother in law, who is Moroccan, basically what in the movie is set in Casablanca happened actually in Tangiers. Not the romance or the specifics, of course, but it being a neutral zone where many languages were spoken, people of many countries sought refuge, and espionage was the name of the game. Tangiers had been declared an "International Zone", not under the Spanish rule or the French Protectorate, while Casablanca was always under French rule. The problem is, Tangiers ended up being seized and occupied by Spanish forces, and since Franco's dictatorship didn't end until 1975, they wouldn't allow a story of Left Resistance to be set and filmed in there. That's why the setting and shoot were moved to Casablanca. I have been to the bar in Tangiers that was the inspiration for Rick's bar, a tiny place with a piano that was a hub of leftist exiles and international spies. They have a tiny plaque claiming the authenticity.

Miles E Coburn

Great reactions Simone and George! So glad to see you delving into the older / classic movies. Not sure if you picked up on the political / wartime aspects of the film. Various characters mentioned “isolationism” which the U.S. was leaning towards to try to stay out of the war. As well as this dialogue between Rick and Sam – Rick: “If it's December 1941 in Casablanca, what time is it in New York? Sam: “What? My watch stopped.” Rick: “I'd bet they're asleep in New York. I'd bet they're asleep all over America.” And with this bit of dialogue we can pinpoint, approximately, when the story takes place. Sometime between December 1 and December 6, 1941. The U.S. entered the war on December 7, the day Pearl Harbor was attacked. My favorite line from Rick – “Are my eyes really brown?” For a silent film, I would suggest “Metropolis” (1927). If you do, try and use the restored version which has some scenes that have been damaged replaced with work print scenes. The movie is about 2 hours and 33 minutes. Widely regarded as the first Science Fiction / Dystopian Future film.

Bennett Holleman

Buster Keaton's The General is a landmark silent movie plus it's awesome to watch him do all his own stunts.

Haye Zeus

City Lights is my fav Chaplin. Also any Buster Keaton is fun. He’s the og Jackie Chan. Also I’d recommend Duck Soup or His Girl Friday for the talkies. And hey it may be problematic but Gone With The Wind is still an epic that should be watched I think imo.

Odd Thomas

Other classic movies you'd enjoy: The Wizard of Oz Gone With The Wind Vertigo The Red Shoes (1948) High Noon

Terdell Ferguson

Love this film. My favorite (of many) "classics" - for me that's PRE - 1975.

Lola Lirola
>>127897416

I always love when we find good recommendations in unlikely sources! That's why it's important that even fun blockbuster trash has good references 😂

Tim Nicolle

You could also try "Now Voyager" which was made at about the same time and stars two of the same cast

REDR58
>>127917344

Incidentally, the cross of Lorraine is also a rather plot point across the original “Magnum p i” series. Magnum has such a ring.

MatthewBrown74m

Also you two need to watch the artist it's silent film the artist it is awesome

Dazzler & Em

A truly great classic film for the list is "a matter of life and death" Starring David Niven. visually stunning and an incredible film.

Johnny Liu

I appreciate seeing more classics recently. Keep it up!

Kinokind
>>127900102

It is an affront to god and man. In the comedy, "The Big Picture" (1989), aspiring filmmaker Kevin Bacon is sitting in a bar lamenting the state of films. There is a fuzzy black and white TV showing "It's a Wonderful Life" high up behind the bar. Bartender John Cleese is apparently displeased with the state of the TV picture and whacks the TV. The picture resolves into the clearer colorized version, to which he responds "That's better".

Kinokind

See my lengthy description of the real color of Sam's piano in the comments for the Youtube version. Pink!

REDR58

Filming started May 25, 1942 lasting until August 3 1942 at Warner Bros. Studios in Burbank, California and Van Nuys Airport in Los Angeles for the airport scenes. The movie was released on November 26, 1942. Humphrey Bogart (Rick aged “37”) was 43 and Ingrid Bergman was 27. Yes he looks old for his age, smoking as much as people did back then ages one harshly! I also suspect the filmmakers didn’t want people to think that there was a large age difference between the two, so they aged Rick down a little. Parts of the end speech between Rick and Ilsa appear in Pink Floyd’s “Yet Another Movie” song from the “A Momentary Lapse of Reason” from 1987: “You're going on that plane to take you where you belong. But no, I have You have got to listen to me. Do you have any idea what you have to look forward to if you stay here? Nine chances out of ten we both end up in a concentration camp…” Louis looks at the bottle of “Vichy Water” at the airport and dumps it because of cause Vichy France collaborated with the Nazis and he was done collaborating in his own way.

Simon Pegged Me

A Bogart fan, I'd love for you to react to a few more of his films, namely "The Maltese Falcon" and "The Caine Mutiny." George, you might also like "The Treasure of Sierra Madre." The Simpsons parodied it in the episode Three Men and a Comic Book.

Naturekitty5309
>>127923128

Simone's reaction reminded of the part in Pretty Woman when Richard Gere describes a person's first reaction to opera

Naturekitty5309

absolutely, love this reaction. There is something so special about these classics. The acting is just so amazing. I love Claude Rains, every film I have ever seen him in. Should check out Mr. Smith goes to Washington. Jimmy Stewart, Claude Rains great film.

Kinokind

Although it was rare for actors to specify what kind of characters they could play (it was the studio system - they decided what you did) the studios, during the Hayes Office years, were required to adhere to certain moral precepts. You might be surprised to see the amounts of nudity, drug use, prostitution, etc. in pictures from the 20's and 30's before the morality police tightened their grip on the industry. Speaking of the studio system, at Warner Brothers, where Casablanca was made, actors like Bogart, Sydney Greenstreet, and Peter Lorre were all under contract and so appeared in numerous films together. See: "The Maltese Falcon", etc. Lorre's greatest film role was his debut film: "M".

Jon

Short version: Charlie Chaplin's The Great Dictator, like Hans said. Not short version: My favorite black and white era film is Charlie Chaplin's The Great Dictator. Would totally self/solo sponsor a reaction to it/die on the hill of it being funny and given what we know of history now, all of the some melancholy and such. I think it may be one of the earlier "talkie" film, and definitely be older than Casablanca, coming from 1940 by release.

Monica Alarcon

You should react to Mel Brooks' Silent Movie... pretty please

sarCC

Oh, and as far as silent films go, I recommend M, The Cabinet of Dr Caligari, and The General. Oh, and the recent No One Will Save You has almost no dialogue!

Shonnicus

Bogart was great at playing Bogart. A fantastic film and great performances.

Young Blood Priest

I love this movie and I’m glad you guys liked it. I’m still amazed they put all the characters and plot twists in an hour and forty minutes and it doesn’t feel cluttered or messy.

Alex Ch

So actors did generally play to a type under a studio contract, they would almost always play a hero, or a villain or a comic relief. Bogart is somewhat of an exception - he did often play villains as in the classic Desperate Hours. If he did have a niche, it could be said to be morally complicated men - cynical detectives, criminals with codes, cynical rebels.

Eric Brown

If you want to try a silent movie: Sunrise (1927), Nosferatu (1922), Metropolis(1927)--You'll be amazed by the artistry and scope of these three. The General (1926) - Buster Keaton - huge influence on Jackie Chan, and I prefer him to the Chaplin stuff but if you're looking for some Charlie C Stuff these are top of the list: Modern Times (1936), City Lights (1936)

Alex Ch

There’s the Hayes Code, which required studio films to adhere to moral standards in their films - and one of the required standards was that those who do wrong must suffer consequences for their actions.

Alex Ch

If you’re interested in the transition from silent films to talking films, it’s covered well in the classic Singin in the rain. It’s a musical, so you might prefer not to do such a video - but it is often considered the greatest musical ever on critical and industry lists.

Alex Ch

Oh, and for a silent film - perhaps in October the original Universal Dracula would interest people? Or the sci-fi classic Metropolis?

Michael Kemmet
>>127953300

Strong ditto on the Singin' in the Rain(1952) recommendation. It would be tough with the musical numbers, but it's one of the most important films in American cinema. A couple channels have reacted to it, so it's possible.

John Richards
>>127909904

And while it was filmed on a Hollywood back lot, only 4 Americans appear on screen. Virtually everyone singing in that scene WAS a refugee that had been forced from their home by Germany. The emotions and tears were not acting.

John Richards
>>127916029

When the movie was being shot, the US was not yet in the war. As Rick said, America was sleeping.

simon brouillard
>>127920010

Orson Wells is so good in it. Citizen kane is amazing and a lot of people talk about the techic of that movie but Wells is phenomenal, Sunset Boulevard is great and not as old but Lawrence of Arabia is one of the most beautiful movie ever shot. Great reaction again

Grumblefunk

Buster Keaton's "The General" (1926)

Anodyne

After the Germans conquered France in 1940 they occupied and directly ruled the northern half (including Paris) while allowing an 'independent' but truthfully puppet government to rule the southern half (and a number of French overseas possessions). That government based itself in the spa town of Vichy, hence called the Vichy regime. As well as being a tourist destination for the spas, Vichy (the town) bottled and sold the mineral water, like Perrier today. The key question for many French officials after the German occupation was whether to collaborate or not - hence the scene with the bottle at the end. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vichy_France#Collaboration_with_Nazi_Germany

Jared Winn

I’ve seen them a few times already but Maltese Falcon, Singing in the Rain, North by Northwest (or anything Hitchcock) are worth a watch.

Brendan Rafferty

George Yes. Making movies about the war was not only something that was done… but there were tons of movies about the war that came out during the war. Hollywood was pumping out war movies every week

Thirty Year Old Mulberry Field
>>127948100

Yes! Peter Lorre is my favorite little bug-eyed weirdo! His visage alone cemented him in many a song and animated parody but his acting chops is what keeps him an enduring figure for those who venture into older affairs.

Brendan Rafferty

Looking for amazing classic silent films? Nosferatu (1922) horror Metropolis (1927) sci fi Speedy (1928) comedy

Thirty Year Old Mulberry Field

My suggestion for a silent film is “The Passion of Joan of Arc” from 1928. Certainly a bit more of a downer than Chaplin or Buster but the main performance is still lauded as one of the finest in movie history.

Thirty Year Old Mulberry Field
>>127976858

The other thing I’d like to add is if y’all consider silent movies as option note that some films have lost their notated score and have been released with wildly differing scores that can affect personal preference.

Jacob King

Great reaction. Now we can point out why Ilsa's name is Ilsa in the Mission Impossible movies, the meaning of the title of The Usual Suspects and if you watch When Harry Met Sally you'll actually get all the jokes. Casablanca is the gateway drug for getting people into classic Hollywood. It's also a propaganda movie pushing the Americans to enter the war which is why Rick is so neutral on all topics - the Americans were strictly isolationist at the time. Rick has to make a choice, to go fight for the things he truly believes in or allow injustice to continue. Warner Brothers is the left-leaning studio at this point. The choice the Bulgarian girl is making, to sleep with Louis in exchange for visas, is a mirror of Ilsa's choice. Later that night when they cut from Rick and Ilsa in a passionate moment to the searchlight and cut back to the couple having a cigarette and a calm conversation we are supposed to have picked up that Ilsa did sleep with him for the letters. Humphrey Bogart didn't always play the hero. His characters tended toward world-weary and morally grey. It's modern Holllywood that does the rule about actors not losing fights; Vin Diesel and the Rock have contracts that say they cant lose. It's why the fast and the furious lost its way as a franchise. Michael Curtiz also directed The Adventures of Robin Hood (1938) which is the best Robin Hood movie.

Jacob King
>>127976858

The other part of that is for films like Nosferatau and Metropolis whole scenes have been lost for decades and sometimes found. They’ve been remastered. Different versions turn up in different countries. So signalling what you’re watching and where you found it (YouTube links) is super helpful to the audience.

Matt Landon

For me, a good line of demarcation for older films consistently holding up for modern viewers is 1939. There were several all time classics that year which still get regular play today, and remain in the zeitgeist. Of course this is not to say earlier films don't have merit, there are quite a few must see films in the canon from the 30's and earlier, but in general there is more patience required of the viewer, as well as a greater threshold for suspension of disbelief, so there are increasingly diminishing returns from 39' backward. Many of the films that will be suggested from this era represent milestones in particular aspects of filmmaking like editing, photography, production design, mise en scene, special effects, and makeup, but are more important to film history than they are entertaining to current audiences, much less forgiving of their attention spans. I would still say many of these would be great for a well rounded appreciation of early techniques and their place in the lineage, but may not be the best for reactions, and I would be concerned that watching some of these first may sour you, or those who watch along, on early films if you pick a couple of the more challenging ones first. I do have a short list of films I do think hold up well narratively, even to a modern attention span, so I would reccomend taking a look at a few of these before picking among the more challenging or avant garde. From 1939: Mr Smith Goes to Washington, The Wizard of Oz, The Rules of the Game (foreign), Gone with the Wind (might put this on the back burner), Ninotchka Pre 1939: It Happened One Night M *German (watch before you try Lang's silent Metropolis) The Thin Man Duck Soup, et al from Marx Brothers, but start there Frankenstein Bringing Up Baby The Adventures of Robin Hood You Can't Take it with You Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs The Grand Illusion *French Scarface Shanghai Express My Man Godfrey Of these I'd go for "M", The Thin Man, Bringing Up Baby, or It Happened One Night. They're early genre movies (Serial Killer, then Mystery/Comedy, and the final two are RomComs) and those genre forms help them translate better to the present. The Marx Brothers are a must, but try Duck Soup first and then A Night at the Opera and/or A Day at the Races. Silent Era: For these, the comedies hold up best, and I would try at least 1 Chaplin and 1 Keaton Chaplin: Modern Times>City Lights>The Gold Rush>The Kid Buster Keaton: The General>Sherlock Jr.>Steamboat Bill Metropolis *but start with Lang's M before watching The Passion of Joan of Arc and The Cabinet of Dr Caligari are two other classics, but for silent drama, start with Metropolis and decide if you want to go further. And if you do end up covering The Untouchables at some point, it may be good to throw in a short reaction to the Odessa steps sequence from the silent film Battleship Potemkin at the end. De Palma, like Tarantino, likes to lift from or "pay homage to" classic scenes, and this is one everyone learns early in film school for Eisenstein's montage editing technique. In fact, many of these "more important than entertaining" silent films are better in small doses of their more standout elements and classic scenes which are probably already available online for free. P.S. If this is helpful, I can point you in the right direction for the 40's/50's/60's with 1968-1969 being an unofficial start of "modern" film, and things become more clearcut from then on. And feel free if you have any questions.

Matt Landon
>>127950453

Yes, though I've always felt that "M" was the easiest transition into silent film, as Lang still uses silent techniques heavily in it, and it makes a natural lead-in to Metropolis as it's usually the first, if not only, feature-length silent drama that most students see. I would watch those two, then a Chaplin & a Keaton, gauge interest levels in seeing more and go from there, but regardless of how much further you want to delve, a good way to cap/transition from a silent film section is Singin' in the Rain, which also brings you back into the late 40's/early 50's mindset to further explore that period after wrapping up the silent era.

mky

It's always fun/exciting to get to see the first time someone experiences something you've loved for a long time. Like playing a great album for a friend who's never heard of a certain band, but you just know they'll love it. Watching y'all react to Casablanca was wonderful. A couple more classic movies that others may or may not have already recommended: The Maltese Falcon (1941, John Huston) Sunset Boulevard (1950, Billy Wilder) In regards to silent movies (pre-talkies ;), a great place to start would be Charlie Chaplin and/or Buster Keaton... Charlie Chaplin: The Kid (1921) City Lights (1931) Buster Keaton: The General (1926) Steamboat Bill, Jr. (1928) If you want to go deeper into silent film, there are some seminal German Expressionist films, including these two: Metropolis (1927, Fritz Lang) Nosferatu: A Symphony Of Horror (1922, F.W. Murnau) The list of great movies is practically endless. Good times.

Justin James

I'd love to see some Hitchcock on the Channel! "Rear Window" is a must watch!

windyWin

I'm unsure if you've both seen it, but I hope you both get to watch Citizen Kane sometime in the future. :)

mky
>>128008204

Plus "Vertigo", "North by Northwest"...so many!

Eric Santiago

You should take a look at Zeffirelli's films, especially The Taming of the Shrew (1967) and Romeo and Juliet (1968)

Hyperdryve

Another movie you should check out is Homeward Bound Edit: And now that I’m thinking about animal movies Fly Away Home is also pretty good. Free Willy is a classic. So is Babe. I’d love to see a movie poll for animal movies sometime.

John

This was a great watch, It was my first time watching the movie. I recognize this is often referenced. This was heavily referenced in Hot Shots part deux with Topper and Renada which makes much more sense now.

Ron K

So happy that you guys reacted to this. Casablanca has been my favorite movie since the first time I saw it on VHS when I was a teenager. After I bought my own copy I used to watch it, rewind and watch again. Another great Bogart movie is The Maltese Falcon. Double feature idea. Chaplin's Modern Times followed by Robert Downey Jr's Chaplin.

Skyruff

Sabrina… I prefer the remake with Ford.

Skyruff

Silent films.... Wings(1927 war epic first ever best picture/production Oscar winner) or The Kid (1921 Chaplin - no Oscars as they didn't exist yet.)

Naturekitty5309
>>127927024

Great acting, directions, score....love that movie too. I had the pleasure of seeing it in a local theater a couple of years back. Something to see on the big screen.

Paul G
>>128008204

I second “Rear Window.” “Psycho” has also been on a few of their polls, that’s also a must watch.

Paul G

I think I mentioned this back when you watched the John Wick movies but Rick's Cafe is the inspiration for The Continental hotels - a place of neutrality where the only real rule is "leave the war/work at the door." The Casablanca story line in John Wick 3 is an homage to "Casablanca" the movie. I don't have any silent film recommendations but I would love to do a re-watch of "The Wizard of Oz" with you. I know it's been in some of your polls and it's such an important title in the history of film (and yes, for those who care I know it gets credit for things it doesn't actually deserve).

Scott Elsasser

wonderful film, I've wanted to see you two react to this one for a LONG time. Fantastic reaction, thank you for sharing. Older film... try The Thin Man from 1934. More modern silent film... try "Brand Upon the Brain" from 2006. Very odd and interesting silent film from Germany "The Cabinet of Dr Caligari" from 1919. I LOVE what you do!

An Inanimate Fucking Object

If you're going to watch the best old talkies, please please watch The Great Dictator!!! It's Charlies Chaplin in 1940, both hilarious and moving!

Khalayx
>>128399890

Oh I would love an excuse to rewatch that movie. Could be great with these two.

Khalayx
>>128008204

Rear Window is really the GOAT The others people will mention are also good. For reasons I can't quite explain, the way these two loved 12 Angry Men has me thinking they would like Rope - not exactly the first Hitchcock most people think of, but definitely a good one.

Khalayx
>>128399890

Actually I like this idea so much I might just rewatch it on my own today hah

Khalayx
>>127897682

I just commented about Third Man on Departed. I'm not holding my breath but would love it if they somehow did that one.

Khalayx

Maybe because of Simone's disgust, I paid more attention to the Bulgarian woman / Captain Louis / her husband on this rewatch. In the past I sort of wrote this off as a nice scene intended to show Rick's true character when he lets the husband win the money. But it is kind of an interesting foil - she can sleep with the Captain to escape with her husband, and this is immediately followed with scenes of Ilsa telling Rick she will do anything to escape with hers. I don't think the audience is supposed to believe its a sexual thing here, of course, but it maybe prompts the viewer more to question whether her feelings in those scenes are legitimate, or if she is just telling Rick what he wants to hear in order to get the papers. Also it sort of reinforces the odd couple parallels between Rick and Captain Renault. Enough blurb - good one, hope we see more classics in the near future. Every one of these is worth twenty of the "usual" reactions in my book.

Hexon66
>>127982284

I think you may not quite have picked up some of the subtler subtext. I don't think it's a propaganda movie at all. In fact, it's quite cynical about America being a promised land. (Why isn't Rick there, for one?) It isn't strictly film noir, but the universe it inhabits drips with noir-ish elements and false hope of the new world. The fact that the film was being fastidiously monitored and censored by the government at all times helped mold that view.

Hexon66
>>127989068

Definitely second the recommendation of Ninotchka. Best of the bunch, by far. And also, best to put GWTW way, way on the back burner. The klan propaganda might be too much.

Hexon66

Richard Blaine is the quintessential 'anti-hero'. A term that has unfortunately morphed into something else in recent years. (Tony Soprano and Walter White are definitively *not* anti-heroes). He is morally ambiguous and cynical, but at his core and when it counts, he can't help but be noble. Bogart started out playing villains, mostly in Jimmy Cagney and Edward G. Robinson films, but as his career progressed he got more starring roles, playing the hero and anti-hero. He wouldn't necessarily have had a contract where he'd 'win', but the Production Code (Hays Code) would have demanded that criminals be punished or killed, so it's rare to see a Hollywood film from the mid 30s to the mid 60s where the bad guy wins. Long story short, if the lead is the good guy, he's going to win for the most part. It also made the whole relationship of Rick with (even unbeknownst to him) a married woman very tricky for the writers.

Jacob King
>>127982284

It’s trying to provoke Americans into action so it’s definitely not pro America. I bet they’re asleep in New York, I bet they’re asleep all over America. It’s internal propaganda to convince people who think neutrality is the right course of action to support the war effort.

Astraeos
>>127923128

One of the main reasons I keep coming back to this channel. Simone is good people.

Jim Finley

My song is "The Boys of Summer" by Don Henley. It tears me up. As for the timeline, the Nazis took most of France in late spring of 1940, including Paris.

Cliff
>>127989068

Great post, and I agree with the rewards and potential problems you've outlines that come with watching much older films. Love the Chaplin and Keaton suggestions: they have the pacing that's much more like modern film. Personally, out of the very early films, I'd pick F.W Murnau's Sunrise: A Song of Two Humans.

brian burke

i am not that great of a fan of this but my late mother loved this movie. so it makes me think of her. also the hosts asked about songs being so powerful, for me i have a couple but one is ordinary world by duran duran, it really affects me and helped me through difficult times but there are other songs too.

China Andronicus
>>128173292

The Thin Man is fantastic, and Nick and Nora Charles are one of cinema’s greatest couples. Those two actors were so good together that William Powell’s real wife told him once that the greatest thing he ever did was marry Myrna Loy. Caligari is another favorite that so few know anymore. Amazing story and beyond stunning visuals.

China Andronicus

Some great classic films: It Happened One Night (1934) is one of the few films to win the big five at the Oscars. The Adventures of Robin Hood (1938, it also stars Claude Rains who played Captain Renault here) The Thin Man (1934) The Maltese Falcon (1941) A Streetcar Named Desire (1951) Rebel Without A Cause (1955) Lawrence of Arabia (1962) If you’re looking for silent films, Charlie Chaplin’s City Lights (1931) is amazing, as is the film The Cabinet of Doctor Caligari (1920). The latter stars the actor who played Major Strasser here in Casablanca. Definitely also check out Hitchcock, Psycho being I think his best, and for one of the best romcoms ever, William Wyler’s How To Steal A Million starring Audrey Hepburn and Peter O’Toole.

Philipp Roensch

This now was also a first watch for me, and quite a good one. I found it a bit too dramatized, seeing where this was going, Rick's change of heart was late. Fun characters though, very good performances, interesting shots. Could have dared a bit more, but those were the times.