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2001: A Space Odyssey - Full Reaction

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Mike_G

Did you notice that the satellites shown right after the protohuman throws the bone in the air are orbiting nuclear launch platforms from different countries? So, the transition is really from weapon to weapon.

deskmerc

The grip shoes are simple...its Velcro! And indeed, without artificial gravity, you need spin or thrust to generate acceleration and simulate it to any real degree. Production notes give the orbiting space station a diameter of 300 meters, so it would have to rotate at about 1.5 RPM to give you a comfortable quarter gee...although certainly nobody you see on screen actually acts like they are wandering around at .25 gravities. The drink fluids don't slosh around like they would at .25g, and you certainly can't walk normally, grip shoes or not your head would bounce off the ceiling until you got used to it, the easy way to walk would be to glide around, or even use skates. (Now that I think of it, having a "straight" corridor could let someone using skates build up quite a velocity on their own and increase their 'weight" by skating fast spinward...if you go against the spin, you can find yourself hitting the roof again...there are also some problems with using spin for gravity, a small spin radius gives you a sort of "gravity gradient", your head is lighter then it would be on the floor because its closer to the axis of spin, this can make you sick, your inner ear, until you get used it, may not like these feelings as you stand up. This effect would be even more noticable on the Discovery's rotating hub too)

deskmerc

As for the Discovery One, it is indeed a unique design, and, given what we knew at the time, a pretty darned good guess. Its nuclear powered, the original model was supposed to have these larger radiating fins in the aft drive section (the engine pod in the rear is where the reactor lives) but they were removed for aesthetic purposes, and plus, nobody wanted the viewers to think it could fly in atmosphere. You'd want a large radiating surface for your nuclear reactor though. The main drive itself is either ion propulsion or some nuclear VASIMR drive (Variable Specific Impulse Magnetoplasma Rocket) The reactor and engines are mounted so far back as to allow the pods in the middle which probably contain reaction mass (the fuel) which can also act as shielding for the reactor. (Radiate neutrons all you want in any direction but forward where your crew lives) My only gripe about the design is that such a long structure is subject to tidal forces, weird stresses and oscillations can occur on long structures as they orbit a gravity well...near Earth you wouldn't notice this so much, deeps space isn't a problem, but Jupiter has significant mass so you would not want to pilot Discovery too close the Jupiter's Roche limit...fortunately Io and Europe are safely far enough away so that this isn't a problem. (Discovery is primarily designed to accept thrust in one axis, so it will stand compressive forces as the drive is operating. Getting too close to Jupiter will cause the aft end to w2ant to be in a different orbit than the nose, so there is a force trying to pull the ship apart, this increases the closer you get)

Matthew Graves (Graviton)

Um, is it just me or is there no time and date info in this post? Am I missing something? Anyway, I can’t wait to see Bunny’s reactions to this. It’s an almost perfect collaboration of two artistic disciplines: Science fiction thought and writing, and filmmaking, visualization and emotion. It’s truly something special. Two indisputable masters of their art (Clarke and Kubrick) at the height of their abilities. Edit: oh I see. It’s an actual stand alone reaction vid not live stream announcement. I guesss I did misss something. lol. Illl watch and perhaps comment later

John DiGiantomasso

Looking forward to this one! Unfortunately I am traveling, but will do my best to see if Hotel WiFi is any good.

Mike Collins

It makes slightly more sense at the end if you enjoy some edibles first. lol

Dave Riley

I'm glad you picked up on Gary Lockwood. I didn't realize in 1968 it was Mitchell from Star Trek because then Trek was still on NBC so hadn't seen that episode in over two years, and it would still be awhile more before it started it's long run in syndication. Dr. Smyslov on the space station was played by Leonard Rossiter who was a British comedic actor. I thought he was Russian until I saw him in a BBC series called the Fall and Rise of Reginald Perrin. Very funny series that ran for three seasons. Search for it on YouTube if you like. 2001 made a big impact in 1968. The special effects were all model work and matte paintings. It was shot in 70mm and Cinerama which was a process that used a curved screen in theatres. We still didn't know what Earth looked like from space until just after 2001 was released, when Apollo 8 orbited the moon for the first time in December 1968 and photographed the Earth in what was later to be called "The Big Blue Marble." The name of the ship was "Discovery" it's official name XD-1 (X-ray Delta One). Kubrick used real company names in the movie such as Howard Johnson, Hilton Hotels, Bell Telephone, IBM and PanAm. PanAm was an airline that made many internation flights between the US and Europe in particular. At that time the obvious choice of who might offer oribital service was PanAm. I saw it originally in 70mm. Schools used to arrange field trips to the theatre to see the movie during the day. Most theatres ran few matinees so, the theatre would open just for the students. 2001 is the ultimate "It means what you think it means"movie. There is no one right answer. I've fine tuned my own interpretation, over the years. I was only about 15 when I first saw it. With no social media or internet for a very long time yet, the only feedback you could get was from your friends and maybe a newspaper or magazine article about it. Before rewatching 2001 you might want to consider watching 2010 The Year We Make Contact. It is a sequel to 2001 and takes place in 2010 continuing the story.

Edward M. Crowe

Well, I have one question for you, and one comment on further comparisons. At approximately 1:56:30 of your YouTube video, HAL is successfully disabled, and a pre-recorded message from earth comes on behind Dr. David Bowman. It begins as follows: "Good day gentlemen. This is a pre-recorded briefing, made prior to your departure, and which for security reasons, of the highest importance, has been known onboard, during the mission, only by your HAL 9000 computer. Now that you are in Jupiter’s space, and the entire crew is revived, it can be told to you." Further, at approx. 1:47:30 of the video, when HAL is telling Bowman that he can't let him back into the spaceship, HAL states: "This mission is too important for me to allow you to jeopardize it". My question for you Bunny, is: Why would earth confide this information only to a COMPUTER, and not the staff (was HAL intended to fulfil some special role later?), and, more importantly, since we know from this later earth communication that it was HAL that knew the most about the PURPOSE of the mission, what scenarios is it is that HAL might have been thinking about where a living Bowman and 3 crew members might do something that would "JEAPORDIZE the mission"? Would earth prefer that a first contact with a sentient life form ("Close Encounters of a Third Kind"), be made by HAL, rather than Bowman? Did Bowman as the survivor "fulfil the mission"?? Or, what WAS "the mission"?? And, for "further comments": I was waiting for you to reference thematic similarities to the ending scenes of "Interstellar". I see a lot of similarities there! I would agree that "Interstellar" probably did a better job overall. I have not seen the movie "2010: The Year We Make Contact", but I believe it also has elements similar to the ending in "Interstellar"? Looking forward to your analysis of it when we get there!

Matthew Graves (Graviton)

Your reaction was wonderful Bunny. There really is no”answer” to what this story means. But you picked up on the themes. Let them percolate in your head. We humans are small.

Carlos Stevens

ROFLMAO!!! I was 6 years old when I first saw this movie in the theater... It didn't make any sense at all to me either back then. I watched it later when I got older and yeah it made sense. Bunny... did you get chills down your spine when you heard HAL say... "I'm sorry Dave, I can't do that."

Carlos Stevens

LOL...The "Black Screen for a while.." It's called "The Overture." They don't do that for movies any more... It's only about 3 minutes or so. Neither do they do "The Intermission" any more. that'll be about 10 minutes.

Carlos Stevens

sigh... No Bunny... Not the first "murder." More like the first nuclear bomb.

Carlos Stevens

Bunny, do you know that "Pan Am" used to be one of the biggest airlines back in the '60s. I think Delta eventually bought them.

Carlos Stevens

... zero gravity toilets IRL... let's just say it involves a lot of suction.

Carlos Stevens

"The HAL 9000" computer. Did you catch it Bunny? HAL = 1 step ahead of IBM.

Matthew Graves (Graviton)

Jeez it was so wonderful to feel your reaction, can we all agree bunny is a treasure?

Carlos Stevens

Bunny asked the question... "Are we traveling through space... time..." the answer is... Yes.

Carlos Stevens

Bunny, you are correct... Your questions will not be answered. However, SOME of your questions will be answered in the next movie. 2010, The Year We Made Contact. (You better be watching yourself some 2010, The Year We Mad Contact.)

Carlos Stevens

sigh... Bunny... read the book... it will make more sense.

bunnytails

Yup, I have watched it already 😊

bunnytails

I recall Spartacus also had an overture and intermission. I wish they still did intermissions for movies longer than 2 or so hours

William Terry

Thanks I appreciate it! Now I will turn off the lights and listen to "Dark Side off the Moon"🌚

Trilogian

Bunny is a treasure for sure. 2001 is a trip, but it’s one I don’t take too often anymore. I’d rather watch Red Dwarf these days. Huge fan of Kubrick, but grateful not every director takes such an oblique approach. About to watch along to The Slaver Weapon. Yikes!

Scott Phx

Open the pod bay doors, HAL.

John DiGiantomasso

I made it work from my hotel! At the end you asked, "where are we?" It told you... "Beyond the Infinite." Great reaction. Mind blown, just as Kubrik wanted. Clarke's original short story was "The Sentinel." He and Kubrik co-wrote the screenplay based (very) roughly on that. The novel by Clarke is based on the movie and fleshes it out some. Ready to be truly mind blown? This was made in 1968. All real images put on FILM. No CGI. They didn't even have digital editing or frame counts. All cut by hand with razor blades and patched together with tape. Amazing!

bunnytails

Thanks! If there’s a “behind the scenes” out there on this film, I should definitely search it up!

bunnytails

Those are all good questions that I was wondering myself! I wonder if the book goes into more about what the mission was. The main thing I was thinking was that HAL did not think fallible humans could be trusted to carry out the mission, so he by no means could let himself be deactivated.

Edward M. Crowe

Hi Will! Just noticing your comment now. When you say "turn off the lights", do you mean to better watch the Pink Floyd version of the movie? In Bunny's Discord, I posted under "Patreon-General" the link to the version that substitutes "Dark Side of the Moon" for the original orchestral score in the movie. Did you find this version too? Here is the link if that is not what you meant, and you don't have it: https://archive.org/details/2001_20240413. Cheers!