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2010: The Year We Make Contact - Full Reaction (Patreon)

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2025-04-05 18:00:08
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2010: The Year We Make Contact - Full Reaction

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Mike_G

Did you notice Arthur C. Clarke sitting two benches away in the conversation scene in front of the White House?

Mark Chrisco

The new sun was created to warm Europa, nurturing the life there. The monolith was there, patiently waiting to inspire the life there as it did on Earth. Arthur C. Clarke has a cameo sitting on a bench at the White House feeding pigeons. He also appears as the U.S. President on the cover of Time Magazine.

Mike_G

The beings technically aren't doing anything to affect us anymore. The monoliths are computers, of a sort, left behind to nurture life on Earth. The monolith sentinel computer system eventually sees potential in the life developing on Europa and doesn't want us influencing them. Dave and HAL were absorbed into the monolith computer system. They're both computer programs now. Side note, the HAL name was arrived at by shifting one letter to the left in the alphabet from IBM.

William Terry

Thanks bunny for the helpful explanation of the HAL resolution. He didn't necessarily get the short end of the stick in the end. As the sequel it was very good. The cast was better than the average sequel. That really made the movie, more than the Cuban Missile Crisis II subplot. The Soviet woman Tanya was played by Helen Mirren, who is worth checking out in the BBC series Prime Suspect, IMHO.

Matthew Graves (Graviton)

So, I really like this movie. Is it 2001? No. But that’s not really a fair comparison. Kubrick is generally acknowledged as one of the all time masters of filmmaking as a form of art. 2010 can still be a great movie even if it isn’t on the same level. There is still a lot of awe and emotional depth to it. Other than that, I’ll just say that the novels kinda, sorta answer your questions, while raising more and leaving things open for interpretation. One thing I will say is that the point of the new sun is to allow the new life on Europa to flourish, not so much having to do with humans. Other than to, ya know, say “hey humans, your disputes are ridiculously small and petty In the grand scale of the cosmos so maybe get your shit together?” I won’t say more because it would spoil too much for if/when you read Clarkes novels

John DiGiantomasso

Hey. Bunny - nice job! You got the message. A few notes... When they look out the window and Floyd says, "My God! It's gone!" He was referring to the Monolith. Its disappearance is what convinced everybody that they had to leave NOW. If you study astronomy, there are many "binary stars" in space when you have one star orbiting another. You can see them with small telescopes or even good binoculars. So, in our Solar System, scientists have concluded that "Jupiter is just about as big as a planet can get without becoming a star." Stars are all about mass. If you get enough mass, density, gravity, and pressure a fusion reaction will start. And that is what makes it a star. So, if you add a bunch of mass to Jupiter (like geometrically reproducing monoliths) the mass will go over the top and change Jupiter from a large gas-giant planet to a small gas-fusion powered star. One other fact is Jupiter has a LOT of moons. Four really big planet-sized moons (Europa, Io, Ganemede and Callisto) plus a bunch of mid-sized ones and dozens of small ones. Once Jupiter is promoted from planet to star, everything orbiting it is promoted from moon to planet, since they now orbit a star. And... with a local star providing heat and light and radiation, the Ice melts on Europa and the other planets can become habitable (with time and/or effort,) for humans to live on. "Jovian" refers to things related to Jupiter, so in effect the "Jovian System" changes from a planet and moons to a star and planets. It's like a mini Solar System! The Jovian System is "All these worlds..." As for Europa, chlorophyl is evidence of plant life. Melt the ice, provide a nice nearby light source, and plant life goes crazy and starts producing oxygen. Now animal life can evolve there. And the Monolith doesn't want the Earth Apes to mess with the Europa Apes. Prime Directive! Leave them be! 😉 So that is the science (not spoilers) behind it all. I hope that helps! And, Like I said, "Nice job!"

Greg

Your not kidding about Jupiter having a lot of moons either, the current count is 95! And I'm sure more will be found as time passes and more exploring of the planet is done.

Paul Hess

Technically I wonder if all those moons would count as planets. For instance Pluto got demoted from a planet. It's all semantics anyway ... they're fascinating potentially habitable rocks for sure!

John DiGiantomasso

True. The definition of "true" planets include enough mass to force a spherical shape. They could be dwarf planets if they share their orbits with other bodies. And clearly some of the smaller rocky things could be classified as "asteroids" at that point. Hey - is going from a moon to an asteroid considered a "demotion"? I am not well versed in orbital self-esteem psychology!

Paul Hess

Helen Mirren is a wonderful actress with a huge and varied (60+ year) acting career, a dizzying number of awards and honors, and she was knighted (actually, Damed) by Queen Elizabeth in 2003 in recognition of her career. For any Helen Mirren fans, check out Solo episode 2 "Peg" on Amazon prime. It's a short series with each episode showcasing a single top actor in a minimalist "Solo" performance. It's basically a 20 minute science fiction soliloquy brought to life by her incredible acting to infuse personality and interest in the story she tells.

John DiGiantomasso

For me these two films serve two different purposes... 2001 was "A Motion Picture." Cinematic Art. Something to see and be left in wonder and appreciation. Like looking at a classic painting to marvel at the technique and the effect. 2010 was a "Movie" that tells a story. It had a plot, and a script, and real dialogue and everything. It takes that story and expresses it in a very practical way, creating an enjoyable experience and a great sense of satisfaction. You can ask me, "Which do you like better: a Beethoven Sonata or a Calvin and Hobbes book of comic strips?" I would have to say, "I enjoy them both, but for different reasons. Neither detracts from the purpose or enjoyment of the other."

Scott Phx

Bunny, you were on the edge of your seat for parts of this movie. That was cool! lol I enjoyed watching this with you.

Dave Riley

John DiGiantomasso expessed everything perfectly, and I agree, so no need for me to repeat. Yes the film is a worthy successor to 2001. It is not an equal, but I'm willing to bet that director/writer Peter Hyams, would agree nothing could equal the original. They came up with their interpretation. and did a masterful job. After 2001, all the sets were destroyed, so all they had to go with re-creating the Discovery was photos and stills from the orignal movie. I though the sets were very convincing. William Syslvester, original Heywood Floyd, was still alive but his acting filmography ends a couple years earlier, so I guess he was retired. I haven't read the book, I don't know if there was a reason in the story, that Floyd's first wife died, and he had remarried and had a new son. He said his daughter was 17, but in 2001, she appeared to only be 3 or 4 years old, so wouldn't she be about 12 or 13? Keir Dullea hadn't changed at all, so he fit right in and Douglas Rain's voice acting was perfet for HAL. I got to see both movies in the theatre on the big screen, and 2010 looked as great on the big screen as 2001.

bunnytails

I really was! I loved it, and I'm glad you enjoyed it too!

bunnytails

No! I had no idea what he looked like. Very cool!

bunnytails

Interesting! Despite Tatooine having two suns, I never questioned if this was a possibility outside of fiction. But after some quick research, I see it is possible! There are even theories that our solar system once had a second sun.

bunnytails

Wow, thanks for all that info! I feel like I am about to go into a "space science" learning binge.

Carlos Stevens

Sigh... I remember... when I saw this movie in the theater. When HAL was revived.... The entire theater literally cheered for 5 minutes. ... Good Morning Dr. Chandra. It was EPIC!!