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Star Trek: The Next Generation 1x24 "We'll Always Have Paris" - Full Watch-along

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Summer

Smokey the bear voice: only you can decide if what you watch is good. First seasons of most Trek have baggage and Trek fans can obsess over the negative unless the other person is, in that case we say Trek can do no wrong. 😉😹😹 personally I like the more positive but thoughtful reactors, like you. Almost season 2!

Preaching to the Horse's Mouth

A solid S1 episode in my opinion. Nothing super special but decent, a good chance for PS to flex those acting chops. I particularly like the scenes of him in the holodeck, wistful and melancholy thinking about the past.

John DiGiantomasso

For context, "We'll always have Paris" is a famous line from the 1942 classic film Casablanca." An EXCELLENT film I think you'll enjoy (and might even want to watchalong so that us geezers can help with the history and context.)

YungAtHart

Excellent reaction, Bunny. As I am sure others in the comments will point out, the movie Casablanca from the 1940's would be something you should watch. Here's looking at you, Bunny! 😉

Greg

I totally agree about the YT comments, Bunny, they are VERY critical. I think everyone is being too harsh on Season 1. It's not a BAD season, overall -- it wouldn't have gotten renewed if it was crap, after all. It's just that the later seasons were so much BETTER overall that people in hindsight look down on this season and that's not really fair. There's a lot of good episodes, including this one. It seems like from editing your channel the biggest thing they gripe about is plot holes -- and we get it, EVERY episode of TNG has plot holes. As a teen I had a book (can't recall the name or author now) which went into detail on every episode including plot holes, and even then I thought some of them were picky. Actually this episode really had no business being as good as it was, as it was affected by the 1988 Writers Strike. The Wikipedia article on it has some really interesting detail about how the episode was cobbled together: The script was completed a week before the episode was filmed but the writers strike caused further problems when it was discovered during filming that the scene where Data was to fix the time distortions had not been completed. Robert Legato and Rick Berman (producers of the show) spent forty minutes on the telephone with Shearer (the writer) during the strike. While she refused to write the lines during the strike, Berman suggested dialogue and Shearer would give opinions with Legato taking down handwritten notes. Legato decided on the directing notes himself and used a whip pan shot instead of an effects shot to film the three Datas as director Robert Becker had never used effects shots. Shearer was not happy with the final result, saying "we were writing the most romantic episode in the world" but that "it was toned down 75%". Shearer later complained of a lack of chemistry between Michelle Phillips and Patrick Stewart, which Phillips blamed on the conflicted nature of the character in that she was committed to her husband but also wanted to see Picard once more. Michelle Phillips is best known as one of the singers in the 60's group Mamas and Papa's and then went on to have a long successful career in acting. The professor was played by Rod Loomis who has done a lot of film and TV work in his own right. The image of 24th-century Paris was a matte painting which was re-used in Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country, where it was hung outside the office of the Federation president. (Why they decided to have Starfleet Academy in San Fran but the President's Office in Paris, I'm not sure....I guess you could argue that makes Paris the 'Capital' of Earth? Also, with transporters you could easily get around in seconds.) Regarding "A Stitch In Time" -- "A stitch in time saves nine" is a proverb meaning that fixing a small problem immediately prevents it from becoming a much bigger one later, saving significant effort (nine stitches) down the line, originating from sewing where one timely stitch stops a rip from growing larger and requiring many more stitches. It's a saying that you don't hear a lot anymore as sewing itself is more of a niche hobby and not something as common or wideplace now as it was 100 years ago. I agree Patrick Stewart was great here, and it was fun to see a softer side of him and learn more about his background. It's a very interesting 'what if' if he had gone to meet her at the cafe that day. And she is TOO nice to her husband, being in those conditions for so long and then agreeing to go back. I KNOW he promised he'd treat her better, but will he really once the experiments get going again? There's a theory known as the 'Hyperspace Theory' which postulates that for every possible action we can do it actually happens in a parallel universe, meaning there are infinite ones out there. My best guess is the time experiments the professor was doing found a way to get into one of these parallel universes and didn't know about the risk until later. Interesting conversation with Crusher and Troi also, where Crusher says she 'can't compete with a ghost'. More evidence that she actually does really care for the Captain. All in all, a good episode. Maybe not amazing, but it was a fun self contained story that got neatly wrapped up (which not every episode does).

Jim Jones

Trek fans are great until they're not. 😅 We can definitely be overly critical at times. The way I prefer to look at that is we care SO much about this franchise we want it to succeed. The comments, when presented constructively, are an attempt to improve something. Retroactively... 🤷

Desmond

Sorry you're finding the comments more nitpicky and not as enjoyable on TNG, Bunny. All I'll say about that is a lot of us grew up with TNG (and not necessarily TOS), and have been stewing over these "nitpicks" our whole lives. :D But, I have a feeling this will change as we get deeper into the show, to the stronger seasons, and there will be fewer nitpicks. Hopefully!

reply

"time travel" in season 1? already?? How will they top "time travel" in the rest of the seasons?!

John DiGiantomasso

Just finished watching. To help with your discomfort, I don't feel that the duplicates went away. I see it as the hiccup opened a window, not a door. So it's not like the three-second-ago-guys just popped into our dimension - it's just that a window allowed us to see ourselves three seconds ago for a brief moment, then we could no longer see us. As for your sci-fi readings - have you got into Kurt Vonnegut? (Always a personal favorite of mine!) Aliens (Tralfammadorians) in his book Slaughterhouse Five explain ths concept. In this context, the three-second-ago-guys are there, they have always been there, and they will always be there. Every moment exists simultaneously, just in a slightly different location. And as we follow the path of our life we move from location to location, each a different moment, which we perceive as the passage of time. The main character in Slaughterhouse Five doesn't always go from a moment to the next moment - sometimes he jumps to a whole different place and visits other moments in a different place - what we non-Tralfammadorians would ignorantly call "the past" or "the future." Slaughterhouse Five is excellent (and was made into a pretty good movie.) But my favorite Vonnegut has to be "Sirens of Titan."

뱀파이안젤

"TIME Hiccup experiments... dangerous? Nah. Also, he told me to always stay inside an anti-timehiccup 'Safe' Room during experiments" XD Guess Back to the Future trilogy were "lost media" in Picard's starfleet era LOL~

Mark Chrisco

An interesting point is Patrick Stewart was somewhat dissatisfied with how the episode turned out because he felt he lacked romantic chemistry with Michelle Phillips. I guess it's up to the viewer to decide that for themselves.

Jack

At the end of the episode, Riker asks about a cafe. Picard tells him the name of the cafe is "The Blue Parrot," another "Casablanca" reference.

Jack

The old saying, "a stitch in time saves nine" refers to to dealing with a problem early on, when it's small and manageable, rather than letting it grow to the point that it requires much greater measures to solve. The metaphor is a torn piece of clothing -- if a single stitch is applied to a small tear in a timely fashion, it saves having to apply nine stitches later when the tear is much bigger. Picard's old flame is played by the insanely gorgeous Michelle Phillips. She came to prominence in the 70s as a part of a HUGE pop music band at the time, "The Mamas and the Papas" (you might be familiar with the song "California Dreamin"). She later had a long run on a HUGE prime time soap opera in the 80s called "Knot's Landing". She's also the mother of Chynna Phillips, who was big in the 90s for a while as part of the group "Wilson Phillips" (along with the daughter of Brian Wilson of "The Beach Boys" -- man, it's just nepo babies everywhere! 🤣).

Carlos Stevens

OOOOOOFF... this episode hit me hard. For me... it wasn't Paris... It was Spain....Madrid... and If I went, I probably would have married her.

Carlos Stevens

Bunny, Have you ever explored the Myers-Briggs typologies? (I think I've asked you this question before). I've been waiting to bring this up for the first time you juxtaposed Captain Kirk's psychology vs. Captain Picard's. In my humble opinion, Captain Kirk is an ENFP where Captain Picard is an INTJ. The juxtaposition is extroverted intuition vs. introverted intuition. I'm thinking this part of Season 1 TNG is what this comparison is about... Picard vs. Kirk... Introversion vs. Extroversion... yet both intuitive types. The great part is, this happened on accident...not on purpose.

Matthew Graves (Graviton)

Good episode. The time hiccup stuff is a little wonky but interesting. The big thing, as you seemed to pick up on, is that we get some very key insight into Picard's character. Good guest stars and the beginning of making Picard a more "accessible" character. Fun stuff. "We'll always have Paris" is a reference to the movie Casablanca, one of my all time favorite movies (I change my order depending on mood but it's always in my top 5 and I often put it in my number 2 spot after Blade Runner) There's not much similarity plot-wise, but the relationship between Picard and Jenice (not Janice, different blond with a romantic attraction to a captain LOL), parallels the main characters in Casablanca in some ways. In the opening scene Picard is sabre (or "saber") fencing. (There are 3 major divisions of sport fencing in the Western tradition: saber, foil and epee) I studied sabre as an undergrad in college and did some amature competition and coaching for many years. To answer your question, no, not legal. I could write about 10 paragraphs picking the scene apart but in the interest of not boring you to death I'll just point out that you aren't allowed to intentionally make physical contact, use your "off" hand, and you definitely aren't allowed to switch directions during an exchange. Sorry, I'm a bit of a fencing nerd. Anyway, as I said, good episode. Not one that is tremendously memorable but some solid stuff, especially in character building. Fun reaction Bunny, as you know by now, the last two episodes are a bit more.... intense.

Matthew Graves (Graviton)

It can be a fun exercise for conversations, but just be aware that Myers Briggs has been thoroughly debunked as a scientifically valid tool. Apologies if you are already aware.

Preaching to the Horse's Mouth

"It's so real!" "Bien sur, pourqouis pas?" "It's so real!" Translation "Of course, why not/why wouldn't it be?" From the holographic waiter, ha ha get it?😆 Star Trek humour, sometimes so low-key that it just slips right on by😆

Skye Maidstone

I like the time travel stuff. The Picard ex-girlfriend stuff is kinda weird to me since her husband is literally dying or recovering for most of the episode.