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Babylon 5 - 1x9 "DeathWalker" - Full watch-along

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Paul Hess

"You are not ready for immortality" But I'm ready to watch this reaction! Hopefully tonight ...

Trish

Your not ready for immortalitybest line

Emma

The Wind Swords are Minbari, part of the Warrior Caste. The League of Non-Aligned Worlds are all those aliens who sit facing the main council. The 5 main powers each have 1 vote. The League have but one vote. Hence, the votes were 3 against (Narn, Minbari, Centauri), 2 for (Earth, League) and one abstention (Vorlon)

Baulderstone

I don’t speak for the entire B5 fan community, but the Star Trek uniform is fine with me. This is a great episode. You are not an outlier in your opinion. I’ve been looking forward to your opinion on this one. The show has been establishing the setting and characters so far, and now the table is set, it's time to eat. The League of Non-Aligned Worlds is made up of all the aliens on the Council that aren’t seated up front (everyone but the Humans, Narn, Centauri, Minbari and Vorlons). They are part of the Babylon 5 council, but have a lot less power than the major players on the security council. The Wind Swords are the most fanatical clan of the Minbari warrior caste. I am not 100% sure, but I think the Minbari from the pilot that tried to assassinate Kosh and frame Sinclair was a Wind Sword (the “You have a whole in your mind” guy). And speaking of the pilot, you probably have a better idea of why everyone was so worried about the response if Kosh died. And as an aside, I just caught your Spider-Man 2 reaction last night. I'm glad your knowledge of the Evil Dead series allowed you to appreciate just how Raimi-esque that movie get at times. I'm really enjoying this channel, and glad the Youtube algorithm led me here.

fargoboyle .

It's a good episode, Kosh at his mysterious best and a good example of the need for Babylon 5 to keep war from banging on the door. Without the counsel and the ability to negotiate it could have gone pear shaped. The Kosh thing is strange, pure theory but I wonder if he was testing telepaths and whether he could both defend against and identify weaknesses in them, maybe his encounter with Lyta Alexander spooked him in the pilot. Just a theory. Love the bickering between G'Kar and Londo - no opportunity wasted in trying to get one up on each other.

Harry S

This is a good episode! Deathwalker was right, Earth would never hand her over. Once they found out she developed weapons for the Wind Swords tha t could be used against Earth, they would want her to develop vaccines against it. Then weapons.

Emma

Larry DiTillio does a great job with this episode. He creates a moral dilemma and asks the characters and viewers to debate it. The only downside is that he uses a Deus ex Machina to resolve things. In that way, it is self-contained. You could see that much of the A-plot could've been a Star Trek episode.

Emma

There are a couple of blink-and-you 'll-miss-it moments which make more sense in Seasons 3 and 4, so I won't draw attention to them. One of them you would not even spot unless you advance through a scene frame by frame. It is pretty sneaky.

Emma

The CGI work is still improving, but I like what we got with these ships from different races in the League. The Sunhawk from the Drazi Freehold looks threatening, then we have the strange Ipsha vessel and two Vree saucers. Though the rendering is not very detailed, it is nice to note how, as the Vree saucers pace up and down the length of Babylon 5, the gun turret rotates to keep the station in its sights.

Emma

Kosh's words, 'Reflection, Surprise, Terror, ' mirror the three visions that Talia experienced. For the first vision, I always recall Talia's words from Mind War: "Do you know what it's like when telepaths make love, Commander? You drop every defence, and it's all mirrors reflecting each other's feelings deeper and deeper..."

StuArtist Studio

Abbut is definitely a character, alright. In every sense of the word. Fun fact; you can find a recipe to mix a Jovian Sunspot online.

Christopher Lamont Harris

If you like an episode it's your business, and it was a good episode and I totally love your Star Trek uniform

StuArtist Studio

Under those prosthetics, Ambassador Kalika is played by Robin Curtis (the second Saavik from Star Trek III and IV).

apoc9

This is very good episode. I watch it every time on rewatch. In the end she was motivated by revenge and not by desire to redeem herself. Obviously league is similar to European Union - it is bunch of independent nations, who try to deal in united fashion towards bigger powers so they have at least one vote on the council.

George N

Weekly Star Trek-B5 cross-DNA: Ambassador Kalika was Robin Curtis... AKA Saavik from ST3 and ST4! She was really good in this role. She has been good every time I've seen her. I never understood why she never got more work. The windswords are Minbari. The dude from the pilot was a windsword (hence why she quotes his "You have a hole in your mind" line). I'm pretty sure she was wearing the same costume at the start of the episode. The league of non-aligned worlds is exactly what it sounds like; A loose association of independent minor worlds that get a single vote on the B5 council.

Matthew Graves (Graviton)

"That information is on a Need to know basis," "You people always say that shit!" Ahh, Bunny, your frustration is our amusement. :) Very good episode. So far I definitely think B5 is at it's best when diving into this political intrigue type stuff. Some random thoughts: The Narn are very heavily Klingon coded in this one. I'm fascinated by the sound effect overlay used for Kosh's voice. Great makeup for Deathwalker. They must have used some expensive contact lenses to get that effect with her eyes. It's uncanny as all fuck. I like robo-pimphat guy. His voice sounds very familiar though. I'll have to look that actor up. I'm pretty sure you are right about the League being an alliance of everyone who isn't one of the "main 5" political groups. Not a spoiler, I don't have a clear memory of that part, I'm just going off my perception that this whole thing seems like it's clearly meant to be an allegory for the United Nations with Earth, Minbari, Centauri, Narn, and Vorlon being the equivalent of the real world Security Council and the League the analog of the General Assembly. Except that the Vorlons seem to be playing on a different level.

bakamitai

Following up with a historical note. The analogy to the EU is excellent. The pilot episode (The Gathering) aired on Feb. 22, 1993: a little over a year after the Maastricht Treaty (creating the EU) was formally signed, but before it became effective on Nov. 1, 1993.

bakamitai

I like how this episode demonstrates competing philosophical lines of thought, like deontology (duty and moral rules) versus utilitarianism (outcomes and consequences), in simple and emotional terms without being preachy.

Paul Hess

It's a great trick. Populate both sides with characters who have depth and true internal motivations, and then we're forced to think about the issues instead of looking for the villain with the twirling mustache to hate. Of course, in this episode, the person you're supposed to dislike is pretty obvious, and instead the moral dilemma is what type of mirror does it hold up to ourselves?

bakamitai

Precisely. I absolutely adore content that makes me introspect, because it pushes me to be a better person (or reminds me to hold true to the path).

Sebastian Wittmeier

The League of non-aligned worlds mostly are minor powers, or also those stronger ones, not really caring so much about B5 and not contributing (so much) money for the upkeep. The UN General Assembly and Security Council, which is mentioned by other commenters, is a good comparison, but B5 is for diplomacy and has less galaxy-wide jurisdiction. In this case they probably had as Deathwalker was held on B5 (or Earth granted them to vote on her, perhaps they did not have to).

Philip

I knew you'd enjoy this episode, Bunny. And no, you are definitely not in the minority. A great number of Babylon 5 fans rate this episode very highly. And that's not to say they don't do the same with many episodes to follow. Sarah Douglas was excellent as Jha'Dur, playing an even more sinister character than Pamela in "V: The Final Battle" and as Ursa in "Superman II." The crimes against sentients that are mentioned that Jha'Dur and the Dilgar committed are enough to turn one's stomach. And yet we only have to look at Earth's own history of last century for parallels. No spoilers. Just questions (which are best left unanswered on the safe side, even as to whether there is an answer. lol.). It's puzzling how a senator can give Sinclair an order. So far, we've learned very little about the make up of Earth's political system other than that the Earth Alliance presidential ticket (president and vice president) is elected by a popular vote. Lennier tells Sinclair that during the Earth-Minbari War "the Wind Swords came to the (Grey) council with weapons created by this monster. That's when they learned she was with them." Left unsaid was whether the Minbari took Jha'Dur up on her offer. But by this point in the first season, we've seemed to learn enough about the Earth-Minbari War to have a pretty good guess that Minbar was doing just fine without her help. Lennier goes on to say, "We couldn't reveal it then. Like all secrets long kept, we can't bear the shame of admitting it now." Jha'Dur was pretty clear as to how the anti-agapic works when she tells Sinclair near the end of the episode: "The key ingredient in the anti-agapic cannot be synthesized. It must be taken from living beings. For one to live forever, another one must die. You will fall upon one another like wolves. It will make what we did pale by comparison. The billions who live will be a testimony to my work. And the billions who are murdered to buy that immortality will be the continuance of my work. Not like us? You will become us." That's enough to send chills up the spine when you think about it. Such evil!

Philip

And Bunny, btw, there's absolutely nothing wrong with seeing you in a Star Trek uniform! We need a petition going to get you into a ST fan film! I'm really enjoying your Babylon 5 reactions. It makes me want the week to speed up so I can watch the next one! It was probably time for me to do a whole re-watch from the beginning but it's way more enjoyable following along as you watch the series for the first time. I hope you can later soon do a reaction to the upcoming ST fan film "Axanar: The Gathering Storm," which is due to be premiered at San Diego's Comic Con on July 26 and likely released on YouTube immediately thereafter. But hopefully you'll start with reactions to those four before it. And I don't think there are many reactors, if any, who have done reactions to the Axanar films. And once it is released at Comic Con (finally a decade of all the legal battles and compromises with CBS), it's sure to be a highly sought-after fan film on YouTube. Since it premiered 11 years ago, "Prelude to Axanar" has racked in over six million views from just one of the YouTube postings of it , not counting the other films in the series or re-posts of the original. There have been four short films in the Axanar series so far: "Prelude to Axanar," then "Vulcan Scene", next "Interlude" and finally "The Icarus Maneuver." All together, they take up less time than a normal featured film. So you could do them all at once in one sitting or separately (and cruelly keep us in suspense until you do the next one. lol). I know you really enjoyed the fan series "Star Trek Continues", as did I. So, I promise, you'll enjoy Axanar as well. I wouldn't be surprised if you can get an interview with Alec Peters like you did with Vic Mignogna of Star Trek Continues. If you don't know by now, the Axanar series follows the career of Captain Garth (TOS: "Whom Gods Destroy.") It has great acting (including some familiar faces; won't tell you who though) and great production values. It's a fan film series set in the Star Trek universe prior to TOS: season one. So there's no spoilers to worry about. There have been four short films so far: "Prelude to Axanar," then "Vulcan Scene", next "Interlude" and finally "The Icarus Maneuver." All together, they take up less time than a normal featured film. So you could do them all at once in one sitting or separately (and cruelly keep us in suspense until you do the next one. lol). I know you really enjoyed the fan series "Star Trek Continues", as did I. So, I promise, you'll enjoy Axanar as well. I wouldn't be surprised if you can get later get an interview with Alec Peters like you did with Vic Mignogna of Star Trek Continues. If you don't know by now, the Axanar series follows the career of Captain Garth (TOS: "Whom Gods Destroy.") It has great acting (including some familiar faces; won't tell you who though) and great production values. It's a fan film series set in the Star Trek universe prior to TOS: season one. So there's no spoilers to worry about.

Mark Gosine

Hugh, didn't even recognize her.

Mark Gosine

Wow, there is really an Axanar happening? Too bad Hatch passed.

Mark Gosine

Well written. As Baulderstone says, the table is set. Awesome feast to come. Let the puzzle pieces lock in place. We got the puzzle frame/edges in place, time to fill the rest.

Emma

Only 101 episodes and the puzzle will be complete.

Philip

Yeah, that was sad. Enjoyed him in the original BSG and in the final season of The Streets of San Francisco. I told him at a convention one time that I just couldn't watch the re-imagined series of BSG without the original cast. He replied that many fans had told him the same thing.

Greg

Another episode that I liked but feel like I'll understand more later on once some of the major events that these episodes are setting up actually happen. I like stand alone episodes a lot also and while B5 has had some already, sure, not as many as Doctor Who, Star Trek, or other sci-fi shows.

Jack

Also, Jha'Dur/Deathwalker was played by Sarah Douglas, who played Ursa (one of General Zod's henchmen (henchwoman? henchperson?) in Superman II (1980).

Jack

Great episode, but one part of it really perturbs me. B5 is supposed to be a sort of League of Nations / United Nations in space, where the different worlds who belong to the League have diplomats to negotiate and iron out disputes. Yet the first time something doesn't go the way some of them want it, they send *warships* to threaten the station and everyone on it. It always bugged me that that wasn't treated like the big deal it clearly was. Sinclair hammers out his little deal for the serum and I guess all is forgiven. I guess we'll just forget that you guys undermined the entire purpose of the station and threatened to murder a quarter of a million people over a disagreement about the handling of a single prisoner. Whoopsie! Bygones, amirite? I dunno, it just seems like there should be some repercussions for that. At the very least, the other governments should be super duper pissed about it. Is it just me?

Baulderstone

POTENTIAL SPOILER IN YOUR POST: I think talking about whether or not an episode has future repercussions is the kind of thing Bunny doesn't want to hear. You might want to take that to the spolier thread on Discord.

Jack

I think you need to read more carefully. There is nothing spoilery in my post. My point was about THIS episode, and how they don't seem to take the situation in THIS episode nearly as seriously as they should. Who exactly do you think you are, anyway?

Lola Felicia

"understanding is a three-edged sword" hehehehehe As for the League, this isn't a spoiler at all. Basically, there are 5 very strong races (Humans, Minbari, Centauri, Narn and Vorlons). There are quite a number of less powerful species. It's very analogous to the way the United Nations works, with the security council having veto powers over the "lesser" members. and again.... hehehehehehe ;)