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BTS- Suchwita - Jungkook. We address The Patrons. (Patreon)

Published:
2024-11-07 08:50:05
Imported:
2026-06
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BTS

Content

Due to backlash on wanting us to "keep it real" we are opening the real to test the water.

Files

bts - suchwita - JK.mkv

Comments

Gladeez (Gladys)

Hi Jody !! Haven’t watched it yet but I’m excited reading the caption you put, let’s see what you guys say ! 💜💜

Po

Luv Suga💚

Nicole♡♡

I loved this video and the realness!! I didn't really like kion in the beginning because i didn't understand the way he talks and thought it was rude but ig is because I'm not from the us and i learned "proper" English at school but now im getting what he says

Nicole♡♡

About sugas parents they made up for a moment now😌 the first time they came to a show to support suga he broke down crying on stage

Nicole♡♡

Jk looks like he gets all the women's but he was scared of girls for a long time 🤣 jin isn't a star compared to jm or jk yes but the more you learn about him the more you like it. Jin and suga are the ones that go most against the hype company in my perspective, they even rolled their eyes when talking about it sometimes

Kim seokjin always wins

I completely understand what you guys are trying to say and as an army I know it’s important and I want you guys to speak your truth and what you believe in yeah the boys said multiple times what you guys just said but the problem with some army ‘s is that they don’t like to hear the truth the truth hurts but it makes us stronger I just really hope that at some point you guys feel comfortable enough to say what you really want to share because i really enjoy your videos 💜

Maeee

NGL I think Jimin and Jhope are the most PC when it comes to the company, just my opinion

Zaria Weber

They definitely do want they want 😂💯

Maeee

Yoongi is my fav BTS rapper as well~ And 100% RM and Suga are better rappers, for sure.

Zaria Weber

I watched the full video and I definitely agree with what you guys are saying. A lot of Army’s don’t know how to take criticism. But that’s why I subscribed to y’all channel and Patreon. Y’all was being yourselves and I didn’t expect y’all to be big fans of the boys from the jump but it was nice to see the growth and the journey from then to now. And it’s a beautiful thing to see ,also I know that y’all love the boys and wants what’s best for them 💯 I’ll keep supporting you guys too 💜💯 Keep it up 👍🏽

Amaricymon'e

Idc about you guys being honest, everyone is entitled to their opinion and no one should get upset about that. We should all be able to have a respectful debate on the topic or video. Also no one should be name calling or body shaming on videos about a group of people who dont even know we all exist! 🤣 Side note: Low-key, Keon is a pick me, I've been trying to figure out what it is about him and that's it.

Amaricymon'e

Yeah no it has nothing to do with being from a different country I'm born and raised in Chicago and he just is something different but that's okay somebody like it.

Maeee

Army won't let Jk go lmao, I'm joking but also not. They're so salty whenever anyone mentions him possibly being solo. I think Jk should do more solo work, but a lotta army just hold him down and don't want him to grow. Because they want BTS forever!!! AGAIN not all army, but more times then not if u mention solo JK they'll be salty

Maeee

FINALLLYYY someone won't lie about it lmao, I'm glad you see it too

Maeee

Yeah I loved that live! Some people be so entitled and want him to stay 15 forever. I'm excited for this era as well, hope he continues to put them in their place when people are being disrespectful towards him and his growth in music.

Kimberley

I love when Jin goes on live and says the company wants me to do this ,and it isn't going to happen, because he's the oldest he gets away with a lot more.

Jana

I really like all of Jimin's works because he is really special, his works are not duplicated, both albums were great and achieved great accomplishments, I love his diversity and hard work, I have not seen another member in the group with such hard work, this is my opinion, each album had a special meaning, he was challenging himself every time with something new, and he participated in all two albums, this is really great!

Kimberley

Thanks for the video Jody, when you guys get a chance can you guys watch Run Jin. He puts in a lot of effort to make content so ARMY has something when the others are away. I think if you saw more his personality you would love his the most. He is funny and kind ,but for years has gone up against the company ,and spoke his mind and defended the members and ARMY and he never does things he absolutely doesn't want to do.

Maeee

Run Jin is so much fun!!! I think they’ll love watching it. Can’t wait for that

Xoxoree

He watched it just on the highest tier cause it was too real

Keyz J.

Well, he doesn't even want it....I mean of course he wants his solo career to be successful, but he has stated multiple times that BTS and being in BTS is what's most important to him. It's not impossible to grow and do what you love simultaneously .

Keyz J.

I don't think there's anything wrong with honesty, as long as it's coming from a place of being informed. And this is not a call out, but simply an observation...There have been so many times where I sit and watch Eman incorrectly read a subtitle(for example, it could read "I never spoke to anyone but my members about it".....but for w.e reason Eman reads it ..out loud btw ..as "I never speak to my members about it" ) and in turn makes an assessment off of something that wasnt even said. 😂😂 Saying things like "Jimin looks like a woman" , and " Jin fades to the back" , those are just personal opinions, I guess. But I do also believe that once you start going into the territory of saying things like "V is being fraudulent " and "RM is miserable" ..I think a little bit of backlash is to be expected.

mimitannie

aaah, i didnt know that, thanks for telling me 💗

Aicha Karamoko

Love your reaction Jody 💜💜💜💜💜

Maeee

Okay… wasn’t the main point of what we were saying. Plus we’ll never really know what he wants! He has talked about solo endeavors and wanting it (not saying leaving BTS) Sucks that Army aren’t supportive of him, but then claim to be OT7 is all I was mainly highlighting (I don’t care if all army don’t support him, just wish they wouldn’t be so fake and then get mad at people when they can see through them)

Chlo

Appreciate your reaction videos and your honesty. Just do you! I love your videos. You keep it real but you still respect and love BTS. I'll still be here supporting and looking forward to the next reaction vid. :)

Chlo

I think people need to understand that we have all have gotten to know BTS at different eras of their music, some were fans from the very start, some from their earlier years and some became fans after Dynamite and so on but that doesn't make you any less of a fan. ARMY needs to let these "new" fans learn more about BTS and watch their content and form their own opinions. Not everyone's gunna have the same opinion on things and that's normal, that's life. When I became an ARMY during Dynamite I remember having different opinions on members etc. but as I got to watch more content and learn more about them and their music some of my opinions did change as I grew to understand them more. We have to let people watch them and make their own opinions like we did. It's boring when everyone says the same thing all the time. We're not robots. And when they make their opinion known about a member, we shouldn't shut them down for it. They are just saying how they perceive it to mean at the time, some might say they need to be more respectful but they are not demeaning them. Some people may not agree with what reactors have to say but that doesn't make them any less of a fan then we are. For me I like to listen to people's perspectives on things, it makes things interesting, I may not always agree with them but I can respect it.

Keyz J.

We do know what he wants because he said it ,literally out of his mouth. Also Army literally supports everything jungkook does. One could even argue that he gets the most support. And I do think it's also normal and to be expected that When your dealing with the subject of 1 or all of the members leaving the group that it might get touchy. Certain people not wanting him to keep doing music and English or becoming more popular in th US has never made him lose views or sales. Those opinions are irrelevant.

Chlo

Also Kian please stay on this journey with us, keep making reaction videos with Jody and Eman, the more the merrier. I respect that you come on here and face the backlash and still continue to make videos. Please could you get Kian to watch V's Suchwita episode.

JKLS

Thanks for the reaction. About the rappers, I agree with Jody, Suga’s my favorite too, because of all the things that Jody mentioned. I’ve never really had a huge appreciation for rap but Suga got me into it. As for Jhope, I see him more as the ultimate showman / performer but he doesn’t stand out to me as a rapper.

Maeee

Well let’s just agree to disagree, u clearly don’t see that side of the fandom, that is very loud and obnoxious about Jk and his career

Chlo

I get what you mean when you say about the "react to this...react to that..." comments because why should you when they don't like what you have to say anyways and don't listen to what you have said previously.

lira

Hi! first of all thankyou for your reactions, I REALLY enjoy them, also when sometimes I don't agre with them. I wanted to say few things as a "middle place" between what I perceive as your place and some army's place, respecting everyone's opinonion. I don't usually interact, i prefer to watch and listen and sit back, but without dialogue there's no growth (it sounds better in my language :-)). I just wanted to say a little bit of my impression. Sometimes this k-pop world reminds me of soccer games, with some ultras that cannot take any criticism but overall a fun place. I've discovered BTS last year and i got hooked! That being said.... when I see "please react to this this and this" I personally take that as a message of excitement to see more, not disrespect. I also believe that suga made a mistake and he had to take his punishment and that should be it, but his situation got so so blown out of proportion with fake reports and lies (he was riding an electric scooter on the sidewalk with almost no one around) that army got triggered with trying to protect him: the more he got attacted the more army shut down everyone saying anything. I understand that army are really protective of BTS because of the smear campaign done and still going on against bts and army. I don't consider myself an army but just a BTS fan, but the same I also feel attacked sometimes. I also believe that you, and BTS also and everyone in reality cannot be 100% real (I'm REAL REAL to a small handful of people). I planned to say more but I'm going to be boring and that's not really the purpose. I just want to finish by saying i like your reaction and I hope you keep going like this (even if we ask react to this,,, and THIS,,, AND THISS, AND ALSO THISSS!!!!!).

Jaxyn

Great reaction! Loved the honesty.

Zack Clarke

Hey jody I've been saying this for while now in interms of reaction stuff and how if you don't feed the machine it will Bite back with constant demands of where's this where's that or if you don't feel the same way about things they will think your being hateful like your being honest with how you are and to them because that's why there here in the first place that's why I try and give you suggestions to other k pop groups and you know I want show you different kpop centered shows because if don't expand with different things more stuff where you feel like you can't be real with a fan base will happen in general

Chlo

I agree partially with you that V's album is "kinda weak", in the sense that it isn't everyones cup of tea and I think he knew that himself because he was so afraid of putting it out. He kept writing new songs and changing the setlist of his album. However, in the end he released the music that he feels comfortable making and he stayed true to himself. Yes V's album isn't so "stand out" or "popstar" style like Jimin or JK but he's a different style singer to them and he knows that. That's what makes BTS so great is that they all have their different vibes/styles that they are comfortable with and that's what makes them so unique. I think V understood that his album wasn't going to be a "hit" album like Jimin or JK but he released his music anyways knowing that it will still be appreciated. Also i'm not hating on yoiur opinion at all, I understand that V's music isn't to your taste and that's totally fine. Thanks for sharing and being honest.

Lief

I can't watch right now, but I will come back to watch this later 🤍 Big one, I see the comments are all taking it well (at least trying to). I hope it feels good for you and E-man to be open, hopefully we create a better synergy and community through this on Patreon 🤍

Chlo

Behind the scenes V wasn't really getting the support from his own company for his album/music also: Hybe’s internal audit concerning Taehyung (V) so far: - Revealed to be overstocking albums for their other artists to rig first week sales but failed to stock enough for Layover album where 800k+ sales got cancelled. - Failure to reprimand DC gallery (online platform in Korea) users who planned to sabotage V and Layover (with 2 other members). - Revealed to be protecting said DC gallery antis (and some are even HYBE staff) - Revealed to plant 1000+ negative comments on theqoo (another online platform in Korea) about his album to sway public perception because he didn’t choose to work with internal bighit/hybe producers and directors. - Has Sojang (a controversial Kpop YouTuber) YouTube membership as basis for other idol reports. - Halted investigations for Sojang when Taehyung/V sued her in 2021-2022 (investigations resumed early this year) - Uses postype (Korean ao3/fanfiction) to study fan service methods in which Taehyung/V has been a victim of from deranged shippers. - Planned to limit posting of his promo to singular platforms and got surprised NPR Music & other music shows posted him on their platforms. - Claimed that his album “is not an album that can compete on a stage even if its on a music show” (Layover won 2 triple crowns on MCA among other shows) - Admittedly used him as a sacrificial lamb to take the first backlash for every crisis before other members fall into one too (dating rumours, smoking etc.)

Chlo

I agree Be Mine is my favourite and then Slow Dance is my 2nd. You're right a lot of armies get jealous when it comes to the members performing with female artists so they don't support the song as much, which is sad because Slow Dance is a great song and Sofia Carson's voice is beautiful and perfect alongside Jimins.

Keyz J.

I see the hate every member gets...I can also recognize that those people aren't real fans.

𝐌𝐨𝐧𝐞𝐚𝐚ఌ

Yeah I don’t think you have seen #that side of Armys yet. The disrespect #that side of armys was saying about Kookie was wrong as hell. Calling him out his name, saying he’s a puppet, calling him a Zionist, including the SA pic they have made of him. So yeah all armys do not support him.

Chlo

Sorry I went on a bit but I like to comment along whilst I watch. Anyways thanks for the reaction.

Jodys Corner

I actually like V's music, its just not hitting like thebothers to me. Slow dancing is fire, but he doesnt have those hits you would expect him to have. All the songs sound the same (to me) and thank you for hearing me out. That was refreshing!

Jodys Corner

Thank you for this comment! I needed to know of your existence. You're right. Even though Kion said that he finds it disrespectful when they comment "react to this," I dont see it that way fully. I know some are just excited to see the next thing. I do agree with Kion that "some" who say "react to this" and nothing else on the video are just stans who doent care about us at all and just want the reaction. Which imo, is disrespectful and sad.

Amaricymon'e

I think they were confusing Sofia with Olivia tho because I couldn't find anything that Sofia did besides the grammy Pic but she asked if she could jump in the Pic? So maybe are they talking about the Olivia R.

Chlo

I know I can tell your genuine and appreciate their music as a group and solo artists also. I agree it is so refreshing to be able to have these conversations.

.

Your complaint would be with jk tho, he himself is more focused on the group. I think constantly pushing for him to do solo work even tho he’s said being in bts is more important to him is just as bad as not wanting him to do his solo work. He can do both. That’s probably what’s gonna happen with all the members as they get older anyway

Chlo

idk?

Maeee

Don’t know if this comment is to my original, but if so definitely not a complaint with Jk. If he wants to do more solo things I’ll be excited to tune in or if he does only group things, I’ll listen because I like his voice and his persona he shows. I’ve never “pushed for him to do solo” because I’m only commenting on paetron it won’t affect anything in his career. Definitely not bad to want him to do more solo songs, because all of his solo works have given him different voices and ranges I’m excited to see

Jodys Corner

Right! Theyre rejecting a dooe song because of her

.

It was to you and Hannah. I simply don’t think it’s “army won’t let jk go” it’s jk that’s not letting jk go. He’s the one putting his focus on bts rather than solo. And like Keyette said, he gets the mostttt support. His solo work is extremely successful. It feels silly to focus on a small group of ppl who feel negatively about that.

Jodys Corner

what do you consider backlash? I don't see backlash and disagreement as the same thing.

Rozaliyah

Oh man I wish I could watch this right now but getting ready to drive interstate so got no time to😥 It's nearly 7am where I am, hope I get a chance to watch tonight🤗❤️

Chia Sano

Great reaction. You know me and where and how I stand, so I am glad you all were also honest about being creators and reactors in this space and how toxic it can be. I enjoy watching your journey. I also knew of you all before you started reacting to BTS so I knew what to expect from you all, so keep doing things however makes you comfortable. Please let Kion know a random fact that the only scandal Jin ever had was a group of not real army freaking out because they saw a box of magnum sized condoms in his room in a picture and him and company responding to the backlash by confirming they saw what they saw. He has another picture that confirms the box was not an exaggeration. Just dropping a piece of ARMY lore for amusement. He is the grown man of the group who really seems to appreciate and enjoy his status but you can tell personally he never really had dreams to-be a superstar. Now that he is, he gets that check and is there for the other members as their big bro.

Chia Sano

Belatedly, the only songs on Muse that I really listen to are be mine, slow dancing and who, so you are right about the social medial streamers. I was hoping people would run up the tracks you can tell Jimin enjoys making, but we will see.

Keyz J.

Backlash would be comments that may come off angry or defensive.

Chlo

Yes I totally agree! He was always seen as the "troublemaker" etc. He was always "put down" in a way because of his character and I think that really got him down. I think now he just goes with the flow and you do see some moments of him saying what he truly feels. They're all under so much pressure in Korea to be these perfect idols that they fear being their true selves. Whereas people like me in countries like the UK & US want them to be more free to be themselves and not to put on such a facade. I became a fan because of their music but I became an ARMY because of them as individuals. Watching Run Bts and Bon Voyage etc. let me see them as human beings and they had more of their guard down. (Btw this is only my opinion).

Lief

You're stating a lot of things strongly. I could go into every single thing, but let's not go there. Unless if you want more explanation of where I'm coming from 🤍. I hope you can see there's some strong words, exaggeration and serving speculation as the absolute truth.

Chia Sano

I get it. Hence why said I think. None of us are in the room where it happened. V says he is happy now and I believe him. He is my bias wrecker and I love how he has grown, developed and matured as an artist. And I happen to enjoy someone who can speak their mind and be measured in how they engage and it is a skill he has.

Lief

Guys, #FreeLief. It's 10pm and I'm still in the office. Set me free!!

lira

Hi!, sorry one last thing I wanted to share. I couldn't help but think about it during my work shift and I had to check during coffee break and share it😅. jimin's second most streamed daily song on spotify is "be mine"!!! bye! back to work

Joe

Jody thanks for keeping this real. I agree with you all on most of the things you said. Eman lately u r getting my respect even more.

Lief

That was good guys, it was good seeing you having fun discussing things. Thank you guys for opening up about how you've felt, and you're right on a lot of points. Just continue in a way where you feel it's good. Finding a good balance. You guys can learn more and speak more, and the patreons should be more communal and helpful. Just taking it slowly, with time you'll deeper understand the depth of the workings of BTS, how ARMYs go about (outside of youtube/patreon), the whole business side of things, and also so much more fun with music and shows!! Like it was funny, in private ARMY groupchats we also talk about who of the boys would get the most girls lmao. Who doesn't engage in a bit of fun banter as a fan?! I had fun watching 🫶🏽

Lief

And it wouldn't be me if I didn't add some fun info. 🤭🤭🤭 About the Jackson family, they've acknowledged BTS for a long time!! In 2018, the family even especially requested BTS for a Micheal Jackson tribute. But 2018 was a hectic time for BTS (as you know), they were on a fully booked world tour and were working on two albums. Hence, BTS didn't have the enough time to prepare and do the tribute justice (it's not something you can slack off on lmao), so they turned it down. But because of the personal request by the family, Jimin and Jungkook got together and did a dance cover of "Black or White" during a BTS concert. Then later that year, Janet Jackson came to Korea. She even went to the 2018 MAMA Awards show, not to perform, but to see BTS. Ever since then, there's just been a lot of shout-outs from the Jackson family to the boys. And also the boys have incorporated a lot more direct references to Micheal.

Lief

Sorry I couldn't write clearly and keep it short, it's my midnight ramblings. 😴

Amanda Michelle

Kion just made a good point. Y'all do long reactions sometimes and hardly get any appreciation for it. But that's why I always make sure to thank you guys and let you know I appreciate the work you do. Honestly, IMO, I think it's some younger/immature viewers who instantly throw out requests for other reactions without even showing any appreciation for the video they just watched. I may be wrong about that, but I think everybody needs to be reminded to have an attitude of gratitude. :) Anyway, Jody and fam, I love you guys and look forward to your "realness" etc. I WILL, however, let you know if I think you might be mistaken on something sometimes, but I'll do it with respect. I think most of those instances only happen when you haven't viewed some other content that explains better about whatever opinion you may have formed...but I'll be glad to point you in the right direction. Generally, I think you guys have been pretty much on point throughout your BTS journey and have acknowledged those few times when you found you weren't right in some instance. It's all gravy. Keep doing what you're doing. This is my favorite BTS reaction channel and I do hope you keep going because there's SOOOO much more content for you to see! Love y'all!!

Amanda Michelle

E-man, you mentioned how some people stop their subscriptions on here from time to time. I have to be honest here and let you know that sometimes I miss a payment because frankly I'm broke. LOL! I recently lost my job and have been Doordashing to make ends meet...which they're not really meeting. *sigh* But, as for other patrons, consider that there may also be younger people on here who can't afford to pay every month. Even when I miss a payment, I always come back, so I hope others do so as well.

Amaricymon'e

Olivia? Or are you saying they are rejecting the song because of the pic Sofia got in?

Amaricymon'e

I agree but honestly I just don't ever listen to Eman because he never gets anything right, like ever. He's always saying something that is pretty much the opposite of what's happening in low key thinks he zones out 😂😂😂😂

Amanda Michelle

I'm at the point of your reaction where you're comparing the rappers and you're saying how you think Suga is the best rapper, etc. I actually agree with what you guys are saying, I just don't know where or when you formed your opinions because it doesn't seem like y'all have even seen much of their rapping (apart from solo stuff). Y'all mentioned in a previous reaction that you had seen the Cyphers (I think) but we've never seen those reactions. Did you hold them back and not post them for some reason? We really want to see y'all react to the older rap stuff, the stuff they did way before the solo stuff...like Cyphers 1-4, Hip-hop Lover, Outro Tear, Ddaeng, and Ugh (and of course, Ddaeng and Ugh need to be followed up with the EXPLANATION VIDEO or else you'll be totally lost).

Cherish Poole

i hope when jody said he’s gonna show kian a jin mv it’s not i’ll be there 💀

VancityGal

I agree. Closer than this is cute but only did well cuz it was an Army song. Forgive me but Smiraldo was trash to me and the best songs on the album are def not the most listened to by Army. In a fandom that large there will be a lot of people who who haven't yet developed or will never develop real taste in music. The album as overall not a smash for me like Face was. I agree with Jody. It needed more time to cook. 😉💜

VancityGal

Thank you guys for listening to us. I don't want to subject you guys to hate comments, but, I do love videos like this were you're more honest even if you're not 100 with us. I also agreed with 91.2 percent of what you said. Too long to go over everything but a few things that stood out. Suga did an illegal thing and was punished as is expected. I also kinda have a hunch that he is a bit of an alcoholic as well. Suga IMO is the best rapper in BTS. Your ranking was accurate. V's album is a hit for me. It was made for people like me and I love how it flows. For Us is a song that gives me euphoria. I would listen to it over JK's album and JK is my bias. I don't like all of the songs on JK's album. However, you are perfectly withing your right to say it wasn't for you. PS I'm one of the people that constantly defended you on YouTube and Patreon in the beginning and promoted your patreon to the YouTube audience. But after my feelings were hurt from some of your responses to me on comments lashing out, I started to just mind my own business and not put myself out there that much. I still support you guys and even if i dont always agree, I love content like this. Please keep going. 🙏🏽 💜

VancityGal

I consider Suga one of the great artists of my life. An artist that has touched me so deeply and healed me in ways I wasn't expecting. Even as a person. To know him is to be inspired to overcome and find happiness. He truly gives me comfort and lights a fire in me. I do hope that you will check out all his MVs and discography. I think it may change your minds on his level star quality. 💜

mimitannie

Why not? It's literally the last song he released, and after his military service.

Chia Sano

That's what the streets say.

Chia Sano

Because for people new to Jin it does not showcase his vocal ability at all. It just highlights his fun side and some musicality which is something Kion already knows he has but it would not show off his silver voice. (It is not a bad song just not the best intro to Jin for a doubter)

mimitannie

And so what? It's still his song, and it still shows that he has an amazing voice. It's a part of him, a song he worked on while he was in the service. Just because some people don't think it showcases "his great voice" (this feels like a joke, but anyway) doesn't mean it shouldn't be reacted to. He's releasing his album soon, so it's great that they're reacting to it now

Chia Sano

I was answering why someone might not recommend that as a first Jin song for someone who is still a doubter unless that genre is one they like. Please note I said it wasn't a bad song, I love it to pieces cuz I know it is the type of music that fits Jin and is what he likes. But as someone who has had to create strategic plans to get people into BTS, I always start with a song I know they will rock with, then allow then to take the journey after they get it.

mimitannie

Yes, I get what you're saying, but my comment is more directed at the first person who commented. The way she/he said it is just... sometimes they sound more like haters than "army”, just saying 😁

Chia Sano

Jody and Eman already know what to expect with Jin and like him. This was I think about helping Kion understand why Jin is not just 'happy to be there'.

Cherish Poole

how is not liking a song not being an army? You’re just being a brown-noser 💀 I’m a huge fan, but at the end of the day they’re just people like me and you, you’re acting as if I should be burned at the stake for having an opinion. No, I DON’T like the song, I’ll do you one better, I HATE it. I like Jin’s ballad songs more, that’s my absolutely non-harmful opinion. All of the members have songs that I like and songs that I don’t. I DON’T like Euphoria from Jk, never did. I DO like 3D. I DON’T like AMYGDALA, I DO like Polar Night and the vast majority of Yoongi’s songs. I DON’T like Magic Shop, I do like the vast majority of BTS songs. There are many more songs that I don’t like and songs that I do like. That’s REAL. That’s the reality of being a human with opinions. Before BTS, I was a music fanatic and a hard core critic of the things that I liked, why? because my standards are higher BECAUSE i like them so much. If you don’t agree with that fine, but it isn’t an issue. If anything I see myself as more of an “army” than you, because when I like a song or when I like the members, I REALLY do, because i’m honest with myself and I mean what I say. When you like a song or the members, who knows how true that really is, since apparently you “like” damn near anything they do. V could pull up in a bathrobe and you would be like “OMG NEW FASHION 😍😍” Sorry, I don’t think their shit doesn’t stink. Honestly “fans” like you (or should I say ZEALOTS) are dangerous. You know when you see Artists get exposed for sexual assault and everyone’s so shocked at WHO in the WORLD would support and defend such an artist after? Yeah, I’m not shocked.

Chia Sano

Also to try to descalate here a bit. You have never said Jin shouldn't make the music he wants or any of the members make music that they want or like. You were just sharing that while you support them as artists, not everything is your cup of tea and that is okay. Also, the main point is you never said they shouldn't react to the song, your post was that you hope it wasn't the MV they chose to show Kion to try to prove their point. So, there was nothing against Jin or BTS in your post, just on topic with the Kion thing.

Cherish Poole

yeah I got a little in my feelings thanks for trying to de-escalate. To me, I OBVIOUSLY love Jin, but this person doesn’t know that. I just think it’s wild to assume i’m a hater just because I don’t like a song, there’s NO ONE that likes every single song.

mimitannie

First of all, what does the last part have to do with JIN and his song "I’ll Be There"? That’s what I WAS talking about. You’re changing the subject to something completely serious and unrelated here. Everyone has their own opinion and tastes, and that’s respectable—I honestly don’t care. But my point was more about YOUR WAY of saying it (if you read it again and have good reading comprehension, you’d understand). Anyway, seeing your overly defensive reaction already says a lot.

Cherish Poole

and it isn’t even BECAUSE i don’t like the song that I didn’t want Kion to react to it first, but the reasons that you said, it doesn’t very well show Jin’s musicality in my opinion and that’s the whole point of Kion’s reaction. It’s like if Kion didn’t think J-Hope was a good dancer for some reason and Jody decided to show him Hobipalooza instead of hope on the street 💀

mimitannie

Second, at what point did I say that if you don’t like a song, you’re not an ARMY? WHAT I SAID IS, AND I REPEAT: “I understand what you’re saying (Chia Sano), but my comment is more directed at him/her (YOU) for how it was said...” In the first comment, I ask why I shouldn’t have shown that song if it’s the last one he released after his military service. And in the second comment, where I respond to Chia Sano, I mention that it’s still Jin’s song and his style, and I don’t understand why it shouldn’t be listened to, especially considering the album is just around the corner, so even more reason to listen to it. But you’ve decided to respond defensively with things I never said, and that have nothing to do with the topic. Anyway, no matter how much you hate the song, it’s still part of Jin’s discography, whether you want to ignore that or not 💗

Cherish Poole

If you don’t understand how the things that I said connect to eachother, read it a couple more times, maybe read a book too and exercise that cerebrum. I’m gonna give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you’re a minor.

mimitannie

Whatever you say, darling, but I responded by asking WHY NOT, and Chia Sano explained it to me and I understood. However, I didn’t understand the way you said it (in chats, things can easily be misinterpreted if you don’t know). Instead of responding to me like Chia Sano did and simply answering my initial question, you decided to turn the conversation into something unrelated, attack me, get defensive, and even after explaining, you kept attacking. Girl, relax, I didn’t say anything harsh. Also, I say "sometimes they sound more like haters than ARMYs" because it’s not the first time Jin has been discredited for the song, just because it wasn’t what people expected. If it’s explained to me that maybe as a first impression it wasn’t the best choice, I GET IT, and that’s it, it’s not that deep.

Jodys Corner

I have been called a hater many times for my critique. It gets me upset too, especially when its the opposite of my true feelings. Everything in this fandom is so black and white! You don't like this song? HATER! You think Jimin looks like a woman? HATER Misogynist with Toxic Masculinity!....... I understand how Chrish feels.

VancityGal

🤣🤣🤣🤣 Oh Fucking no!!!! Man!!!??? Now it's my turn to be 💯 with you and people can kiss my ass if they think I'm not supportive because of it. That's the only Jin song I don't like. I understand Army songs make people happy and such but sometimes they're boring AF!! I still streamed and listened to it to support but I was really let down by it. I think it doesn't show Jin off in the slightest (although the live is a bit better). Man is very talented and this songs doesn't show it off AT ALL. I pray 🙏🏽 the rest of the album will be better. Check out Christal Snow, a BTS song he truly shines in. Nobody can do what he did in that song. 💜

VancityGal

You have every right to like or dislike any song you want. But, my audible gasp when I read you didn't like Amygdala!! 😱😱😱

VancityGal

Genuine question, are other fanbases less critical of negative reactions?

Zack Clarke

What you count as negative is subjective but the fact jody hasn't had the chance to experience that from other fan bases critics in general and is only going off army and how people see and treat him is giving a negative view point of kpop in general considering how big BTS is and the community

Jodys Corner

I would say Army are the most sensitive, toxic music fanbase I have experienced.

Jodys Corner

VancityGal i have had nothing but good experiences with BlackPinks fanbase for example.

Jodys Corner

Havent reacted or seen any of the rapline besides what you seen us react to. I notived it very early since hearing them. I instantly knew who was best. Imo. I dont need to hear all thwir music to know this. I will still liaten to the rapline and react for you too. Maybe my mind will change. But it was apparent to me who I thought was best from the start.

Amanda Michelle

Yeah, I can understand forming an opinion early on. But the crazy thing is, with BTS (and I know you've experienced this) they will frickin change your mind so often, you get whiplash! Lol! One minute you'll go nuts over Suga's rap style and then RM will knock you on your ass with songs like "Joke" or "Do You." And then Hobi's melodic rap works its way into your friggin eardrum and you're like, WTH is going on here?!?

Chia Sano

Amygdala is one that is carried by the depth of the lyrics, but for people who don't speak Korean just listening to it, unless you like that rap style alot of people who aren't already into BTS don't rock with it. When they read the lyrics, they get its heavy but I think the emotion doesn't carry as much not knowing what he is saying.

Tamiko E. Mitchell

I totally agree, the only song I like from Jin is "AWAKE" I don't like BTS' POPPY SONGS, "MAGIC SHOP", "MY UNIVERSE" can't stand them, I'm more into there R&B HIP HOP SONGS...

Ariane Guimarães

Since you guys are being real, I’m also going to be real. I’ve never commented anything hateful here or on YouTube. I do disagree with you guys on many things, but you are allowed your opinions. The thing that makes me really mad from time to time is when you guys state your opinion as a fact, but what I really admire about you guys is that the times those opinions turned out to be wrong you weren’t afraid of admitting you were wrong (like in the beginning you used to say things about Suga). About what was said of people saying “react to this”, I never thought of it that way, sometimes I just don’t have anything to add to the conversation and just comment a suggestion of something that I think you would enjoy. But I’ll definitely take that into consideration in the future when I suggest something. And just to make it clear even when you make me frustrated and I don’t agree with you, I never comment anything shitty, that’s why I don’t hide behind fake profile pictures or fake names, I make sure I’m held accountable for the things that I do on the internet LOL. And I really appreciate your reactions and see how far you’ve come, thank you 💜

VancityGal

I think if you identify with that headspace it's transformative and gives you a feeling of not being alone. To me the lyrics and and the style perfectly capture that feeling of being trapped in your own trauma and thoughts. I think it's genius. But, I can see how it wouldn't speak to those who have never been there.

Ana Paula

Obrigada pela reação. Love you💜

Maeee

Glad people are being real about liking songs and their taste, definitely haven’t added all of the BTS songs to my playlist for a reason and I’m not gonna stream something just to stream it. If It’s not my style it just isn’t for me.

Maeee

Lmao

Amanda Michelle

Yeah, I actually agree with you on that. I understand why Jody thinks Suga is the best rapper. He hasn't heard the best of RM yet. I can't wait til he does, though! :)

BettyB

On the Jackson’s: Taj Jackson, Michael’s nephew, has positively commented on BTS several times before and said he thinks Michael would have really liked them and would have collaborated with them, but Taj is pretty young so idk how well he knew Michael. None of the other Jackson’s have publicly commented on K-pop or BTS before.

Lief
>>154866815

It's been rare, as they're also quite private. But Prince Micheal also praised BTS a while ago, and Janet Jackson went to Korea and met BTS at the 2018 MAMA awards. In 2018 BTS were also asked for a tribute, and I thought it was the family's request, but it was Micheal's record label's request. Also in the Thriller 40 years tribute video, they showed a clip from BTS' dynamite and complimented BTS.

K

Jody I really like your your content. But I am probably the ones always under your your comments disagreeing. You say patreon is about keeping it real until we keep It real with you. You are allowed to have your own Opinions and I respect it. But We to are allowed to have ours. as aviewer it feels like you think you know everything that goes on behind the camera and you think you know everything that goes on with their lives and it feels like you think you should know every little things behind cams.like i remember on a old video of you guys watching the wired interview and Isai’s “why didn’t they put the real questions like if they are dating” not exactly that but something of that topic and I commented a long paragraph on how we don’t need to know everything about them they have personal lives and you responded EXACTLY THIS “Theyre public figures, so it is our business.” WHAT? What sense does that make?they are public figures so we should know about their love life? No they are human beings making music.but I genuinely don’t feel like anyone on patreon is rude we just have diff opinions from you and that’s completely fine because we are all different humans with different thoughts. I’m a fan but I am a human first and as someone who genuinely loves bts and their music I’m always defending .i don’t know what goes on behind screen but I do know they are human and they don’t have to share everything with us don’t have to tell everything to us either.

Jodys Corner

Yeah, you're one of em. As long as you are respectful, disagree away! Im for it.

Jodys Corner

Celebrities live are NOT private. They waive privacy once they relied on fame to get them rich. Its what comes with the profession.

K

But do you really believe someone has to come out n say “I’m dating this person” jss bc they got fame n money?