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Vinland Saga 1 x 15 (Patreon)

Published:
2025-11-14 20:17:19
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2026-04-20 06:25:56
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Yeah this was a long one - lots to discuss!

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Adam

The religions shape the different cultures. The norse children grow up without the same moral weight of christianity. Their gods are fallible, more like really strong humans than monotheistic gods. Being from an oral tradition, the norse would gather and tell stories both real and mythological. Living to gain glory and have your own addition to the story is their purpose in life. An egalitarian(?) religion of creation instead of restriction and hierarchy. I find it very interesting. What would Europe be like if they had prevailed in England and not converted?

Luís

There's something that always seems so interesting to me during the priest's prayer this episode: He says he doubts God's love, but not his existence. I feel like I always hear people doubting his existence, but never his love

icyfire

i cried alongside you 💔

Mickael Landry

This is exactly why you're one of my favorite reactors, Sophie, not only because of your insightful commentary but also once again for your deep empathy! 🫶💯 I noticed that some reactors seemed happy about Ragnar’s death. They argued that Canute's privileged upbringing, with Ragnar’s love and indulgence since childhood, ultimately failed him because he couldn’t live up to the responsibilities of a prince. They celebrated Ragnar’s death by suggesting that he failed to properly educate Canute and raised him more like a farmer’s son than a future ruler. I like Ragnar, and I truly appreciate how you mourned his passing. 🥹 It’s so sad that his compassion and care for Canute were the reasons he was killed. I understand that a prince needs to be tough to navigate the political landscape, but Ragnar was simply acting like any caring parent in his situation. His love and kindness were genuine, not signs of weakness. RIP conehead 🙏

Mickael Landry

Askeladd kills other people fathers and father figures to be the only daddy in the world. 😅 Jokes aside, Askeladd is quite chaotic as a character. You somewhat grasp his motives and objectives, but wow, he really gets his hands dirty to achieve them. He wipes out an entire village for their resources, just to keep progressing and set his plans in motion. He is often depicted as a pragmatic character whose philosophy is based on the idea that the end justifies the means. His worldview is colored by realism and cynicism, which leads him to prioritize his own interests or those of his allies, even if it means engaging in morally questionable actions. It's somewhat amusing that Thorkell has to remain hidden in an English town, and it looks like he's subtly pressuring the locals for food. Thorkell is really quite relaxed and easygoing when he's not in a bloodthirsty state.

DrSophieDarlingReacts

What's funny is I was literally thinking about that haha!! He's killing fathers and collecting traumatised children like they are Pokemon cards!

DrSophieDarlingReacts

That absolutely baffles me!! Ragnor had good intentions and that was very evident. He loved him like he was his own son and only wanted to protect him. Which is admirable. However, we can also acknowledge that this desire to protect also had a negative impact in weakening Canute's stance as a Prince in that he was dependent on Ragnor to speak for him. It made others look at him as if he was incapable of taking charge and being a King that they could support and follow. That doesn't mean that Ragnor couldn't have changed and come to understand that he needs to encourage Canute to speak up. He didn't deserve to die solely for caring and loving a traumatised child and wanting to protect him from the harsh reality he had to endure in his father's court. In such a cut throat environment Ragnor did need to be more firm with Canute. A Prince that is perceived as weak is a Prince that is as good as dead because no one will rally to them. Ragnor was evidently aware of this but I think his care and compassion for Canute blinded him to what he needed to do to ensure Canute could be both kind and benevolent whilst garnering respect and authority from those around him. I fully agree that Ragnor needed to push Canute from the nest but not in a harsh way. More so teaching him to speak for himself instead of allowing him to hide behind him. The tragedy is that we are beginning to see that take shape. Canute is finding his voice and authority and Ragnor is in awe of him. He's encouraging him by staying silent whilst still offering that love and support to Canute. We will never get to see what takes shape now because Askeladd severed that connection in a brutal fashion that won't benefit Canute. He sees it as a way to harden Canute, to make him a warrior but Canute is not like Thorfinn. The death of Thorfinn's father is the catalyst for him becoming a warrior to enact revenge. Thors would not want this life for Thorfinn and he knows that deep down but he's angry and lost. He wants to honour his father but the greatest honour would be to go home and live a good life as a man with no enemies. Thors death hardens Thorfinn - he loses his childhood innocence and becomes consumed with anger. Canute is older. More mature and rational in what is expected of him as a Prince. Aware how his actions and words can cause political turmoil. Ragnor's death will serve no other purpose than to turn Canute's suspicion on Askeladd and be wary of trusting him and his judgement. He needs a firm but gentle hand of someone that respects him rather than sees him as a means to an end. I think Askeladd is going to believe Canute to be easily manipulated and be in for a rude awakening. Though I do think Canute will benefit from observing Askeladd in line with Thors message of not every warrior needs a sword. A sharp mind is as good as any weapon and that's going to be Canute's weapon of choice. But it honestly upsets me that people celebrated Ragnor's death and that he failed Canute. I think if not for Ragnor - Canute would likely be dead already. He did everything to protect that boy even relying on someone he knows has betrayed him to keep him safe. Ragnor may not have been firm with Canute in the way that he should have been which may have encouraged this view of him as weak, but that doesn't mean he deserves to die for loving and caring for Canute.

Caleb Mackin

ugh askeladd is such a well written, complex character. i have probably at least 10 animes over vinland saga but askeladd is probably my favorite antagonist in any show ive ever watched

Henrik Mortensen

Maybe a thing to reflect on. Askeladd has said he hate the Danes, but as someone with Welsh heritage, it is also not weird for him to hate the British as well. He is also a calculated pragmatist. We have seen hints of his motives so far, but his character has so many layers wrapped in great small moments that lets them shine through. When you get used to the side of him that is a psudo father figure for Thorfinn, it can be easy to forget he only is that due to him neglecting the promises for the dual and killing Thors. It is the same pragmatism shining through in the English village.