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Apothecary Diaries 2 x 13 (Patreon)

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2025-12-20 21:24:14
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2026-04-20 06:25:50
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Greybeard

It's Suirei, without the "n" at the end. With the "n", it is Suiren, the serving lady of Jinishi. These two are easy to confuse. Your pronunciation of Shisui is perfect now. 👍

KatoBen

24:05 To me, the emperor clearly sees Lishu like a daughter. After being dismissed, a concubine would normally go home, but Lishu was sent to a convent. It's clear to me that her family abandoned her and only saw her as a tool to get close to he emperor. It would also explain why none of her servants respect her, as they would have been chosen by her family. Making Lishu a concubine again is clearly his way of trying to save her, as I don't believe adoption by the emperor was a valid option (or an option he'd want to put Lishu through.) 26:02 You may have forgotten. The only women allowed to leave the rear palace are though who were never touched by the emperor. LIshu got to leave because the emperor, luckily, never had a chance to lay a finger on her. I briefly mentioned above that a concubine relived of her duties before spending a night with the emperor would normally return to her family and (I assume) arranged a marriage. Lishu being sent to a convent shows how little her family actually cares for her, and only makes me want to protect her even more. Regarding pronunciations again (I only want to help) Katakana is the literal representation of the Japanese letters in English form. Each syllable in the Katakana spelling represents one letter in the Hiragana word. With that in mind, Katakan ignores traditional ways of turning sequences of letters to sound in the English language. So all vowels are pronounced elongated, so all vowels are pronounced like below: 'a' = 'ah' 'e' = 'eh' like in "heh" edit: I got the sound wrong and corrected it 'i' = 'ee' like in "see" 'o' = 'oh' 'u' = 'oo' like in "oooh, ahhh." Another point is that 'R' and 'L' don't have dedicated sounds, and they both sound the same. Kind'a like how Spaniards and Mexicans flutter their tongues on certain letters, an 'l' or 'r' sounds like you are trying to say both in one movement. Very hard to learn. Consonants are generally their literal sound, except in the sequence 'Ts,' where the 'T' is silent. I hope this brief Katakana lesson is helpful in learning how to say Japanese names and words. After all, Katakana was made so that English speaking merchants could more easily learn how to communicate with Japanese during trade. Oh, and if I sound frustrated while writing this, I'm not really. I just enjoy explaining how Katakana works to people.

DrSophieDarlingReacts

Not if they are a high-consort which is classed as an unofficial wife. In Imperial China many were forced into convents after the death of an Emperor which is what I discussed in my outro. They were expected to spend their time in mourning and as a form of retirement. Which is why it was so heavily frowned upon (as mentioned in S1) for the Current Emperor to bring her back as one because it's seen as a form of 'incest' as well as going against the established order. The only other high consort from that period became Empress and is now the Empress Dowager. We are unaware of any others and what happened after the Emperor's death but they were unlikely to be allowed to stay and would have been retired from their positions e.g. Monestry. The rest are all mid to low ranking. It's not beyond the realm of possibility that this is rooted in actual Chinese history which is why I discussed it in depth in my outro the similarities between Lishu and an actual historical figure in which this happened. Cixi. I haven't forgotten more so with a show heavily influenced by Chinese history it's relevant to discuss. We do agree that it's an act of saving her though and recognition that she's a child who deserves better. We also know that in S1 a lot of the disrespect is not to do with her family but that the servants are unhappy serving her as her reputation is heavily discussed and frowned upon because she's returned after being sent into retirement. It's not the done thing which served to turn a lot of people at court against her. Thank you for the reference to Katakana. I'll try to keep it in mind but it's hard to do so at times! :')

Pedro D. G.

I hope that Xiaolan gets a really good job in the future and since she now can write and read she can stay in touch with MaoMao and Shisui by letters ❤️

WondrousMay

I really love the trio of Maomao, Xiaolan and Shisui! It’s just nice to see Maomao making new friends too. A cool detail: when Maomao and the others were helping Lishu, Shisui made herself scarce and didn’t show her face to them. No one questioned it too so she knows how to keep herself safe.

Mickael Landry

I appreciate how Maomao is regarded as a little sister at the brothel, while she takes on the role of an older sister to the younger maids in the palace. It’s an intriguing dynamic that showcases her adaptability and nurturing spirit.

Mickael Landry

@11:42, you referred indeed to it as the gossip spot before Gyokuyou hinted just at the next scene, brilliant deduction haha. 🕵🏽‍♀️ Lishu’s existence has been filled with horror stories, and that’s even before that strange ghost she mentioned at the end of this episode. 😓👻 Like KatoBen, it makes me curious about her relationship with the emperor. Does he perceive her as a daughter, or does she see him as a father figure? Considering she admires Ah Duo as a mother figure, particularly since Ah Duo and the current emperor were once romantically involved when he was still a prince, it adds depth to their relationships. 👨‍👩‍👧 I suspect that both the emperor and Ah Duo were intent on stopping Lishu’s parents from selling her to someone of lower status than the emperor, especially given the societal stigma attached to remarriage for widows. When the emperor probably learned the true nature of Lishu’s parents, who were evidently more vile than he had thought (driven solely by their own interests, showing little regard for her well-being as it appears), I also believe he took it upon himself to ensure her safety and protect her. Lishu’s journey has been incredibly tough for someone so young. It’s heartbreaking to see her endure so much hardship at just 15. She truly deserves all the love and support, including a big, comforting hug. 👧🏽👐💖

Icy

I’m not say it is but Loulan’s headpiece does look bug like. Also when Lishu came by Shisui disappeared she literally walked off camera. It sounds like the empress Wu Zetian.

Kita

You’ll get a different dynamic for the three sisters and what happened at that tea break when you read the book. It goes a bit more in depth.

Kita

Also, I’m sure most people know this, but Lishu was never deflowered by the old emperor, hence she was sent to a monastery. If she was, she would not be allowed to leave as once you sleep with the emperor you cannot leave. That’s why Ah Duo left her position as a high concubine, but still lives somewhere on the palace grounds.

DrSophieDarlingReacts

I'm aware but I am talking about actual Chinese History and the influence that may have had on the story itself especially as Lishu's story mimics a real Chinese figure. We know that lower and mid-ranking do not leave but higher-ranking we actually don't know what is anticipated of them. In history they were expected to mourn and live their lives in a monastery. Which ties into the controversy in bringing her back and making her a high-ranking consort once more as was depicted in S1 due to it being akin to incest. It's never been mentioned in the show that Ah Duo still lives on the palace grounds so please be careful if that's something that is brought up in S2 as you may be accidentally spoiling future plot points :) Ah Duo also stayed in her position to keep watch over her son and was allowed to retire on her own terms. It's not so much to do with her having slept with the Emperor but wanting to protect Jinshi and using her status to do so. Again - we know low and mid-ranking cannot leave if they have slept with the Emperor. High-ranking? We don't know. Lishu was high ranking and went to a monastery. Anshi was high ranking and became Empress. We actually don't know anything about any other potential high ranking concubines during the Previous Emperor's reign but they do not seem to be present at all insinuating that they did leave. Whereas the low and mid-ranking stayed. There are still gaps in the narrative to explore and we can't presume that the rules that apply to low and mid ranking also apply to higher ranking, much in the same way they wouldn't have applied equally in Imperial Court dynamics.

DrSophieDarlingReacts

I don't think it's that the Emperor sees her as a daughter or that she sees him as a father figure. We have to remember the dynamic regardless of age. Lishu was his mother-in-law through being a high-ranking consort to his father. The structure wouldn't have allowed him to be close enough to her to have paternal feelings towards her. He is evidently disgusted by his father's sexual desires and recognises that Lishu is a child and deserves better. It's an act of protection but not so much out of seeing her as a daughter but rather stems from being a decent person. Ah Duo would have been in the Rear Palace. She would have spent time with Lishu in a way that the Emperor (then Prince) wouldn't have been able to do because it would not be appropriate. That's why they formed such a dynamic because they were in close proximity and were able to build a bond on the basis that Ah Duo saw this poor child as being in need of protection and a mother, and she had no child of her own so was able to nurture her. In Chinese History high-ranking concubines would be sent to convents which is where Lishu ended up. She was expected to spend the rest of her days there in seclusion. I don't believe the Emperor and Ah Duo were stopping her parents because she was no longer in their care. She was in a monastery and was anticipated to remain there - celibate and unwed as dictated by the palace. The societal stigma doesn't exist for high-ranking concubines because remarriage wasn't an option. Hence the monasteries. Which is why it was so controversial that she was brought back as a high-ranking concubine by the current Emperor. In S1 - society looks down on Lishu because this dynamic is seen as being akin to incest due to her being technically a defacto wife of the Previous Emperor. The act of bringing her back was controversial societally because she not only 'remarries' but to her 'son-in-law'. The Emperor brought her back to offer her a life more befitting a young girl than being locked away in a monastery and to give her an aspect of freedom she would not have. But it was not to stop her parents because their influence disappeared the moment she was placed into the Rear Palace and then into the Monastery.