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Vinland Saga 2 x 7 (Patreon)

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2026-01-23 18:33:51
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2026-04-20 06:25:28
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Vivasvan Gautam

Couple minutes in and 'snake can punish me anyday' lol. It completely caught me off guard.

KinsmokeWill

Tad judgemental of the father no? 😅 I always thought it was more a case of the family being in debt because the father didn't return, as opposed to him running away from a debt. The guy fathered 3 children and the assumption is that he just left them to die!? That's pretty dark. I dunno, maybe I misunderstood something but I took the suggestion of Ketil's son as the most likely scenario 🤷🏾‍♂️

DrSophieDarlingReacts

It wasn't uncommon in that time period nor is it uncommon in today's society. Debt was and is an extreme pressure on the impoverished. The emphasis on them owing money gives some insight that there was financial pressure looming over the family. I acknowledged that Ketil's son could be right BUT it wouldn't be uncommon either for men to abandon their families because the debt is tied to them as the head of the household. I was merely floating a theory rather than straight up saying that's what happened. I think you've taken me out of context as judging him as leaving them to die when I was merely making a suggestion as to an alternative scenario :) You could father or birth 20 children. Still wouldn't stop a parent abandoning them if they felt the pressure and decided it was better to leave than face the legal consequences of owing money. It's left open to interpretation. It's never specified if the debt was before or after leaving it open to our theories.

KinsmokeWill

You're not wrong I just don't see the show implying that. Ketils son could have just as easily said 'Your dad probably gave up on you' to a similar effect, I feel like the fact that the author wrote the dialogue as it is leans towards what's most likely or at least what the author wants us to think. Snake has already made us very aware of the fact that bandits roam the area, it just seemed more likely to me that the father was found by one(or a few) of them while he had his produce in tow.

Erjon Sejdijaj

It should go without saying that in the manga, Arnheid was naked in that last scene there... For however much I adore this anime, some of the censorship does my head in at times. This episode is great, we finally get some actual characerisation for Ketil beyond "oh what a nice man that is." To me, the takeaway is that while Ketil holds many valiant ideals, he suffers from a chronic lack of spine. It's all good barking the right bark when you don't bite the right bite. He's the owner and leader of the farm. He has all the right he could possibly want to to just put his foot down and say "no, we're not doing this." Instead, he cowers behind the safety of not being the one responsible for the sentencing. "Why did you have to steal from me? I've got no choice but to punish you." This line says a lot. Instead of grabbing a hold of his fate, he's apathetic to it. You're Iron Fucking Fist Ketil for crying out loud, what would his men do? Everyone is dependent on him and his wealth. And yet, he does nothing. He even goes so far as to beat the poor kid himself, even that isn't a bridge too far for him if it gives his position safety. Like I said, a man with certain ideals perhaps ahead of his time, yet lacking any ability to actually act on them. It's easy to forget this man is still a slave handler, no matter how "humane" he may seem in contrast to the possible alternatives. Not to say Ketil is inherently evil, but he's painfully human in a way. Also, the author's name is Makoto Yukimura! You should follow him on twitter after you finish the season, he's like the most wholesome man on that entire platform I swear to god. A while ago he went on a whole tangent about crying in the plane to Zombie Land Saga music lmao. He also retweets fanart like almost every day, it's amazing.

DrSophieDarlingReacts

Because he doesn't know what happened. He's throwing out a theory. The author very evidently leaves it open to interpretation as he does many other things in this show. We're allowed to use our own thoughts to process a theory rather than aligning with one character's slip of tongue who hasn't been present until recently. He presumed he's dead. He may not be. That's the point. You don't see the show implying that and that's perfectly okay. I am merely proposing another theory based on the dialogue. You can have multiple theories about any form of media including books. It's not a one box fits all. The joys of media analysis and literary analysis is looking at the possibilities and the subtext and proposing new theories to what's not clearly articulated.

KinsmokeWill

At no point did I say you're not allowed to have your own mind lol. Ultimately I don't disagree with most of what you've said, I just generally try not to assume the worst of people without reason and since we have no understanding of their character, and given the world they inhabit it feels more likely to me that they were killed. It's also possible that I'm so perturbed by the thought of abandoning your family that I have an adverse reaction to the mere suggestion of it. I'd just hate to think that the boy is getting beaten and bruised, as his mother's health is failing all while his dad is somewhere with his feet up 😅. I vehemently reject that reality! 😤

DrSophieDarlingReacts

No I know you're not saying that haha!! I'm just explaining my perspective and how I approach the shows I watch - I like to delve and think about other possibilities available to us in the story based on the dialogue and context provided :') And that's completely fair haha!! I wish I could reject that reality too but my brain likes to add further drama!

Adam

I predict similar comments in every episode he appears 😼

icyfire

Oh yeah we got our breakfast video 😎 Thanks Sophie!

icyfire

I'm pretty sure he ran out.. lol

Username123

That’s why Thors was such a great man, he was willing to accept that he was afraid of war and disliked violence and made the decision to leave the jomsvikings. Unlike ketil who still feels like he’s has to keep up the lie of being “iron fist ketil.” Thors was very highly regarded in the jomsvikings and was even rumored to be next in line to be their leader, so he had all the social pressures placed on him to fit a certain mold but he still had the courage to break out of that and do what was best for himself and his family.

Cirac1

I really interesting concept that is touched on in this episode is that being kind isn't inherently a virtue in itself. Ketil is indeed a kind man, but his motivation for kindness is fear and uncertainty from his own weakness. He isn't kind by choice and personal value, but as a survival technique. It raises the question of "Does it matter why someone is kind, so long as they are kind." Or if the lack of that altruistic sense somehow cheapens the act.

Torje Amundsen

Someone needs to keep a shameless Snake thirst counter at this point haha

Leah Henderson

I certainly have some anxiety about the older son of Ketil and what we might have to see from him in future episodes. >_> As it's three days since you posted this, I hope you're feeling better!

Luís

There's such a calming effect about hearing a woman talking about the bad side of being a man ❤️ It's not that uncommon to hear people talking about about how much crap woman have to deal with, but it feels rare to hear people talking how much young men are suffering too 💔