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icyfire

Something so Shakespearean about the way both Canute and Thorfinn are haunted by their Father figure(s) 🤣

Olivia Newcomb

I love the parallels shown here between Thorfinn and Canute. They've almost changed roles, in a philosophical way.

Mickael Landry

Sophie: "Canute is going to be the selfless ruler, he is going to put everyone else before himself." (S1 EP.18) Honestly, I was really looking forward to teasing you about that haha. 😜 Sophie: "I wonder if we're gonna see the weight and the impact of being king on Canute." (S2 EP.5) Here we are! 🙈 👑 I truly enjoy this episode because it provokes some thought about human nature. The characters of Canute and Light Yagami from Death Note provide striking examples of how individuals, who initially possess a noble sense of justice, can be corrupted by power. Both begin with the goal of aiding the oppressed and dreaming of a world devoid of violence. However, as they acquire substantial power and authority, they become increasingly driven by greed. This moral degradation compels them to make heartbreaking sacrifices, including betraying their own family members (Harald's scene on the bed strongly reminded me of the one between Light and his father) in order to sustain their power and chase their ambitions. Their stories provoke deep questions regarding the essence of morality and power: Did they always harbor this darkness within, or were they altered by the external factors that came with their ascent to power? This inquiry encourages us to contemplate the intricacies of human nature and the potential for corruption that exists within us all when confronted with overwhelming influence and control.

Username123

Interesting to see that being a slave has lead thorfinn into the light and being a king has lead Canute into the darkness. Thorfinn is a slave and has no power meanwhile Canute has nearly all the power in the world now being the king of England and Denmark, can’t wait to see them meet again after how much they have changed since they last saw eachother.

Erjon Sejdijaj

(I truly and honestly did not anticipate this comment would turn out as long as it did... Sorry! I didn't think I had this much to say 😅) Fun fact, all canute backstory segments in this episode (basically everything that looked all pastel coloured) was anime original! A literary device Yukimura is quite fond of, and learns to use much more frequently later in the manga, is to separate the climax and resolution of a given arc across two chapters instead of placing them in one. The first half of this episode is such an example; where last episode was the climax to the previous 7 episodes of development (not counting canute's ep), this episode has the resolution, where we see the effects of the climax. This pacing technique gets used more and more frequently later in the manga (to the manga readers, I notably want to point out chapters 191 -> 192). For some reason not a lot of mangaka do this, and feel the pressure to bookend an arc within one chapter, whereas this method really lets the story breathe. Sidenote: Thorfinn's face when he asks if a world without war and slavery is possible is amazing, deadly serious, not a hint of sarcasm or doubt in it. To separate the two parts of this episode, we get a quote from the bible, and one of the more famous ones at that. This quote contrasts the labour of mankind versus the labour of god. First it asks us what benefit we, the worker, are to gain from all the work we put in. Food, money, comfort, sex, whatever it may be. Then it shifts to god, saying he has put "eternity in our hearts." This refers to the intrinsic human sense that there is *something more* to existence, something beyond the menial treadmill of suffering life puts us through. Then it shifts again, saying we will never know the true extend of this *something more*, due to our innate mortality. Despite our rational comprehension of the eternal, we shall never come to truly grasp it. The reason this quote is inserted where it is, is obviously intentional. Whereas your first instinct might be that it serves as a mood setter, something to relate the coming half of the episode to, in reality it's laid out sardonically. The quote gets critisised purely through its being stated. Why? Because that quote embodies everything Canute grew to hate about god and christianity. This idea that our mortal existence is only a folly to *something more*, that our suffering is meaningless under His virtue. Canute's motivation is to create paradise on earth; to do this is to stand vis a vis with god himself, to go against his creation in its essence. I guess the rest of the episode shows us what kind of toll that takes on a man. Canute's story comes back to the same discussion of discrimination from last season. Just like God does not discriminate his love, so mustn't Canute. Except, it gets perverted. His brother, standing in between himself and his idea of paradise, shouldn't get special treatment because he is his brother; that would be discriminatory. Instead of a non-discriminatory love, Canute's is kind of a non-discriminatory strife. Thorfinn fought for revenge in such a manner to avenge his dad, and now it's Canute's turn to fight for revenge against God himself. The two truly parallel each other to their core. Vinland saga may not be attack on titan coded in its deliberate and in-your-face foreshadowing, so the true extent of the care and planning Yukimura put into his story only truly shows itself after completing the series. Truly not a single plot thread gets wasted, and everything serves as either foundation or climax. These two episodes with Thorfinn quite directly tie into the central climax of the entire narrative, and without them the story as a whole would fall flat. Yukimura even said once that the "Oath" chapter came about due to backwards calculation, starting from the narrative's climax and working backward to see what he had to set up prior. It's insane to do that with such character focussed writing, spanning 4 seasons worth of manga material, and yet it all flows like one stream of consciousness.

Lustful~Mirage

I've been liking the standing up for reactions, you seem much more animated 😄💜

Mickael Landry

Askeladd was a pragmatic individual, willing to do whatever it took to achieve his goals, even going so far as to kill his own father in his sleep and framing one of his brothers for it. I believe that resorting to poisoning to eliminate a target wouldn't have bothered him much. ^^

DrSophieDarlingReacts

Perhaps but it was still by his own hand which is a lot different to poisoning someone :')

Adam

Hamlet

Leah Henderson

Thorfinn: there's something I've always wanted to try... Einar: oh yeah? What? Thorfinn: ridding the world of war and slavery ☺️ Bless him! I want Thorfinn's newfound optimism. I knew Canute was the culprit immediately and I hated being right. I had a bad feeling in my stomach as soon as the Bible verse appeared on the screen. It's so upsetting to see his transformation (internal - obviously externally he looks better than ever 😏) I couldn't help wondering what kind of man Askeladd would see if he could look on Canute's face now. Not the face of a man he would follow anymore imo - not if he's so much like the Danish king he hated. And Canute's underhandedness reminds me of Askeladd, but he's stooped even lower to my eyes. Justice for Harald 😭

Leah Henderson

What a great point about the indiscriminate love the priest talked about... I can't unsee it now!