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Cirac1

Here it is! The moment we've all been waiting for! This part of the story is what convinced me to get "I have no enemies." written in Futhark alongside the dagger in the ground as a tattoo.

icyfire

Fun Fact: King Cnut attempting to stop the waves of the ocean is a real legend that persisted during that time! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Cnut_and_the_tide Also this episode feels like the culmination of the entire series in a way, even though there's still so much to come. Thorfinn has come a long way.

Vivasvan Gautam

Thorfinn using that rageful voice of season 1 against Drott is what always gives me goosebumps. Yuto Uemura (voice actor of Thorfinn) nailed the emotional delivery of scene. Also, Thorfinn said it! He said the line! Honestly I could not have been able to predict any of it. The amount of weight the words 'you have no enemies' will carry with itself in future. This line gets said in episode 2. It gets casually brushed aside by kid Thorfinn. And here and now, it all comes back to him. A perfect circle.

Antonio

I don't think Canute outright abolished or banned the slave trade occurring in his kingdom. In ep 4 he forbade and executed vikings for pillaging and enslaving the commoners because that was quelling rebellion in his domain and he wasn't going to allow the vikings to steal from him and cause unnecessary strife, whereas he has no problem using them as tools of war to ruthlessly kill his enemies when he deems necessary. The acquisition of the farm was "necessary violence" to maintain his hold on England, and he'll coldly sacrifice those lives for his "greater good", but he wont allow the vikings to take (pillage) the houses because he needs the land to be useful and productive. I think Canute truly wants to be a merciful and peaceful king to work towards utopia but he, like Olmar, does not know that there is any other path in this society besides "might makes right" and that's why he fell so deeply into the curse of the crown. Side tangent, it's kinda funny the only reason Thorfinn had to endure 100 punches was because there's some insane gambling addicted viking that decided to bet this random slave would survive 90 punches.

DrSophieDarlingReacts

He's in the process of outlawing it which is abolishing the slave trade. I don't doubt that Canute wants to establish his peaceful Utopia - but at what cost? That's what I circle back to. It's not worth the price he's paying and the untold suffering others are being dragged into. The person he's become is a rapid departure from who he was in S1 but that doesn't mean the path back is unavailable to him. He just needs to be guided back onto the right path. He can't create a peaceful society if he's quick to resort to violence to maintain it. It's an inherent contradiction. Peace by force is not a reality because there will always be a reason to justify violence and to justify the suffering of others. He needs to realise his perspective contradicts his dream no matter how noble it is. After all - the path to hell is paved with good intentions.

evelynnreact

Have been waiting these reactions for months, the story telling of vinland is so well rounded, it's an experience that changed me for the better. I feel like I lived thorfinn's life and internalised how pointless violence is, it's very rare to see a character being badass by his goodness and being icked by battles in a shonen. I can't believe a big part of manga readers thinks vinland sucked after the first season when it's the best by far. I'm jalous of the author. Also at that thorfinn speech because you were so invested you maybe missed the small frame of olmar's face having a realisation when thorfinn said "I have no ennemies", i'm nitpicking a bit but I thought it was wholesome.

Username123

Love how Einar calls out Canute on his bs, no matter how noble your ideals are, do you think the people who you oppress care about them? And love how thorfinn points out the stupidity of war, and how people with no real conflict between each other shed blood for other peoples arguments that they have no involvement in.

Leah Henderson

Banger of an episode! I thought I couldn't be prouder of Thorfinn in the last episode and then we got this one! It's wild to me that I can draw a parallel between Olmar and Thors because, as you said right at the beginning, Olmar broke that cycle when he chose to surrender and not repeat the violence he'd been taught by his brother and father, and it was antithetical to what being a Norse man is. It's exactly the same as Thors choosing to desert the Jomsviking to break the cycle of violence - and more than just acting in apparent opposition to being a Viking, but apparently by pain of death since there was a bounty placed on him as a result! Seeing Thorfinn come full circle to break the cycle, too, is so beautifully done here. And I'm with you and Einar on Canute's crusade. He makes me so frustrated in this season! I watched this episode on my lunch break at work, so I had to get myself together to get back into "work brain", which was difficult when I was so emotional after Thorfinn's speech! XD

Mickael Landry

Great introduction and reaction! 👌 Your intuition has skillfully led you to what was about to unfold. As the story goes, Canute was surrounded by flatterers who claimed his power was absolute. Recognizing the vanity of such claims, he had even his throne moved to the seashore to show them that a king's power is worthless compared to God’s.  ✋🏻🌊 It is a common misconception to view King Canute’s commanding of the waves as a display of madness or megalomania, when in fact, historical records (as noted by icyfire in his comment) suggest it was a calculated demonstration of pious humility. 

Mickael Landry

Wulf 🗣"He doesn’t go to war because he wants to. Once you see him and hear what he has to say, you'll realize what's in his heart." Canute envisions a paradise on Earth, a utopia born from rebellion against what he sees as God's flawed design. He believes humanity, abandoned and lost, is responsible for the world's chaos, exemplified by the Vikings' destructive ways. Canute aims to unify and guide these lost souls, using their strength to forge a new world order, a paradise achieved through any means necessary. To gain a clearer insight into Canute, we should consider the rigid regulations he enforces upon his vassals: no looting, pillaging, or dueling—vices deeply rooted in Viking culture. Each of these must be eradicated from his envisioned paradise. However, to achieve this, he must first subdue all the Vikings and bring them into his realm. Only after accomplishing this will he have the ability to pacify them completely IN HIS MIND, as he will then possess all the power. This is why he justifies himself by stating.... 🗣"I am the only one capable of conquering them, ruling them, unifying their strength, and directing them towards paradise." Like Thorfinn, Canute dreams of utopia (IT HASN'T CHANGED⚠️), but unlike Thorfinn's pacifistic ideals, Canute is willing to use power and even violence to achieve it. He's a progressive king, but one who understands the limitations of his own power, hinting at the immense challenges he faces in realizing his ambitious vision. Please don't misunderstand me, haha, I actually favor Thorfinn's method.🙌 I just want to clarify Canute's reasoning and what is on his heart, to borrow Wulf's words. He wants essentially to be feared by all the Vikings so that he can then subjugate them to his world of peace, that's how he sees it. Like you, I don't agree because many innocent people end up as collateral damage and suffer in the process (Einar has indeed every reason to adress this), but I can see his perspective. Light Yagami has inspired many. 😅

Ethan Tarr

I've been watching anime for over 40 years. This is definitely somewhere in my top episodes of anime ever.

DrSophieDarlingReacts

I have never disputed that Canute has departed from wanting to BUILD a Utopia but he has departed from his previous ideology in S1 of bringing love rather than violence. He embraced Bjorn and showed him a kindness that not many would have dared to do. He was much more open to the aspect of peaceful resolution even resenting the idea of having to assassinate his father to get there. He also refused to have Thorfinn killed and saw slavery as a potential chance for him to at least keep his life rather than be killed for treason. I see his perspective in S2. I understand that in order to be a King there is a pressure and expectation. The departure I speak of is NOT the concept of Utopia but the use of violence and any means necessary to achieve it which causes untold suffering in the process. As I mentioned it's a juxtaposition between a dream and reality. The reality shows that building a Utopia is not as easy as Canute imagined so he resorts to force as the only means necessary. Even going as far as to kill the brother that loved him. S1 Canute would NEVER. However, creating peace through violence is an oxymoron. It's contradictory. That's the point I'm making. There will always be a challenge. Always be a threat. Always another enemy. That's not peace. That's buying time. No matter how many he exerts authority over, there will always be someone vying to covet what he has. Always another excuse for further bloodshed and the use of violence as the first response. So at what cost is this Utopia to be built because Canute's current path makes it unachievable and a departure from what he previously set out to do - which is bring love and peace rather than suffering and violence. We can argue that he understands that violence is always a part of this world and so he meets it with the appropriate response but AGAIN the end does not justify the means. Canute's path is a dangerous one. He is becoming more like his father than he is following his own desire for Utopia which is why we see him taunted by Syven. That does not mean that he cannot find his way back but that his current direction is misguided. After all - the path to hell is often paved with good intentions.

Mickael Landry

While I despise that Canute resorted to killing his own caring brother to fulfill his ambitions, I love the contrast that Yukimura skillfully established between Thorfinn and Canute which is truly the cornerstone of the Farmland Arc, positioning them as two sides of the same coin: both seeking a conflict-free paradise, yet taking completely opposite routes to reach it. Both men aim for the same goal but employ different methods to achieve it. Without giving away too much, the next episode will allow everyone to gain a deeper understanding of these two characters, especially Canute.

Mickael Landry

"Creating peace through violence is an oxymoron. It's contradictory. That's the point I'm making." I completely agree with you, from A to Z. 💯 I believe that Canute has sadly come to the conclusion that the only way to his eyes to make the Vikings, who have been raised under the law of the strongest, comply is to instill fear and place them all under his absolute control, subjugating them through the force of his authority without any second thoughts. And you articulate quite well this is contradictory and delusional. 👍 In this regard, he strongly resembles Light Yagami, who initially believed (before being ensnared by a guilty megalomania) that criminals would only cease their wrongdoing against innocents when faced with some form of divine punishment. Canute does not see any other way to lead violent, brutish beings (like the Vikings) throughout human history towards a peaceful world except through terror and absolute power. After concluding that the world is a cruel place devoid of God's love, he resolved after he became King and faced the harsh realities of war that to create a "paradise on Earth," he must become a "good tyrant" who imposes order through absolute control. The initial ambition of Canute, much like that of Light, is commendable; but, the means to achieve it are highly questionable.

Mickael Landry

🗣"We can argue that he understands that violence is always a part of this world and so he meets it with the appropriate response but AGAIN the end does not justify the means. Canute's path is a dangerous one." I do not want you to think that I condone his actions. I agree with everything you say about it; I just wanted to clarify his thought process if it wasn't enough clear. 😄 🗣"it's a juxtaposition between a dream and reality. The reality shows that building a Utopia is not as easy as Canute imagined..." 💯 I believe this is indeed an important point to keep in mind; Canute the king in season 2 couldn't remain exactly Canute the prince in season 1.  The shift is often inevitable and expected. Once he ascended to the throne, King of England and Denmark, Canute finds himself in a "darker," more practical phase. Having ascended the throne, he fully realizes the sheer magnitude of creating a peaceful, unified kingdom and lost hope along the way for a diplomatic path to achieve his utopia of peace. It is not uncommon to encounter countless stories where princes or princesses had noble dreams, only to shift their vision once they gained power and faced the challenges of the world directly themselves. A series like the Game of Thrones saga serves as a prime example.

Erjon Sejdijaj

I've always wondered what Canute's plan would've been if the waves had actually just stopped at that moment lol. "Well? Did you bear witness to my- wait what" There are a couple major peaks in Thorfinn's character, with the biggest obviously still to come, but even in the grand scheme of the entire manga this scene stands out. Thorfinn, after all these years, finally understands his fathers words. He understands what it means to be a true warrior. Absolute cinema. My brother used to criticize that scene, saying that while it's a narratively great moment, thematically it loses him because it's dependent on Thorfinn's superhuman strength. Like, all well and good that he can do that, but none of us in the audience can, so what's the message here really? My answer has always been that this isn't the endpoint for Thorfinn's character, and that more than anything, this is kinda like his 'Jesus on the cross' moment. He takes on the sins of everyone around him and takes in all punishment by himself. This scene is not meant to be an answer for the reader/viewer, but it's instead an illustration. This is what a true warrior is, this is what it means to have strength. This is the ideal you should strive towards. It's okay if you can't take 100 punches, because maybe there's something else you can withstand that would help someone else. In fact, the show essentially criticizes Thorfinn. Einar outright thinks "is this really how you want to live your life?" This is the first moment in the *entire* show where Thorfinn didn't lead with violence. In the altercation with the retainers, he punched back in rage. In the fight with Snake he was being rational, but still chose to lead with violence instead of anything else. Here, he's found his "first solution," take take on the burden for the sake of others. Obviously, though, this solution is not a be-all end-all. And the season is *still* not over! Absolutely cannot wait to see what you make of the next episode, it might be my favorite one.

DrSophieDarlingReacts

Completely agree! I also think we need to suspend our belief just a little when it comes to Vinland Saga - I mean look at Thorkell! A lot of what he does is superhuman strength and not realistic but we accept it was part of the show itself. Thorfinn is leading by example. It's only in knowing violence can he truly turn away from it both figuratively and literally. If he was not a warrior - he would have died. His knowledge of pressure points and vital organs was vital to him killing the enemy but is now shifted to him being able to withstand violence without reacted. He minutely moves his body to flow with the blows which minimises the damage. Is it a tad unrealistic? Probably BUT I get the point that it's illustrating. That Thorfinn knows violence utterly and completely and still forsakes it because he has risen above that part of himself. He chooses to be the better man by not reacting and withstanding their mockery and violence with an answer of peace. I love him!!

DrSophieDarlingReacts

Oh I know you don't condone his actions haha!! Don't worry!! I was talking hypothetically with the 'we can argue' as in there will be people that DO argue that position - not that you are! :')