Home Creators Posts Import Register Favorites Logout

Content

Files

Comments

Nerd_Power

I would say keep doing the artistic stuff, you're better than sm*t. Hope you didn't loose anybody.

Damien Strunga

You can't please everyone so do what pleases you

the fallen ones

Personally I thought it was an amazing piece please keep doing what you do

Dapper Swindler

That’s fucked. I thought it was a cute drawing

Blaeinger

I thought the joke was funny, but I didn't think the hardcore fucking worked for that character. Please don't be discouraged!

Starspike7

Damn, few bad apples ruining it for everyone

Doug M

Don't stress yourself trying to please everyone. If you're not happy with certain stuff, then don't draw it.

MaybeImADude67

We love whatever you draw, catering to an audience is fine, but draw what makes you happy:)

Lucina Holt

Draw what you want homie, if other people don't like thats their problem.

G0thstrawberry

It was very cute! I was super excited to see you do something outside the normal lewd content!

Hylian Pottery

End of the day, it's your call. But I am very disappointed in the conduct they displayed. If y'all wanna be critics, draw your own sh*t!

TheGael

Honestly, draw what you want when you want and id personally love to see it.

Bill Burdett

This is your own little bit of the internet, you should be able to do what ever makes you happy.

Henry Walker

Hmm... I would not let your patrons dictate what you draw... It is your art after all. Some will not like your art, regardless of what you draw, and that is their choice, some of us will simply like the art because it is art, and because we like your aesthetic. Draw what you like, draw what talks to you; this is what artists are supposed to do.

the fallen ones

Honestly a good take if you think you can do better then do it yourself otherwise let people enjoy what makes them happy lol glad not all of us freaked out, happy new year fellow ironlily supporter

Callyxtus

Draw whatever you want and whatever makes you feel comfortable, I personally thought it was an amazing and cute drawing

wiggles

I write and I once destroyed one of my stories writing for other people's desires. It was a great image done well and a funny little piece, screw 'em honestly. Do what works for you, we're here for your passion and talent not theirs.

FAST Core RPG

We love whatever you do, so just create and we will smile :)

Brendin the Warlock

Don’t let the people censor your art, and if they couldn’t handle bush that’s on them

Karp The Mad

Don't let anyone tell you what to do. If you feel like doing something sexy do it. If not don't.

Chaoscodex199

Draw what you like, and don't try to appease everyone. You'll just burn yourself out, and that's the last thing we want! If you want to draw NSFW stuff, draw it!

InsertCleverNameHere

I will note that, when you ran a poll asking about it, people overwhelmingly voted positively towards the idea. Entirely fair that the idea might get more positive responses than the execution, but it might be worth considering if the number of people that have a problem with it might be vastly outweighed by the ones who welcomed it. Regardless, the actual decision is obviously yours and it's valid if that's just something that isn't worth dealing with.

Jacob

We're here for you and your art! I believe that you should draw whatever suits your fancy. Draw what you want and share it, and it will find it's people!

Daniel Van Meter

It was quite well done! I, for one, appreciated it.

Winchester94

I loved it, and thoroughly enjoy your art

Art Enjoyer

I read through just about every comment I could find, the majority by a large margin seem to be in support.

Herr Kruber

You should really stop trying to appease everyone, because you can't. And it shouldn't be your goal. Do your thing, explore, have fun. And if people appreciate then mores the better, but WHO are you doing it for? Yourself/the art or people here? Personally, I loved the piece and I thought you cropping it in reaction to outside influence was...sad, both from an unapologetic horny standpoint but also as a fellow artist who watches another alter their craft for the sake of...critique?

BerryPatch

Maybe you could create a separate tier for those of us who do like that kind of thing? I think you're very good at it and I was pleased to see it represented! I think it was very nice

Prinz

First of all, apologies if my comment came out as harsh. In my opinion, the artwork is good, it's just not what I expected from this page and I started fearing you'd spiral into full-time exclusive nsfw like I've unfortunately seen many artists do. I enjoy your sfw/non-sexual drawings the most. That's actually what led me to comment in the first place: many artists I support draw pieces I find mediocre once in a while, but I just shrug it off; here, I was afraid I was witnessing the start of that spiralling. I let my fear get the best of me, and for this I'm sorry - and I hope you can understand. If you want to draw more explicit sex drawings, it's fine by me, as long as it doesn't become your main production - but even then, it's up to you. It would just mean I, personally, would stop enjoying your work as much as I do now; however, if you truly wanna dedicate yourself to something else, don't let my or someone else's opinion stop you! Thirdly, I do NOT agree with censoring (cropping) the artwork because someone (including me!) didn't particularly enjoy it. So what? it's a good artwork, I think the full pic should be kept available for the majority who liked it - hell, no, even if those who liked it were a minority! Lastly, I'm seeing a lot of "add an nsfw tier" comments. Please don't, it would just split the community and make it feel even more like the nsfw works are the actual "premium" ones, unless that is indeed the path you wanna pursue. tl;dr: in my personal preference, it's okay if you draw more of these, but I'd prefer your main production to not be nsfw. If nsfw is just an extra, it's fine by me.

Prinz

I don't think this is a constructive approach at all. As long as someone is not rude, it's their right to express a critique on an artwork; moreso on Patreon, where most of us are financially supporting the artists we like.

zip

How about a separate tier? Then those who are not fan of it could avoid the art completely if they wanted. I definitely wouldn't mind seeing more of it every now and then, and I'm pretty sure many agree.

OrangeMarvin

You do whatever works for you, I'm happy to support. I thought it was lovely!

Herr Kruber

And I thought you did a great job of it. Your anatomy is so honest, your blend of cute caricature and realism is truly unique and you made something recognizable, something desirable. I loved the glimpse of vulva on the Perlweiss piece and tbh I'd love to see more of it in your style as well.

bears photo and film

If you brought it just to the paid tiers I think you’ll be fine. I loved the new art and that you took a request from a fan

Warriorcatv2

Really? Who on earth didn't like it? I thought it was absolutely amazing like the rest of your work. Would be a shame to miss out because of a vocal minority but if that's your choice, that's your choice.

Ironlily's Scriptorium

Thank you, everyone. What I want to say is that I’m not blaming anyone, instead, it's my own creative issue. If my idea ends up not pleasing all supporters, I consider that my own mistake, and I would be hard to enjoy it anymore. Just like my previous stance on boob armor.

Karth

I feel like the separate tier idea is good. Then those of us that appreciate the sexual work can continue to enjoy and support it, while those that want sfe can have just that

Salvatore Corasaniti

It looked good! But please draw what you feel, maybe with some nsfw mixed in. You're great at this, and I'm happy whichever way it goes!

Astranacus

I respect that it's drawn and I think it looked great. If people have got a problem, maybe consider it as an additional tier on the patreon?

TJ_Electrician

I loved the post (and most of the other people that commented also loved the post) and I would love to see more! This is YOUR art page and you are entitled and encouraged to post whatever you want! If you want to post more smutty/NSFW things then do it, that is your right as the ARTIST that runs this page! Don't let a few loud voices dictate your artistic vision! If they don't like those type of post they can just ignore them and like your other post and let those of us that enjoyed the post enjoy more of those type of post! Alternatively if it bothers them that much then they are free to take their business elsewhere instead of guilt tripping you into not making art that you want too!

GM

I think you should draw what you enjoy drawing. If people don't like it, they can leave the Patreon. I think more of your patronsenjoy your art, your humor, and your skills than do not.

beakford

It bothers me when fans of an artist complain because they didn't like one piece. No one is going to like EVERY piece an artist makes, but people are difficult that way. Do whatever makes you happy as an artist, I say.

Lucina Holt

Smut is artistic, there's nothing lower or worse about it. Sex is a fundamental part of the human condition and there's nothing bad about depicting it.

Prinz

What the fuck dude? We are perfectly in the right to critique some pieces we don't particularly enjoy.

pseudobody

I'm sympathetic to not wanting to post things that people dislike. Speaking personally, though, I'm a patron because I want to see you pursue whatever you're interested in drawing, not necessarily because I only want to see more of the stuff you already draw. If the issue was specifically people being displeased with outright depictions of sex, I'd like to echo other people suggesting a specific support tier for it.

Michael Bubel

Lesson for the future: DO NOT ASK THE INTERNET. Just do Your thing. Pearlweiss could stay pure, as a contrast to my favourite character :>

Tahvohck

That's understandable. If you've soured on the idea there's nothing to be done about it.

DarkTech

This, what he said

TouchtheSky

Draw what makes you happy. That’s what is most important and beautiful

The Fire Piper

Hey, I liked it enough! I mean, I love your art in general and I love the stories in your art. A NSFW post is a story of what people do in life. We, as people have sexy time, and there should be no shame in it. If I can contribute an opinion, please continue these on occasion, and make each a story like so many of your others. Again thank you for your art and inspiration!

Ironlily's Scriptorium

actually the idea of Perlweiss isn't 'pure like an unicorn', but a wonderful gf (compare to Ebenholz is a gremlin gf). They're very different from the Sisters, they're modern ppl, they're women, they enjoy life, they can have sex.

NamcoManic

Awh man but I liked seeing you try new things

Angelic Hero

I'd thought it was really well drawn. And so did all but like 1 comment that had been posted when I got the notification so it sucks to see you feel this way. I say draw what you want, unless it upsets the vast majority of your supporters then mabe take a second look at doing that kind of work. Same as it would suck to see you give up with your tamer nsfw art just because there's a minority of people who complain about it. (mostly on other platforms)

Maskedowl4077

You're art is amazing! Keep doing what you want!

Samuel Ley

I'm here to see whatever you want to draw Lily. You're a wonderful artist and have inspired me and my writing.

Bito

Draw what you're passionate about. Don't worry about pleasing us. Not everyone will like every piece, but that's art. Even Michelangelo's David has critics. We're here as fans of your work and we want to see what you create, not to censor you.

Joseph Janeczek

If im being honest, I pay to support you and your arts. WHATEVER they are. Remember, people have the option to not interact

clone1743

I'm sorry Ironlily. I am here to support your art. I love your style and the historic aspects you include, and I do enjoy the occasional nude drawing here and there. The art was great. My comment on the announcment post for this and my one dislike for this last piece is specifically about its clear depiction of sex, It is just not something I enjoy seeing, in art or otherwise. like a few others have said, if there were a tier for nsfw content that didn't feature any explicit sex, I'd back that immediately. I am sorry if my comments upset or discouraged you in any way. Please keep doing what interests you, no matter what it includes.

RitalinGamer

I liked it and want more I just wish it hadn't looked quite so uncomfortable. Maybe a couple pieces of armor remived

Blades and ladies

Ehhhhhhh. I had fencing schools blacklist my work because we dared post censored artistic nudity including something I made publicly. The horror. The outrage. The hurt butts. Still, I want to do those shoots, so I do them - just not posting them where the most vocal opinion on them is negative. You had one negative comment (assuming I can count...?) and a ton of positive ones, yet you're ready to throw in the towel. Don't be weak like that - if you want to do such art, do it. Also, if you don't really want to draw stuff like that, then don't. Love you and your work. I'm trying to be supportive. 🙂

Ryan Parker

Those jerks. Don't let them get you down.

silvarknite

what? People not happy? I enjoyed the naughty armor sex scene ^^

Prinz

Hi Lily, I am one of the people who initially left a negative reply. I left a long comment under this post where I articulate my position better; I just hope you can read it because I feel bad and don't want to have left the wrong impression.

Ryan Parker

Hey, could you people keep your negative comments to yourself. You successfully ruined everyone else's fun.

Zigzag

It's very strange when you think about it, no one minds when your contemporaries like Centurii-chan do it. Personally I think it's actually quite tame compared to some of what Centurii does. I think perhaps you've accidentally set an expectation of being a "pure" artist to people who see NSFW art as lowbrow and crass, even though your last work was very tasteful. I would personally not want puritans like that in my community but it is up to you since you seem to care a lot about harmony with all your fans. I support whatever you choose to do, but please be aware some people will never stop with harsh critique because they don't argue in good faith.

Cormacc Brigde

All great art is hated. -Brandon Sanderson

Caldeth

Enjoy life is the most important part, forget the haters in the pursuit of happiness

Xennded

Fffffuuuuuuuhhhh

gellall

i like you job

Shifted

refund the haters and get them out of here. i like your work. always have. always will.

Odysseus' Bow

If they don't want to support your art they don't have to. Don't let people block your creativity and what you wish to share. They can always stop their support if they don't like the direction you wish to take your art

Mazed

Some of us have been burnt before by artists we support going from artistic nudity with a bit of cheek to full-blown hardcore pornography. Any criticism of this, or even the NOTION of criticism, is immediately shouted down by other patrons, apparently the artist's intended audience, for being a "puritan" trying to "censor" the artist. To be extremely clear: Although Ironlily has every right to take that direction, I don't see it regularly happening. However, I DO see traces of the latter phenomenon here in the comments. Something everyone needs to understand is that every artist has the capacity for a certain amount of output, and if that energy starts going to something that not everyone in the audience wants to see, and the focus shifts away from what they DO, it results less of what they're here for. They then choose to move on. This is an issue even if a separate patron tier is made for artwork of that nature. An artist ABSOLUTELY has the right to choose what to create, to work on what they're motivated to work on, but an audience also has the right be discerning.

Christopher Wilkins

So sad to see that people can't appreciate the effort that goes into art.

Prinz

Thank you! You put my thoughts into words better than I myself did in my own lengthy comment in this thread. I've read extremely vile comments, some even suggesting Ironlily to ban people who expressed criticism towards the latest artwork, or calling us "bad supporters" because we dared express a simple opinion without being rude. It's insane. I find it slightly concerning and sad, because I expected Ironlily's community to be more emotionally mature than your average artist's. Apparently I was wrong.

John Williamson

I thought it was great- haters gonna hate. why are they even here then.

Bigdaddyguns

It was well done. If they don't like it, then DO NOT LOOK AT IT!!! Sorry. I am tired of prudish virtue signaling. Keep doing what you want to do. They can unsubscribe and go back to their basements. Rant over. Love your work and can't wait for the next one! 👍👍

Arkanejul

Congratulations, your art upset people. You should be proud of this moment.

Prinz

Oh, here's another one calling us "puritans". I expressed a negative opinion on the original piece. I am definitely not a puritan, as I regularly, ahem, enjoy nsfw artwork. It all comes down to what I expect from a specific artist - I enjoy Lily's sfw work the most, and I was afraid I was witnessing them spiral into being a full-time porn artist like I've unfortunately seen many of my favorite artists do. Can you disagree with this opinion? Absolutely; maybe you'd even enjoy more porn from them. But is it a stance that only "puritans" who "see NSFW art as lowbrow and crass" can hold? Absolutely not. I have been a fan of Ironlily for years, but just cause I support them, doesn't mean I can't criticize their works. They are free to ignore my comments if they want, as I wasn't being rude or anything in them.

Prinz

It's not "prudish virtue signalling". An artist's production amount is limited. I've seen many artists I enjoyed the sfw work of spiral into being full-time porn artists in the past. I was afraid I was witnessing Ironlily fall down the same hole. I have no qualms with nsfw artwork, on the contrary; however, I've seen artists stop doing the sfw art I loved because of their "conversion". This was my, and other people's, concern.

MoldyBuns

I can relate. Perhaps you wanna sleep on it and go through the emotions again. People are jerks sometimes. Though I'd prefer if you continue, I'd understand if you become more reluctant in the future due to the poor experience. But, know that i really love your artwork, and support you drawing what makes you happy. I could never put my own artwork out there because im too self conscious about it.

Okidokey27

Wait There were people who didn't like your idea?

Zigzag

We are all free to hold our opinions, but I will say that it doesn't matter to me that you enjoy NSFW art from other creators. Making a plea to ANY creator you follow of this kind is puritanical. If any - or indeed, EVERY - creator that you follow wishes to transition to making a lot more NSFW art, and you objected in any way, I would 100% describe that as a puritanical take, not a moderate dissenting opinion. I respect Ironlily's wishes to have a inclusive and harmonious community, but I will not refrain from calling something what it is.

Corrado

I appreciated. Maybe you can put on some warning so who don't like can pass over...

Kg133Kg

A bummer but I understand your feelings on the matter, I thought it was amazing and you should do whatever brings you joy regardless of people's opinions.

Zigzag

It is not up to what "you love." Art is the labour of the creator, and the vision lies solely with them. The fact that you describe artists going to NSFW as "spiralling" and "falling" reveals a lot about your perception. The fact that we consider the bare naked body and sexual content "not safe for work" AT ALL is already a shame in our modern society. To try and pretend wanting a controlled amount of it is some sort of reasonable and moderate take is deeply disingenuous.

Medium Normal

I love your art and especially your NSFW stuff.

Zigzag

"Burnt" by artists who rightfully try to correct the artistic norms of our world towards what they should be, which is the total normalisation of nudity and sexuality in all art forms across all of society? You ARE a puritan. Share your views as a patron all you wish, yes, as is your right as a patron. But puritanism and prudishness very accurately describes your views and the views of everyone here who agrees with you, and claiming it doesn't is disingenuous and dishonest.

Zigzag

Prinz, I do not think it would be unreasonable to exclude those of your views from the community at all. As a creative myself, I would not tolerate promoting your values amongst my own followers. Freedom of expression is only legitimate in good faith, not if it's used to propagate values traditionally tied to suppressing it. I'm now very skeptical that your original comments were made from an innocent perspective of discerning taste, and not out of some sort of veiled sense of moral outrage. I sincerely hope Ironlily reconsiders the tolerance of those like you amongst the patrons.

Jack Newbill

Draw what you are comfortable with. Artists who enjoy creating NSFW should be able to without judgement. Artists who aren't comfortable with it shouldn't feel pressured.

WarSloth

I just really enjoy your style of art

Steve Hardy

You did it well Lilly, I don't think you should stifle your artistic expression. If you feel the want to do it then go for it. Don't let others make you feel less than able to fully express yourself.

Yourtime

TBH, I was surprised to see you do this and I liked it, thanks for sharing and I still hope you will continue to do, what you want (in the end, that's the whole purpose of patreon)

Julien L

Just draw what you want. I wasn't fond of this particular drawing but it wasn't a rejection of it nor of NSFW. And many others enjoyed it.

Georg Malter

Maybe add a NSFW tier to the patreon? That way people can curate themselves. Personally I really enjoy your art, and want to see where you take it.

M Staloch

I will considder it a loss to know that you got shamed out of an artstyle.

Mazed

Zigzag is the exact quality of "patron" that I'm referring to that turns discussion of these things into a complete cesspool. Insults, accusations, and general hate. It ruins art communities entirely and has no place here.

Mazed

Zigzag: No one here is saying not to draw NSFW. Every single person here is aware and COMPLETELY on board that a good half of Ironlily's output contains nudity, including myself. They're saying out and out sex acts aren't what everyone wants to see. If you crave pornography and think every artist you follow needs to go that route: Great, that's your opinion. The rest of us are expressing ours.

Mazed

Gonna say it again, since y'all need to hear it: Every single person here is completely on board with the fact that half or more of Ironlily's work features nudity, some of which is sexually suggestive. This includes myself. We know. We've been following them for many years now. Not everyone wants to see actual sex acts. SOME of us do, and are welcome to that opinion, but no more than everyone else is welcome to their own. The attacks, the accusations, the bizarre and misplaced "You offended someone? GOOD!" attitude: stow it. It just makes things worse for everyone, including the artist.

Liroku

Honestly, it wasn't my favorite you've done, but I'm glad you thought to try it, glad you did, and glad I saved the uncropped version while I could. I'm so sorry some folks felt so strongly about this; I welcome anything you'd like to try, including graphic sexual art. It's art, and your art is beautiful.

OrangeMarvin

Reading the comments I do think it’s fair criticism from those who were surprised by something so explicit. I think it would be fair to restrict such things to a higher tier in order to provide an opt-out/opt in.

Zigzag

Because these discussions shouldn't exist, they emerge from a dishonest place and not from one of good faith. I also didn't use any profanity or encourage hate at all, yet you've already jumped to attacking me personally. I'm glad you've done that, though. It demonstrates very clearly the kind of person you are so that I don't have to go through the trouble of explaining it.

Mazed

Discussions about whether or not an artist should depict sex acts in their work *always* emerge from a place of bad faith. You heard it here, folks. Zigzag redefining culture right now.

Stray Goat

I'm with the idea to have a separate tier for that which I will certainly sub to. I hate censorship and repression.

Zigzag

Mazed, what is the line between "tasteful" depictions of sex and pornography? What makes you think you get to decide? I would argue it shouldn't exist at all. Expression itself worldwide has been so constrained by our universally prudish norms to such a degree that we accept blurring nudity as a standard now. Patreon's own rules are an affront to human expression. I don't consider compromising with any of those norms a moderate position. There's an ongoing global effort against censorship, and I consider any betrayal of it in any way to be a betrayal of creativity itself. Such betrayals include sharing views like these and disingenously pretending it's a rational, reasonable, centrist take based on subjective tastes, in order to reshape the narrative. Just as you won't stand down from your views, I will not from mines. Within the rules of this community, I will speak out against any comments by you or anybody else on this matter for the foreseeable future for as long as it takes to dissuade this form of "critique", which I can clearly see now is not meant as positive feedback.

Zigzag

I don't think the rhetoric of you or anyone who agrees with you has been acceptable in any way either. To tell us to "stow it" because your ideas of virtue do not match the rest of ours is hostile and insulting, and I don't think it should be tolerated in any artist's community. But the final say lies with Ironlily.

Mazed

Zigzag, you have a reading comprehension problem.

Thor66

I would happily support this kind of work from another tier as well.

Aaron Hoover

adore it! Was not sure what to expect, but I thought it was a tasteful delivery of what you teased.

SaltyCupcake

It was exactly what I was expecting and hoping for, don’t let a few naysayers dissuade you from drawing what you want to draw!

Randostio

whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat no please draw more or separate the tier, i would happily subscribe

James Nicodemus

Thats probably for the best. Its a bit departed from the mood of your normal art. Keep doing what makes tou happy and damn the whinging minority

Prinz

To Zigzag: I used the term "spiralling/falling into" because for the vast majority of artists I've seen take that route, they've never come back to draw sfw again. It's not a moral issue, I love nsfw art; I'd just prefer Ironlily to keep cooking sfw art as well, and I got a bit scared seeing them take a first step into that other direction.

Prinz

To Zigzag: promoting my values? What values do you see me promoting? I'm the first person who'll admit (even irl) to enjoying porn and other explicit art; my concern was not of a moral nature - and nowhere did I state so!

AJ Maneville

Of course you draw whatever you want, but the 'armour stays on' made it in keeping with your general aesthetic (IMO) and there are so many ways this could go in terms of humour. A shame but please do not be disheartened.

Derufu

Aye you don't have to change your whole gig. Can't get better without trying it. I personally liked the piece. I never saw you try anything like it so what's the harm in testing it.

TJ_Electrician

Why would creating a NSFW TEIR not be a good idea? It's clear that some of the community want to see NSFW material and some don't. With Lily's dedication to keeping everyone happy a NSFW Teir seems to be the simplest and most effective solution, that way that people who want to enjoy her (possible future) NSFW can and the people who don't want to see it don't have to see it.

Panuru

It's the Minoan boobs thing all over again. People have bits, it's completely natural, there's nothing inherently sinful or objectionable there. But I appreciate that it can be kept segregated into the "Bad Sister" gallery so that people don't have to see it if they don't want to see it. Most important is to listen to your muse instead of reacting too much to the peanut gallery. We're here because of you in the first place, not vice versa.

Prinz

I am under the impression that most of the people who expressed a dislike of the Perlweiss post did so for the same reason I did - in which case, adding a new tier doesn't solve anything, as the issue is not about "seeing the post"; meanwhile, most of the comments proposing a new tier came from people who *liked* the post and were misunderstanding the stance the other commenters (me included) had, which seems to be the case for you as well.

Eric Smith

I agree with the ones saying you can separate it into a different tier if people are being upset about it but I think you are one of the best artists for anatomy that I've seen so I don't know how you could objectively think you are bad at it. You do awesome work and I'm sure it took a you a long time to make those skills flourish in the way that they do now so letting your skills on a new challenge languish in this way isn't productive. Keep moving forward and we will all continue to love you for it. ❤️

Midnight Wolf

A seperate tier would be good, I enjoyed it and would happily pay for it

Milo

what?

David Thompson

I thought it was humorous. But you can't make everyone happy so if you don't want to do another that is your choice. Do what makes you happiest.

Milo

I'm perplexed. The comment on the post are overwhelmingly positive. So what did happen? Where have been the protests?

Schrödingers Katze

No idea who was not satisfied or protesting. I think it was good and went well with your usual artistic direction. But if you dont feel it, just do your thing. I support you anyways.

TJ_Electrician

No I think I understand your position clearly. Your main worry (as well as several others) is that this was the start of Lily doing exclusively NSFW material (correct me if I'm wrong in this assumption) and that initial worry was justified. BUT not everyone that expressed dislike expressed it for that reason, there were people genuinely being mean to Lily calling her cheap for doing NSFW and telling her she was better than that, as if doing NSFW was an abhorrent crime. If Lily ever does NSFW again those same people that actually were mean and nasty will probably be mean and nasty again meaning that her posting to the main feed again (even if it's just once and a while like you suggested) will get us back into the same situation of Lily being bullied by the actually mean and nasty people here. Also the fact of the matter is that the vast majority of the community (at least 75% if not more) liked the artwork and wanted to see more. The majority wanted to see more but now we're probably not going to get to because of appeasing the feelings of a minority of the community (again I'm not talking about you I'm talking about you but the actual mean ones) and I don't think that's fair. I don't think it's fair that a vocal minority can cause enough of a fuss that they can get rid of/get censored content that the majority of the community liked. Do you think that's fair? If you think that's fair then this conversation is moot as we're not going to agree on anything, but if you agree that that's not fair then it means we can discuss a solution to the have problem. The problem being how do we let people who want to see NSFW material see it while making sure that people that absolutely don't want to see it don't see it. In my opinion the worry that you had, Lily going full NSFW, while originally understandable is not an issue anymore as Lily has made it clear that if she ever does work up the courage to do NSFW again that it'd be an every once in a while thing, which you yourself said you'd be alright with. So this leaves us mainly with the problem I mentioned above. A NSFW Teir is the easiest and most obvious solution to that problem, if you have a better idea then I'm all ears.

Michael McGuire

there is always the NSFW channel on your discord

Theodin von Wolf

People who don't like "bits" should just put tape over their screen 😅

Quaffnot the Raven

You create art because you love to. We support you because we love your art. However, the fact that we support you because we love your art does not give us any authority over what art you can or cannot do. Our money does not make you beholden to us because we can always stop sending it. It's clear from the comments that many of us will continue to support you if you also start doing some NSFW work (some of us very excitedly). So hopefully you will eventually come to a place where you do not feel like you have to worry about how your followers will react and will choose to create the art that you yourself want to create. It's the art that you chose to create that brought us all here in the first place after all. I'd never want you to create art if your heart wasn't in it. I, for one, will continue to support you regardless of what kind of direction you take your art in because I love your style. If it's applied to SFW or NSFW doesn't matter to me, I like both. I do think that if you wanted to do some NSFW artwork, knowing that some folks don't care for it, perhaps an additional tier would be worth it. I'd happily raise my support level a little to continue to see all your art. I know someone said they were afraid you'd shift to making only NSFW art down the road, but once again, you're not beholden to us. We don't have the right to tell you what direction to take or not take your art just because we give you some money. After all, most of your art you post for free access on your socials anyway. With all that being said, I thought your perlweiss s*x post was quite tasteful. I thought the idea of her keeping the armor on was very fitting, and the way you drew it kept Perlweiss the focus of the piece, not the s*x. It did not feel out of place from the rest of your art, personally speaking. I liked it. Sorry for the long comment, but last thought. I will say I was confused by the poll because I wasn't sure if both responses were meant to be positive or if the Holy moly response was supposed to be negative. I wasn't sure if the post itself was meant to simply be a fun little poll or if you were actually trying to gauge the crowd. So, I guess if you want to use a poll to gage the crowd in the future, I might suggest making it a little more clear. I had ended up choosing Holy Moly simply because I was surprised you were going to do such a piece. But I had nothing against you doing so.

Seán O'Connor

This! Do your art! Fan service-ing the haters by not doing your art only saddens you and those who love your art. 🥰

Christer Hegg

I liked your nsfw art. You should make art that makes you happy.

Plots & Plans

I liked it and would be happy to see more!

Gregory John Fink

My take on this is that you did ask ahead of posting if we, the readers, wanted to see this sort of work. We said sure! now not everyone will be 100% behind everything but for my part I thought it was a fun piece to share. I like the mix of humour and sexiness in this post and would love more like this if you want to share more in future.

MrLowbob

Aww I liked that artwork though! Perhaps I missed something but i felt like most comments were pretty positive or at least "not something that I personally like but it's ok"? Which in the end isn't per se positive feedback but still fine I'd join an nsfw patron tier if needed so those who want it can get it and those who don't take the non-nsfw patron tier

D Smith

Reminds me of when I borrowed a book from the library on ancient history (of some kind, I forget what), to discover that someone scratched out the 'e' on every occasion of the word "sex", so that it literally looked like s*x Just the most bizarre thing...

Jarl Seamus

You will never get 100% on anything. I feel that if you dislike a piece of art from a favorite artist, that's OK, just enjoy the pieces you do like. I wanted to see her escapades, and maybe what nonsense she would get up to with Landsknecht Chan. Maybe make a specific channel in the Discord for smexy stuffs?

Kevin Clark

You draw whatever takes your fancy.

Penelope

It's always good to do the try at least once

Holden Hodgdon

I think it is BS that people would react to a penis as they did ... This page is full of sexual content & the only thing out if the ordinary was that you depicted a female character enjoying hetero-sex.

Holden Hodgdon

There was a few very vocal responses early on, but they have now been overwhelmed by the positivity.