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Hey! I want to hear your thoughts. An over thinking time! (Patreon)

Published:
2026-02-12 14:01:35
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2026-02

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Do you think 500 or 600 years from now... maybe even a millennium later, if someone digs up my drawings, will I influence their perception of history? Will they think I was just creating fantasy, trying to depict a certain lifestyle or history, or just some pieces of slop data? Or perhaps it'll be both, or with everyone having different opinions? Imagine that I'm gone, and all of you are gone too; no one will be there to tell them exactly what I was drawing.

Then, a second question: If you happened to unearth an artwork from the past, how would you figure out the artifact depicts a fantasy, or an attempt to record a certain life?

Recently, since I started drawing gladiators again, I know that 'suggestions' about 'historical accuracy' would start popping up as always when touching Roman themes. It suddenly reminded me of these questions.

However it's just an over thinking time, if future people fooled by my drawing, I might just be cackling in heaven. I often imagine these things while I'm drawing. What would you think when you see my art?

Comments

Thomas Vasquez

I think your art will be like the equivalent of the stylized art we see in manuscripts or treatises: based in fact but with liberties taken!

FrontlineSpark

I'd like to think they might've found a tried and true way to detect it. I know it won't ever fully go away.

Isaac Martinez

Both. The Odyssey. the Twelve labors of Hercules. Atlantis. Fantasy works that were believed in their time as true stories. Stories get naturally distorted, as the person retelling the tale is different each time. But the past is only a foundation to build a future you desire. What they do with our present will be the future responsibility.

Juan E

TLDR: I think you'd be classed with Hokusai. Assuming the entire historical record isn't lost, just a little clouded, I think your work would fall into historically inspired art, and possibly a lost Manga series. I could see some excited researchers saying, "We know the texts exist somewhere, we just haven't found them yet." I could most easily see your works being classified as part of an educational series on the ancient past. Works that are too different in style from the originals, but faithfully bring then to life in a more contemporary art form.

APL

Long term data storage statistics are pretty grim.

bears photo and film

It would be cool to see if your art did, I hope the same for my photography stuff. Especially the portraits as those tend to get passed down generationally

John Bennett

I’ve often thought about this with my own art, where I create 3-D models of historical warships. I think: what if they just find my little model, and that’s the only evidence they have left for that ship? Am I polluting the archeological record? Hopefully they would be able to look at it, look at its means of construction (3d print) and be able to tell that details below a certain size were not capable of being represented. Hopefully they will be able to see that this was a toy and not an architecturally perfect representation. But even in the absolute worst case scenario, where my little toy is the only remaining evidence and every other record has been lost to time… I wouldn’t feel bad for subtly misrepresenting it. Despite the fact that my representation wasn’t perfect, if it is all that they have then it’s at least doing the work of preserving some of the history of that ship!

Andy Tolan

Just consider also that you may be providing details that could be verified but not rediscovered independent of your drawings. You are recording arms and armaments, equipment, clothing, names. You are not providing dates when you give real places or places when you allude to real time periods. A responsible historian would take the good and leave the bad. Just as we do with King Arthur.

Matt

I hope so

Panuru

This always bugged me in my Roman history class. Something like Aeneas was presented as Romans actually believing it, but I wondered how we know it wasn't the equivalent of Harry Potter. At any rate, I think the concept of fictional liberties has been well-established in our cultural stratum. Future researchers will probably assume everything is either a shitpost or a thirst trap.

Cormacc Brigde

I don't think you are overthinking. I have a have similar thoughts about my reenactment group. We have an event called Pennsic. It has happened in the same location annually for about 50 years. We have about 10,000 people for 2 weeks. Now lets assume the internet is no longer a thing. And Archeologists can't just look it up. Then the find this site where there are thousands of fire pits, thousands of sump hole, people cremated remains, and lost or discarded artifacts from over 1000 years, some actual period pieces. Some replicas. What will those Archeologists think?

Dr. Steelworth

I can imagine that a historian would look at your work and assume you liked the esthetic of medieval times and female anatomy. Especially if they had more info about our time period and how a decent amount of art was had more inspirations than original styles. Still, they'd be surprised and even embarrassed with how much nudity there was

Quaffnot the Raven

It's a good question, honestly. I think it's important to remember when looking at historical art that propoganda is very much always a thing. It varies in effect of course, sometimes it's not painting a skin blemish when making a portrait, sometimes it's making a powerful figure seem larger than life to emphasize their power, sometimes its depicting them as a god even. Determing fact from fiction in historical art will always require additional cultural and historical context, and the further removed from that time we are the more difficult it may be to find enough context. So, I think it wouldn't be unreasonable to say that that far into the future someone might think your art was a faithful reproduction of history, especially if they only saw your art but not your posts and comments. Obviously, if they went digging enough to find your explanations, they'd have authorial record of intent that could guide further study into the history of what your art is depicting. When they find historical works you reference or a lack of historical record of your own fictional characters that corroborate your explanations, they will have a better idea. Like, think of Homer's Iliad and Odyssey. Definitely seem to be works for fiction but a lot of the locations actually existed even if the characters appear to not have. But we only have that reasonable certainty by finding the real places and not finding records of the characters.

Yannic Jaeckel

I don't think that any digital media will survive this long, if I look at the poor state of data from barely 50 years ago. But, assuming it would somehow survive, archaeologists and art historians will treat it much the same way they treat historical images and finds nowadays. If they have an ounce of integrity and scientific rigour to them, they will try and corroborate it with other contemporary sources like texts and other images to gain an understanding of the time when the work was produced, i.e. the 2010s and 2020s. It would be very poor scientific work to treat recreations of anything as a valid primary source. It would be like us treating everything antiquaries like Violet-le-Duc or Victor Hugo wrote and drew about the Middle Ages as a depiction of what really transpired. As for your work influencing public opinion and perception of the Middle Ages, I would much appreciate that, given that the public opinion usually means something like "dirty", "drab", "grey" and chamberpots thrown out of windows. So keep it up :)

Corrado

Men of the future will be like those of the present: they see boobs, they put like! 🤣😜

The Fire Piper

As a former professional archeologist, I would suggest a funny perspective on exactly this - 'Motel of the Mysteries' by David Macaulay. However, I like to think archeologists and historians are better at interpretation than back when I was in the trenches. That being said, looking at real medieval manuscripts and comparing it to actual artifacts do show a disparity. Art style and experiences of the artist don't always match to reality of what actually existed. Depictions of armor in manuscripts are sometimes hilariously debated in detail, but because of the rarity of real examples, you may have to go with what the artist was trying to depict. I will say that if historians find your work in absence of other examples, like if there was an apocalypse and it wiped out most other sources, they will painstakingly debate on your interpretation and probable accuracy...

Michael McGuire

I'm pretty sure that in 500 years, if people aren't hooked on the latest cave art, will know more about the real historical setting and think that anything we do today is a quaint reflection on our current aesthetic values. That said, an IronLilly coffee table book on sale in the museum giftshop would be cool.

Marcus Aurelius

I'll answer the second question first. Any time that I see artwork, or stories, or other depictions - even if it's a culture depicting itself - then I know it's fantasy. Art arises from emotion, and emotion isn't objective. That doesn't mean art isn't valuable; it tells us so much about how people view things, and what emotions they want to evoke, and what stories they want to tell us about themselves and their world. I'd hope anyone who finds your work in the future views it how I do: a loving interpretation of an older world. Not obsessed with putting it on a pedestal or talking about how terrible it was, but layering it in bright colors and adorable women to show it through a lens of joy and wholesomeness, to bring it to life in a way that a dry and boring depiction could never hope to achieve.

Mian

I feel like your art pieces would end up being seen as a fantasy version of how some in our current time imagine earlier ages. Art historians would find these art pieces not on their own. They would find more art from many different people and would be able to build an understanding of the range of art pieces from our curreng era.

Dr Razno

Hopefully, a digital historian would also be able to see your commentary and discussion - maybe even this post! If they're able to see your body of work in context, they'd probably be able to work out what you're up to. If there's any place where going a little wild and flamboyant would make sense, I'd think gladiators would be it! When I see your art, I think of the ladies as sort of idealized humans doing the things people once did, with more detail and care than the average fantasy artist. There may never have been an abbey exactly like yours, but when you draw the sisters training, suiting up, illuminating, and other things, you're giving an honest interpretation of the past! Does that make sense?

Steve Hardy

I think if it's found and observed, we'll look at it like we do ancient art today. Like someone's creative interpretation of things.

Ryan Parker

It's so hard to tell. A lot of what we find and study is random. Just what happened to survive. We try and contextualize everything in a way.

JHB

I think you're overthinking, but as long as you are doing so, you might as well read up on the "Roman salute", which was not part of Roman practice but was invented by artists more than a thousand years later and is still wrongly associated with the Romans.

Doug M

As others have said, long term data storage is not good, so your work could be surviving without anything else to compare it to. This means it could be subject to wild interpretation, especially if people mistake which century the work was produced in.

Gray Imaginings

They'll likely be considered by some as "Ceremonial art" and others as evidence of alien-human hybrid gladiator games.

Christopher Wilkins

All Art is an exploration of Beauty. Beauty is the recognition of Truth by the Divine Spark within us. Artists channel and make effort to express Inspiration from past, present, and future simultaneously in a Nexus of Creation. A brief reflection of a moment. In that moment, a oneness with the spiral of All.

Henry Walker

First bit and a bit of the second, so long as the data storage survives, and there are arguments for and against on that one, I believe your images will be seen as an interpretation of the past, possibly in the same vein as "Roman de la Rose" and its images from the medieval period. When I see your art, I see an interpretation of the past. There are many interpretations of the past, some produce them in movies, some in re-enactment. The only things which are truly "authentic" are those from the past. I find your art to be a pleasing way to scratch my historical bug, and get to look at some cute girls along the way. I know where the boundaries exist between the "authentic" and not, I was trained to do so, and to interpret the data left behind by those who came before us. I find your art a nice way to appreciate an interpretation of the past without having to slog through a stack of books, and without being concerned whether it is *perfectly* authentic, because that, is a myth (unless you were born several hundred years ago).

The Hobby of Chris

In a millenium's time when the archaeologists dig up another one of these strange 'ritual' arctifacts maybe a bright one of them (or incredibly lucky to find a working one) and get it working and gaze in awe upon the (it must be ) 'alien' technology we used to possess and maybe if he's bright guess it was something like their present Data stack cubes and used for that mysterious Internet thing they used to talk to the gods . Who can say? Maybe they will view these as cave art and wonder what they were for.

Nerd_Power

I never thought of that.... Excellent questions. Hopefully your art, and other art, will survive and who knows? It may even rekick off an Anime Renaissance.

Stephen Lindholm

We've reached the age of recording everything and with stuff like the Internet archive I don't think the context of your work will ever be truly lost as long as humans have technology.

Seabag

I think that you would definitely be a favorite topic among scholars and nerds of the future much in the way some folks in different areas of historic study nowadays enjoy seeing references in cartoons of the 40s and 50s, tropes and daily life from the 20s and 30s. Or like Michigan j frog from the looney tunes with the song he does, the joke, and that song played in the 50s, is a reference and a joke actually from when telephones were legit first invented in the late 1870s, a nearly 80 year old joke when it was told again. I think that future scholars will see your works in relation to their particular fields of obsession and study, and really enjoy the snapshot from our own time of a crossing of roads of history and art. But I dunno, I think you are doing a wonderfully memorable job of things. I certainly won't forget the work you do.

ojodehalcon127

Well, I really wouldn't be able to tell you. It's a fact that when an ancient drawing or bas-relief, or even a vase, is discovered, we have no certainty that what is represented in them is "historical" or an interpretation by the artist of a fantastic event.

RitalinGamer

It depends on how much other data is recovered. If they have enough context, it's obvious this is just fantasy. If your art is a good chunk of what they find, the conclusions get... interesting. "Ah yes, you can see from the 21st century art we recovered that this was a time where large eyes and childlike features, similar to the East Asian "Ann-nee-may" aesthetic were the feminine ideal, but in the West there is also the ideal of women being paradoxically muscular and assuming previously masculine roles as warriors. In this paper, I will argue that gender roles in the dark age of technology were both loose and constrictive..."