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Poll- Talking Heads, No Talking Heads, or Secret Option 3 (Patreon)

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2023-07-05 16:00:07
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2023-07-05 23:01:20
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Poll- Talking Heads, No Talking Heads, or Secret Option 3

  • No Talking Heads 172
  • Talking Heads Throughout 1180
  • Talking Heads At The End Of The Episode 334
  • 2023-07-03
  • —2023-07-08
  • 1686 votes
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Content

Hi everyone!

As you know, BGC has had a bit of revamp since we got into the new studio, and one of the changes has been adding Talking Heads to the Uncut eps you get on Patreon. 

We've seen some support for it, some against, so in the interest of lovely James only having to work on one format and not have his brain fall out, here's your options

1) No Talking Heads

2) Talking Heads, dotted throughout the episode

3) Talking Heads, put at the END of the episode in one big batch

Voting will run until Saturday and will take immediate effect in next week's BGC

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Comments

J.R. Wall

Heads up; while I'm no fan of the talking heads and want to see them gone, you have effectively split the pro-talking head vote. EDIT: Well, I can see the direction this is heading. Time to unsubscribe. I no longer see the value of my subscription if I can no longer relax to a NRB video. Instead I got to hang around my my keyboard and mouse anticipating the next part to skip. These weekly videos are about 80% of these reason I subscribe, and if I get the same compromised value from the edited version, there's little reason paying money for these videos anymore.

Graeme Wells

It adds so much to the program. To see the little bits. Ita fun as well

Martyn

Serious question: what is easiest for James?

Shunk

I love the talking heads personally. It adds context and entertainment.

Angus Noble

The reason I stopped watching the uncuts was because I felt like I was missing out on the strategy explanations and the comedy sidebars from the main episode in exchange for shuffling cards and incidental banter. While I love the natural banter and tangents that make sense to cut, I preferred having the full content there for me as well.

Allison James

Not included or add them at the end for me. I don't enjoy them myself, and wouldn't enjoy having to FF through them through every Uncut, but I support other peeps having a way of still getting to see all of the footage for sure.

Angus Noble

That's a long way of saying I like the talking heads.

Quinn Hogan

As a note sometimes the talking head placement is poor and spoils upcoming turns in the game - in the BGC before this Sully had a BGC after his first turn saying how he and Laurie were a good team even if they fail sometimes dispite not failing yet thus telling us the result of the next turn I'm a big fan of the talking heads just a note on placement tho

Phil Higgins

I'd love to see talking head blooper reels at the end on the uncut for old school credits on VHS/dvd vibes, but talking heads throughout, they really add so much to the regular cut

DasGanon

I am not a talking heads fan because I liked the uncut episodes being uncut, but if you are going to include them can you please add chapters to the episodes so we can skip them and go between game rounds & phases?

mrw2711

Literally the exact same for me which caused me to briefly consider whether or not I wanted to continue on with the Patreon but there were enough more rewards to keep me going. No matter what you do please guys do not fully get rid of the talking heads they had so much more engaging content.

Steijn van Doorne

No i dont think so. Option 3 is not even close to Option 2 in viewer experience imo

J.R. Wall

It's still pro-talking head; just as a compromise in its placement.

Gonzalo Valenzuela

Talking heads at the end seems like a good compromise, but I don't thinks it's going to have that much support

Spirit Bear

To me, the talking heads are a part of the flavor that makes it NRB. I say include them where intended. As another poster mentioned, seeing some of the talking head bloopers at the end would be a real treat!

Rich

Love the talking heads segments!

Jason

The thing about the talking heads is when they’re bad they’re bad, but when they’re good, they’re channel-defining – let’s have ’em.

Jamie Tuckett

Not a talking heads fan, if I wanted to see them I can go to the non-patreon videos.

Christopher Stacey

Personally Im not a huge fan of talking heads cause they are already available on public version and I do believe it's nice to add variety to give patreons more changes to make it worth the price more. However option 3 is a great compromise as people who think they are missing out will now see them and people who don't like them can stop watching before end. But the 3rd option does kinda split the no talking heads voters between no talking heads and the compromise. So unfortunately no talking heads stood no chance

Goalie

I voted pro talking head, I’ve had conversations with those who are VERY adamantly against them- I’m willing to put them at the end or find a compromise. I think many who chose the first option are. Unfortunately many against talking heads have made clear they will unsub completely if talking heads exist in any form and we should watch two videos instead and try to stitch together mentally, I wish we could find a middle ground to keep things whole.

Michelle Bertram

Yeah I don't like the talking heads. They break up the flow of the game. If Talking Heads wins, I suggest adding them as chapters in YouTube to make them more easily skippable.

Adam Gough (greasykid1)

I have very little preference in the matter, to be honest. I like the non-taking-head version because it gives me additional reason to watch the YouTube version as well ... 😁

Mike Hughey

I really enjoy the talking heads, they make viewing more interesting than just "watch someone else have fun without the option of joining in," which is my personal idea of hell. But that's on the regular channel; I feel like the whole point of an "uncut" video is that it be, you know, *uncut.* So that's what I voted for. A big block of them at the end is an interesting idea, but I think a lot of segments would lose meaning being removed from the context of what was happening in the game at that time.

Laine McCurrin

Definitely talking heads throughout, but I also love the idea of all of it at the end. All of that uncut would be lots of fun. I didn’t vote for that, though, because I don’t think it will be as entertaining without the immediate context of the gameplay.

Junior Stevans

I like the talking heads but they need to be focused and quick if they drag or not particularly funny or insightful It can pull me out of it

Goalie

Steve I’ve suggested this in the past. One problem is sometimes it’s just a talking head here and there. But some episodes you’ll have three or four rapid fire interspersed in with a minute of content. With a 1.5-2hr time window, that won’t be easily skippable or even viewable on the YouTube time scrub. I’m pro heads but even I can admit that would be onerous for your side.

Martin Burch

I voted option 2 - Talking Heads throughout. I like the talking heads sometimes (they sometimes add entertainment and comedy, flavour, and flesh out the character of the cast members), and I prefer to see them at the point in the game where they are relevant. If they were all together in one chunk, I don’t think I’d bother watching them. But it seems from reading the comments here and elsewhere that people who don’t like the talking heads feel much more strongly, even to the extent of possibly unsubscribing. I would be willing to compromise to avoid losing Patreon subscribers. I would also be willing to compromise to lighten the load on James the editor.

Ernesto Regalado

I, like I've heard others say, enjoy the talking heads enough that I mostly watch the free video and skip the Patreon videos. If you were to add the talking heads in some capacity to the Patreon video it would instantly add more value to my subscription.

Angus Noble

I dropped down to the lower tier because I wasn't watching them 🤷‍♀️

Simon Hicks

I voted no talking heads, if I want to see them then I'll watch the non-patreon version. I don't mind them as there's not too many on NRB, I didn't like Wil Wheaton's Tabletop because it seemed like there was a talking head after each players turn and it really broke up the flow of the game and table talk.

Emily Hogarth

I voted 2, but I'd be okay with 3 too as a sort of post-game thing, or having to watch the non-Patreon version to get them. I definitely don't want you to anger the people who vehemently hate them. :(

MZA

I appreciate the effort at democracy, genuinely great that you guys are crowdsourcing this decision, but I'm so allergic to the talking heads segments that, if they're not at the end of the vid, I would just stop paying. Sorry if that sounds ungrateful, I truly love the content you're putting out, but it's a dealbreaker from my pov. Really hope you can find a way to cater to all (without breaking poor James in the process!)

Laura Dewar

Please do add a way to skip them easily (as I get a sense from the poll that it will go the way of adding them back into the uncut version). It's a shame as the talking heads are already in the shorter videos for those who do enjoy them. For me the uncut is for the more natural take of the game and having people talk randomly to camera in the middle of a game spoils that. I don't understand what the value is of having them - the game mechanics and strategy as well as the jokes are already in the main cut.

Simon Renshaw

Not a big fan of the talking heads but would not mind getting them at the end.

Nattie

Talking heads throughout is definitely my preference. It's an extra layer of fun and I always miss its absence in the earlier uncut episodes. Putting them at the end would be acceptable, but I much prefer them slotted into place.

Hannah Winter

Dissapointing, now both versions will have them in. Though please, for the love of God, do not put any talking heads that refers to anything that people that are playing in the game don't know, like cards in hand or their strategy or what team they are on. Anything that spoilers the content.

Jeff McLeod

My logic is this - NRB is for entertainment of the people AND gameplay. Patreon videos exist because in the regular videos, they cut out fluff that doesn’t affect gameplay, either admin or rules lookup or whatever, but they do or say something entertaining during those bits anyway. THATS the value of the Patreon videos - extra entertainment. So to me it makes no sense to have added bonus entertainment footage but then take out the regular bonus entertainment footage.

Simfers

I voted for option 3. I like the talking heads, others don't, this seems to be a fine compromise.

Micah Newby

I am of two minds on the issue; on the one hand I totally understand the level of connection achievable with an uninterrupted game played by good friends that know each other well and have great chemistry and amazing senses of humor On the other, I can also understand being here more for those good friends/their bits and bants and less for the game, and therefore feeling like "I paid my money, dagnabit, so uncut means "No👏content👏cut👏out👏" "If you want the talking heads, just watch the free version" is a valid consideration.....for some. Others have two jobs, or families, or other reasons (that they owe no one, yet are valid) why they cannot watch two full episodes of BGC a week. That's why I post the timestamps on the free version when I watch it; it seems like the best compromise I can do as a well-intentioned fan with sufficient time. After all, some of the best laughs I've gotten are from the talking heads. I mean, Sullivan literally THIS WEEK Whichever side of the aisle you fall on, I hope you can see yourself to resisting the urge to unsubscribe if the opposite thing is done. They produce content worthy of our support, and while it may (and almost inevitably does) change, it is not "for no apparent reason" and is not done lightly

craig

Not a fan of them personally, but glad to see this getting sorted democratically! Let’s not be arseholes over whether a YouTube video has a bit of talking or not haha.

Phil Watkins

My vote was 1, no heads in the uncut Patreon vids to enjoy pure uninterrupted gameplay. Then rewatch the general release YouTube video later with heads, best of both worlds.

Thaddeus Wenger

I voted for No Talking Heads because I always watch both versions and I much prefer the non-scripted content anyway. It’s strange how the comments section does not seem to reflect the poll. Looks like the silent majority likes the talking heads. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

whenitmatters

Wooooooo I love the talking heads, this will be a fun addition!

Adam Hall

I love the talking head and I don't have time to watch the same video twice

SirTof

I feel this vote should of been for the $10 or above as they are the ones who get the unedited BGC it’s no point $5 peeps getting a say in it

Callum Moran

People who are saying they will unsub if they add talking heads. can I just ask, what's stopping you from just skipping forward 20 seconds when they show up (with it being in YouTube). You still get the "uncut" version due to there being no cuts during set up and so on, just an honest question as I imagine you guys used to skip them before subbing in the first place.

Gabriela Diaz

I like talking heads, especially in short bursts. Non scripted content is more compelling to me, but sometimes a talking head bit is a welcome comedic touch. Just perhaps less frequent/long

Virgil Alighieri

Look, I'm not going to unsub over the talking heads. But to everyone asking why we can't just skip around, I frequently put these videos on in the background. To have to skip around 15-20 seconds 5 or 6 times an episode is just annoying. I feel like at the end is a fine compromise.

Will Seamon

For a while, I would watch the uncut versions of videos and then go read the comments for the public version. A ton of comments on the Terrorscape video were along the lines of “OMG I loved that Tom cameo at the end!” It took me a few minutes to realize it was a talking head, and by watching the version of the show I paid extra to see, I had missed what many in the comments deemed a highlight of the video. This is to say: talking heads please, that way we’re getting all of the video content in one place.

Sally November

With or without taking heads can we know who each team or person is beforehand? For instance in the French/English episode I wanted to know who was who in the beginning. Loads more fun to watch that way.

Mike

I have absolutely no clue what this means, so not sure what to vote.

Suizie

I'm so invested in bringing talking heads to the uncut videos. Literally begged for this for ages, it's such a bother to have to watch two videos at the same time, having to try and find the heads in the normal video. I think people having to tap forward a few times to skip heads if they dont want the content is probably easier

David Porter

Extra talking heads if anything lads

Shiiva Wilding

Put them at the end, don't interrupt the video. No, I don't want to fast forward through them, I'm paying to have them removed from my content.

Emir Samardzic

It seems that the comment section does not reflect the poll indeed. I voted against talking heads. As someone mentioned before, what do they actually bring? Mostly spoilers, in hidden role games, more work for James, forced humor. NRB guys are most funny off the cuff, bouncing off of each other. In talking heads they need to be funny, on the spot, basically be forced to be funny, and it shows. Sully is a great example, amazingly funny during gameplay, and amazingly not funny in talking heads, as it's just not his thing I guess. Of course, this is just my taste and my opinion.

Grumbungus

Add more talking heads, make it sting.

roro

Difficult decision! I love the talking heads - they often add so much to the comedy and story to the episode and in the past I’ve skipped over watching the uncut (that I pay for!) because watching both versions of the video would take too much time. However some people seem to feel really strongly about this and I don’t like all of the division this is causing, so ‘secret option 3’ does seem like the best compromise to me.

Lee Dellbridge

Talking heads throughout. At the end would be confusing.

Lee Dellbridge

You're paying for extended episodes...

Graham Butterworth

Talking heads throughout! They gave us the infamous “Do You Have Any Lemons?!”

GoldenRK9

Don’t you dare threaten to take them away. Throughout 100% If there is a secret option 3… give us that too!

Josh Giles

If you want to be that pedantic we are paying for uncut episodes not extended.

Josh Giles

I must admit, if it weren't for the patreon BOTC I would too. I am sorry guys I love every member of NRB but the awkward scripted moments just completely pull me out of a video. I love uncut because It feels like being part of a group of people playing a game. It's the entire reason I kept bouncing off of NRB, the awkward cut to some cringe scripted line would immediately put me off and I exit out; it applies even to videos that now having seen uncut I now love. It was only during a particularly flush month (and thus willing to take a risk) that I got patreon subbed to see if it was the talking heads on a spur of a moment. Now I am a committed NRB follower who will hoover up every piece of content you put out. I get it, it seems a silent majority want them, so I will try and just skip through (not always possible easily depending on what device I am using and what I am doing at the time). I get the reason people don't see it as an issue to skip but just want to explain why I disapprove/disagree *shrug*.

Shiiva Wilding

The language has always been uncut, not extended.

Russell Sellers

So talking heads would be when they cut away from the game and it's one of the players talking about the game, or doing a skit or some such. This would mean that option 1, none of that, option 2, how it is in normal BGC. And option 3 would be them all at the end. I hope that helps!

Pockett

I’d be really sad to see the only option to watch without talking heads disappear, that seems unfair for people who joined to see a truly uncut version of NRB videos Edit: option 3 seems like a great compromise, if it’s not too much editing work

Steve Skew

The talking heads really give their comedic excellence a chance to shine. Love them, keep them, give me more!!!

Generic Name

I love the "confessional" bits, but if people want to watch without them, maybe release 2 versions, one with, and one without?

Suizie

I don't recall them ever spoiling that in talking heads

Suizie

Seems like a lot of pro talking heads also compromise, I just think more people want talking heads in general 🤷‍♂️

Suizie

It does mean of you want both the extra content and talking heads, you have to watch the same video twice

Suizie

I have considering dropping my Patreon as well because I wanted to watch the talking heads and it was such a bother to watch both videos. But the botc content kept me here, and i do love the uncut videos, I just need my heads, so looking forward to having them put in ❤️❤️

Lindsay M.H.

Is it weird that before this conversation, I never realized they weren't in the uncut versions until now? I'm cool with them or without, but honestly think at the end as an optional watch is a nice compromise for those who like them.

Lindsay M.H.

For the record, this won't impact my patronage in any direction, but I do think at the end is a nice compromise for those who like to watch them.

deddmann

just gonna say i don't watch the Uncut versions, so voting on it seems disingenuous. at the end is probably okay as a compromise, but the context would probably be lost. hopefully a solid compromise can be achieved. i never thought this specific thing would be so divisive among 1400+ patrons.

Hannah Winter

Someone had said it has happened before, though it is possible that because of that they haven't.

Emir Samardzic

I agree, at the end would be a good compromise.

SorceressFeraly

Personally, I'd prefer that the deleted parts from the public version gets added as a separate "deleted scenes" Patreon video. Looking at the poll, most people seem to want the talking heads (and I am among them), but it's kind of sad that it removes the option for those that don't want them.

Jacqueline Sookermany

It's a sad attempt at a bullying boycott. There is quite literally no reason to withdraw support (and miss out on 30-60 minutes of bonus content you presumably genuinely enjoy) over having to double-click a screen to skip 10 seconds.

Jacqueline Sookermany

Didn't even know about this because, despite what the "go watch both versions if you want the talking heads" people seem to think, I have a life and don't bother to watch the YT versions when I've already watched the uncut! Haha, but for Tom I'll go sift around for the bit :p

Jacqueline Sookermany

the language doesn't change reality. There have always been minor noticeable "cuts" in the "uncut". It's extra content and not "without talking heads" content or "unscripted" content.

Jacqueline Sookermany

I think the lack of reflection is that.. the people who want them have been asking for them for ages and now see that they (should) actually get them. And people who don't are seemingly much more vocal and--in some cases--vindictive. That comment about Sully is also... extremely rude. You do realize these are people who do scripted content for a living as well, right?

Emir Samardzic

Because, as most people mentioned, until now, everyone had a choice. If you want talking heads, or if you don't, there was an option for both. Now, people who don't want talking heads will have literally no option. That is the biggest issue. Putting them in the end of the video could be a middle ground, but then people who want talking heads throughout would not be happy about it. There is no "win-win" in this situation I'm afraid. As for comment about Sully, yes, I know they do scripted content for a living, which doesn't mean anything really. A lot of people do a lot of things for a living, and there will always be people who are better or worse at it than someone else, that's life. I said it's just my personal opinion, some people like horor movies, some don't, it's simply a matter of taste.

Micah Newby

Go to the content section, look for my name. It's the last timestamp

Nicholas Ball

I like the talking heads but it would be good to keep them AND the one without talking heads. That shouldn't be more work

causticjuice

With chapters though it doesn’t need to be skippable on the time bar, when you click on them, it opens a list of timestamps that you can click on to the side on a computer or tablet and below the video on mobile. So I think it would still be a good idea and useful for those who dislike the talking heads (of whom I am not one, btw).

Mr. Samuel Scratch

It's a nice idea, but I feel like without the context of the moment, the clips don't hit as hard.

Lindsay M.H.

I think generating a ton of extra work is maybe not our coolest move when we are here to support them. Similarly, perhaps time stamps on the main video is an option to go watch them. Just not jazzed by seeing so many comments of people basically saying they'll stop being patrons without this without recognizing it means way more work for the editor.

Lindsay M.H.

Right? I'm truly baffled by this being such a big point for people.

Lindsay M.H.

It is more work to have two "uncut" versions of the show. The editor is presumably editing things out and adding the talking heads at the same time. Creating an uncut version of the show with talking heads would mean literally recutting the episode.

Hannah Winter

You can't exactly deny that there is also a distinct lack of reflection from the people who want them too, given that not only did someone comment 'Add more, make it sting' and it get 5 likes. I was passionate in the threads before and gave the reasons why. It also doesn't help that everyone keeps saying 'press fast forward'. You know what the actual solution for people who don't like the talking heads now we know they will be included that is so much better than having to constantly interrupt the viewing experience. That's watching them and I don't know why people aren't selling that as a suggestion. There are people who subbed for the lack of talking heads, which have been the case since the Patreon first launched after they went to draughts and people losing something they had does causes stronger reactions. This is a well known psychological phenomenon, and them being included recently has also meant people who want them also now have that feeling of loss if they were to go. Anyone who was mean about Sully though can get in the bin

Hannah Winter

The basic editing isn't too bad, but it's the publishing and post editing which makes things harder. Each video takes time to upload, being several hours, and if say a line in the episode has personal info or something else that needs chopping out last minute then it would require 3 edits instead of 2. Also it is likely the talking heads are added to the raw footage and stuff like overlays etc are added as separate parts of the video construction so now you have 3 sets of time stamps and lengths to put them in. It's a slog.

Shiiva Wilding

From the very first uncut episode, the mission statement was very clear from NRB: no talking heads on the patreon video and no edits on screen like graphics, scores etc... now we rallied to have the graphics put back in because some videos they made were impossible to follow without them. Talking heads on the other hand were made very clear that they wouldn't feature in the patreon videos, and we understood that that was the selling point, that was what we were paying for.

Shiiva Wilding

A lot of us leave the episodes running in the background while we work, and now we'll have to endure dozens of unfunny talking heads or skip them. It's worked fine all this time, no need to change and no real need for it, that's why we feel the way we do. And it's fine to say I like something the way it is, please don't change it.

Paul Harries

The issue I have with the talking heads is that they don't feel as naturally funny, and often come across as trying too hard.

Sam Walker

I watch the uncut videos because I enjoy the flow of the game and conversation progressing naturally, not because I badly want to see the boring bits of setup. It is specifically the lack of talking heads moreso than the extra content that has me watching the uncut versions. If you're committed enough that you feel the need to see every single bit of content, you can watch two videos or go to Patreon if there's a specific cut moment you want to see continued. The option to see everything still exists either way. But if the talking heads are put into the uncut version it makes the kind of video I enjoy watching, the raw progression of events, no longer exist.

Jacqueline Sookermany

Watching the same video twice isn’t really a realistic “choice”. “Enduring” 5 second clips of a video or skipping past them is clearly the path of least resistance. Putting them at the end of the video isn’t really a middle ground; who is going to watch decontextualized bits of video and enjoy it? And as for your “opinion” not all opinions, particularly rude ones, need to be voiced. A horror movie isn’t a person, so that’s not really a comparable defence. Perhaps what you meant is they you are also rude to individual people at their place of work who make horror movies? 🙄

Travis S.

I'm not a fan of talking heads, but that's why I have a right arrow key. No reason to take it out for people like me.

Hannah Winter

"A sad attempt at a bullying boycott". Opinions, particularly rude ones, shouldn't necessarily be shared. You've done nothing but continue to antagonise people. People are upset and people like you twisting the knife isn't helping

Johan Van Gijsegem

i like the extra inside view in the minds of the players, doesn;t hurt the 'uncut' feeling imho. Nice balance would be to put them at the end, but have bo problem with throughout

Lee Dellbridge

This. Having them at the end makes the least sense. Anyway the people have spoken.

Kristen Osborne

I don't want the talking heads but I still would watch the uncut with them in and the uncut version would still represent a lot of extra value and make my Patreon pledge worthwhile - there's often 30 mins to an hour of extra content there.

Luke

Given how vocal some members were about this, I’m pretty surprised how clear cut this was — only actually 10% really don’t want them in at all. Personally, I’m pretty glad they are in. I much prefer to watch the games without cut content, and there has been some absolute gold during that setup phases sometimes (Lifeboats immediately springs to mind), but I found myself missing the talking heads content so much that it was becoming increasingly rare for me to ever watch the uncut versions — especially on rewatch — these days. I get why some people feel as strongly about it as they do, but NRB has always — to me at least — felt like one of those channels where it’s more about the bits, and the personalities than it is about the gameplay itself. Not knocking you guys at all — I’m a patron of NRB and not them — but if you watch for the gameplay, others do it better. There is no shortage of rules flubs, sub-optimal play, and times where the gameplay takes a back seat to the bits that mean this isn’t really the channel for the best pure board game content. It always felt to me more in the mould of something like a spiritual successor to Wil Wheaton’s TableTop, and the talking heads content was always such a huge part of those, I think you lose out on some of the charm and laughs if you don’t have them. All in all, glad it’s gone the way it has, and wasn’t nearly as controversial or divisive as I feared it was going to be

Joseph Cloud

NRB is more of a comedy troupe playing board games than anything else. Other than once or twice, flubs haven’t really affected the videos, and they are bound to have issues playing 2-3 different games in a recording day, often for the first time for a lot of participants. It’s why it was so weird to me that people complain about breaking the flow of play.

Luke

For sure! like I say, never been a problem for me. I would always rather a player who chooses the bit, over min-maxing, and always think the content should come first, even if it means breaking the game a little... there is a reason 9 of their 12 most popular videos are House Rules, one is muffin time, where the rules designed to punish the rules lawyer types, and one is Trial by Trolley, where the "rules" are really just a framework for bits. I have no problem with people who don't like the talking heads, for whatever reason. If you prefer true improv over scripted, that's fine... if you feel they are not always ideally placed, and sometimes spoil things that happen in the game, that's fine too... and I'm not saying anyone is "wrong" for feeling it breaks up the flow of play, I guess... I just don't really get it in that case, cause serious board game lets plays, that's never really been the way they have positioned the channel.

Jake and Monica Evans

On balance, it’s way less effort for the handful of anti-heads to fast forward than it is for the seemingly many pro-heads to watch an entirely different hour long video just to get all the content.

Jake and Monica Evans

Ah, I love democracy! Absolutely thrilled to see talking heads have won with a landslide. By all means, they’re not ALL gold, but finally Patreon videos will be a complete experience and no one will have to watch two 1 hour+ videos to get all the content. God knows I sometimes don’t have enough free time even to watch ONE ep from BGC in a single sitting. As I’ve seen others say, the handful of antis fast forwarding is clearly the path of least resistance. If that’s a dealbreaker for you, I’m admittedly a little baffled, but it’s your Patreon pledge, it’s up to you.

Tmatts

I'm fairly new to No Rolls Barred myself, but I've been binging a lot of their content and it's been pretty consistent. So I don't really get the complaints. What I mean is that the people complaining have known what their content is like for awhile now, why ask for them to change it? If they don't like it as it is, they needn't be here in the first place imo